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Star Trek: Nemesis Trailer to Premiere Tonight 325

savagexp writes "Dark Horizons is reporting that the trailer for the next Star Trek movie will premiere tonight on Entertainment Tonight and via the official website tonight at 7:30 EST." Makes me wish I could stomach ET, or at least had some real bandwidth. Hopefully it'll get placed in front of some of the movies coming in the next few weeks (maybe MiB2?)
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Star Trek: Nemesis Trailer to Premiere Tonight

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  • Hmm.. (Score:2, Informative)

    by ChrisMG999 ( 308536 )
    Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be on apple's quicktime site. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/)
    • Re:Hmm.. (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Kwikymart ( 90332 )
      Or, maybe we will be even luckier and it wont even be released in quicktime at all!
      • Movie Format (Score:5, Informative)

        by nullard ( 541520 ) <nullprogramNO@SPAMvoicesinmyhead.cc> on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @12:10PM (#3770457) Journal
        Or, maybe we will be even luckier and it wont even be released in quicktime at all!

        Or maybe we will be even luckier and group of /.ers who can't differentiate between a file format and a codec will get a clue and stop bashing QuickTime when they are pissed off at Sorrenson's licensing. QuickTime is the perfect format for distributing multimedia since it is the most widely supported format. Also: old applications that used to play QuickTime movies continue to work with the new versions perfectly. You can still use MoviePlayer 2.5 to watch QuickTime 5 movies. The whole framework was is elegantly designed and very expandable. If you don't like not being ablt to watch QuickTime movies on Linux, find a better, more free codec to use and convince the trailer makers to adopt it.

        In any case the original article [startrek.com] says:
        The "Star Trek: Nemesis" trailer will then launch online ... in the QuickTime format ... additional streaming formats will also be available soon.
        • I perfectly understand the difference between a file format and a codec. But neither of the two that are related to QuickTime are published standards. Therefore, at least in my opinion, they suck. Both of them. THEREFORE, I can say that QuickTime files, as a whole, suck.
          • Re:Movie Format (Score:2, Insightful)

            by gbooker ( 60148 )
            I perfectly understand the difference between a file format and a codec. But neither of the two that are related to QuickTime are published standards. Therefore, at least in my opinion, they suck. Both of them. THEREFORE, I can say that QuickTime files, as a whole, suck.

            It is true that the codec is not a publish standard, but the file format is! I have read descriptions of the file format and C code that reads it, all from Apple's web site. Perhaps you should do some research before you go on an uninformed tirade.
      • My thoughts exactly. QuickTime thinks it runs on my computer, but it doesn't. I hear everything as it plays, but nothing is displayed.

        QuickTime software sucks and hogs the processor and I don't like the nag screen.

        Ok. Now I can sleep again.
    • Re:Hmm.. (Score:2, Informative)

      by koganuts ( 526569 )
      "Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be on apple's quicktime site. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/)"

      Looks like it will [startrek.com]: 'The "Star Trek: Nemesis' trailer will then launch online in conjunction with the official movie Web site. Both will go live at 7:30 p.m. PDT/10:30 p.m. EDT Wednesday, with the trailer in the QuickTime format (Courtesy of Apple -- please see link below [it just points to http://www.apple.com/quicktime/]). The trailer will be available in small, large and full-screen sizes (QuickTime Pro 5 required for full-screen viewing). Additional streaming formats will also be available soon. The movie Web site will be accessible via STARTREK.COM."
  • by fishlet ( 93611 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @11:50AM (#3770283)
    I guess I'll have to wait a while longer.
    Scene:

    Picard: Fire photon torpedo's
    Yoda: Diverts torpedo's with a wave of his paw.
  • by JonWan ( 456212 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @11:50AM (#3770289)
    The public premier was last weekend in Tulsa at the Sci-Fi Con. I've got a 3" DVD of it that was given away at Tulsa.

    • by jonfromspace ( 179394 ) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `snikliwnoj'> on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @11:55AM (#3770348)
      So rip it and post it dude... Man... I have to think of everything...

    • Well the actual "press release" information about the trailer mentions that it was originally shown at the convention in Tulsa.

      http://www.startrek.com/news/news.asp?ID=124934 [startrek.com]
    • Earlier this morning, in a post [slashdot.org] that was was (amusingly enough) moderated both as interesting and as a troll, with respect to Lucas' onging fight against the freedom of information on the internet I commented:

      But a mental note to self that "Lucas sucks (even worse than his last two films)" when Slashdot starts promoting the low-rez sorinsen quicktime tailers for Episode III might be appropriate (in the next story, if /. remains true to form) and a personal boycott of his products (past, present, and future) even more so.

      As an aside, one has to wonder what sorts of payola scams exist here, for a site the promotes free software and open source as this one does to constantly be promoting the wares of the one industry that has launched successful attacks against free software and its developers

      OK, it wasn't a Lucas Star Wars movie trailer, but rather a Star Trek trailer. Nevertheless the point remains ... slashdot continues its shameless promotion of the product of an industry that has effectively declared war against the modern internet in general, on Free Software in particular, and has successfully attacked Free Software developers for deCSS and LiViD through letigious thuggary.

      I will continue to voice my irritation at this behavior so long as the slashdot editors continue to engage in the hypocracy of denouncing the behavior of these cartels with one breath, while promoting their products shamelessly with the next.

      No slight against Star Trek or Wil intended, rather an expression of distaste of a more generalized problem.
      • I will continue to voice my irritation at this behavior so long as the slashdot editors continue to engage in the hypocracy of denouncing the behavior of these cartels with one breath, while promoting their products shamelessly with the next.

        And I will continue to voice my irritation at people who pick two individuals out of a group, point out their differences of opinion, and call the group a bunch of hypocrites for disagreeing.

        If you ever see Michael or Timothy pimping a movie, feel free to come out swinging. They're the ones rallying the troops against Big Media, not Taco or Hemos.

        • And I will continue to voice my irritation at people who pick two individuals out of a group, point out their differences of opinion, and call the group a bunch of hypocrites for disagreeing.

          If you ever see Michael or Timothy pimping a movie, feel free to come out swinging. They're the ones rallying the troops against Big Media


          You mean like THIS [slashdot.org]?

          I think my point stands rather clearly, as underscored by the actions of the very people you were defending (don't blame yourself, it is their fault for being hypocrits, not yours).
  • Man do I ever hope this film will include the TNG staff and not one of the later soap opera type series. My friend has a Deanna Troy action figure on which the red paint on the chest has been rubbed off.
    • My friend has a Deanna Troy action figure on which the red paint on the chest has been rubbed off.

      Heh. I remember rummaging through my old Star Wars toys a few years ago. I had to chuckle when I noticed my Princess Leia figure had indelable smudges all over her chest from my years of fondling her as a child. Hey, let's face it. As a wee kiddie I didn't have access to Playboy. And I had no idea what the Internet was. So groping my precious Leia figure was the only sexual release a poor young GMD could get.

      Gees I dunno why I'm telling you all this. I hope I don't get billed from psych counsuling from CmdrTaco....

      GMD

    • by iiii ( 541004 )
      No need to scrape the paint off. There are actual real nude pix [hollywoodfilth.com] of her out there.
  • by Lemmy Caution ( 8378 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @11:51AM (#3770295) Homepage
    On Earth Prime, it would be unthinkable, what I am thinking now: I have no interest in any of the Star Wars movies, and I'm looking forward to seeing Wesley Crusher in the new Star Trek movie.

    Now you'll have to excuse me, the perpetual motion machine is a little loud, and needs to be oiled.

  • by LordNimon ( 85072 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @11:51AM (#3770298)
    ... the first time I use my TiVo to fast forward through a show so I can watch the commercials.
  • Hmmm... (Score:4, Funny)

    by jonfromspace ( 179394 ) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `snikliwnoj'> on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @11:53AM (#3770317)
    From the site:
    The new "Star Trek: Nemesis" trailer runs 1:34 and will also play in theaters, starting with the July 4th weekend. The official "Star Trek: Nemesis" movie site will give fans plenty to whet their appetites, with stunning imagery from the film, a 360-degree IPIX view of the Romulan Senate set


    Wow... the IS a use for IPIX :)

    • Re:Hmmm... (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Buran ( 150348 )
      It certainly took them long enough to have the Rihannsu ... err, Romulans ... get a real role in one of the films. Too bad it never happened while I played one in an online RPG. But I still have an interest in them as a lingering result.

      If you want to learn more about them, find a copy of Diane Duane's novel The Romulan Way, preferably at a good used-book shop. It's not canon because it's just a novel, but it's damn good. It explains their form of government. (Incidentally, the "Senate" dates to ancient Roman times, I do believe. Many of the ranks the Romulans used, e.g. centurion, do as well.)
  • ...where no one has gone before, getting fatter, balder along the way.
    • Re:to go... (Score:3, Funny)

      by GungaDan ( 195739 )
      Exactly how will Picard become more bald?

      • > Exactly how will Picard become more bald?
        By using whatever technique it is that Jimmy Doohan uses to get fatter (I'm not sure yet whether he's massive enough to implode into a black hole yet, but he's a damn find candidate for "where is the missing mass of the Universe" :)
  • "Hopefully it'll get placed in front of some of the movies coming in the next few weeks (maybe MiB2?)" According to this post [trektoday.com], it will indeed air in front of Men in Black II. And there's already a shot-by-shot [trektoday.com] breakdown online.
  • by fruey ( 563914 )
    nemesis Pronunciation Key (nm-ss) n. pl. nemeses (-sz)

    A source of harm or ruin: Uncritical trust is my nemesis.
    Sounds like the Slashdot effect

    Retributive justice in its execution or outcome: To follow the proposed course of action is to invite nemesis.
    i.e., clicking the link at the launch time is inviting Nemesis...

    An opponent that cannot be beaten or overcome.
    The unconscious attitude that rests, all the same, with Slashdot readers... that they will get to see the page even though thousands of others are all trying at the same time.

    One that inflicts retribution or vengeance.
    It will be in Quicktime no doubt and everyone will be seeking their Wine, so maybe that should be re-distribution (changing distro?) so that they have better Quicktime support in friendly RPM format (yes I'm getting tenuous now)

    Nemesis Greek Mythology. The goddess of retributive justice or vengeance.
    Godesses... Rather than cite any myself (OK, I always fancied a bit of Deanna Troi [startrek.com] actually) I invite you to comment...

    • you forgot one (from snatch ;)

      Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this instance by an 'orrible cunt... me!

  • Uhh.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by legoboy ( 39651 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @11:56AM (#3770355)
    Makes me wish I could stomach ET

    Why does CmdrTaco want to eat a cute, cuddly alien?

    • I think he means he can't stomach Eastern Time. That's got to be rough, living in Michigan. Perhaps he'd be better off if he moved across the lake to Chicago (Central Time).
  • EST eh? (Score:2, Funny)

    by saddino ( 183491 )
    "Dark Horizons is reporting that the trailer for the next Star Trek movie will premiere tonight on Entertainment Tonight and via the official website tonight at 7:30 EST."

    Data: Captain, although /. mentions EST, I find it 99.999% likely that the time is actually EDT, especially given that the US is on Daylight Savings time.
    Picard: Well put, Data. That is precisely why the Federation uses the Stardate time standard.
    Guinan: More oil, Data, honey.

  • 2,4,6,8...? (Score:1, Redundant)

    by jgman ( 136006 )
    I will be interested to see if the rule of Star Trek movies follows with Nemesis. Odd number Trek movies suck, even numbers rule.

    Odd -
    Motion Picture - Tried too hard for artistry
    Search For Spock - it just blew!
    The Final Frontier - Spock's Half Brother? Gah!
    Generations - They could have done so much between the casts and didn't
    Insurrection - I just couldn't buy those alien bad guys.

    Even -
    Wrath of Khan - Rocks! Gotta love Kirk yelling KHAAAAAAN!
    The Voyage Home - So many great lines. Merged the comedic aspects very well. Nuclear wessels!
    The Undiscovered Country - My personal Favorite. Gotta Love the zero grav scene. Guess who's coming to Dinner.
    First Contact - Time Travel... Gotta Love Time Travel. Now if they would only set a Star Trek Movie in the Mirror, Mirror Universe.
    Nemesis - ?

    I have high hopes this pattern will not disappoint me on this Tenth movie.
    • STIII:TSFS was highly underrated. It didn't blow.
    • by Saige ( 53303 )
      Generations - They could have done so much between the casts and didn't

      Screw that - what made Generations so bad was a plot hole big enough to fly the entire Federtion fleet through all at once.

      Let's see, distress call at station, Enterprise goes to help, bad guy abucts Geordi and blows up star, getting away. Eventually, they track him down, Picard goes to planet, fails to stop him, sucked into Nexus. While in Nexus, Picard can travel to ANY point in time? Does he go back to back in orbit, knowing where to use torpedos/phasers to destroy the launch site? Does he go back to just when the star explodes, so they can head STRAIGHT to the destination planet, beating the other ship? Or, even more intelligently, does he go back to when they first arrive at the station, so they can toss the bad guy in the brig, search the station, find the torpedo set to destroy the star, and prevent the whole thing?

      OF COURSE NOT. We go back to just a couple minutes ago, with an overweight, horrible actor playing a previous Enterprise captain, at a time when they still have a really tough time defeating the enemy - never mind that they could be totally aware that, should they screw up, they'd go back into the Nexus to try again, and again, and again.

      Why go back to that moment? It makes absolutely no sense, unless you're deliberately trying to make stopping the bad guy as DIFFICULT as possible.

      Oh, and BTW, First Contact's huge plot hole? The Borg could simply have sent the probe back in time at some other place in the galaxy, not having alerted the federation to their plans, therefore, not having had any challenge to their assimilation. But then again, adding time travel instantly makes it insanely difficult to prevent plot holes, due to the way things can work out.

      I thought Insurrection was the best of the three because of the comparative lack of plot holes.
      • While in Nexus, Picard can travel to ANY point in time? Does he go back to back in orbit, knowing where to use torpedos/phasers to destroy the launch site? Does he go back to just when the star explodes, so they can head STRAIGHT to the destination planet, beating the other ship? Or, even more intelligently, does he go back to when they first arrive at the station, so they can toss the bad guy in the brig, search the station, find the torpedo set to destroy the star, and prevent the whole thing?

        Perhaps he was afraid going back too far would cause problems in the timeline. Also, I'm wondering if there'd be an issue with two Picards and Kirk suddenly being aboard Enterprise. Although, I suppose the Picard returning from the Nexus must replace the already-existing Picard, since Kirk and he didn't run into himself on the planet's surface.

        I thought the entire concept was cheesy, though, so what am I doing trying to defend it?

        Oh, and BTW, First Contact's huge plot hole? The Borg could simply have sent the probe back in time at some other place in the galaxy, not having alerted the federation to their plans...

        I got the impression the Borg were just planning a full-scale assault on Earth, and the time-travel idea was hatched after they realized they were going to get blown up. Remember, Picard was supposed to be watching the neutral zone. Had he not defied Starfleet orders, the Borg cube would probably have wiped out the fleet in short order, and then begun the process of assimilating Earth.
    • Re:2,4,6,8...? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by gilroy ( 155262 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @03:58PM (#3772432) Homepage Journal
      Blockquoth the poster:

      First Contact - Time Travel... Gotta Love Time Travel.

      Oh, time travel is so hackneyed, especially in the Trekverse. But more importantly, First Contact ruined the Borg. Well, OK, "I, Hugh" began the degeneration, but First Contact was the final nail in the coffin.


      The original Borg was/were the only truly alien aliens in Trek. Their ships were ungraceful (for a reason). They violated bilateral symmetry. Their motives were so alien as to be impossible to even recognize as motives. They were implacable, nigh-omnipotent, and -- most important of all -- not like some subset of humanity with a bad nose. Indeed, they were a reasonable (sort of) extrapolation of Net technology, an honest answer to a what-if question, the best element of sci fi.


      What made them stand out was their communal decemtralized mind... a true unified consciousness, something emergent from the individual entities contained in the Borg net. What did First Contact do? It fell for the cliche "hive mind", took a weak metaphor (social insects) and expanded it, somehow, into a concept even weaker. A Borg Queen? Please! The true Borg would have no truck with a queen, a king, a president, or anything that makes one part more significant/important than another.


      Let's say it again, class: The true Borg are decentralized and distributed. A "Borg Queen" is the exact antithesis of what the Borg were.


      Arrgh. It bothers me every time I think about it. Grrr.

      • Re:2,4,6,8...? (Score:3, Interesting)

        by leperjuice ( 18261 )
        I have to agree with you mostly, but I can suggest a real-life computing situation where a "queen" is necessary for operation of the collective.

        Windows 2000 domains.

        Any flaming aside, Windows 2k has something called FSMO ("fizzmo") roles. Short for "Flexible Single Master Operation", the roles correspond to tasks that only one machine in the entire enterprise can do. This is to avoid any sort of duplication/collision of effort for certain important roles. Now, unless you actively do anything, the first box you bring up handles all the tasks (Schema Master, Domain Naming Master, PDC Emulator, RID Master, and Infrastructure Master if you're curious). Any machine can take over any or all of the roles, but there must be only one box handling a role. However, aside from the FSMO roles, all domain controllers are logically equivalent in terms of importance to the domain.

        So, how does this correlate to the Borg? Well, assuming that there are a number of roles to play that are essential to the operation of the collective and that destruction of the master would cause a disruption in the collective mind until regeneration (think of a lost token in tokenring) so you'd choose a protected unit. This would be the "queen". Ideally, however, the system would be such that any unit could take over any or all of the roles quickly in case of danger.

        Of course, why she'd be all slinky and with a removable head is beyond me.
  • Makes me wish I could stomach ET, or at least had some real bandwidth.

    ...Y'know, Taco, now would be a really good time to upgrade from your Worldcom 56k dialup...

    • Erm... that's a quote from what savagexp wrote, not from what CmdrTaco wrote. Remember... the stuff in quotes and italics was written by the article submitter... not the Slashdot editorial staff.
  • by MAXOMENOS ( 9802 ) <mike@mikesmYEATS ... n.com minus poet> on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @12:20PM (#3770528) Homepage
    Wil? You there? Does your employment contract with Paramount allow you to geek out on this topic?
  • by themexican ( 245083 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @12:27PM (#3770569)
    According to the offical T3 site [terminator3.com] the T3 teaser will be playing in front of Men in Black.
  • Heh.. (Score:4, Funny)

    by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @12:28PM (#3770575) Homepage Journal
    Great. They've been Slashdotted. I can just see Commander Data drumming his fingers on the console waiting for the hourglass to go away.
  • by embarcadero ( 568047 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @12:54PM (#3770784)
    Plot: The Ribbon comes swooping by early 21st Century San Francisco and deposits a young Wesley Crusher in the famous rainbow-striped shirt at the corner of Haight and Ashbury. The story unfolds as he battles depression, overcome that the once-hip intersection is now dominated by a huge Starbucks, serving only Earl Grey, hot, and Mint Tea, hot, with a Ben and Jerry's across the street. He retreats to a small internet cafe and spends the next twenty years working on his blog, and occasionally visiting Gracie the whale at the Monterey Bay Aquarium, which for some reason has been moved ninety miles to the City. At the age of 37, Wesley's snatched out of the oncoming path of a hurtling Suliban-driven MUNI bus by a Traveler from another time, who does some weird magic with his hands and looks despondent, and suddenly they're both in a huge City in the far-distant future, where everything is destruction and decay, and all the citizens are dead. "This wasn't supposed to happen," says the Traveler. Roll credits
  • MiB2?? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by jerkychew ( 80913 )
    Everywhere I turn, I hear about a different trailer being attached to Men In Black 2. First it was The Two Towers, then Terminator 3, and now this? Whatever happened to going to the movies to see the movie??
  • by simetra ( 155655 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @01:13PM (#3770931) Homepage Journal
    3 countem 3 boners in one!

    Synopsis: A band of gay space gnomes, aboard the U.S.S. Fellow Ship (get it, fellow, ship, heh heh) team up with the Lucasfilm Muppets(tm) to kill the one guy on the bridge of the Enterprise which nobody knows (and hence won't miss when he dies).

    A splendid time is guaranteed for all!
  • I wish I could remember the exact quote, but Tim of Spaced [spaced-out.org.uk] has some line about "death, taxes and the enevitability that the next Star Trek movie will suck." (if a true Spaced freak can help me out, it's in series one, episode 5 "Chaos" where Tim and his 'boss' are in the comic shop talking.)
  • I'm Trailer Trash (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DeadBugs ( 546475 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @01:54PM (#3771288) Homepage
    It seems the Trailers are becoming more of interest than the movies. I make it a point to get to the movie on time so I don't miss the trailers. My girlfriend could not understand how I could like the "Hulk" trailer, that should next to nothing about a movie that will not be out for a year. I thought it was cool
  • Odd or Even (Score:3, Funny)

    by philzama ( 582467 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @02:26PM (#3771502)
    Is it the Odd numbered ones that suck or even. I think it the Odd. =)
  • Since Enterprise is on UPN tonight at 8:00 (only half-hour following the "premiere", I'ld expect to be able to catch it a few times tonight...

    So, you only need to catch it on ET if you absolutely must see it @7:30 rather than @8:00 or if you are one of those unlucky few without a UPN station.
    • So, you only need to catch it on ET if you absolutely must see it @7:30 rather than @8:00 or if you are one of those unlucky few without a UPN station.

      Or, if you don't want to watch the rerun of Enterprise. Unless it's one of the 2 or 3 I missed, I'm skipping it. Please, let the new season start soon!
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  • Here in the heart of East Coast USA, the Wednesday edition of ET has come and gone, and no sign of the trailer. I guess I'll just have to wait til tomorrow morning when I'm back at work with my big fat pipe....
  • by koganuts ( 526569 ) on Wednesday June 26, 2002 @07:51PM (#3775160)
    Right... here [mediatrek.com].
  • I am staying in the office waiting for the Star Trek trailer, on the excuse that
    1) 7pm the carpool is lifted, and
    2) it's only a "half hour" wait, and
    3) office connection is about 1.8x that of the DSL at home.

    i am so glad there is no "pathetic loser" mod.
  • Other site (Score:2, Informative)

    by Optikal ( 462280 )
    I get a 403 Forbidden when trying to get to nemesis.startrek.com (The official site). I'm sure I'm not the only one. The trailer wasn't officially up at Apple's QuickTime trailers site, but I did find it nonetheless with common sense.

    It can be found here http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/star_trek_ nemesis/
  • by gbooker ( 60148 )
    Well, I got the full screen version, and it said that it doesn't allow saving. So... I did a get info on the movie, and lo and behold, there is an entry called source which is a URL. I typed this into wget, and it is downloading. For those who want to save it, here is the akamai URL:

    http://a1536.g.akamai.net/5/1536/51/979a9ce9df5cda / a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02 589f25382f668c9329e0375e81787e85abb28970c7aee1d900 465d736aa1c81ec4bb91e8bf063cc3f6ed037/star_trek_ne mesis_fs.l.mov [akamai.net].

    Enjoy. BTW, if this goes 404, just follow the procedure that I use listed above.

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