Sci-Fiction Channel To Do Myst Miniseries 198
A user writes "The Sci-Fi channel and Cyan have just announced that they are collaborating on a miniseries based on the MYST series of computer games and novels. If they can combine the story of the books with the depth of their Dune series, this could be a great watch."
Game/Film conversions (Score:2, Informative)
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Except the Myst world actually had an excellent plot.
In fact, I remember reading a Wired article [wired.com] a few years ago where one of the brothers (Robin Miller) who created Myst expressed an interest in moving away from video games specifically because narrative was so difficult to achieve in a game.
So the decision to make a mini-series probably stems from this.
Re:Game/Film conversions (Score:1)
This concept should be attempted more often.
Re:Game/Film conversions (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:Game/Film conversions (Score:3, Funny)
How else would people have come up with the idea of munching pills in the dark while listening to techno music?
Re:Game/Film conversions (Score:1)
(at least for my keyboard smashing friends) The ability to play as a Predator, Colonial Marine, or Alien gives you three games in one, while the inability to save in the middle of a mission adds an uncommon and challenging flavor to the gameplay. (Though their is a patch that enables saving now; I won't use it.) I'd highly recommend AVP to any FPS enthusiast.
AHA! I have another brilliant idea! (Score:1)
Re:Game/Film conversions (Score:1)
is it just me or do some others feel that game/movie conversions (whichever way) are most of the time pretty lame.
Try this.First you had SimCity 2000 with the following disasters:-
1) Alien attack.
2) Volcano.
3) Tornado.
Then you had the following movies:-
1) Independence Day.
2) Volcano; 2.1) Dante's Peak.
3) Twister.
Notice a pattern? Personally, I didn't mind Independence Day although Twister did suck. Crichton's first Razzie, wasn't it?
Re:Game/Film conversions (Score:2)
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It seems the movies are always targeted toward little kids.
When you play a computer game, there's more "mental interpolation" going on by the player to fill in the conceptual blanks. When someone makes a movie, they have to adopt *someone's* point of view - and most often, for game conversions, that's a kid's point of view.
Case in point: I think an adult sci-fi movie (or even series) based on MechWarrior or Heavy Gear would be great - could be a futuristic, post-apocalyptic "code of the warrior" kind of film that tries to imagine what such a world would actually be like. Instead, it would almost surely be a "i like when robots fight!" kid's movie.
a brilliant post (Score:1)
resident evil was pretty good..
Star Control 2 (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously.. who else would love to see shofixti(sp?) running around on our TV screens getting whipped to death by Ur-Quan.
ahhhhh memories..... and the guy wrote babylon 5 should write the series... that would be perfect!
Re:Star Control 2 (Score:1)
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Re:Star Control 2 (Score:2, Interesting)
The ORZ.
want to *dancing* in *slippery space*?
Re:Star Control 2 (Score:2)
Endurium dealers, Spemin politics... I want to know how did the Ulteck ally with the Gazertoids, did the Elowans know about what happened to them, and how did the Ancient Ones manage to make ruins if they're just sitting rocks in the first place?
Re:Star Control 2 (Score:2)
Myst as miniseries? (Score:4, Interesting)
Sincerely,
Remco
Re:Myst books (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:Myst books (Score:2)
However, the first 2 books had lots of fascinating details, and I think there is serious potential for great storytelling in the Myst universe. I'm looking forward to this.
Puzzles in miniseries (Score:1)
Re:Myst as miniseries? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Myst as miniseries? (Score:2)
Puzzles are where its at. This COMES FROM puzzles. This SHOULD be good.
I'm still waiting... (Score:3, Funny)
I'm still waiting for the miniseries inspired by my 2 all-time favorites, tetris and lemmings...
Re:I'm still waiting... (Score:2, Funny)
Well, the problem with this is if the director accidently forgot to save that digger lemming towards the end, and his whole cast would end up stuck walking back and forth infinitely in a dirt pit. Thus, the miniseries would NEVER END!
P.S. Speaking of lemmings, geekiness, and TV, does anyone rememember a 1985 Superbowl TV ad by Apple showing a bunch of IBM/clone execs walking off a cliff blindfolded? No? Death to you all under the age of 17!
Re:I'm still waiting... (Score:2)
Re:I'm still waiting... (Score:1)
The 1984 SuperBowl commercial by Apple featured "Big Brother" on a giant screen lecturing the grey, anonymous IBM "clones". An athlete wearing white and red runs in, chased by "police" figures and throws a huge hammer through the screen.
The "IBM Lemmings" commercial was a different one.
See these links for details:
Big Brother [uriah.com]
Lots of Apple Ads [redlightrunner.com]
Re:I'm still waiting... (Score:1)
Just to clarify:
The 1984 commercial was "Big Brother". 1985 was "Lemmings".
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Movies out of games (Score:1)
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Why myst? (Score:1)
How about instead do a Monkey Island [mixnmojo.com] miniseries?
Ghost ships, talking skulls, and monkeys! Plus it had PLENTY of witty dialogue. What more could you want on scifi?
...but then who would they cast as threepwood and who would play elaine?
Who cares... (Score:1)
I'd rather play Zork again.
Re:Who cares... (Score:5, Interesting)
that isn't saying a whole lot. Zork was probly one of the best games ever made. The only games that were more fun to play were also in the IF catigory. However if this is about the Myst books it could be good, as those were pretty good (unlike the rotten DooM books . The video games were pretty bad, infact I think they started the standard that games don't have to be good to sell a crap load of copies.
Now I would love to see a movie/series made out of the Zork series (Beyond would be great to see a movie of) or maybe Lurking Horror. Honestly i don't see why they don't pick games like that.
Ha! (Score:1, Informative)
Correct me if I'm wrong but we are talking that crap Dune series where they got a good bit of the story wrong the casting was ludicrous and they managed to make a really great book mind numbingly boring. Oh I can't wait
Wow, sounds like fun! (Score:3, Funny)
Guy #1: What the f**k am I supposed to do with *that* thing?
Guy #2: No f**king clue.
Guy #1: Screw this, I'm leaving to play Quake3.
Guy #2: Me, too.
Can't compare to Dune (Score:2, Interesting)
SciFi's Dune Sucked! (Was:Can't compare to Dune) (Score:2, Insightful)
Technically, it follows the first book more closely than Lynch's, but that's not necessarily a good thing. Lynch took liberties with the film because he had to in order to make a good film. He knew what he was doing. The jokers who made SciFi's version are the media's equivilent of paper MCSE's. They got hired because they went to film school or whatever, but couldn't film their way out of a wet paper bag.
Lynch's version RaWkEd, even if it is a different story, it just stands by itself as a fantastic film.
that's my $0.02 anyway
Re:SciFi's Dune Sucked! (Was:Can't compare to Dune (Score:1)
Lynch's version RaWkEd,...
That's an interesting view, considering even Lynch hated the way it turned out. To each their own, I suppose.
Re:SciFi's Dune Sucked! (Was:Can't compare to Dune (Score:1)
That's what i fear most about Myst. Everything that was good about the game will be glossed over.
Re:Can't compare to Dune (Score:1)
No matter what you think of Lynch's version, it had more character development in 2 hours and 17 minutes than Sci-Fi could pull together in 4 hour and 25 minutes. I agree, it was the biggest movie disappointment for me--ever.
great idea! (Score:5, Funny)
Their Dune series?!? (Score:1)
dune series sucked (Score:2, Insightful)
Just because it was six hours long doesn't mean it was deep. They threw in a generous amount of plot to satisfy the soap opera audience, and they cheesed pretty much everything else.
The casting of Paul Atreides was particuarly galling. It was like, "OK, we need to cast a military hero of mythic stature. Let's cast around Hollywood for the most gay and ineffectual actor we can find."
Sci-Fi channel is crap that my granny of a mom watches. Cleopatra was the only thing they had going in recent memory.
Re:dune series sucked (Score:1)
No shit. Talk about 'Dude, where's my Weirding module'. LOL
Oh I wish... (Score:2)
But seriously, first I assume you must be talking about Hollywood Ireland... I think it was generally not an American production, and he is distinctly Irish.
Also, I thought he did a really good job: he has to come off believably as a teenage boy at the beginning and age a lot during the story. I think he pulled that off unusually well.
"Sci Fi Presents..." (Score:2, Funny)
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But... (Score:2)
Damn (Score:2)
Myst should translate well (Score:4, Insightful)
I notice lots of people are saying "games don't turn into movies, this will suck," and I would have to disagree. Myst isn't a game in the traditional sense. It bears as much resemblence to Tomb Raider or Resident Evil as a water pistol to Kalashnikov. Myst is a story, an interactive story, and thus ought to move better to the big/small screen. There were Myst novels, after all.
As I see, the difficulty will be in creating true character interaction when the game had practically none. Unless, of course, you just want to have interplay between Artus and the main character, but then it would feel like some sorry fantasy Charlie's Angels rehash (so what did the voice in the book say this week?)
~Chazzf
Re:Myst should translate well (Score:1)
I had a Gravis Ultrasound at the time, since it was a wavetable synth I could hear the sample looping. I just matched looping speeds rather than tones (to which I'm deaf).
Myst had a good backstory (Score:1)
The conflict between Atrus and his father, his sons turning into power-mad tyrants, and his wife's crusade to free her people--all of that is good seeds for stories. It also has a detailed culture, the D'Ni, and would give the protagonist more of a chance to carry on a dialogue with Atrus, and develop a personality of his/her own. Atrus could also become more active, other D'Ni could appear, and so on...
However, a TV-Myst could also become a "mileu of the week" show, and that could get bland quickly.
I guess we'll have to wait for more details.
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Re:Myst should translate well (Score:1)
There were Doom novels too. 'Nuff said.
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Dune (Score:1)
great... (Score:3, Funny)
dune sucked (Score:1)
And to really make it like the game.. (Score:1)
I thought that was over? (Score:2)
I read that three times and I don't get it. I thought April Fools' Day was over, yes?
Was it just me... (Score:2)
or did most if not all of the pronunciations of words in the Sci-Fi channel's version change? It was as if they decided to move the syllabic emphasis around for fun. Perhaps it was because the producer/director was a non-native English speaker and we were used to the original version. Just a thought...
Chani (chAHnee) -> chAInee
feydakin (faidAHkeen) -> fuh DYKE en
The Sims (Score:1)
SciFi has a bad trackrecord with this (Score:1)
This is some kind of joke, right? SciFi's handling of Dune was attrocious. I wouldn't let them near another sacred cow with a 30 meter miter.
They should just stick to playing Star Trek spinoffs. -oakbox
I could not resist... (Score:1)
I really hope you are joking, their dune serie totally destroyed my imagination...
Imagine when it comes out on DVD (Score:2, Funny)
The Longest Jouney (Score:1)
Sci-Fi's Dune (Score:2)
If they can combine the story of the books with the depth of their Dune series . . .
You must mean the shallowness of their Dune series, which was the only film version of a book that could possibly make me appreciate David Lynch's Dune. Sci Fi's take on Dune was a disaster; after 40 minutes I was hoping someone at the network would regain his sanity and interrupt it with a Farscape rerun. Better to spend the 4 hours rereading (as much as you could in 4 hours) the book.
I Hope To See Lots About D'ni History... (Score:2)
I remember from the interview on the original Myst CD with our friends at Cyan. One of the artists (a really geeky, engineering type) mentioned "we had to fully realize this 3D world". Luckily, Cyan went far beyind just visuals in developing this world. I'd love to see it on the screen with that level of detail and devotion.
(Incidently, the best order is read "Book of Atrus", play Myst, read "Book of Ti'ana", play Riven, read "Book of D'ni". You'll really have a strong feel for the characters and their causes in this case. It's particularly chilling to read Atrus' journal entry about losing his Myst book into the star fissure and then hear him recite it at the beginning of the game. It suddenly makes so much sense after that.
Um. The depth of dune? (Score:2)
There is no way you are going to get something that good based on a computer game.
Re:Um. The depth of dune? (Score:2)
Umm.... while I woudn't put the Myst novels on the same literary level as Dune the books weren't that bad and described an interesting alternate reality with a lot of potential.The backstory is pretty complex. As for costume and set design Myst is well ahead of the game since one of it's primary creators is a visual artist and it was originally concieved in a visual medium; which like the original Dune movie will be a rich resource to draw material and ideas from.
In some ways this project may have MORE potential to be a good miniseries than Dune. Dune, even more than most books, was too complex to be reduced to a movie, or even a miniseries. The result when you DO turn such a novel into a movie is that even if it is a decent movie on it's own merits it will always suffer in comparison to the book which will always have more depth. On the other hand most video games have the opposite problem - no depth or plot at all. On the gripping hand Myst has the depth, plot, and complex backstory that video games lack. And the story isn't tied to one particular canonical narrative like you have with a novel. They will be able to adapt the story to the medium of film rather than be forced into the kind of compromises you usually see going from a novel to a film.
No Way this works (Score:2, Insightful)
Myst suffers the usual game-to-movie lack of plot and dies an ugly hard-to-watch death. Sort of like that nasty jack-n-the-beanstalk miniseries from last year. The good money's on this prospect.
Myst hires good writers. They convert a few dozen hours of gameplay and several novels into something that vaguely resembles watching a movie on fast-forward, trying to cram in a jillion details. Even if this runs a dozen hours in miniseries mode, there's so much material that something has to give.
I conceed, there were stories that accompanied Myst. Granted. But anyone that thinks for one moment that they were *exceptional* must like the suspense in reading a good cheerios box. Ugh! What's more, the mere existence of all this background is a serious strait-jacket to anyone developing a movie script. They must tell a compelling story while not clashing with all that stuff!!!
Heck, it can be done. But expectations are high, and there are jillions more ways to fail than to succeed. I haven't touched on lots of other risks: 'artistic' conflicts with Myst's original creators on what *must* happen, attempts to avoid revealing info that spoils the game, attempts to cling too tenaciously to the gameline, attempts to stray too far from the gameline, production weaknesses, poor acting, or any of the six million other ways a movie can suck without this added baggage.
How bad is it? Remember the rants about LoTR, and remember that it at least had a great novel as a basis. These guys start without a proven storyline but *with* all sorts of baggage.
Re:No Way this works (Score:1, Interesting)
What's more, the mere existence of all this background is a serious strait-jacket to anyone developing a movie script. They must tell a compelling story while not clashing with all that stuff!!!
How is any of the novels a "strait-jacket" for future stories? It isn't like the last novel assumes that's it. It leaves everything open and up in the air. I'm not understanding your point. Do you have some examples?
attempts to avoid revealing info that spoils the game
The novels do not do this, so I wouldn't assume that the movie would do so either. Even so, hasn't everyone played Myst/Riven?
Basically I don't understand a lot of your points, they just don't seem valid to me. If things are planned out, this could be an awesome mini-series/tv-movie.
I'm waiting for 'All your base' (Score:1)
I mean, at least this way you start from scratch. There's *NOTHING* distracting a scriptwriter here, and no expectation of greatness. Besides, I'm dying to know the real story-behind-the-story here.
Wrong Choice (Score:1)
Just think about a miniseries for that! You could have daily episodes where it'd be similar to life except that the characters cheat and double-cross each other continually.
They could take my medical track character and call the whole series "General Hospital" or something.
I sure hope... (Score:1)
Just to double the annoyance... (Score:1)
The depth of their Dune series... (Score:1)
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Wait . . (Score:2, Funny)
You're Joiking, Right? (Score:2)
Son, are you on drugs?
Almost every day I'm reminded why I use an antenna (Score:1)
Big Finish (Score:1)
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Don't forget the Forever War miniseries! (Score:1)
Time frame (Score:2, Informative)
Amber and Forever War, too... (Score:4, Informative)
Battlestar Galactica & Many More (TV): The Sci-Fi Channel has issued a press release about all sorts of new projects it'll be doing shortly and there's quite a few in there that caught people by suprise. Along with the 20-hour epic miniseries "Taken", there'll numerous 4-hour mini-series in the works based on various things ranging the famous atmospheric computer game "Myst" to award winning sci-fi novels like "The Forever War" and "The Chronicles of Amber". One that caught many off guard though is a 4-hour mini-series based on the 70's TV series classic "Battlestar Galactica". Its been well known that "X-Men" producer Tom DeSanto has been developing Galactica for over a year now with Bryan Singer first attached (he pulled out of directing duties later on). The announcement today mentioned neither of them, rather people like Star Trek writer Ronald D. Moore penning, David Eick ("American Gothic", "Spy Game") exec producing and Breck Eisner directing. The worrying thing is that rumours are indicating this will forget pretty much all the old show's characters and rather be a teen 90210 style adventure in space, however the decision won't be finalised for a few weeks. In other TV news it seems David Caruso and Rory Cochrane will star in the planned "CSI" spin-off for next year, Marcia Gay Harden has joined CBS' "In the Echo" and Kyle McLahlan & Andie MacDowell will star in the veterinarian-subject show "Jo". Thanks to Futon Critic & CinEmpire
hoo boy (Score:2)
Good news for us color-blind folk (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:That's great! (Score:1, Redundant)
Re:That's great! (Score:1)
The most memorable moment from it was the cardboard backgrounds
Or maybe they where *trying* to get that look... but that wouldn't explain netter digital's nice renderings
Re:Lovely (Score:1, Insightful)
Hey, don't dis Lexx!
Some of us like such weird scifi that doesn't even pretend to take itself seriously, is dripping sex (both hetero-, homo- and just plain out weird sex) and just makes the conservatives and puritans in general mad.
Re:Lovely (Score:1)
Except Farscape hasn't been cancelled. Season 4 begins in June.
Farscape: New Episodes Friday (US) (Score:1)
Farscape returns to SCI FI April 5 with the final four episodes of Season Three. These include (in airing order) 319: "I Yehsch, You Yehsch," 320: "Into the Lion's Den, Pt. 1," 321: "Into the Lion's Den, Pt. 2," and 322: "Dog with Two Bones."
Season Four begins June 7th.