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Farscape & Stargate SG-1 New Seasons Tonight 223

marekk writes "Frelling A! The fourth season of Farscape, arguably the best Sci-Fi currently on television premieres tonight on the SciFi Channel. You can catch the premiere episode, titled "Crichton Kicks" at 9PM CST. Afterwards, you can watch the premiere of Stargate SG-1's sixth season, "Redemption"." I've been watching the SG1 season 1 box set and am impressed. Its a solid show, and I'm looking forward to season it without the benefit of syndication lag, even if there are problems. As for Farscape... well, Duh!
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Farscape & Stargate SG-1 New Seasons Tonight

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  • Farscap start (Score:3, Insightful)

    by gerardrj ( 207690 ) on Friday June 07, 2002 @05:24PM (#3662606) Journal
    Should be interesting.
    Most of the crew is gone, Talon and Kreis are dead, Moya was sucked in to a workhole and John was left floating in space all alone with no fuel.

    What a way to start a new season.
    • >...Moya was sucked in to a workhole...

      Hey! Wait one frelling minute!! A 'workhole?' That's what I get sucked into at 08:00 every day when I walk in the door at my employer! Moya had nothing to do with it (lucky her!) unless Boeing's got a sooper-sekrit hangar for Leviathans somewhere on the campus...

    • "..sucked in to a workhole.."

      snarfed! Assuming that "Work" is a blackhole ="workhole"

      3C
    • "Moya was sucked in to a workhole"

      Damn workholes, that's where I'll be spending my night, tonight.

      --Travis
    • Well, I wouldn't be so sure that Crais and Talon are dead any more than I'd assume Scorpius died in the explosion.

      Aeryn came back and only one of the two John Chrichtons was killed. Heck we may yet see more of P'au Zhaan.

      It will be an interesting season for sure.

      • Well, I wouldn't be so sure that Crais and Talon are dead any more than I'd assume Scorpius died in the explosion.

        The difference, of course, is that they found fragments of Talyn's hull after their escape. That's kind of like finding body parts after an accident. It makes the possibility of resurrection somewhat less likely.

        Besides, I think Talyn was getting to be a burden on the writers. They kept having to come up with reasons why he couldn't just fly in and blast the hell out of everything to save the day.

        That said, I think the writers could stand to take a page from Joss Whedon's playbook. Take a cool supporting character, give her lots of screen-time to connect with the audience, and then kill her off mercilessly. Gotta keep the viewers on their toes....
        • I've quit watching Buffy because it gets boring watching characters die and cry all the time. I really hope Farscape doesn't over do the die/cry thing too.
        • Besides, I think Talyn was getting to be a burden on the writers. They kept having to come up with reasons why he couldn't just fly in and blast the hell out of everything to save the day.

          Well, for one thing Talyn was out of control. I sure wouldn't want to have him fly in and blast any where near me.

          Crais is a great character and I'd like to see him return in the new season. Lose Jool if someone needs to go.
      • Heck we may yet see more of P'au Zhaan.

        That would be great! However Virginia Hey says she wouldn't come back to the show unless they made her more human looking... the make up was making her sick, plus she had to shave her head and eyebrows off...

        • You obviously didn't notice the Delvian with (blond)hair in the promotionals.
          • You obviously didn't notice the Delvian with (blond)hair in the promotionals.

            Yeah, I did, and they had Delvians with hair last season. But I'm on the Virginia Hey mailing list, and this is what she said about it. She just moved to LA and will be in some major movie soon.

    • Well, if it's like most Farscape season-openers, the episode will start about a week after John ran out of fuel. In the course of the dialog we'll hear maybe one sentence about how he escaped. These gaps drive me crazy.
    • Yup... he (John) has to be thinking to himself: "This can't possibly get any worse..."
    • No spoilers here. (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Great! Now I don't have to bother actually watching the third season You managed to sum up almost everything that happens and kill any surprises that might have popped up.

      +1 Informative? -2 Unwarned Spoiler!

      makes me wish I had moderator points to keep this tragedy from happening to anyone else who is unlucky enough to not get the show and has to wach it much later.
  • I have been gnawing at the big to sg1 to get to sci fi as im not paying to watch it on showtime and the syndication in my area has been haphazard. I do how they find a way to make everyone happy with locations and make a 7th season.
  • No Argument Necessary - Farscape Is The Best!
    • Im not sure Id say that. I do like Farscape, but there are a lot of times that it is weird just for the sake of being weird. The episode that made me roll my eyes the most was the one where they ended up on a planet occupied by mostly lawyers.

      Ugh.

      *Really misses Doctor Who*
  • that's backwards (Score:4, Informative)

    by rbabb ( 134729 ) <rbabb@nOSpaM.rbabb.net> on Friday June 07, 2002 @05:26PM (#3662618) Homepage
    I think SG-1 air's first at 9PM, and then Farscape airs at 10MP.. Well at least here in ATL.
    • SG-1 new episode first airs at 9pm, then Farscape comes one, then the SG-1 episode is repeated.

      You can watch or record it before or after Farscape. I guess that's the best way for SCIFI to make sure Farscape's viewer rub off on SG-1.

  • no more fox (Score:5, Funny)

    by r1ddl3 ( 211299 ) on Friday June 07, 2002 @05:29PM (#3662634)
    with the demise of Tick, X-files, Futurama and now Stargate moving, fox has finally completed the transition to nothing but crap and soft core porn. Congrats Fox
    • funny, i watch stargate on showtime, not fox. besides, fox still has the simpsons and NFL games. the rest is just filler now.
    • And Simpsons.
    • Before the move to SciFi, original episodes of SG1 aired on Showtime. FOX stations aired syndicated reruns of SG1 a season behind the Showtime schedule. They still might, I'm not sure if SciFi obtained the show's syndication rights or not.
    • Re:no more fox (Score:2, Interesting)

      by Thenomain ( 537937 )
      You'd think so, but, amazement of all amazements, Fox ordered up a new sci-fi series [freshangles.com] from Joss Whedon (Buffy/Angel/Ripper [globalnet.co.uk]) called "Firefly [fox.com]". Sure, it looks like it might be Buffy In Space, but as Joss put it (and I wish like hell I could find the quote, so this is a paraphrase), it will be humans doing evil things to humans; no aliens need apply.

      YMMV, but I'm looking forward to at least giving it a try, hoping that he has enough clout to keep the fingers of money-hungry network execs from making it the kind of pablum you'd expect from Fox. (Mind you, I won't scream if the show has a little soft-core porn.)

      And if it flies, Joss would have his shows on four major TV networks. (Fox, BBC, WB, UPN.) Go rah.
  • The game (Score:2, Interesting)

    by hoowee ( 581244 )
    Looks like the Farscape game [scifi.com] is shaping up nicely as well...
  • I'd love to get all of the episodes on CD or DVD somehow - unfortunately only the first season seems to be available, and for a hefty price. I'd rather wait until they're all available before starting a collection since there's no guarantee they'd all be released.
    • Actually, I managed to pick up the whole first season of SG1 for $50. Also, I know Season 2 has been released in Region 2. Supposedly MGM plans to release Season 2 in North America this fall. I'm not sure why they waited so long.

      I know the first season of Farscape is out, but apparently the going rate is $15 - $20 per disc (with each disc holding only 2 episodes.) Considering that the first season was 22 episodes, I'm not particularly inclined to pay $165 - $220. Such a shame. :(
    • I'm not sure about which region, but I've seen from a newsgroup that season 4 has been released (was long before season 5 had completely aired). The DVD does contain some nice stuff, including a director's commentary for the episode on a second audio track. Lots of nice insight to the creative process there. Waiting for all seasons to be released is an option, but that may be a while, and you'll be without the insight of stuff like this extra material while you wait.
      • Season 4 is out in region 2. If you have a dvd player that is 'region free' you are all set. I did this with Angel season 1 as it was only region 2. You pay more with shipping and everything though...
    • It has been my understanding that the USboxes sets have been so long in coming due to syndication issues (greed?). I picked up season 1 as soon as i could. However i am worried about the other SG seasons being broken up peicemeal and sold at high prices like the farscape ones.
    • alt.binaries.stargate-sg1 I don't have the link, but the DVDs have been released up through about a third of the way through season five. Or maybe I'm hallucinating this cylinder of CDrs filled with SG-1 DVD rips from the newsgroup.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 07, 2002 @05:31PM (#3662645)
    There's lots of info on Farscape at the BBC Online Farscape Cult [bbc.co.uk] page.
  • Thank you Tivo (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ZeroLogic ( 11697 )
    I didn't even know a new season was starting tonight, nor do i have time to go home to record it. That's when I remembered that my Tivo should be smart enough (fingers crossed) to record it on it's own.

    • Unless you had a Wishlist for Stargate or created a Season Pass for it on the Sci-Fi channel, it won't be recorded. SPs don't migrate from one channel to the next.
      • "SPs don't migrate from one channel to the next."

        I've actually found (and correct me if I'm wrong) that if a show is offered on multiple channels at the time the season pass is created, it's created only for the specific channel you specify, but, if it only appears on one channel at the time you make the season pass, the season pass is 'global' (because it doesn't need to be exclusionary at the time), and will capture shows on other channels whould they come up in the future.

        Well, we'll see. I'm in the same boat, and won't be home until too late.
        • if it only appears on one channel at the time you make the season pass, the season pass is 'global'

          I don't think that's correct. SPs are definitely tied to a single channel, no matter how or when they were made.

  • by bmooney28 ( 537716 ) on Friday June 07, 2002 @05:37PM (#3662674) Homepage
    If you are considering Farscape on DVD, be sure to get the European versions if at all possible.. They come in 6 packs for only 50% more than US 2-packs... (aprox $30 for 6 pack vs $20 for 2 pack)... In the long run, it would actually be worthwhile to buy a region free DVD player if you plan to collect the whole set and live in the US... Hint: look for APEX 600A on ebay... and do a google search for "loophole menu"....

    Note: The APEX 600A will also disable CSS copy protection allowing you to copy ANY DVD onto VHS!

    In the long run
    • As someone who had been doing this for quite some time, I recommend Amazon.co.uk, or Blackstar.co.uk. One thing to keep in mind, is you may also need to convert a PAL to NTSC signal for your TV.
      • I've also had good luck getting UK DVD's for a good price (+shipping to USA) from Dividica [musica.co.uk].

        --The Rizz

        "The trouble with finding your place in the eye of the storm is, you're basically surrounded." --D.C. Simpson

    • I have a 600A. The regionlessness and macrovision decoding are great. The problem is, it has major problems with seamless branching. I doubt the Farscape DVD's use that feature, but many movies do, and at the rates these sub-$200 dvd players (I got mine for about $125 about 2 years ago) are going for on ebay, I seriously doubt it's worth it, as you can get a brand new region/macro free for about the same price with no problems with seamless branching (or dual layer issues, like the pause and skip the Apex-600A's do, or the overheating issues, audio/video sync issues, etc.).
    • but do the European versions have the commentary tracks? I looked at a couple uk DVD vendors and they don't mention it. If not it might be more worthwhile to take some time and hunt down the North American one's used.
    • Actually, that would be the Macrovision protection that the APEX 600A is stipping off the output signal and allowing you to record it to a VCR. CSS refers to the encryption used on DVD's to control what players can play them.

      Most /.readers refer to CSS as a mere annoyance rather than an effective copy protection scheme.
    • But the US versions have some exclusive extras, namely some commentary from the shows actors, and a number of smaller things.

      They're published in the US by A.D. Vision, the same people that bring us tons of the anime that Taco and I know and love (Gasaraki, Steel Angel Kurumi), and are NOT members of the MPAA.

      So buy up!
  • Stargate SG-1 is premiering before Farscape. SG-1 will be shown at 8:00 and 10:00 CST, while Farscape will be shown at 9:00 and 11:00 CST. The original 1994 Stargate movie started at 5:30 PM CST.
  • Not having Showtime, I've been following SG-1 on Fox (with all their time-jumping and out-of-order episodes) and the last ep I saw was the cliffhanger when Chronos's (err, our) mothership, and Apophis's ship just came out of 'hyperspace' from running away from the star that Carter made go nova, propelling them entirely outside the galaxy (note that anyone who doesn't already watch SG-1 probably never will after reading that sentence, really, the show's not so contrived).

    My question is, now that we're jumping from syndicationto first-run, how many seasons, if any, will I be skipping, and how will I be able to catch up, since apparently Fox is giving up the show (Are they?) and the DVDs are only out for season 1 so far. Anyone know?

    Thanks,
    • You'll just be skipping season 5. The second part to the episode you mention is called Enemies, and is quite good.

      One thing you might want to do is watch the season 5 opener, as you'll understand a lot more about what's going on in season 5 (but still not quite. You'd probaly need to watch 3 or 4 season 5 episodes to know exactly what is going on and the progression of the Earth and others vs. Goa'uld plot). Episodes can be found in some newsgroups if you want to download them.

      Check out this link if you want to know spoilers for season 5:
      http://www.gateworld.net/s5/index.shtml [gateworld.net]

      Overall, I'm really looking foward to season 6 on sci-fi.
    • As close as I can tell, there is only one season between the last (new) epsiode broadcast on Fox (which was the season finale for season four) and the epsiode being broadcasted tonight on SciFi (the preimer for season six). Season Five was only on ShowTime, though there are rumors that SciFi is going to run all of the old Stargate SG-1 episodes in the afternoon like they do with Babylon 5 in the future.

      I only saw the first 12 or so episodes of season five on ShowTime before I moved (and lost access to pay channels). The linked slashdot article basically sums up the fifth season. I hope they turn it around now that ShowTime is no longer in control.
    • Fox wasn't carrying the show, if I understand right - it was your local Fox affiliate. Here, in Seattle, it's been UPN.

      According to TiVo, I've been watching most of the 2001 episodes lately, which should mean I'm nearly caught up to Season 6.

      (Regarding DVDs, I made a post about this as well, but to add to the concept, it'd be great if we could at least *rent* the DVDs of the shows, even if they don't let us purchase them yet.. I know I'm still seeing episodes I've never seen before and I'd love to be fully caughtup. The ep you mention, I haven't seen yet. :( )
  • by D'Arque Bishop ( 84624 ) on Friday June 07, 2002 @06:01PM (#3662796) Homepage
    Just to clear up some confusion here...

    Stargate SG-1 was originally a SHOWTIME show. The episodes that run on Fox (aka, syndication) are actually a season behind the Showtime run. When SG-1 ended its fifth season on Showtime, it immediately jumped to Sci-Fi for its sixth season. The Fox run (which is still on season 4) still has another season to go.

    Last I checked, Fox was NOT dropping their run of SG-1. It's Showtime that's no longer running it. So, those of you without cable or satellite can rejoice; you still have at least another season.

    • One last misconception to clear up:

      There is *NO* Fox run. It's syndicated. In some places that means it's on the Fox affiliate. In others, the WB or UPN affiliate. In others, one not affiliated with any network.

      Hell, in some places it's probably on the NBC affiliate.

      I thought you people got this concept during Deep Space Nine?
  • I've been in Australia for the last 3 months (where Farscape is filmed, I believe) and now that I'm back in Canada (where SG-1 is filmed... a few eps filmed up at SFU [www.sfu.ca], I might add) I'm aching to watch some Farscape. A while back, the only canadian channel to have it was YTV (Youth TV), but they cancelled it when they realized that it wasn't really a youth program merely because of the Henson puppets. SPACE [spacecast.com] (our cool ass sci-fi channel) only has ep 2 for this summer :(. So does anyone know of anystation that we can get with basic/extended cable up here in Canada (the left-coast) that carries Farscape?

    Do I have to resort to downloading the episodes again?
  • I got so sick of waiting for new Farscapes - a year is WAY too long!!! So, I downloaded all 5 seasons of Stargate and watched them and all in all, I'll take Stargate over Farscape. Farscape just turned into too much of a soap...it did start out good in the first season though. And Lexx - give me a break! I watched it for a while but it started to get just plain stupid. Truth is the SCIFI channel stinks and at least on my cable service is poor quality video and crappy sound - stereo only.
    • I have to say, SG-1 is definitely the better of the two shows, for just the reason you've mentioned:
      Farscape got to be too soap-opera most of the time.

      Granted, SG-1 can get kinda soapy from tiem to time as well, but at least those episodes are in the minority, and are almost never anything except subplot.

      --The Rizz

      "It is so stupid of modern civilisation to have given up believing in the devil when he is the only explanation of it." --Ronald Knox

  • must be me... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by geekoid ( 135745 ) <dadinportland@y[ ]o.com ['aho' in gap]> on Friday June 07, 2002 @06:18PM (#3662882) Homepage Journal
    ...but I just can't watch SG-1. I find it dull, its writing unimaginitive, and the stories old and done. After watching season 1, I was actually surprised that it caught on. It must just hit the right nerve.

    Farscape, OTOH, is one of the top 3 sci-fi TV shows ever.
    number one is ST(original). Mostly because they where doing things that where ahead of the time, saying stuff that needed to be said, and had a lot of interesting concepts.
    number 2 and 3 kind of switch between Bab5 and farscape.
    • After watching season 1, I was actually surprised that it caught on. It must just hit the right nerve.

      If all you watched was season 1, I can see why you thought that. There are only about 3 or 4 episodes in the first season I'd ever go back and watch - the rest of them were absolute crap.

      Once you get into the second season, however, things start to get MUCH, MUCH better! Go watch season 2 before you write the show off.

      --The Rizz

      "Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything." --G.B. Shaw

    • Re:must be me... (Score:3, Insightful)

      by stubear ( 130454 )
      Many season 1 shows aren't all that great, even (especially?) sci-fi shows. Look at shows like the X-Files, ST:TNG (really all the ST spin-offs) or Earth: Final Conflict. Shows evolve as characters are developed, bad plot decisions from the first seasons are written off and fan input is worked into the new episodes. Stargate: SG-1 took a season or two before many of the kinks were worked out and a few story plotlines could be established. Now if I could only remember when it comes on I'd be set.
      • by On Lawn ( 1073 ) on Friday June 07, 2002 @10:43PM (#3663707) Journal

        To put a real serious rant here....

        I've been a SG-1 fan from the beginning. The cultures are thought out, the government reactions to the cultures have a certain "truth is stranger than fiction" ring to them. The Air Force was on the one hand treating the gate like a hole to be plugged up, and on the other hand wanting to exploit what it could find on the other side.

        But my favorite aspects are...

        1) No captains chairs. No bridges, no ship to ship bantering. Don't get me wrong, I liked Star Trek the first for this, and TNG did it right but SG-1's lack of it was refreshing.

        2) Earth is the star in every episode, terribly outnumbered, flawed, and childishly ideolistic, and the series is ready to show that.

        3) Episodal. I think anyone who wants "story arc" really wants to watch a soap opera. Really they do, except they don't get the geeky "holier than thou" satisfaction of telling people they like daytime television.

        Now, whats wrong with this picture? I've recently watched some taped season 5 episodes, and guess what. Here's what must have happened, a bunch of out of work writers that filled such shows as Babylon 5 and Star Trek DS9 with charectar drama (read paralysis by analysis), story arc (read soap opera), and captains chairs with lots of ship to ship banter have rewritten the SG-1 universe. It has to be.

        One episode the major science words were "Miosis" and "Mitosis" used in a way that made me think they never got past JR High biology. Another had the Gould in a captains chair saying "I'm the great God Osiris, I have nothing to fear". Yet another had a symbiot telling Capt Carter that his former host loved her, I mean really loved her, like really really loved her.

        So I say, "Oh well". What ever these writers are the keep getting jobs can do what they want with SG-1, its basically ruined now. At least we had such episodes in season 5 as "the Tomb" and four other seasons of fun episodes.

        General Hammond looks bored now, nothing for him to do now that SG-1 has taken off on their own (and everyone seems to have forgotten all the other SG teams up to like 24.) Retire General Hammond, and I'll share some beach sand with you remembering the days of good science fiction that took research and thought to write.

    • I think most of today's SF like that "SG StarGate" show is overrated. I really liked older shows, they had much better writing.

      Like Viper! That dude fought crime with that cool car! He was driving all over the place, jumping over stuff and shooting rockets, like that old arcade game NARC! Man, that's what *I* call crime fighting!

      Or what about that other show about the guy in a wheelchair who kicked ass when he put on his super-suit? That guy was the bomb, and a great role model for all wheelchair-bound people. If I was in a wheelchair I'd DEFINITELY invent a suit that let me jump around and fight crime and go to the bathroom by myself!

      And who can forget Misfits of Science? There was a superhero who could get REALLY SMALL! Have you EVER seen anything like that?! Those CRAZY scientific guys! He was SO SMALL!

      Team Knight Rider featured like FIVE TALKING CARS. It was probably the best show of the last 10 years but strangely you never really hear people talking about it. That big truck sounded all tuff when he talked! What a blast! And wasn't one of the cars a chick? I mean, who can THINK of that stuff? Genius.
  • I guess it is time now to become a Farscape fan now that Lexx is off the air.
  • No offence, and I do not intend this as a troll, but WTF? As a survivir of the great BattleStar Galactica "frack off", I can tell you first-hand that swearing in "Sci-Fi"-onese will destroy your chances of ever getting a date.
  • <blatant plug>

    Those of you who haven't explored the Sci-Fi news slashbox may be interested in my review [bureau42.com] of the first season of Stargate SG-1 on DVD that CmdrTaco mentioned. (Season two is due on September 3, if you care.)

    </blatant plug>
  • Does anyone know if the sci-fi channel on sky in the UK has anything to do with this magical channel which is offering new seasons of Stargate and Farscape? A quick (well, long, thanks to the stupid crashing digibox ;) ) look over the next week of whats on my sci-fi channel and theres no stargate, and only old farscape.
  • Well, let me start off of how big of a fan of StarGate I was. Back in '96 I had one of the 3 stargate sites, and worked with the guy who later became the webmaster of the SG1-site. So being a hardcore fan I read that Dean Devlin (producer, and writer of the movie) wanted to make it a trilogy after the books. But MGM wanted money, and thought a series would be a better idea. Fair enough, I gave it a chance- It got worse in my opinion. From the beggining really, changing the name of Shau'ri to Sharay (sp due to lack of accent) Who the hell knows why they needed nudity in the pilot too. And changing of the "Death Glider" name from Udjeet glider made me mad. But reasonably enough, the stories were quite good. After a season or two, I begin leaving the house more and more, and less SG-1-I come back and the plots just seem so ridiculous and complicated that it just needs to be put out of its misery. I mean, from what I understand its story works, but its needlessly complicated and getting worse; Now if sci-fi can help 'em out maybe get things really back on track it'll be good, But I'm also a hard core movie fan, so the show started off bad with me. In any case, Farscape is the most original show I've ever seen, the comedy, plots and characters are great. They have excuses, that star trek never answered as well. Finally, I like it so much because its so original, I've not once been able to guess whats going to happen next, maybe soap-opera-y but its working right now.
  • Until last year I didn't have the Sci-Fi channel so I'd never been able to watch Farscape. Even after I got the SFC I'd usually find something else on TV or just not watch it at all. Then it hit me, the Farscape marathon from last week. It is very rare that I end up so interested in a TV show. Now I can see why there is all the hubbub about the series, it is pretty damn awesome. I've found it to be the perfect mix of space opera and true sci-fi. There are sci-fi elements that make it intriguing and pique geek interest and then there are dramatic elements that easily transcend genres but make the show much better by fleshing it out and humanizing the story. Some parts of the story arc still confuse me but I've just started to watch the show. I wish Enterprise's writers would write some better drama which would really intrigue the audience. Another reason for not watching Farscape is I had it confused for a while with Lexx which actually hurt me on the inside.

    I've been watching SG-1 since it first aired on Showtime (at which point it actually had some nudity). The first two seasons went by pretty slow and it took a while for the series to really hit its stride. I think since season three started it really has. Like others have said, there's no captain's chair or any of the other sci-fi staples we've come to expect. There's aliens but they aren't masterful overloads of MIB, they're real badasses with laser guns trying to kill the characters. I liked the movie so I figured I would give the series a shot and found that I did indeed enjoy it. The things over the years I haven't liked is the increasing amount of Carter-delivered technobabble and the decline of witty banter. O'Neil and Jackson had some of the best banter that was well performed and didn't seem entirely out of place. Both actors delivered it well and the scene didn't pause for the punchline which I absolutely despise. It is a sitcom tactic to pause for a punchline. Now the banter seems entirely one sided with O'Neil delivering lines to no one in particular or saying some sarcastic remark at entirely the wrong time. The technojargonbabble is just crap. Carter is a decent character but I really dislike when she get used to deliver some technospeak that has no real point other than to give O'Neil an oppertunity to come back with a faux witty remark. I'm glad it was picked up by SFC though, it makes a good addition to their lineup. It will be nice to be able to watch the latest season rather than Fox's saturday behind the times filler syndication.
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