The Who's John Entwistle Dead 382
crazyj was among several Slashdot readers who, knowing my obsession with the greatest band of all time, submitted that The Who's John Entwistle died. His death occured one day before the start of their
summer tour. The Ox was an amazing bassist, and I'm glad I got to see him play. Those fingers would just fly up that fretboard. He'll be missed.
Hope I die before I get old. (Score:4, Insightful)
I hope I outlive slashdot. (Score:1, Funny)
not me! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:not me! (Score:2)
Re:not me! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:not me! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:not me! (Score:2)
Un-lame.
So sayeth the filter.
Re:not me! (Score:2)
Re:not me! (Score:2)
There is no comma after "nation". It should read, "One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"
Try it. It sounds better.
Re:Hope I die before I get old. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Hope I die before I get old. (Score:2, Funny)
Not to worry. (Score:2)
Re:+5 (Score:4, Interesting)
I will also never forget the time I brought the guy a cup of tea when he made an appearance at a radio station I was working in while I was in college. We had a nice chat, and I told him of the importance of his music to me and of my passion for playing inspired in no small part by him. He was a true, almost stereotypical 'English Gentleman' and I will always hold that experience very dear to my heart.
I am genuinely saddened by this news.
Re:+5 (Score:2)
God Bless him where ever he is.
Woohoo (Score:2)
Man... (Score:1)
Sorry, but... (Score:1, Funny)
a sad day (Score:1)
He touched many lives, and his music will carry on his spirit.
:(
It's always sad to see musicians and talent go. (Score:1)
The Who was a great band. He will be missed. Let's all reflect on those great artists of all types that have all gone, but left us with great things. This isn't a time for arguement about music and bands, but a time for reflection and mourning for this man.
Re:It's always sad to see musicians and talent go. (Score:1, Troll)
Re:It's always sad to see musicians and talent go. (Score:4, Insightful)
Excuse my hostility, but comments like this annoy me. When will people realize that shoving God down one's throat is exactly like prohibiting public mention of God?
Freedom of speech goes both ways. Do not force one to speak or not speak. Say Heaven or God or whatever strikes your fancy, but don't force others to say it with you. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?
Rest in peace, Ox. (Score:5, Insightful)
Whoa (Score:4, Funny)
Majored in recreational pharmacology, did you?
Ticket exchange (Score:1)
Ahhh, so now what do I do with my concert tickets for this tour?
Thanks John, we'll be seein' ya ole chap, ya done good!
boris (Score:1)
amazing bass tone.
OK...I stole this from Roe & Garry in Chicago. (Score:4, Funny)
Ann Landers - Talking girls out of going past 2nd base for years.
Darryl Kyle - Tried to keep guys off of first base.
John Entwhistle - More and more bass.
How does Lance Bass pronouce his last name? And is he being shot off anytime soon?
B
Re:OK...I stole this from Roe & Garry in Chica (Score:2)
They'll just replace him with the constant stock of animatronic dummy replicas they have on hand.
OT: Roe and Garrry are Fabulous! (Score:2)
That show was much about negative space (silences), similar to what Howard (Blecch!) Stern does.
BORING!
R&G have wonderful repartee' going every single day. They're not poseurs, and it shows.Their news guy is easily as funny as either one of them, but keeps it in his pants, when he's not on vacation (Hi,.Jim!).
They're utterly genuine.
you can listen to them at:
http://play.rbn.com/?url=abcradiog2/wlsam/g2
check them out!
Sad day. (Score:4, Insightful)
I agree.
But the editors have determined that this is appropriate for the slashdot audience.
I agree.
It's another sad day. It's another hero that I'll miss.
Best of luck to you John.
Re:Sad day. (Score:2)
Taco has made references to his "Who habit" ever since this site started. This is as much a Slashdot topic as any of that "Your Rights Online" crap.
Re:Sad day. (Score:2)
Best of luck to you John.
Ahem. It's a little late for that.
The guy doesn't exist anymore
I will never forget... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I will never forget... (Score:2, Insightful)
Off topic (Score:2, Insightful)
Now he's up above my head (Score:4, Insightful)
"Boris The Spider"
Look, he's crawling up my wall
Black and hairy, very small
Now he's up above my head
Hanging by a little thread
Boris the spider
Boris the spider
Now he's dropped on to the floor
Heading for the bedroom door
Maybe he's as scared as me
Where's he gone now, I can't see
Boris the spider
Boris the spider
Creepy, crawly
Creepy, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
There he is wrapped in a ball
Doesn't seem to move at all
Perhaps he's dead, I'll just make sure
Pick this book up off the floor
Boris the spider
Boris the spider
Creepy, crawly
Creepy, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
He's come to a sticky end
Don't think he will ever mend
Never more will he crawl 'round
He's embedded in the ground
Boris the spider
Boris the spider
And I'm oh so tired of running. (Score:3, Insightful)
"My Wife"
My life's in jeopardy
Murdered in cold blood is what I'm gonna be
I ain't been home since Friday night
And now my wife is coming after me
Give me police protection
Gonna buy a gun so
I can look after number one
Give me a bodyguard
A back belt Judo expert with a machine gun
Gonna buy a tank and an aeroplane
When she catches up with me
Won't be no time to explain
She thinks I've been with another woman
And that's enough to send her half insane
Gonna buy a fast car
Put on my lead boots
And take a long, long drive
I may end up spending all my money
But I'll still be alive
All I did was have a bit too much to drink
And I picked the wrong precinct
Got picked up by the law
And now I ain't got time to think
Gonna buy a tank and an aeroplane
When she catches up with me
Won't be no time to explain
She thinks I've been with another woman
And that's enough to send her half insane
Gonna buy a fast car
Put on my lead boots
And take a long, long drive
I may end up spending all my money
But I'll still be alive
And I'm oh so tired of running
Gonna lay down on the floor
I gotta rest some time so
I can get to run some more
She's comin'!
She's comin'!
Re:And I'm oh so tired of running. (Score:3, Interesting)
Pity he didn't write more.
He did, actually. He put out several solo albums in the 70's. They're all great and I highly recommend them. Some of them are already on CD and I think the rest will be. Either way there is a 'Best of' CD out. Good stuff.
The best comment on John's writing I've seen was along the lines of, "He had the misfortune of being a good songwriter in a band with a great one."
Thanks for the music, Ox.
Re:And I'm oh so tired of running. (Score:2, Insightful)
Heaven and Hell
On top of the sky is a place where you go if you've done nothing wrong,
If you've done nothing wrong.
And down in the ground is a place where you go if you've been a bad boy,
If you've been a bad boy.
Why can't we have eternal life,
And never die,
Never die?
In the place up above you grow feather wings and you fly round and round,
With a harp singing hymns.
And down in the ground you grow horns and a tail and you carry a fork,
And burn away.
Why can't we have eternal life, And never die,
Never die?
I know you were a bad boy, John, but I think we know where you are...
pete
Too Damn Bad... (Score:2)
*SIGH*
I did get to see him play the single greatest bass line in all of Rock and Roll once.
It was at a huge stadium in LA, but I was close enough to see the transparent spiderweb design on his bass during the solo but in _My Generation_. Of course that fact that he was talking to stage hand or someone as he played it flawlessly only added to my esteem for him.
Creepy crawly creepy crawly...
*SIGH*
=tkk
Damn... (Score:2, Interesting)
Oh well, Rest in Peace, Ox.
roger and pete (Score:2)
The Ox will be missed. I also seem to be regretting not shelling out the $65 to see them on their last tour.
With Respect (Score:2)
"Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy"
Rest In Peace John
Re:With Respect (Score:2)
Re:With Respect (Score:2)
Confusion (Score:2, Flamebait)
CmdrTaco... (Score:2)
CmdrTaco is a Who fan yet he disses the disc golfers? Doesn't make much sense considering we are one in the same audience.
Sure some disc golfers might not be Who fans, yet they substitute with others like Zeppelin, Rush, etc, etc...
Anybody see the Who recently? (Score:2)
Anyhoo, even if they had released nothing more than Quadrophenia (their best, IMHO, and it also has Entwistle's best work on it) and spent the rest of their lives sipping mint juleps on a cottage by the beach, John (and the rest ot them when their time comes) will still be missed by me. Missed, with gratitude.
This brought to mind a quote from Pete Townsend (Score:4, Insightful)
Live At Leeds (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Live At Leeds (Score:2)
Live at Leeds is widely considered to be the finest live Who concert ever.
CD 1:
Heaven and Hell
I Can't Explain
Fortune Teller
Tattoo
Young Man Blues
Substitute
Happy Jack
I'm A Boy
A Quick One While He's Away
Summertime Blues
Shakin' All Over
My Generation
Magic Bus (without a doubt, the finest rendition of this song ever)
CD 2:
Overture
It's A Boy
1921
Amazing Journey
Sparks
Eyesight To the Blind (The Hawker)
Christmas
The Acid Queen
Pinball Wizard
Do You Think It's Alright?
Fiddle About
Tommy Can You Hear Me?
There's A Doctor
Go To The Mirror
Smash The Mirror
Miracle Cure
Sally Simpson
I'm Free
Tommy's Holiday Camp
We're Not Gonna Take It
Ok, so it's in bad taste but I could not resist (Score:3, Funny)
(I'm originally from Toronto, the Who's favourite concert town, so don't flame me.)
Earth recieve an honoured guest (Score:2, Insightful)
John Entwhistle died today.
After the end of period when the Beatles could
still channel my adolescent angst and rage
(a period doubtless extended with a fixation on
John L.) and the start of the period
when I realized the punk and arty new wave
were the dynamic movements (or moments) of my generation
and the place where I wanted to be, I had The Who.
John Entwhistle was the first rock musician who
inspired me (not that the inspiration took)
purely in a musical sense. He
was the only rock bassist to turn the bass guitar
in a solo instrument thru sheer virtuosity
(McCartney's bass, the only other bassist
that ever made an impression on me*,
could stand out by virtue of its melodiousness).
He was a musical Atlas on which the band rested in part,
and rhythmically he was an integral unit with the legendary
Keith Moon. And this integration was necessary given that Moon,
a great innovator,
was turning the drums themselves into a kind of melodic instrument.
I find it odd that some of the most grounded seeming of
Sixties Rock Icons (John E. and George Harrisson) are dying
off at these relatively young ages. They avoided the
extravagance that killed off the Glorious Dead (Hendrix, Jones,
Joplin, etc). Of course, maybe appearing low key in an art
form based on explosive expressiveness implies that one has
one of those unhealthy personalities that holds too much in.
Or maybe it doesn't imply anything except, to quote Auden,
"all the instruments agree, the day of his death was a dark
cold day."
* the one exception is Tony Visconti playing on Bowie's
The Man Who Sold The World, especially songs like Width Of A Circle
and Black Country Rock.
Did his wife ever catch up to him? (Score:2, Funny)
Excellent... excellent... (Score:2, Funny)
Muahahahahahah!!!
Goodbye, John (Score:2)
Its great that many people in their teens and twenties recognize the fact that rock music is just not as good today as it once was. I defy you to name a single current band that has the power and creativity of The Who in their heydey. And they were but one of several.
I salute Slashdot for pointing out the corruption in the music industry and pushing for a music scene that is less corporate-controlled and more vibrant and creative.
This to me is definitely stuff that matters. Goodbye John, thanks for all the great tunes.
I met him once (Score:5, Funny)
The Who was supposed to play here (LA) in 2 days. It is a great loss to the fans of the band in particular, and to Rock and Roll in general. Mr. Entwhistle was a class act. Thanks for the memories.
-Sy
TANJ, I was having a good day. (Score:2)
Us Celts believe that when a person dies, thet go to the Otherworld, a place that is better than this...think if your idealistic summer day, not too hot, not too cold. Many of your friends are there, and you meet other who become your friend. Then, when you are rested and ready to take on this World again, you are reborn here, which is why Celts mourn a birth.
Damn, that must be a great jam session, John arriving there to see Jim Morrison and Jimmy Hendrix on stage, and suddenly the there is a sound from behind the drum kit, and Keith Moon comes storming out from behind the drums and gives John a bone crushing hug and says "I hate to see you here so soon, but I am going to love playing with you again!"
ttyl
Farrell
A sad day indeed (Score:2)
Guess who made a guest appearance?
Listening to "My Wife" LIVE ranks as #1. Totally rocks. The Kids are Alright live cut is #2, and I can't stand the watered down studio cut. Some Who songs were just meant to be performed live.
Damn! (Score:2)
Don't cry... (Score:2)
It's only teenage wasteland
With apologies to Abbott and Costello... (Score:2)
Abbott: Yes.
Costello: And you don't know the fellows' names.
Abbott: Well I should.
Costello: Well then who's on stage?
Abbott: Yes.
Costello: I mean the band's name.
Abbott: The Who.
Costello: The guys on stage.
Abbott: The Who.
Costello: The first act.
Abbott: The Who.
Costello: The guy playing...
Abbott: Who is on stage!
Costello: I'm asking you who's on Stage.
Abbott: That's the band's name.
Costello: The Who's name?
Abbott: Yes.
Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.
Abbott: That's it.
Costello: The Who?
Abbott: Yes.
Re:With apologies to Abbott and Costello... (Score:2)
> Costello: The Who's name?
> Abbott: Yes.
> Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.
> Abbott: That's it.
> Costello: The Who?
> Abbott: Yes.
Costello: So Yes is on stage...
Abbott: No, Yes isn't even at the concert!
Chris Mattern
huge loss to the bass world (Score:2)
Long Live Rock!
ABC News tribute. (Score:2)
On ABC's "World News Now" late-night news program they did a nice tribute to John, and a surprisingly long one for a mainstream media outlet. (I'd estimate about two minutes in a thirty-minus-commercials program.) They showed and played clips of the Who while they talked about his life.
Also, right after their tribute came their weather segment, where they traditionally play music and show zoo clips while listing world-wide temperatures. This morning they played "Boris the Spider" during the clip, announcing it as one of John's songs before they started. (Also, amusingly, the zoo clip was of a small flock of penquins wandering through a town.)
Re:for those who read the comments before the arti (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Yeah (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Yeah (Score:2)
Re:Yeah (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Yeah (Score:2)
Quite frankly, he did nothing I wouldn't have done myself in the same type of situation. If/when Peter Gabriel dies, for instance, I'm publishing it to the front page of Electric Minds. I respect Rob's judgement, as I hope EMinders would respect mine.
Not that I know... (Score:2)
I wonder if there is a reason why the underrated songwriters in legendary bands (cf. G. Harrison) have gone. Probably just a coincidence.
Rest in peace.
Re:What about the tour? (Score:2, Insightful)
And where, pray tell, could they find someone to replace him? There's just not many (any?) of his calibre.
I picked up the bass because of players like John Entwistle and Chris Squire...
A sad day, indeed.
Re:What about the tour? (Score:2)
I just read this earlier today and thought about what a great perspective they have for aging musicians being labelled as a "nostalgia" act. They were planning to go back into the studio in October for the first time in 20 years. Would have been nice to see them prove the critics wrong by putting together a yet another classic album.
From the article I'm sure that Daltry and Townshend will continue to express themselves in one way or another, but without a third party, I doubt they'll overcome the still obvious tensions to work together very much.
Rock is dead. (Score:2)
I'm sure glad I got to see The Who perform live at least once in my lifetime, at the Cotton Bowl on Sept 3, 1989 with the Fabulous Thunderbirds, Stevie Ray Vaughn and The Who. Oh, man, what a show that was. Peace be with you John Entwistle.
Re:What about the tour? (Score:2)
Re:You can't replace something like that... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
Well, I did look for a prior poll before writing my post. I specifically searched through the polls for "musio", "musician", "band", "artist" and came up empty.
If there is a relevant poll that you know of, could you please provide a link to it?
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
Best Summer Concert [slashdot.org]. It's the second most active in the hof [slashdot.org].
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:3, Funny)
one- as far as i know, cowboy neal isn't in a band.
two- you can't possibly reasonably poll a large crowd in this sort of thing with less than a hundred options. Maybe twenty to twenty five percent of the slashdot crowd might choose their favorite band from those listed, but you've got a pretty diverse crowd here. I'm sure other choices might include: Sex Pistols, Kraftwerk, Johnny Cash, Green Day, Moby, Frank Sinatra, Rage Against the Machine...
just to name a few.
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
Look [cowboyneal.org]
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
In order to be a "greatest band" poll and have The Who be contenders, there ought to be some ground rules.
Now, my suggestions, in no particular order:
Honorable mention:
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
One thing always confuses me seeing this sort of list, though: why do Deep Purple NEVER get mentioned? Has Smoke On The Water hit their credibility _that_ badly? (Hint - as with most bands' famous songs, it's nothing like their best)
I could bang on for hours about Deep Purple, more great songs than I can be bothered to list, amazing variety and they could _really_ play live. Listen to Made in Japan for proof there. Not like they were unknown in the US either, being seriously big in 73-74ish. Watch 'Almost Famous' - the party where Russell Hammond almost kills himself, there's some music playing quite loudly
Go out there, listen to some Deep Purple. Particularly In Rock, Machine Head, Made in Japan, Burn or Purpendicular. They're cool.
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
I mean, who considers Yellow Submarine or Help to be the Beatles' artistic peak? My Generation for the Who? And so on...
People, they're a much better band than the Dan Dan Song (its studio name, seriously...) makes them sound.
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
Here are my best guesses at the [demon.co.uk]
lyrics - any idea about the missing ones? or corrections? I mailed back the card for lyrics but they never arrived. 12 Steps in particular is hard to make out.
If you don't put there... (Score:2)
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
I was quickly consoled by the knowledge that it wouldn't be long before someone pointed it out though...
THE GRATEFUL DEAD (Score:2)
Re:Oasis? Radiohead? (Score:2)
Re:Greatest band of all time? Time for a new poll? (Score:2)
You got me.. lookin' up high
You got me.. searchin' down low
You got me.. I know you know
You got me jerkin' back 'n' forth
Men without hats was also really good.
Re:I thought.... (Score:2)
Sorry if I've hurt you when your down and out.
I obviously touched a nerve here - sorry your hero died.
I guess i'm juse a bit diferent than you - I'll save the sorrow for when one of my family, friends or pets dies.
Good luck with your greif, and hope you find another hero soon.
Re:I thought.... (Score:2)
while i appreciate the who, they're not my heroes. it's just that every time an obituary is posted on slashdot, somebody jumps on it for not being news for nerds, displaying blatant disrespect for those that DO mourn the death. this has really irked me for quite a while, and for some random, unknown reason, your post set me off on a rant.
i'll definitely miss one of the most innovative bands of the last half-century though.
Re:I thought.... (Score:2)
To me, tradgity is the deat of a child, a child just becoming consience and is just begining to dream.
An older musician, somebody who lived his dreams, passing on seem normal.
If someone told me that "my mom died", I'd have sympathy, but if someone told me "my favorite author died" I'd just shrug.
I guess I've never had any form of entertainment touch me like my friends and family do.
Lamenting the loss of a loved one, to me, is natural. Lamenting the loss of a source of entertainment just seems hollow, to me.
Oh well, to each his own.
Re:I thought.... (Score:2)
I'm going to say this real slowly, and use small words:
grief
is
not
a
rational
emotion
I'm not a huge Who fan, but I do know that if I don't share the grief I shut my fucking mouth and go about my business. I do not try to share my "superior" attitude with the grief stricken to stroke my own ego and brag about how "mature" I am.
If you don't like the incivility in this, maybe now you understand how your previous postings have been received by some people here.
Re:I thought.... (Score:2)
Obviously, you are a huge fan of the musicians in the band 'Who.' in order to be so weirdly defensive.
Maby, if you spent more time with your frinds, family and real people - you'd understand my shock of people boo-hooing over the loss of entertainment.
Especially in this case, where the persion is quiestion's life should have been celebrated as a kick-ass example of someone doing what they love and having fun doing it.
This whole thing reminds me of all the fake wailing and moaning when 'Lady Di' died. Hell, 99.99% of the 'mouners' haden't even seen the woman, let alone developed a relationship.
I'll leave you to your amusements, and apparently, your heros of god like stature. Try not to let your 'entertainments' rule your life - especially the ones with advertisements.
Upon refection I do know where your coming from, I had the same reaction when I figgured that Santa Clause wasen't real. And, quite frankly, if a little pain is caused by getting people to wake up from their 'pop-culture' dreams, and even if pepole have an ill though nasty word tward me, so be it. It's only slashdot.
Re:I thought.... (Score:2)
I didn't have any strong feelings when Lady Di died, either, but I was polite enough to keep my mouth shut.
Re:I thought.... (Score:2)
Simple: You saw me engaging, in what you though, was insensitive behaviour and you spoke up. Well done, and to be encouraged. Now, here's the hard part, give others the same license you give yourself.
I guess this is a case of diferance. I do recomend, though, that swareing doesen't augment your argument.
I don't know who John Postel is so I can't comment on that. But, I do disagree that impersonal plublicly displayed greif over a personality is somehow 'classy.' It's actually, intuelectually pathetic, childish and usually insincere.
Well anyways...I guess we just disagree.
...
I do miss the days before MTV, when pop music was judged on its poetry, style and beauty. Now days, generally, pop music is judged by the beauty of it's lead singer, and the slick marketing of the lables. It's sad to see that pop culture is loosing *all* of it's graces and is really quite shamefull to think that this is the best, as a socioty, we can do.
There is hope - The Lord of The Rings is good literature and is popluar at the same time, The Simpsons episodes are witty and aserbic. Hopefully, as a population we can choose to make things like 'Survivor' and 'Entertainment Tonight' go away.
Here's to good rock, fun and poetic at the same time.
Cheers.
Re:Let's piss on his tombstone (Score:2)
Re:Is anybody ELSE finding this weird ?!? (Score:2)
George Harrison
Re:The Who? (Score:2)
Um, unformatted means empty, formats means to erase (format c:), so, wouldnt it be our culture writes us or something?
Re:The Who Fucking Sell-out (Score:2, Insightful)
It is bullshit that the Who did indeed Sell Out quite a bit after their final "break up" but who cares? I would have liked to see a "A Quick One While He's Away" for my own eyes.
Carl