Farscape & Stargate SG-1 New Seasons Tonight 223
marekk writes "Frelling A! The fourth season of Farscape, arguably the best Sci-Fi currently on television premieres tonight on the SciFi Channel. You can catch the premiere episode, titled "Crichton Kicks" at 9PM CST. Afterwards, you can watch the premiere of Stargate SG-1's sixth season, "Redemption"." I've been watching the SG1 season 1 box set and am
impressed. Its a solid show, and I'm looking forward to season it without the
benefit of syndication lag, even if there are problems.
As for Farscape... well, Duh!
Farscap start (Score:3, Insightful)
Most of the crew is gone, Talon and Kreis are dead, Moya was sucked in to a workhole and John was left floating in space all alone with no fuel.
What a way to start a new season.
Re:Farscap start (Score:3, Funny)
Hey! Wait one frelling minute!! A 'workhole?' That's what I get sucked into at 08:00 every day when I walk in the door at my employer! Moya had nothing to do with it (lucky her!) unless Boeing's got a sooper-sekrit hangar for Leviathans somewhere on the campus...
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
snarfed! Assuming that "Work" is a blackhole ="workhole"
3C
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
Damn workholes, that's where I'll be spending my night, tonight.
--Travis
Re:Farscap start (Score:2)
Aeryn came back and only one of the two John Chrichtons was killed. Heck we may yet see more of P'au Zhaan.
It will be an interesting season for sure.
Re:Farscap start (Score:2)
The difference, of course, is that they found fragments of Talyn's hull after their escape. That's kind of like finding body parts after an accident. It makes the possibility of resurrection somewhat less likely.
Besides, I think Talyn was getting to be a burden on the writers. They kept having to come up with reasons why he couldn't just fly in and blast the hell out of everything to save the day.
That said, I think the writers could stand to take a page from Joss Whedon's playbook. Take a cool supporting character, give her lots of screen-time to connect with the audience, and then kill her off mercilessly. Gotta keep the viewers on their toes....
Sounds like Buffy (Score:1)
Re:Farscap start (Score:2)
Well, for one thing Talyn was out of control. I sure wouldn't want to have him fly in and blast any where near me.
Crais is a great character and I'd like to see him return in the new season. Lose Jool if someone needs to go.
Re:Farscap start (Score:3, Funny)
No way, man. Have you seen that chick's bellybutton? One of the best special effects on television.
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
Bialar Crais, Aeryn Sun, Chiana, Ka D'Argo, Pa'u Zotoh Zhaan, John Crichton, Joolushko Tunay Fento Hovalis, Rygel XVI, Scorpius, Stark, Pilot, Moya and Talyn.
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
That would be great! However Virginia Hey says she wouldn't come back to the show unless they made her more human looking... the make up was making her sick, plus she had to shave her head and eyebrows off...
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
Yeah, I did, and they had Delvians with hair last season. But I'm on the Virginia Hey mailing list, and this is what she said about it. She just moved to LA and will be in some major movie soon.
Re:Farscap start (Score:1)
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No spoilers here. (Score:1, Insightful)
+1 Informative? -2 Unwarned Spoiler!
makes me wish I had moderator points to keep this tragedy from happening to anyone else who is unlucky enough to not get the show and has to wach it much later.
Re:No spoilers here. (Score:2)
wooo! (Score:1)
No Argument Necessary (Score:1)
Re:No Argument Necessary (Score:2)
Ugh.
*Really misses Doctor Who*
that's backwards (Score:4, Informative)
You're Both Right (Score:1)
You can watch or record it before or after Farscape. I guess that's the best way for SCIFI to make sure Farscape's viewer rub off on SG-1.
no more fox (Score:5, Funny)
Re:no more fox (Score:1)
Re:no more fox (Score:2)
Re:no more fox (Score:1)
Re:no more fox (Score:1)
Re:no more fox (Score:2, Interesting)
YMMV, but I'm looking forward to at least giving it a try, hoping that he has enough clout to keep the fingers of money-hungry network execs from making it the kind of pablum you'd expect from Fox. (Mind you, I won't scream if the show has a little soft-core porn.)
And if it flies, Joss would have his shows on four major TV networks. (Fox, BBC, WB, UPN.) Go rah.
The game (Score:2, Interesting)
Stargate SG-1 (Score:2)
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:2)
I know the first season of Farscape is out, but apparently the going rate is $15 - $20 per disc (with each disc holding only 2 episodes.) Considering that the first season was 22 episodes, I'm not particularly inclined to pay $165 - $220. Such a shame.
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:2, Informative)
Season 2 [tvshowsondvd.com] is scheduled to be released on September 3.
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:2)
Season 4 is out (Score:1)
Re:Season 4 is out (Score:1)
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:1)
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:1)
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:1)
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:1, Informative)
As for me, I have them all downloaded from various sources and burned to SVCD format and they look just as good as DVD.
Re:Stargate SG-1 (Score:2)
Jeremiah [jeremiah.tv]. It's on after Stargate on Showtime, at 10:45 PM eastern.
Don't let the fact that it stars Luke Perry and Malcolm Jamal-Warner scare you off. It's produced (and mostly written) by J. Michael Straczynski, the same guy who did Babylon 5.
Series premise is that a plague wipes out all adults, but spares the children. It's now 15 years after the "Big Death", and the kids have rebuilt, sort of. Lots of post-apocalyptic scenerey and plots, but the general theme and tone of the series is pretty hopeful.
Plus, there's ample swearing/violence -- and nudity. Not as much as the softcore porn on cable, but probably as much as the Sopranos.
BBC Farscape Episode Guide (Score:3, Informative)
Thank you Tivo (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Thank you Tivo (Score:1)
Re:Thank you Tivo (Score:2)
I've actually found (and correct me if I'm wrong) that if a show is offered on multiple channels at the time the season pass is created, it's created only for the specific channel you specify, but, if it only appears on one channel at the time you make the season pass, the season pass is 'global' (because it doesn't need to be exclusionary at the time), and will capture shows on other channels whould they come up in the future.
Well, we'll see. I'm in the same boat, and won't be home until too late.
Re:Thank you Tivo (Score:1)
I don't think that's correct. SPs are definitely tied to a single channel, no matter how or when they were made.
Farscape on DVD - Read before you buy! (Score:4, Informative)
Note: The APEX 600A will also disable CSS copy protection allowing you to copy ANY DVD onto VHS!
In the long run
Re:Farscape on DVD - Read before you buy! (Score:1)
Other good UK DVD seller (Score:1)
--The Rizz
"The trouble with finding your place in the eye of the storm is, you're basically surrounded." --D.C. Simpson
Re:Farscape on DVD - Read before you buy! (Score:2)
Re:Farscape on DVD - Read before you buy! (Score:1)
Re:Farscape on DVD - Read before you buy! (Score:2)
Most
Re:Farscape on DVD - Read before you buy! (Score:1)
They're published in the US by A.D. Vision, the same people that bring us tons of the anime that Taco and I know and love (Gasaraki, Steel Angel Kurumi), and are NOT members of the MPAA.
So buy up!
Re:Doesn't disable CSS... (Score:1)
With an expensive DVD writer and expensive recordable DVDs, you could still copy existing DVDs verbatim (at least, I don't see why not).
The Correct Times (Score:1)
Season continuity from Fox to SciFi: Anyone know? (Score:2)
My question is, now that we're jumping from syndicationto first-run, how many seasons, if any, will I be skipping, and how will I be able to catch up, since apparently Fox is giving up the show (Are they?) and the DVDs are only out for season 1 so far. Anyone know?
Thanks,
Re:Season continuity from Fox to SciFi: Anyone kno (Score:2, Informative)
One thing you might want to do is watch the season 5 opener, as you'll understand a lot more about what's going on in season 5 (but still not quite. You'd probaly need to watch 3 or 4 season 5 episodes to know exactly what is going on and the progression of the Earth and others vs. Goa'uld plot). Episodes can be found in some newsgroups if you want to download them.
Check out this link if you want to know spoilers for season 5:
http://www.gateworld.net/s5/index.shtml [gateworld.net]
Overall, I'm really looking foward to season 6 on sci-fi.
Re:Season continuity from Fox to SciFi: Anyone kno (Score:2, Informative)
I only saw the first 12 or so episodes of season five on ShowTime before I moved (and lost access to pay channels). The linked slashdot article basically sums up the fifth season. I hope they turn it around now that ShowTime is no longer in control.
Re:Season continuity from Fox to SciFi: Anyone kno (Score:2)
According to TiVo, I've been watching most of the 2001 episodes lately, which should mean I'm nearly caught up to Season 6.
(Regarding DVDs, I made a post about this as well, but to add to the concept, it'd be great if we could at least *rent* the DVDs of the shows, even if they don't let us purchase them yet.. I know I'm still seeing episodes I've never seen before and I'd love to be fully caughtup. The ep you mention, I haven't seen yet.
Clearing up some misconceptions... (Score:5, Informative)
Stargate SG-1 was originally a SHOWTIME show. The episodes that run on Fox (aka, syndication) are actually a season behind the Showtime run. When SG-1 ended its fifth season on Showtime, it immediately jumped to Sci-Fi for its sixth season. The Fox run (which is still on season 4) still has another season to go.
Last I checked, Fox was NOT dropping their run of SG-1. It's Showtime that's no longer running it. So, those of you without cable or satellite can rejoice; you still have at least another season.
Re:Clearing up some misconceptions... (Score:2)
There is *NO* Fox run. It's syndicated. In some places that means it's on the Fox affiliate. In others, the WB or UPN affiliate. In others, one not affiliated with any network.
Hell, in some places it's probably on the NBC affiliate.
I thought you people got this concept during Deep Space Nine?
Farscape in Canada?!? (Score:1)
Do I have to resort to downloading the episodes again?
Re:Farscape in Canada?!? (Score:2)
I Dunno...I kinda like SG1 (Score:1)
I agree - SG1 is better (Score:1)
Farscape got to be too soap-opera most of the time.
Granted, SG-1 can get kinda soapy from tiem to time as well, but at least those episodes are in the minority, and are almost never anything except subplot.
--The Rizz
"It is so stupid of modern civilisation to have given up believing in the devil when he is the only explanation of it." --Ronald Knox
must be me... (Score:3, Interesting)
Farscape, OTOH, is one of the top 3 sci-fi TV shows ever.
number one is ST(original). Mostly because they where doing things that where ahead of the time, saying stuff that needed to be said, and had a lot of interesting concepts.
number 2 and 3 kind of switch between Bab5 and farscape.
Try SG-1 seasons 2+ (Score:1)
If all you watched was season 1, I can see why you thought that. There are only about 3 or 4 episodes in the first season I'd ever go back and watch - the rest of them were absolute crap.
Once you get into the second season, however, things start to get MUCH, MUCH better! Go watch season 2 before you write the show off.
--The Rizz
"Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything." --G.B. Shaw
Re:must be me... (Score:3, Insightful)
Waiting for the right place (Score:4, Interesting)
To put a real serious rant here....
I've been a SG-1 fan from the beginning. The cultures are thought out, the government reactions to the cultures have a certain "truth is stranger than fiction" ring to them. The Air Force was on the one hand treating the gate like a hole to be plugged up, and on the other hand wanting to exploit what it could find on the other side.
But my favorite aspects are...
1) No captains chairs. No bridges, no ship to ship bantering. Don't get me wrong, I liked Star Trek the first for this, and TNG did it right but SG-1's lack of it was refreshing.
2) Earth is the star in every episode, terribly outnumbered, flawed, and childishly ideolistic, and the series is ready to show that.
3) Episodal. I think anyone who wants "story arc" really wants to watch a soap opera. Really they do, except they don't get the geeky "holier than thou" satisfaction of telling people they like daytime television.
Now, whats wrong with this picture? I've recently watched some taped season 5 episodes, and guess what. Here's what must have happened, a bunch of out of work writers that filled such shows as Babylon 5 and Star Trek DS9 with charectar drama (read paralysis by analysis), story arc (read soap opera), and captains chairs with lots of ship to ship banter have rewritten the SG-1 universe. It has to be.
One episode the major science words were "Miosis" and "Mitosis" used in a way that made me think they never got past JR High biology. Another had the Gould in a captains chair saying "I'm the great God Osiris, I have nothing to fear". Yet another had a symbiot telling Capt Carter that his former host loved her, I mean really loved her, like really really loved her.
So I say, "Oh well". What ever these writers are the keep getting jobs can do what they want with SG-1, its basically ruined now. At least we had such episodes in season 5 as "the Tomb" and four other seasons of fun episodes.
General Hammond looks bored now, nothing for him to do now that SG-1 has taken off on their own (and everyone seems to have forgotten all the other SG teams up to like 24.) Retire General Hammond, and I'll share some beach sand with you remembering the days of good science fiction that took research and thought to write.
Re:Waiting for the right place (Score:2)
1) The Carter-Mortout thing was alright when was just fine as something you could sense like it was in the first few seasons. It didn't need to get so adolescent. The Carter-Jack and Vanessa Angel thing, I think, was a product of the shows producer (you know who that is). Anyway, your very right, the make-shift romances (except for the Daniel-Shoree one where she was off stage the whole time) was dumb.
2) I don't mind technobabble as long as it makes sence. I remember watching many episodes where people with a much better grasp of technology (like the planet killer woman) would explain what was going on in "Golden Book" simplicity. I thought it was funny and good social commentary how Carter always needed to interpret the simple language into techno-babble. Then the camera would pan to Jack wearing an expression that said sarcasticaly "Oh yes, now I understand."
3) I'll add that not using Shoree during his ascention was missing out (actually I saw the episode after it so maybe I missed it). Daniel quit the show, I hear, because he didn't like where it was going. Daniel was cool though, and was with General Hammond for being just as good if not better than the Movie actor.
There's always been good continuity, like you said. A good example was when Carter's ex-symbiot saving her from the white worms and giving a clue to the rest of the crew how to stop them. But it was down right soap opera story-arc for the last 3/4 of the fifth season.
Continuity (Score:2)
But the series as a whole is on an arc to support the possible spinoff series Stargate: Atlantis.
Re:must be me... (Score:2)
I think most of today's SF like that "SG StarGate" show is overrated. I really liked older shows, they had much better writing.
Like Viper! That dude fought crime with that cool car! He was driving all over the place, jumping over stuff and shooting rockets, like that old arcade game NARC! Man, that's what *I* call crime fighting!
Or what about that other show about the guy in a wheelchair who kicked ass when he put on his super-suit? That guy was the bomb, and a great role model for all wheelchair-bound people. If I was in a wheelchair I'd DEFINITELY invent a suit that let me jump around and fight crime and go to the bathroom by myself!
And who can forget Misfits of Science? There was a superhero who could get REALLY SMALL! Have you EVER seen anything like that?! Those CRAZY scientific guys! He was SO SMALL!
Team Knight Rider featured like FIVE TALKING CARS. It was probably the best show of the last 10 years but strangely you never really hear people talking about it. That big truck sounded all tuff when he talked! What a blast! And wasn't one of the cars a chick? I mean, who can THINK of that stuff? Genius.
Re:must be me... (Score:1)
Excellent show, though sadly cut short. The men in black and all that.
Re:must be me... (Score:1)
Sigh.... (Score:1)
Re:Sigh.... (Score:1)
"Frelling A!"? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:"Frelling A!"? (Score:1)
Speaking of, I'm going to leave work and go see my sexy redhead right now.
Re:"Frelling A!"? (Score:2)
Stargate SG-1 Season 1 DVD (Score:2)
Those of you who haven't explored the Sci-Fi news slashbox may be interested in my review [bureau42.com] of the first season of Stargate SG-1 on DVD that CmdrTaco mentioned. (Season two is due on September 3, if you care.)
</blatant plug>Sci-fi channel UK (Score:1)
Great for both-I think (Score:1)
Duck-Fu (Score:2)
I've been watching SG-1 since it first aired on Showtime (at which point it actually had some nudity). The first two seasons went by pretty slow and it took a while for the series to really hit its stride. I think since season three started it really has. Like others have said, there's no captain's chair or any of the other sci-fi staples we've come to expect. There's aliens but they aren't masterful overloads of MIB, they're real badasses with laser guns trying to kill the characters. I liked the movie so I figured I would give the series a shot and found that I did indeed enjoy it. The things over the years I haven't liked is the increasing amount of Carter-delivered technobabble and the decline of witty banter. O'Neil and Jackson had some of the best banter that was well performed and didn't seem entirely out of place. Both actors delivered it well and the scene didn't pause for the punchline which I absolutely despise. It is a sitcom tactic to pause for a punchline. Now the banter seems entirely one sided with O'Neil delivering lines to no one in particular or saying some sarcastic remark at entirely the wrong time. The technojargonbabble is just crap. Carter is a decent character but I really dislike when she get used to deliver some technospeak that has no real point other than to give O'Neil an oppertunity to come back with a faux witty remark. I'm glad it was picked up by SFC though, it makes a good addition to their lineup. It will be nice to be able to watch the latest season rather than Fox's saturday behind the times filler syndication.
Get a life. TV? How gauche. (Score:2)
Re:I can't wait till the next season of 24 starts! (Score:1)
Re:I can't wait till the next season of 24 starts! (Score:1)
The last 10 minutes didn't ruin it for me, but MAN did it hurt to see Jack's wife die. I mean, that sucked a lot. An awful lot.
As to Palmer's bitch wife? She got what she deserved. She wasn't stupid, she was manipulative. And I could believe it, from the way her character was portrayed. And she's not going to be a future first lady. Once the Secret Service is called in to keep her away from Palmer? Phbt. She's gone. Palmer might be the first single man to get the Presidency. He sure deserved it anyhow.
I dunno about a second season of 24... I fear it won't be as good. It's got a lot to keep up to.
Oh, and whoever posted stuff screwed up the schedule. SG-1 comes on at 9PM Eastern, and Farscape comes on at 10PM Eastern. That -is- 9PM Central, but SG-1 comes on -first-, not after. So remember folks, don't rely on Slashdot for your TV schedule news.
Doublecheck me, too. Just in case.
Re:I can't wait till the next season of 24 starts! (Score:1)
True, but it will cost Palmer the Presidency, which is just stupid. Just like killing off Jack's wife is also stupid.
Of course, there are plenty of plot holes. Like why was Mrs. Bauer allowed to roam CTU unescorted? And why wasn't the surveillance video of Jamie's "suicide" examined earlier? And why are CTU employees allowed to make unmonitored cell phone calls inside the building? Cell phones shouldn't even be working inside that building! These are obvious security holes.
Re:I can't wait till the next season of 24 starts! (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure that all of these things fall into the category of stuff that makes the show possible. If the show were totally realistic, you never could have gotten a suspenseful, engaging story out of it.
Besides, the stuff you mentioned just isn't that big a deal, unless you go looking for things to complain about. While everything you said is valid, none of it jumped off the screen and prevented me from enjoying the show.
Re:I can't wait till the next season of 24 starts! (Score:1)
http://www.fujisan.demon.co.uk/USPresident
Re:I can't wait till the next season of 24 starts! (Score:1)
Re:Too bad I can't watch it.... (Score:2)
Guh. We've been over this ground before, but I don't feel like finding a link to the old thread now. When you buy cable TV service from the cable company, you're buying the bandwidth and the wires and all of that transport-layer stuff. You're not actually buying the program content itself. That's paid for by advertising. (Except for premium channels, of course.)
The fact that you only watch 5 of the 50 channels doesn't really make any difference to the cable company. It costs them the same to provide you with the wires and whatnot. So it doesn't really make sense for them to charge you by the channel.
Re:Too bad I can't watch it.... (Score:2)
They do pay for there channels, and if they find too few people watch a certian chanell(becasue noone will pay for it) they can quit carrying it.
so You might be able to have a min. mo. payment of like 10 bucks, just to have service, then
Cable an sat. companies do charge too much for there service. They should be allowed to have cometition on the cables. There monopoly has been around long enough to re-coup the cost of laying cable, and they could split maintainence costs amongs all there competitors that use the same cables.
You will never see fair pricing from a for profit orginization, without competition.
Re:let's be honest - these shows suck and... (Score:4, Insightful)
I hate when people say stuff like this. A show doesn't have to be universally accepted as 'good' for somebody to enjoy it.
I'm a Deep Space Nine fan. I even like the bad eps of DS9 because I have found something I really appreciate about it: it's overall visual quality. The sets are very nice and the effects are top notch.
Do I expect everybody to like DS9? Nope. I found something in particular I really like about it. There are a lot of people that say it sucks. So what? It just means that those people don't appreciate the same stuff that I do.
Call me a loser over it, however, and all you're doing to do is convince me that you judge people for petty reasons. "You suck because you like shows that I don't."
You can't measure somebody by the shows they watch. All you're doing is giving other people a means to judge you, negatively.
Re:let's be honest - these shows suck and... (Score:1)
Ok, then you can be friends with the people that enjoy the fights on "Jerry Springer" and "WWF".
I'll choose the people that like "The West Wing" and "Farspace".
Re:ok... (Score:1)
Re:I hate Farscape(but you prolly lapped up ATOTC) (Score:1)
Farscape is QUITE GOOD. Certainly a far better production using less budget but the same type muppets as the Lucas drivel.
Rejoice that it continues. Dread that it will, like all good things, stop being so good. Let's hope that day is far off.
Re:I hate Farscape(but you prolly lapped up ATOTC) (Score:2)
* WARNING - Farscape Spoiler Below *
I actually liked Lexx. Never watched it till about 6 months ago, and then I managed to find nearly all the episodes and catch up.
Yes, its a very childish show, and at times brings back memories of very bad 70s German Soft-porn. But they did stuff on that show that no other show would dare to do.
The one distinct advantage Lexx had over Farscape was that the main characters were always the same. Stanley, Xev and Kai. Sure, Xev changed to Zev, you got Lykka for a while, and Prince for a while, but the Crew of The Lexx were always the main three characters.
Whereas Farscape added Chiana, Jool and New Chick from tonight, and lost Zhaan. And man is Jool annoying!
I'm still trying to get a few of the S4 Lexx episodes I've never seen. I do think that S3 of Lexx was a masterpiece.
Characters (Score:2)
The ever changing landscape of characters is extremely interesting. Some are annoying, some are cool, and all of them add new elements and depth to the plot.
Overall I find it superior to the shows that are only episodic and always have the same characters with no chance that they'll die or evolve. Data from ST:TNG is a perfect example. I can't think of how many different shows they had him learn emotions or different elements of being human only to have him revert back to emotionless android the next time.
Farscape's risk taking with new characters and plot is to be commended. It resembles life better, though I will admit that their occasional flights of fancy and wierdness both delight and scare (the cartoon episode).
Overall it's a wonderful show that makes for some damn good entertainment.
Next Generation (Score:1)
Re:Frelling A! (Score:2, Insightful)