Attack of the Clones to Cost Economy $300m 379
Audent writes: "Attack of the Clones may make you sick but according to this story, it will cost the US economy $300 million in lost productivity what with all the nerds calling in with a bad case of midiclorianitis. ...
Nerds and geeks and propellorheads are singled out as being most at risk. Take your medication now! dammit." A nameless reader also points to a review (looks like two, but only one is up at the time of this writing) up at http://www.pstwo.net/.
bad assessment (Score:5, Funny)
Re:bad assessment (Score:2, Funny)
Re:bad assessment (Score:5, Funny)
I haven't felt this awful since we saw that Ronald Reagan film... (Airplane)
Forethought and Planning (Score:2)
It will likely be a slow day at work anyhow, what with all the IT types out of the building.
Or maybe the lone clueless guy left holding the fort in tech support will have to handle all the calls usually reserved for the whole department.
On the other hand, it is not like you couldn't arrange some vacation time or a personal day or something. I would think it would be worth it.
Re:bad assessment (Score:5, Funny)
using that logic... (Score:3, Funny)
Enough to fund a small nation would be my guess.
Re:using that logic... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:using that logic... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:using that logic... (Score:2)
Re:using that logic... (Score:2)
http://www.lowcomdom.com [lowcomdom.com]
Read The Crapolla, you'll like it.
Re:using that logic... (Score:2, Funny)
=)
Re:using that logic... (Score:2, Insightful)
They played it openly with no fear of retribution. When asked why, they invariably replied, "Mouse practice."
Justin
Re:using that logic... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:using that logic... (Score:2, Informative)
I thought the CLones brought down... (Score:2, Funny)
Lost productivity (Score:3, Funny)
;)
Re:Lost productivity (Score:4, Interesting)
Hmm, figure average wage of U.S. worker to be 35,000$/year (roughly) that is, 20$/hour. OK then, so 7,500,000 minutes = 125,000 hours x 20$/hour = 2.5 million dollars/per day.
Extrapolating for a work year (roughly 270 work days in a year) = 675 million dollars in a year due to slashdot and lost productivity.
Hmmm. I'm probably wrong, for one thing not everybody spends 15 minutes a day on slashdot, not everyone looks every day, not everybody does it works, not everybody makes 20$/hour so that number is prolly too high.
But even if you figure it is DOUBLE or TRIPLE what the real number is.. wow.. even if it is QUADRUPLE that means that the real number would be 168,750,000 million. Not quite Star Wars but close..
Re:Lost productivity (Score:2)
And not everyone who reads
Michael
Re:Lost productivity (Score:2)
And not everyone who reads
That's a bloody good thing.
Re:Lost productivity (Score:2)
If I didn't take 15 minutes out of each work day to chill out and read something interesting technology stories, I probably would have flipped out and strangled my bosses a long time ago!
(Come to think of it, that might have IMPROVED the companies productivity! Perhaps there is something to this idea after all.)
Re:Lost productivity (Score:2)
So, assuming your average "boss" costs US$80K/year, and you did not strangle him/her (not saving us that money)
Re:Lost productivity (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Lost productivity (Score:2)
SO!
poor projection (Score:2)
Great assumption!
Re:poor projection (Score:2)
Re:poor projection (Score:4, Funny)
Well, it was posted by Timothy, what do you expect?
Re:poor projection (Score:2)
Yeah, It's P-R-O-P-E-L-L-E-R H-E-A-D-S.
Two words, one "O".
Jeeze.
Re:poor projection (Score:2)
what about.. (Score:4, Funny)
"She be comanch-a--wwooobbeeedo---!"
$300 million is nothing (Score:3, Insightful)
Flawed analysis (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Flawed analysis (Score:2)
For vacation that is almost definitely true. For sick days it is not. Not all that many people I know use their maximum allotment of sick days each year. (Many don't use all their vacation, but everyone I know uses all the vacation that won't roll over or be converted to cash...i.e. if it is "use it or lose it" it gets used even if it is just to sit around at home!).
Re:Flawed analysis (Score:2)
Why should I rely solely on my vacation for this? At the end of the year I can get paid for unused vacation, unused sick days disappear.
Sick days allocation (Score:3, Funny)
You should be able to book them in advance too:
"Erm, Jack's taking that week off with 'flu, could you take the week after that ? Actually, if you wait until two weeks on Friday, I can let you have ten days off with prostate trouble. OK? I'll pencil you in..."
graspee
Re:Sick days allocation (Score:2)
A question for techies (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A question for techies (Score:2)
Re:A question for techies (Score:2, Funny)
See, my boss will wait until I've broken a rule before he presses charges.
Re:A question for techies (Score:2)
Most managers I've had are ok with this and if they aren't you just go do your thing when they take off early to play golf.
My experience (Score:5, Funny)
Hmm... Guess I will get a day off... (Score:2)
No, it won't... (Score:4, Insightful)
Perspective (Score:2)
Re:Perspective (Score:2)
graspee
Why is it.... (Score:5, Funny)
What about take-your-daughter/son-to-work day? I wonder how much that costs us?
How about what it costs us ever time Clinton stopped to get a h$mmer.... If that's not a massive waste of cash, what is?
Isn't this just more geek bashing?
Re:Why is it.... (Score:3, Insightful)
1. You can't compare those movies to STAR WARS. Nobody skips work to go see a Hugh Grant or Julia Roberts movie.
2. Housewives going out to see a movie helps the economy, it doesn't hurt it.
BTW, this "let's skip work to see Star Wars" is not just a geek thing. The Star Wars movies just brings out the geek in everyone, include your typical non-geeks.
Re:Why is it.... (Score:2, Interesting)
OK then...
I know most of the Americans here don't know the first thing about the World Cup, but over here in the UK it's estimated that a third of the entire workforce is going to take the day off to watch the England v Argentina game.
Because of the time zones, the game kicks off at 12:30pm our time. Personally speaking, there is no way I'm going to miss this game! There's a seriously huge rivalry between our countries, mostly down to those pesky Argies employing some decidedly unfair tactics in previous matches.
There's a BBC News story [bbc.co.uk] about it too.
Re:Why is it.... (Score:4, Funny)
> employing some decidedly unfair tactics in previous matches.
Wasn't there also a minor matter involving some islands?
Chris Mattern
Re:Why is it.... (Score:2)
I used to work in the datacenters for the New York and American Stock Exchanges and one take-your-daughter to work day they decided to take the kids on a tour of the data center. The kids were slightly uncontrollable and one ran over and hit the emergency power off button for the data center. It halted trading on the AMEX for 3 minutes. I wonder what that cost the economy.
Bovine Excrement! (Score:5, Interesting)
Osama Bin Laden could only wish. There are lies, damn lies, and marketing generated statistics. If there was such a thing as an "employment expert", I think they would have, by now, figured out the whole unemployment problem and solved it. Three hundred million bucks in lost productivity? The 9/11 atrocity is estimated at 1.2 billion dollars in economic damage to US worker productivity, not counting lost jobs, from what I have read. To say that Star Wars is going to do 1/4 of the economic damage as September 11th might send Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge's [whitehouse.gov] color coded domestic terrorism scale [whitehouse.gov] to RED causing him to ban all showings before 6pm local time.
Write this one off to cheap and easy journalism recycling a press release. If this is true, however, I expect to see George Lucas at Gitmo [navy.mil] in the next month.
Re:Bovine Excrement! (Score:3, Interesting)
According to this google result [hrw.com], airline losses could top $10 billion, actual physical tamage is estimated at $25 billion, Bush is still talking about a $75 billion economic stimulus plan (tho support for this is fading fast), the arilines got a $15 billion bailout package, and that doesn't even begin to cover the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt that was cast upon this nation the instant the planes hit the towers, which I've read at I think $50 billion for maybe NYC alone. Results aren't clear of this, and it's all speculation and estimating regardless. But the Consumer Confidence Index, a widely respected barometer of how willing consumers are to actually spend money, plummet to its lowest level in seven years.
Your comparison of bin Laden to Star Wars is offbase, and I'm a bit offended by your gross underestimates.
If you disagree, reply.
Re:Bovine Excrement! (Score:2)
Re:Bovine Excrement! (Score:2)
R U serious???
Believe it or not, such people exist!
I know, I know. I read Douglas Adams too. The whole B Ark thingy.
But those sick days add up.
Not really. Businesses already factor in a certain number of sick days (and vacation days) a year that each employee will take in their business plans. If they skip work to watch Star Wars, they are only taking advantage of an opportunity that the business has already costed. There is no loss in productivity since there is an expectation of absence -- the flu or Star Wars the cost is the same.
Repeat (Score:5, Informative)
What about the other side? (Score:3, Insightful)
Granted, most of the money will end up in George's pockets, but the middle man will still make a few extra bucks.
My boss is taking the company (Score:2)
And how much does the 4th of July cost? (Score:5, Insightful)
People need to relax, have fun, and enjoy life. That both makes them more productive when they do work, and it gives them a reason to earn money.
Re:And how much does the 4th of July cost? (Score:2, Informative)
The US worker does not however put in the most hours if you include developing countries. The US worker is only third overall - only being beaten by South Korea and the Czech Republic.
The average US worker logged 1,978 hours in 2000. The Koreans logged almost 500 more hours, and the Czechs logged 100+ more hours.
References: CNN - Study: US workers put in the most hours (Aug 31, 2001) [cnn.com]
This is BS (Score:4, Insightful)
Everyone knows that vacation days are for vaction, and sick days are for when you just don't want to go in.
Re:This is BS (Score:2)
--Josh
It's one expensive ticket for us consultants (Score:3, Funny)
Maybe I will in fact continue my boycott of RIAA/MPAA.
maybe phantom menace... (Score:2)
As much as I think that Ep2 will be much better, I think that if Ep1 was a lot better the figure would be $600m.
Cost the economy??? I don't think so.
How can they blame it on the techies.... (Score:2, Funny)
Nah, more time is wasted, (Score:2)
shameless
tcd004
Sick for real (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Sick for real (Score:2)
If you work in tech support (Score:2)
Now Science Fiction Tax makes sense.
Re:If you work in tech support (Score:2)
Isn't this irrelevant? (Score:3, Interesting)
I understand that other factors might be involved, such as not having enough employees available to run a piece of equipment, but that's not what they're talking about. Raw wage calculations should have been taken care of already.
Yes?
Unjustified? I think not. (Score:2)
I've fixed the problem where I work... (Score:2)
In my case, all the company is going at the same time (well those who are interrested) ( 20, people, easy to organize), it makes a social event, it reservces me the seat to the back of mine so that way if it's someone that I already know that is going to kick in my chair, I'll have full authority to choke him in his popcorn without fearing that the next 10 other people next to him are his street friends and are going to wait for me outside after the movie
Somebody do the math (Score:2)
I'm thinking that the projected total of geeks playing hooky to go se AotC multiplied by the cost of admission to the theater would amount to greater than $300 million. I'm wondering if someone could provide an estimate on the total of geeks playing hooky and also obtain the average price of the movie ticket and then multiply the two. It will be interesting to compare the two numbers.
Dragon Quest (Score:5, Interesting)
How many nerds does it take to watch Star Wars? (Score:2)
100,000 to wait in line
100,000 to buy action figures
70,000 to buy the special set of dvds with "never before seen footage"
10,000 to complain at
10,000 to cheer when the N'sync jedis get killed
10,000 to complain that my addition is bad when it's really just a typo
idiots' logic (Score:3, Insightful)
They assumed that they must be doing something productive if they are not watching movies. Hell, they might spend more unproductive hours elsewhere.
Same ill-logic can be found everywhere. I saw in yeasterday's news the local custom confisticated piracy software which said to be causing 15 billions net lost of software industry. 15 billions! It's many times more than the total revuene made by all industries here!
It sounds like all people would buy a $5000 software if they couldn't find a $5 in piracy market. I know they should make it a big deal to attract public attention, but sadly some people(idiots) would believe these figures.
Be at both places at once. (Score:5, Funny)
Works for me, even when I am in the office.
the real problem (Score:2, Funny)
If we'd only give up sleep. . . (Score:4, Insightful)
While hallucinating from lack of sleep.
So what am I supposed to be doing to help the economy today, producing, or spending my income on leisure consumer goods? You can't have it both ways boys and girls.
Hey, I've got a neat idea. I'll just * do what I want.* I think there's a term for that:
Democratic Free Market
Man, we don't want anything like *that* getting lose in the American economy!
KFG
Only One Day Off??!!! (Score:3, Insightful)
Not because they're waiting in line for tickets, but because they're unemployed.
I wonder how much that's costing the economy.
Things sure changed fast. (Score:2)
That company is long gone now--sold off--and all the people I know from there (as well as myself) have had big benefit cuts.
Gone are the days of the hope of Java and the joy of seeing a Kim Polese presentation.
hometheaterforum.com has a review online. (Score:3, Informative)
A choice quote:
I won't waste any time in saying that Attack Of The Clones is the most remarkable Star Wars film to date. It not only breathes new life into the series, but it brings us back to the original magic that made Star Wars a cultural phenomenon. It is ultimately the Empire Strikes Back of this new saga, that takes us to the darkest corners of the Star Wars universe, as we come face-to-face with the master plan of Darth Sidious.
Spider-Man for me, rather than AoTC (Score:2)
But I will go see an afternoon matinee of Spider-Man on opening day (later today, Friday May 3). I've been waiting years for that movie. I grew up on Spider-Man (got my first Spidey comic when I was about 6). I just wanna say, the movie better not suck.
As for skipping out of work, I teach at Cornell. Fortunately, today is Slope Day at Cornell, the last day of classes. On Slope Day, all the students go get drunk on the big hill by the main library. It's quite a spectacle. Anyway, no one will notice/care if I take off early, and most of the students will be drunk on the slope, so I'm hoping the theater won't be too crowded (and especially hoping it doesn't fill up with drunken students).
(As a former Cornell grad student, I've participated in plenty of Slope Days myself. For this one, I'll check it out, but won't be drinking.)
Star Wars will make that money back (Score:2, Funny)
Get the Attack of the Clones Script (Score:3, Informative)
I wish they'd quit abusing Jar-jar... (Score:5, Insightful)
No, seriously. As far as I can tell, Jar-jar's only REAL crime was being the only character in the first movie with a personality of any sort (the fact that the personality in question was that of an annoying muppet only made this fact more painful, as it meant HE was the only character a semi-sane human being could relate to...which of course, nobody wanted to do...).
His speech and voice aren't really much sillier than Yoda's (and Yoda didn't even have the gee-whiz CGI effects to to keep him from being such an obvious puppet). His slapstick antics weren't really any more annoying than R2D2/C3P0's (heck, the "how rude!" schtick just REEKS of C3P0) were in the original movies...but in the original movies, the main characters HAD personalities that outshone the 'droids, so they weren't so "glaring". In TPM, it just made Jar-jar stand out way more than he would have if the other characters weren't acting like emotionless drones most of the time...
From the brief blurb in the review, it sounds like Lucas is still keeping Jar-jar in the "annoying comic relief" category (though for only a very brief appearance this time)...but I'd much rather they actually let Jar-jar develop beyond that. Seriously - if they let him hang around the other characters long enough, they can have him lose the more outrageous aspects of his speech, get a grip on his tendency to comically panic everytime something happens, and accomplish something once in a while. Or, perhaps he'll just get fed up with the abuse he gets from the alleged "good guys" and give in to the Dark Side - perhaps Lucas' "Big Plans" involve Jar-jar coming back as a vengeful Sith to kick everyone's butts for tormenting him in the first two movies while letting R2D2 and C3P0 do their thing without comment (evidently, they're back in this movie as well).
(If Jar-jar using Magic Force Powers(tm) seems improbable to you, take a look at this article [space.com]. It may just be that Lucas overdid Jar-jar's "fool" act as much as he overdid the Jedi's "calm and cool" act in the first movie...)
Now if only someone will found the Association for Prevention of Cruelty to Comedy Sidekicks, we'll be in business...
Re:I wish they'd quit abusing Jar-jar... (Score:2)
History doesn't support this PR stunt (Score:2)
Episode I had 20 years of anticpation built up so the idea of people skipping out of work to see it was plausible.
After audiences discovered that Phantom Menace was less than spectacular it's doubtful masses of people will skip out of work to see Attack of the Clones a mere 3 years later, especially because it will be playing at every multiplex all summer.
Still, the PR stunt seems to be working the second time around because it is being picked up by various media outlets, including Slashdot.
Funny, since John Fluevog's Open Source shoes story over at Red Herring says...
'Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, cofounder of the open-source site Slashdot.org, calls it a "PR stunt. I ignore stuff like that."'
http://www.redherring.com/insider/2002/0424/278
Great people (Score:2)
In oterh news... (Score:3, Funny)
Empoyment experts also estimate that sex costs the US economy over 1.4 trillion dollars in lost production.
Dallas-based recruitment firm Gray, Limp, and Lifeless Corp. projects that over 40 million man-hours per day are lost because
of fatigue and injury due to the previous night's sexual activities, and because of lost work caused
by thinking about sex in the forthcoming night. According to CEO Dick Lifeless, "Tens of thousands of sick days result from painful contusions and spained backs alone, caused by these slacker's propensity for wild, excessive sex".
Mr. Lifeless told Reuters that only technology firms were likely to be immune to the economic losses, because of the high proportion of geeks among staff, who were likely to be spending the night alone, eating pizza, reading slashdot, and web-surfing for pornography.
In Related News: (Score:2)
To counter this, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has recommended that all coffee machines include meters as well as toilets and urinals, along with seats to enforcing work ethics via electrode embedded toilet seats.
The rubber pants, cork, spackling and caulk industries have applauded this suggestion, foreseeing an explosion in demand for their products.
This just in... (Score:3, Insightful)
oh please (Score:2)
RRAE #2 - I know, let's make up some bullshit press release and ride on the coattails of the "geek culture" fantasy.
RRAE #1 - I love you, Phil
Han Solo Firstists Unite! (Score:3, Funny)
And to back up my beliefs, I have two different non-SE widescreen versions of all three movies (notice I didn't say four) on glorious laserdisc.
So all those of you who still haven't seen Episode 1, come out of the closet and admit to the world: I am Jar-Jar free!
Re:What about movie revenue? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Hmmm (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Trust Me...It's Saving the Country Money... (Score:2)
You're more likely to end up experiencing the Attack of the Geeks! The high morale will only come after they rise up forming a rebellion and destroy the projectors and blow up the theater!
Re:Starwars website (Score:2)
>light saber crooked?
There are several pictures. Just reload.
And as far as Dooku's light saber, it looks more like it has a slightly curved handle.
-l
Re:OT: theaters with digital projection (Score:3, Informative)
Re:OT: theaters with digital projection (Score:2)
Re:OT: theaters with digital projection (Score:2)
Yeah, who would have thought that the Valley View, OH Cinemark [cinemark.com] would have this capability? Not I, and I've lived in CLeveburg most of my life.
The downside is, if you go the the link, they DO offer advanced ticket sales, but only for confirmed films and showtimes. SWep2 hasn't appeared on their radar yet, apparently, because the website [cinemark.com] has nothing and they will give me no info on the phone. Come on; it's less than two weeks away!!
-Roger