Caffeine May Reduce Alzheimers 251
thelars writes "This article discusses research that links coffee consumption to a reduced risk of alzheimers disease. According to the article, drinking at least three cups of coffee a day may reduce your risk of alzheimers by up to 60%. Time to stock up on Penguin mints..."
hahahaha (Score:3, Funny)
hmmm coffee (Score:3, Funny)
Aluminum? (Score:1)
Re:Aluminum? (Score:2)
Like I said...I don't have a link to back this up with at the moment...I'll take a look around.
Re:Uh, earth to you... (Score:1)
Re:Aluminum? (Score:2)
The reason why there are more alzheimers cases now than there were 50 years ago is not because of aluminum, but because people live longer. According to my sister, a nurse at an alzheimers care facility, most patients are over 85. When you get that old, your brain just goes to shit.
I am saved (Score:1, Funny)
Just what we need (Score:1, Funny)
Other things that help. (Score:3, Insightful)
I'd guess coffee does not help for the same reason .
Re:Other things that help. (Score:2, Interesting)
Of course, if this were true, then I'd imagine that halucinogenic drugs probably also reduce the risk of alzheimer's.
Penguin Mints? (Score:1, Interesting)
Just go for a nice cup 'o Joe instead.
Re:Penguin Mints? (Score:2)
Re:Penguin Mints? (Score:2)
Those looking for some good info on these and other artificial sweeteners should look here [holisticmed.com]. It also states that Stevia is about the only sweetener that is safe for diabetics (I've tasted it, it's quite gross, but better than nothing.)
Sigh. (Score:3, Funny)
So basically... (Score:5, Funny)
However, this article [msnbc.com] says that alcohol may reduce Alzheimers.
So in other words...the best thing I can do is drink Irish coffee?
- JoeShmoe
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Re:So basically... (Score:2)
Oddly these things keep coming out on what is good for you. Guess what, that is called the Italian and French lifestyle. And generally coffee is not as good as espresso is.
Also if you look at France and Italy they drink fresh coffee in those neat single serving machines and Italians love their espresso machines.
Re:So basically... (Score:1)
Yep - this is slashdot after all.
(Sorry, couldn't resist
Re:So basically... (Score:2)
Re:So basically... (Score:2)
Re:So basically... (Score:2)
Re:So basically... (Score:2)
However, this article [msnbc.com] says that alcohol may reduce Alzheimers.
So in other words...the best thing I can do is drink Irish coffee?
My guess is that the mechanism that supposedly reduces Alzheimers is the thinning of the blood.
My un-educated theory is that the brain gets more blood flow when the blood is thinned out. It would be interesting to see if blood thinning drugs have the same effect, or if high cholesterol levels correlate to higher instances of Alzheimers.
it's a conspiracy.... (Score:1)
No alzheimers? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:No alzheimers? (Score:2)
They are saying that sleep deprevation and caffiene is a surefire way to get, at the very least, Type II diabetes, later on in life.
JonKatz at 90 (Score:3, Funny)
You bastard! Now you got me wondering what Jon Katz is going to be like lecturing his grandkids:
"Ah, yes, I still remember where I was when I watched the two towers come down on 9/11. That was a life changing event, I tell you. Back in my day, people actually tried to help each other out instead of withdrawing into these confangled virtual reality contraptions you kids play with these days. Hey, sit down Jeffery and listen. I ain't done with my story yet. Maybe you'll learn somethin'. Now where was I? Oh yes, that Coumbine shooting was a life changing event, I tell you. Did I ever tell you about that? I did? Well, I'm gonna tell you again so quit your squirming an' listen up. Now the important thing was that I was wearing an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. We did it to protest the growing threat of globalism..."
GMD
Parkinson's too (Score:2, Informative)
Check out this CNN story [cnn.com]
Re:Parkinson's too (Score:2, Informative)
Cause and effect? (Score:5, Interesting)
I wonder if what is actually happening is the caffeine allows you to do more mental work, which in turn reduces your risk of Alzheimers.
Pure speculation, of course, but it would be interesting if someone could do the experiement to try to validate this theory.
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:1)
Then, how do you explain that guys post above?
I definetly don't get drunk and play crossword puzzles.
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:3, Informative)
Another interesting and plausible theory. As is so often the case, we need a proper controlled study to distinguish the correlation from the cause and effect.
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:2)
How many people drink 3 cups of coffee a day and then sit in front of the tv for 12 hours?
I need the energy for when I go on a pr0n-renting spree.
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:2)
I need the energy for when I go on a pr0n-renting spree.
Renting porn? Shame on you! Aren't you afraid that we're going to laugh at you?
You should be downloading it for free instead! And you call yourself a geek! Hmmmph!
GMD
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:2)
I rent the DVD and rip it, then put it in my Kaaza shared directory for ALL to download for free. pr0n for the masses! H@cK tH3 pL@N3t!!!!
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:2)
DAMN! What the hell is your IP? I just keep getting the same damn Rocco flicks with different names over and over. Or those damn Vercci ones...
Errr...
Well, a friend asked me to type this.
Yea. Yea, that's the ticket. Yea. A friend. Yea.
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:2)
But if it is caffine, then lots of soda is drunk in front of TV sets.
Everybody seems to be assuming that it's the caffine. And it might be. But that's not what was reported.
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:3, Interesting)
There is a line in there that says "Scientists suspect that the caffine...", but the reported results don't say that. So I suspect that their experimental results are specifically on coffee. (It would be interesting to know if they were on people who drank any particular kind of coffee, or if they were on any particular group of people [there might be other commonalities].)
caffeine also increases risk of hypertension (Score:2)
known neurological effects of caffeine (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:known neurological effects of caffeine (Score:2)
~Will
Re:Cause and effect? (Score:2)
Now wait a second.. (Score:1)
Well, I guess.. (Score:1)
What if it doesn't? (Score:1)
Study shows most studies are flawed... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Study shows most studies are flawed... (Score:2)
People with Alzheimers drink 1 cup a day... (Score:2)
"Good morning, Mrs. Smith, I'd like to ask you a few questions."
"Little Johnny? Is that you?"
"No, Mrs Smith, I'm doing a study on coffee and Altzheimers..."
"What did you do with my cat?"
"Uh.. right... anyway..."
"Who are you? Why are you in my room..."
Yah - like I trust the memory of people with Altzheimers.
My grandmother had it. My grandparents would pick me up, and we would head off somewhere. She would ask about 4 times where we were going. She confused me with my dad constantly.
Re:People with Alzheimers drink 1 cup a day... (Score:2)
When we were growing up we'd go visit, and my grandma would always ask my brother and I if we had a dog. We'd politely say, "No gramma, we don't have a dog." and five minutes later be repeating ourselves. Her response was also, always, the same: Every boy should have a dog.
Finally, my mum grew so sick of it that she said, "I know lyin is wrong but if she asks you one more damn time you tell her you have a dog!"
A few years later, we were on a fairly lengthy road trip of a few hours and about 30 minutes away from the house (Away from any place to use a restroom of any sort, even the bad ones) she pipes up, "Excuse me, I need to use the restroom." -- we start to panic, and explain to her she'll have to hold it for just a bit longer. By the time we got back to the house she had completely forgotten (and was insisting she never had to) about going to the bathroom. That worried us, but luckily the car seat was still dry.
Re:People with Alzheimers drink 1 cup a day... (Score:2)
Or just get a damn dog! Everyone should have a dog... Everyone should have a dog as sweet and lovely as mine.
Interesting, but ... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Interesting, but ... (Score:4, Funny)
Absolutely, because we live in the day of "The Latest Study Shows..." The Latest Study [tm] is all that counts.
Reduce Your Risk of Alzheimers (Score:4, Insightful)
Short Term side effects of excessive consumption of caffeine include:
Nervousness, anxiety, irritability, headache, disturbed sleep, and stomach upset or peptic ulcers. In women, it may aggravate the symptoms of premenstrual syndrome
Re:Reduce Your Risk of Alzheimers (Score:1)
http://www.naspe-patients.org/patients/substanc
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public
Re:Reduce Your Risk of Alzheimers (Score:3, Funny)
Holy shit, I've got all of those! (except the PMS thing).
good with the bad... (Score:1)
its all about which you want to go first, your brain or heart. decisions... decisions...
Coffee != Caffeine (Score:1, Insightful)
Good point (Score:2, Informative)
Taco must be getting old (Score:1)
don't drink so much coffee.
I quit (Score:1)
Actually, I found it very surprising all the things that have caffeine in them. Over half of all pop, chocolate, tea, excedrin, coffee/cappuccino yogurt, etc. (I never ate that kind of yogurt before though.)
Re:I quit (Score:1)
I have a heart rhythm disorder and I've been avoiding caffeine for over a year.. it's really difficult at first. But it's amazing how much better I feel without it in my diet. I'm not exhausted and headachy on my weekends like I used to be..
Other anti-sleep drugs? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Other anti-sleep drugs? (Score:2, Interesting)
It'd sure be nice. I used modafinil a lot back when I was in school, and it was so much smoother than drinking coffee. No big high or low, just a banishing of tiredness and a minor feeling of alertness. Combine that with reducing risk of Alzheimers and you'd get one heck of a combo.
ya but... (Score:2)
However I beleive that it is only cooking in aluminum that does it... thats why cast aluminum pots are very bad. and aluminum foil. but their not gunna tell you that are they. nope. you buy too much of the stuff as a society for it to be a concern.
thats why i never cook anything in aluminum - and try to avoid anything served in it. like microwave foods.
Re:ya but... (Score:2)
This may be the first positive results (Score:2)
I read Caffeine Blues by Stephen Cherniske a while back. Before the book, I was a regular coffee and soda drinker, and Penguin Mints were a staple on my desk. Since reading it, I've been caffeine-free for 6 months. And I've felt much better ever since.
The book cites tons of studies, and none of them claim anything beneficial about caffeine consumption. At best, most industry-funded studies showed no harm, and some of the more nuetral studies showed potential problems associated with chronic caffeine intake.
In fact, prior to reading this book, the only good thing I read about caffeine was about 10 years ago on Hyperreal [hyperreal.org]'s chemistry archive. I found a tidbit that said some study showed that coffee drinkers were less prone to suicide than non-coffee drinkers. I can;t seem to locate it, though.
I'm not preaching to anyone -- I still sneak in a morning coffee. And I really do miss my regular morning cup. However, if a die-hard (and quite rational) coffee drinker can be turned by this book, then all I'm saying is tread carefully. Thumb through this book while drinking a latte at Barnes and Noble. :)
Re:This may be the first positive results (Score:2)
Let's get this straight. You read this book, that was slanted against caffeine, that said, essentially, no one can find anything of benefit from caffeine, and some studies can find potential problems from cronic intake.
Were you consuming caffeine because it was cool? Or maybe you were consuming caffeine because it's a mild stimulant, and can aid in focus and in staving off sleep. So, in point of fact, there is a benefit to caffeine, so long as it isn't overused.
On the one hand, I'm failing to see your point about this book that scared you off caffeine, and on the other, I'm upset that you could be scared off caffiene and describe yourself as "quite rational."
Case not made.
Re:This may be the first positive results (Score:2)
I simply stated that this might be only study showing a positive health benefit to caffeine, and that there are plenty of studies showing no effect, and even a few showing negative effects. My anectdotal account of my reading the book was just that.
The book's author concludes that 3 cups of coffee per day (what the headline summary states) is way too much. Daily intake (like a morning cup of cofee) is "chronic". If you want his analysis, read the book.
All I'm saying is that readers should be cautious before they believe that their coffee and Mountain Dew habbit might actually be healthy.
And I never drank coffee to look "cool". Coffee is some fine-tasting stuff! :)
Please link to the study/publication. (Score:1)
Re:Please link to the study/publication. (Score:1)
Crap....
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PLEASE MOD UP (Score:2)
Assumtion is the mother of all fuckups. - Under Siege 2
Please post any and all information you can. People always bitch about how the government engages in "disinformation", because people "have the right to know". Well, don't do yourself on accident what you don't want them doing on purpose.
CORRECTION (Score:2)
Small sample sizes ... (Score:1)
Even the most basic course in statistics won't let you put much trust in these results. You could probably show a correlation in the same small population for tv viewing habits or propensity for wearing tinfoil hats.
-j
Something to remember...(ha, ha) (Score:5, Informative)
yeah baby (Score:1)
Being for Seattle this is no shock. (Score:1)
Re: (Score:1)
But wait... (Score:1)
Catch-22 (Score:3, Funny)
Alcaloids (Score:1)
Why would I care? (Score:2)
Re:Why would I care? (Score:2)
Wrong (Score:2, Insightful)
Most likely, those with a high caffine consumption don't live long enough to get alzeimers.
ffs (Score:2)
This story wasn't planted to help thinkgeeks sales (Score:2, Insightful)
Schizophrenics smoke cigarettes (Score:2)
Three cups ?! (Score:2)
I don't know... (Score:2)
I watched him completely forget his surroundings, even forget who his own family was. I remember the last Christmas I spent with him; he was just a mindless body confused and frustrated by the fact that he could not understand anything that went on around him.
So I guess that coffee might help, but watching my grandfather experience Alzeihmer's even as a coffee drinker leaves me a bit skeptical (I know, I know, other factors play into it as well, such as genetics and other lifestyle factors, but still...)
This sucks! (Score:2)
Re:This sucks! (Score:2)
No, I got it from my doctor, which was backed up by a number of studies. Most people who suffer from anxiety disorders (something like 95%) have a genetic defect that leads to a defecency in several neurotransmitters. Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, and other members of the SSRI (Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors) deal with one of those neurotransmitters (Seratonin, as the name would imply). Some of the newer ones, like Effexor deal with two.
I've done quite a bit of research about anxiety disorders, having suffered from them for years. I would be 10 to 1 odds that I know a shitload more about it than you.
Re:This sucks! (Score:2)
Here [nih.gov] are some [depression.org.uk] places where you can begin to educate yourself.
I'll never get alzheimers (Score:2, Funny)
If moderate caffiene (Score:2)
ulcers, heart disease... (Score:2)
I quit caffeine (Score:2)
I'm a bit sceptical (Score:5, Interesting)
Now she has rapidly-advancing Alzheimer's and it's not a pretty sight. She's in perfect physical health, strong heart & lungs and may last another 5 years until her brain deteriorates to the point where it forgets how to breathe.
She's only been diagnosed with Alzheimer's in the last 2 years and she's already forgotten her children, husband, and grandchildren. She can't dress herself, can barely feed herself (you have to keep reminding her to pick up the spoon and eat) and will sometimes hold animated, rambling, incoherent conversations with inanimate objects. Yet somehow she still remembers her dog, who stays loyally by her side, her constant companion.
It's a sad, sad disease and reminds me of what my grandmother once told me when I was small, "There are things worse than death and scarier, too." I didn't understand then, but I do now.
They may be onto something, but I'll be a bit sceptical until they do more research. And I'll still have another cup of coffee or two. Not necessarily because I believe it will help (My aunt has Alzheimer's as well, she's always in a fetal position and totally unresponsive now.) but because I enjoy it. (And some days I NEED it. Sleep? What's that?)
This is BS (Score:2)
If you are intelligent note this in the article:
"The UK Alzheimers Society urged caution in interpreting the findings, saying studies examining the link between dementia and diet and lifestyle could give a clearer understanding."
How do we know it's the caffeine? (Score:2)
There are hundreds of uncommon chemicals in coffee. The article doesn't present any evidence that it's the caffeine in coffee that is producing the beneficial effect, just that there's a correlation between coffee and reduced alzheimers.
The article goes on to state:
Scientists found people with alzheimers drank 74mg of caffeine a day - the equivalent of one cup of coffee or two to three cups of tea. Those without the disease averaged 200mg a day.
but these measurements are clearly bogus, since this is a retrospective study which never actually measured the caffeine content of the coffee the users have ingested over the years. They're simply taking the average caffeine content of a cup of coffee and doing a bit of multiplication.
Of course, to really find out, you'd have to do a study of regular coffee drinkers vs. decaf drinkers, and decaf hasn't been available long enough to properly do such a study. Even then, most decaffeination processes use nasty chemicals or excessive heat, which will alter the whole chemical balance anyhow. So, you'd really have to do a long term study of straight caffeine supplementation vs. null, and, my, science is hard.
I, of course, don't receive the European Journal of Neurology, but this really sounds like, "Coffee is beneficial, it must be the caffeine, yay!, we don't have to feel bad about being addicts."
Re:SBUX?? (Score:1)
Ah well...
Re:SBUX?? (Score:2)
Re:Shaking (Score:2)