Adult Swim Revamps; Removes Most Anime 546
E. Megas writes "According to a Collegiate Presswire story, Cartoon Network (Probably due to its recent acquisition of Futurama) is expanding its Adult Swim schedule to Monday through Thursday starting January 12th. The "Comedy" block on Sundays will stay, but except for Inu-Yasha and Cowboy Bebop (Which will replace the Toonami Midnight Run block on the weekday slots) the Saturday "Action" block will be gone. This means that the legendary series Mobile Suit Gundam will not be aired in full for the second time in a row on CN. Future airings of Yuu Yuu Hakusho and Outlaw Star-And the planned re-airing of Gundam 0080: War In the Pocket-Are thrown into doubt by this decision as well. More schedule details in the article. (Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?)"
tastes good to me (Score:5, Funny)
Death to dubs (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Death to dubs (Score:4, Insightful)
(Maybe they're marginally more mature than the programming American kids get, but not by much. Gundam is still an extra-long toy ad)
Re:Death to dubs (Score:2, Insightful)
sealab 2021, home movies, oblongs, and now futurama are among the only watchable things on television.
most of the anime on tv is uninspired shite.
Re:Death to dubs (Score:2, Insightful)
Not that animated semi-nudity or three-day fight sequences are bad, but I sure don't like having to think to enjoy TV...
As much as some would like to think ... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:As much as some would like to think ... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Well (Score:2, Interesting)
You think Sailor Moon the original is not suitable for kids ? Was it anything to do with the occasional torture, death, crucifiction of main characters, the nudity, the homosexuality or perhaps the main character being a new Messiah ?
graspee the sailor moon fan
Re:Well (Score:5, Insightful)
Sailor Moon will always be a kid's show. The uncensored version had some occasional bits that conventional American families found objectionable- their loss.
Nudity and sexuality aren't evil, twisting choice pieces of a religion into entertainment is commonplace, and large scale violence (99% consequence free!) is an accepted staple of Saturday morning cartoons. Adult fans like to cling to those elements as proof that they're not really watching 24 minutes of commericals for pink plastic jewlery, but they're in denial.
The only part of Sailor Moon that I would hesitate to show to American youngsters is something you didn't mention- because of drastically different firearms ownership laws in Japan and the US, portrayl of kids playing with a real-looking toy gun might be a safety-hazard in America. (Or an invitation for a lawsuit)
Re:Death to dubs (Score:2, Insightful)
I can see some of the sex scene cuts just because the channel is otherwise child oriented (and not likely to be on the parental block list) But for goodness sakes, editing the blood out of scenes! cripes even the simpsons show a little blood from time time to time.
I'd pay access fees for a varied all anime network.
Yes, you are. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Yes, you are. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Yes, you are. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Yes, you are. (Score:2)
LOL... but... isn't your username from one [transformers.com]? (granted it was from the movie based off the series but...)
Re:Yes, you are. (Score:2)
not too pissed off. (Score:5, Informative)
Secondly, if you're already into anime, you can probably find most of the titles they show at the local blockbuster.
Anime has already gone fairly main stream. It's doubtful whether Adult Swim brings in very many new viewers, so I'm not too upset over them, either.
Well... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:not too pissed off. (Score:3, Interesting)
You're sounding like a troll. And anime is going mainstream, but it isn't anywhere near there yet. Until I see sorority girls wearing Sailor Moon T-shirts and Ford trucks with Kogepan pissing on a Chevy symbol, anime isn't mainstream.
If it weren't for Cowboy Bebop, I wouldn't be watching anime. Period. I thought it was all a cross between softcore porn and Transformers-on-steroids-and-crack. But then came Cowboy Bebop, and I got it. Then came Akira and Miyakazi's many works and Outlaw Star and Ghost In The Shell....
CN ain't the be-all end-all, but at least it got me to go into the extensive anime section of Scarecrow Video [scarecrow.com]. Nice to have a world-class video store on the route home from work.
Re:not too pissed off. (Score:2)
I've only been watching Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star, but from what I've read [animenewsnetwork.com], the edits haven't been too bad. Mostly substituting swears and lessening the amount of blood. Yes, I'd rather there weren't any, but I am far more happy at CN for making the effort and exposing me to some great stuff.
Anime has already gone fairly main stream. It's doubtful whether Adult Swim brings in very many new viewers, so I'm not too upset over them, either.
Er, really? Aside from some fluffy kids' fare a la Pokemon, Card Captors and the like, where are you seeing anime besides Cartoon Network? A few rare stateside movie releases (which I have only seen showing at independant and art-house type theatres) doesn't make it mainstream.
If I am overlooking some other mainstream venue for sophisticated contemperary anime, please clue me in; I've love to know about it.
Re:not too pissed off. (Score:2)
I just wish they'd make more Harvey Birdman. It was the only show in the "comedy" block that was worth watching (IMHO), but there's only like 4 episodes, and it dosen't take long for them to loop.
Re:not too pissed off. (Score:2)
Legendary ? (Score:4, Insightful)
Cheapening words (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Legendary ? (Score:5, Interesting)
Gundam is probably as close to legendary as any anime series can be. It radically altered the whole climate for SF anime. Perhaps it would be better to call it seminal or groundbreaking, but it was certainly very important in the development of the genre.
"Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?" (Score:5, Funny)
Re:"Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?" (Score:3, Funny)
Re:"Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?" (Score:5, Insightful)
And -- it sucks! Why do people love this stuff? With the exception of Cowboy Bebop, which has a nice style and tone, I can't for the life of me see the appeal of it.
And a couple of nights ago, DragonballZ turned up on Cartoon Network. And that's even worse!
I'm a Japanophile, taught English there for a while, still love Godzilla, Ultraman and Shonen Knife and still cook Japanese food. But anime? Just not for me, I guess.
Maybe some network will pick up Nelton Club or Gilgamesh...
Re:"Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?" (Score:3, Insightful)
However, some of it is just fantastic. I highly recommend watching Cowboy Bepop with subtitles. Once you get the hang of it, it become pretty seemless. The Cowboy Bebop dubbing is pretty good, but the original voice tones are more suited to the series.
In short, its just like any other genre, most sucks, some is good.
I also recommend Vampire Hunter D and Project A-ko(which is pretty funny, but you need to pay attention to the details.)
Re:"Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?" (Score:5, Insightful)
For good anime watch Cowboy Bebop (space/western/music), Trigun (space/western), Kenshin (samurai/swordfighting), Macross Plus (space/music), Slayers (fantasy/humor), Love Hina (romance), Spirited Away (in theaters now!), or others advocated on
Also, watch shows that are subtitled. I'm no purest (I already said that I watch DBZ!), but (a) it sounds like you already know Japanese, and (b) american voice acting sounds fake. Maybe Japanese voices sound fake to Japanese audiences, but the emotions conveyed by the original voice actors are infinitely more believable than their low-cost dubbing counterparts.
Finally, be willing to accept a little weirdness. Anime has a rich visual lexicon, and it takes a while to get used to the conventions (especially the tendency switch between high- and low-quality drawing styles).
Also, and I say this in all seriousness, a lot of anime contains suggestive humor or situations. Be prepared for panty flashes and that sort of thing, and don't let it ruin the show for you. It sort of goes with the territory. ^_^;
I don't think i like the look of this lineup. (Score:5, Funny)
Anime jumped the shark? (Score:3, Interesting)
Maybe there's not enough viewer support for broadcast anime, as opposed to just buying it off of DVD...
Re:Anime jumped the shark? (Score:2)
And if you mean "Anime in general", or "Anime in the US", then marketplace-wise, the first is in trouble, and the second is still picking up speed. More and more Japanese producers are including projected US sales in their decision to create a show at all.
So, I wonder what this CN annoucement means for their funding of Big O season 2?
Re:Anime jumped the shark? (Score:2, Insightful)
I think Anime has established itself as a viable medium here in the US, and its not going to go away anytime soon, but I also think its audience growth has plateaued and the marketplace is looking for the next "big thing". Just like the SciFi channel is doing by moving to supernatural stories and dropping the "Science" from their station, because for some reason, the geek audience isn't enough...
(Maybe because we're not slaves to advertising...)
Re:Or maybe they use netflix... (Score:2)
Well... (Score:5, Insightful)
I've learned recently that Anime rather annoys me. It's all too cliched these days, what with seeing it every which way you look in some way shape or form.
And then you have the people who know the names of every character from every series and can link every relationship in every way shape or form. And... yeah, that's migrane-inducing after about 10 minutes.
Re:Well... (Score:2)
Re:Well... (Score:2)
and they'll make the first
26 subtitled and then redo
it with the next 26 dubbed.
Although if they just wanted to
play the soundtrack everynight, I'd
be okay with that too. I've even learned
how to sing in Japanese, all because of CB.
Why they would change... (Score:3, Funny)
Because they didn't get the viewers. This means they think there are more people who will watch the new stuff.... and bugger all who would watch the old stuff.
If you want to see it all, go out and buy it...
If that's all you have to complain about... (Score:3, Interesting)
Sorry. (Score:2)
Nope, sorry, not me. I'll be fine as long as they keep airing Cowboy Bebop, which is pretty much the only thing that interests me on Cartoon Network at the moment.
Darn, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
Plus, Futurama will find a new home. It is a very underappreciated show, and I'm glad it can be shown somewhere were it will won't be constantly preempted by sports.
Re:Darn, but... (Score:2)
slashdot is otaku (Score:2)
Dragonball Z (Score:2)
Anime was always underground (Score:4, Insightful)
It's no huge surprise that Cartoon Network is cancelling those shows, as the fanbase in mainstream America simply isn't large enough to support such a small group of Anime fans, as obsessive as they are.
Re:Anime was always underground (Score:2)
IMHO, you are both right and wrong with this assertion. I think the number of anime fans that are interested in the shows that Cartoon Network is showing and the editing that they do is a relatively small number of people. Overall, I'm pretty sure that the actual number of people that consider themselves "Anime Fans" is actually quite large.
Frankly, I haven't watched any anime on Cartoon Network in the last 1 1/2 years. However, I can assure you that does not exclude me from being an "Anime Fan". Instead, I tend to rent stuff from the local anime rental store (yes, I actually live within 2 mi of a store that specializes in renting anime... House Of Anime [houseofanime.com]).
For those that don't have that option, Netflix [netflix.com] also has a very large supply of rentable anime at a very reasonable month membership price, and they seem to be getting larger and larger quantities of it due to it's popularity.
Finally, for those of us who have generally seen most of the good US-available shows or merely want to preview stuff before they bother renting it, USENET (alt.binaries.anime, alt.binaries.multimedia.anime, alt.binaries.multimedia.anime.repost) and winmx [winmx.com] have a large number of digital fansubs that are often within a week of the current Japanese tv schedule. I'm sure Kazaa and the other filesharing programs have a lot too, but winmx seems the most popular among the IRC crowd I hang with. I generally watch stuff that won't be available in any american store within the next year.
So considering all of those competing sources, you start to see why the small number of relatively old anime shows that Cartoon Network shows just don't hold the audience that they seem to expect. On the other hand, if someone started a cable channel that broadcast near-current, English-subtitled anime 24/7, I think that they would find themselves with ratings that would have advertisers queuing up at their door.
Re:Anime was always underground (Score:2, Insightful)
AR
look on the bright side..... (Score:2)
CNX (Score:5, Interesting)
As far as I know, Cowboy Bebop has never been shown in the UK before this channel.
House of Anime... (Score:2)
Cowboy Bebop is great, probably the best dubs there are, but CN's shown them so many times, I know 'em all, and there's no reason for me to set aside time to watch it on a weekend night when I can be out with other anime-watching friends and rented/purchased DVDs.
Inuyasha's a good series in the fansubs I've seen, but the dubs just ruin it for me. Yuu Yuu Hakusho has caught my interest somewhat, but mostly for the jazzy theme music. DBZ is funny, but after you've seen a few episodes, you've seen 'em all.
I'm still saddened by the fact that only 13 eps of Big O were ever made... and that I missed about half of the last season of ReBoot. Grrr.
Oh, well, at least it looks like we're getting another season of Stargate out of Sci Fi....
Re:House of Anime... (Score:2)
Re:House of Anime... (Score:2)
Re:House of Anime... (Score:2)
So what about Space Ghost?!?!?! (Score:2, Insightful)
Home Movies (Score:4, Informative)
~jeff
Another Aritcle (Score:2)
The Cartoon Network will soon expand its "Adult Swim" block of animation for grown-ups (in age, anyway) to five nights a week.
Starting Sunday, Jan. 12, the two-hour block of comedies and Japanese anime will air at 11 p.m. ET Sunday through Thursday. Adult Swim currently airs only on Sundays and Thursdays.
At the same time, "Futurama" will makes its Cartoon Network debut as part of the block. The cable channel recently acquired rights to all 72 episodes of the Emmy-winning series (it returns to FOX Nov. 10), which will air at 11 p.m. Monday-Thursday.
"Since we began Adult Swim, the goal was to build it into an across-the-schedule franchise," says Jim Samples, Cartoon Network's executive vice president and general manager. "Now we have the depth in our Adult Swim programming portfolio to make it happen."
Sunday's lineup will be devoted to comedies, with "The Oblongs" at 11 p.m., "Mission Hill" at 11:30 and "The Ripping Friends" at midnight. The 12:30 a.m. slot will feature a rotation of Cartoon Network originals "Aqua Teen Hunger Force," "Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law," "The Brak Show" and "Sealab 2021."
In addition to "Futurama," the weeknight slate features "Home Movies" at 11:30, "InuYasha" at midnight and "Cowboy Bebop" at 12:30 a.m
The reason Saturday night is going... (Score:5, Insightful)
The purpose of Adult Swim is to help Cartoon Network transition from kid's programming to an over-all entertainment network. The expansion of the Adult Swim franchise should be seen as a good thing, especially seeing that Futurama will be added to the weekly block. I think there's a lot more of us that will appreciate Futurama having a regular home than those who cared about the animes listed above.
I know I'll sure enjoy seeing Futurama every weeknight, and as long as the Sunday block is left alone, I'll be alright. The real issue with the new schedule that I have is whether Space Ghost is still on the Sunday block or not.
Contact email? (Score:5, Insightful)
Not that I'm deluded enough to think that they'll actually care about what I have to say, but the anime geeks at my college were the ones largely responsible for having the campus subscribe to CN, and I have a funny feeling that then the next channel survey comes up, I'm guessing they're going to be rated rather lowly.
And yeah, American cartoons are so much better: Filled with ego-maniacs, stuttering pigs, slurring cats, gender-ambiguous birds, etc., etc. I'm really not a wannabe asian, and saying that anime is a gateway to pedophilia is a little like saying drinking mountain dew is a gateway to cocaine; I do however appreciate a good story ark, and producing shows that are more than degenerate collections of insipid one-liners is something that Americans absolutely suck at.
So anyway, does anyone actually have a contact email address for these guys?
Re:Contact email? (Score:4, Funny)
There goes my viewership. (Score:2)
If they're comming out with Toonami Double-A (Action/Anime) Channel soon, *I'LL GLADLY SUBSCRIBE*. But they're alienating an increasingly large amount of folks who don't get the deal with Ed, Edd, and Eddy, Courage, Johnny Bravo, and a ton of repeats and fillers that we've seen before or can predict the plot down to the exact second.
GAH!
Why should this frustrate anyone? (Score:4, Insightful)
Does it effect the casual fan? No, if you're a casual fan and they stop showing them then it just fades away in your memory. If you really miss it, buy the DVDs or whatever, otherwise just forget it.
The only people I can see this really effecting is the average non-fan whom the anime geeks of the world wish would get wise to anime. The only "frustrating" thing is that anime is no longer as extensively offered to those who don't care for it enough to seek it out.
Just because you LOVE anime, and think anyone with any sense whatsoever SHOULD LOVE anime doesn't mean it's Cartoon Network's duty to expose it to them, and frankly a large segment of western culture will never get into anime, and would much rather watch the Oblongs, Futurama, Undergrads, or whatever. All I'm saying is - Let them.
Re:Why should this frustrate anyone? (Score:3, Interesting)
I hope CN continues to show anime, and not necessarily for the hardcore fan's benefit. There are a lot of people out there who would turn and flee if I showed up with a subbed Utena DVD, but might be willing to watch a dubbed Gundam or DBZ episode on CN. I met one guy at work the other day who told me about going to see anime at his friend's house. He was watching a single episode of a series every time he visited, and was really starting to enjoy it.
The series? Jubei-chan: Secret of the Lovely Eyepatch!
Even though most of my hardcore friends would turn up their noses at the mention of this anime, I was glad that my co-worker was watching anime in any form. If his friend is any true anime fan, he'll keep hunting and searching until he finds the series that will really pique my co-worker's interest and reel him in for good- be it Eva, Escaflowne, Ebichu...whatever!
I think CN's Adult Swim is having a definite impact on viewers, but it's probably too soon to tell. Who knows how many people they're reaching with those awful dubbed episodes of Tenchi and Yu Yu Hakusho?
cartoon network doesn't have many action toons (Score:2)
There are plenty of action oriented cartoons out there from the 70's-today, i'm just curious why they don't show any of them during prime time, but instead show endless repeats of their home brewed comedic cartoons. I would believe that showing old episodes of x-men, transformers, gi joe or he-man would be cheaper than producing new cartoons.
Additionally showing some action toons (or even the simpsons) would be a nice change from a mostly comedic primetime lineup.
Why is this not under the Anime topic? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Why is this not under the Anime topic? (Score:2, Insightful)
Maybe this is the submitters/editors way of spamming Slashdot with their fantasies of a world I don't want part of. Hmm, how do we despamify the Slashdot topics so this doesn't happen. Because "Anime is NOT Television." Everyone repeat that with me 10 times: "Anime is NOT Television."
out.
pardon me while I fall on my sword (Score:2)
other than that I'm not moved about the changes. I only ever got to see adult swim every once in a while and if its good anime, like any good show or movie, I'll get it on DVD
More bad news (Score:2)
AWW man!!!!! (Score:2)
It might not have been great anime, none the less it was a step toward getting great anime some US airtime.(and it was cheap) If nothing else it did make it a little easier to get more good stuff in main stream places. (Suncoast, Blockbuster)
Oh well, guess some things just were never meant to be common-place here
So how did Samurai Jack end? (Score:2)
Oh, who am I kidding, I don't really care.
Can't you discuss this somewhere else? (Score:2)
Oh no! (Score:2)
Not that! Not the third overnight Sundays-with-a-full-moon block of yadda-yadda oddly-Western-looking-character Japanese cartoons! AGGH!
Oh, wait, I have a life.
You, however, may resume panic ... ;)
Woohoo! (Score:2)
Their Sunday lineup is ridiculously good, though. Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Sealab 2021 are some of the funniest stuff on TV (along with The Simpsons, of course). The possibility of seeing these shows, Futurama, and whatever other great stuff Cartoon Network can come up with four nights a week gets me all excited.
I'll just continue to purchase the anime I really want to see on DVD and get the stuff that isn't available on my side of the pond from those glorious fansubbers out there. Yay.
I am upset (Score:2)
Also, some of my friends are in college dorms or someplace where they get free cable with their housing, and normally, they will not go out of their way to pay for anime, but since CN was providing it, they took advantage of the free anime.
Disappointed, yes; Surprised, no. (Score:3, Interesting)
2) The shows they picked could have been better. Specifically, they could have been for adults, and furthermore shouldn't have been edited down to a pre-teen level. Things might have gone rather differently if they had Hellsing or Excel Saga or Hajime no Ippo headlining (provided the dubs don't suck - I don't know).
3) The Inu Yasha dub sucks terribly, for a headlining show. Pilot Candidate sucks, period - I was changing the channel with extreme prejudice when that came on. MS Gundam is interesting from a historical standpoint, but not much else. OS and Tenchi had already been shown way too much already.
4) I wonder how many times they'll re-run Cowboy Bebop before they realize that adults, unlike kids, tend not to watch shows ad infinitum. This is the problem with ALL CN shows, and especially with AS. At the very least, they could run a show all the way through (anime series are almost all ~13 or ~26 episodes long) in a prime time slot once, then switch to a new series, and eventually rerunning it in a less watched time slot for the rest. Of course they best way would be to run it once in a blue moon and make it an event, and show LOTS of series.
5) Anime != Action. Tenchi is not action (nor is Sailor Moon over in Toonami). Anime covers a broad spectrum of genres and is generally marketed to specific target demographics. Grouping shows by genres is bad - it makes people compare. Grouping shows by demographic is good - it ensures people keep watching. No demographic wants to watch for more than 2 hrs, and most will watch for only 1.
6) I can barely stay up 'til one, even on Saturday, and am rarely in the mood to watch 3 hrs of programming at a time. Also, Saturday night happens to be when a very large chunk of the AS demographic has better things to do, like appeasing the girlfriend or going to a LAN party. It's an awful time slot. (For the record, I think a better pattern would be for 1hr per night Su-Th, with different shows targeting different demographics each night, like prime time on the networks but shorter. I.E. adults can just tune in at a certain time and something new for them will be on. Unfortunately late night is hard to program through, with the Midnight Run conflicting, The Daily Show competing, and Bed calling.)
7) Nothing ventured, nothing gained. ASA had little problem attracting the hardcore geek contingent. It might've survived if they tried attracting other people too.
Just reread the article... (Score:2)
More importantly... This doesn't necessarily mean the anime is gone! OS and MS Gundam was originally Toonami, and Yuu Yuu Hakushou was originally intended for it. Perhaps they're just moving back. And the high-ratin' moneymakin' Toonami ain't going nowhere. If I'm not mistaken (and I can't tell if I am since the article is
In summary, there's no solid info that adult anime is doomed on Cartoon Network, and plenty of reason to be optimistic about the expansion of Adult Swim itself.
Not A Problem (Score:2)
Cartoon Network only ever airs bad dubs, even on their Adult Swim blocks. This really won't be a problem for many anime fans, and I suspect that few people are brought in by the horrendous quality of the American voice actors. Note that this says nothing about anime running during the main time, like the Big O sequel that Cartoon Network is financing.
As for anime peaking, I suggest you start looking at places other than US TV channels, who have notoriously bad taste in the first place. TokyoPop constantly has trouble printing enough of the manga series it owns the rights to to meet demand. Anime distributors often license series before they're finished their Japanese run, usually based on the popularity of the fansubs.
My guess... (Score:2)
Aww man (Score:3, Insightful)
Seriously, everything that has been cut was nearing its natural end of life; Gundam is the only one that hasn't been on that long. Also, try to remember that Cartoon Network is going from showing 3 hours of Adult Swim anime to 5. It's pretty likely that Cowboy Bebop will be replaced by another new acquision soon, given the fact that the 26 episodes will be repeating every 5 weeks on the new shedule.
Shutdown, No surprise. (Score:2)
Yeah, Adult Swim anime isn't going anywhere... Wonderfully self fullfilling prophesy these cancellations are too.
A disturbing trend (Score:2)
Folks, try being a little more tolerant of those of us who do care. I don't use Macs, but when a Mac story comes up, my response isn't "I don't use a Mac, why should it matter." Same with half of the topics that show up here. But I do show some courtesy to the people who are interested, and politely step away from it, and find a discussion that does matter to me instead. So just a little reciprocity please. After all, News for Nerds means more than just Tech News.
But there are enough of us who do care, not just because of the individual programming change, but because of the continuing degredation of the network and changing it into KidsWB2. Oh, and the man at the helm: Jamie Kellner. You know, the guy who thinks that it's illegal to take a dump during commercials. Hell, if that's not enough to enrage the collective, we really are screwed.
Passing thought: "Baby Looney Tunes"? Oh, my eyes, my eyes!
if you couldn't get to the article... (Score:4, Funny)
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What? Anime on Adult Swim? (Score:5, Funny)
They Need to Refine What they were showing. (Score:4, Insightful)
The big problem that I saw with it was that CN appeared to take the easiest and safest way out when it came to the shows they selected. They looked for shows that were pretty much dubbed already and threw them into a sat. night block. MGS has been translated (badly) for years now. Yu Yu Hakusho, although translated pretty well, is nowhere near as harsh as the actual show Was.
I would like to see Trigun, Bezerk, Slayers, Lodoss War or Hellsing here, but I know it would never happen and what would happen to it if it did. For Example Trigun has too many guns so you risk some kid blowing his head off cause he thinks he's Vash (Or as I like to refer to it, SKS - Stupid Kid Syndrome). Hellsing Would make the Christian Coailation go Insane, Would be edited to death because of all the Violence, blood and raw gore, and again back to SKS.
Like Cowboy Bebop? Good. There's a boatload of anime that is similar to it. maybe not with the same amount of charm or style, but identical when it comes to the action, gunfighting and the like. The American Viewer Seems to like the "Gunfighting, Die-Hard/Dirty Harry like, action packed, one man killing Spree" genre so give it to them instead of stuff the're not interested in at this time.
Oh. And finally, I know that almost all Recent anime anymore is either a CardCaptor Anime, (YuGiOh, Fighting Foodons, Cardcaptors, ETC) or a Pocket Monster Anime (Transformers Armada, Pokemon, Digimon, ETC). Unfortunatly this stuff is coming over here because it puts SKS to a good use when it comes to getting the Kid To spend their Parents money. Don't Judge anime based on these. There is a Lot of stuff out there that will appeal to just about anyone. You just have to go looking for it.
there's good anime, and there's bad anime (Score:3, Insightful)
anybody who posts "well, the only one i liked was cowboy bebop" has their head in the right place, but inu yasha will change your mind-- unless, of course, it's dubbed so terribly that all the characters are somehow dull and obnoxious at the same time.
as for those who say they "don't like" anime... to somebody who knows what they're talking about, that's like saying "i don't like fruit"... you've obviously only tried the bad ones.
Cartoon Network Anime (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe they could add a Saturday Action block that was subtitled. Adults can read, right?
Re:Cartoon Network Anime (Score:4, Informative)
I'd be interested in hearing a little more detail about what it bothering you. I mean, I know there in a certain scene that there is blood there. Just because on CN you can't see the blood doesn't bother me too much.
Re:Cartoon Network Anime (Score:5, Interesting)
Secondly, I'm annoyed when I don't get to see the artists original intent, irregardless of how small a modification that might be. It doesn't hurt that naked anime girls are part of the original intent, admittedly, but it's amazing how a few subtle (and not so subtle) edits and translations can completely change the meaning of any given work of art.
Case in point: Sailor Moon. Not originally the kids show it is here.
Re:Cartoon Network Anime (Score:3, Informative)
I watched the first episode of Outlaw Star, and decided not to watch the series more when I found out that the guys I thought were robots weren't, and they cut the part where they bleed and the main character comments that they're not robots, and changed "killed" to "destroyed". When something meaningful in the story changes, it's too big an edit for me. I'll try and watch the DVDs some day.
However, this is apparently because it was originally edited for the Toonami block rather than Adult Swim. I'm happily watching Cowboy Bebop as its edits seem generally fairly insignificant.
Re:Cartoon Network Anime (Score:3, Informative)
A nearly complete list of every single change Cartoon Network has ever made to an anime.
And you thought YOU had too much time on your hands
Re:Cartoon Network Anime (Score:4, Informative)
Editing out all the sex kinda hurt the playa thing Gene's supposed to have, but they have enough hints to get the point across. Like Gene wandering off in the middle of the night with a wad of cash to have fun followed by coming home at 5AM. You should be able to read between the lines there. I was surprised they left in the rich guy being gay, but that was already implied. They did make it a little less obvious, but at least they didn't try and totally cut it.
The episode thing's a little funny.
This is kinda SPOILERISH, I guess, but not really that bad, really.
The episode in question is near the end, taking place on the hot springs planet, where the freakish naked bear thing customs officials steal your clothes. Yeah. Guess why they didn't show it. The problem is, this is where Gene gets the special caster shells that get really important in the last couple episodes, along with an explaination of where the shells come from. So, on TV, you miss out on major exposition, and Gene suddenly has bullets that create black holes.
Heh. Those customs officials are hilarious. And disturbing. Deeply, deeply disturbing.
Re:Cartoon Network Anime (Score:2, Funny)
- [...] but their overediting and bad dub jobs are notorious among hardcore fans.
The use of "hardcore" in that sentence is redundant. It's like saying "smart geek" or "annoying teenybopper", yah know?it reminds you of... (Score:2)
Re:Home Movies (Score:2)
Also done in SquiggleVision (tm)
Re:FUTURAMA (Score:2)
'Cause some of it's good? Oh sorry, I can't answer cause I'm not a nerd? nm
Re:Access 97?! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Good (Score:2)
01 - Radio Free
02 - Happy Cake
03 - I, Robot
04 - Chickmate
05 - Predator
06 - Lost in Time (I said it was dodgeball time, bitch)
07 - Little Orphan Angry
08 - Waking Quinn
09 - All That Jazz
10 - Murphy Murph and the Feng Shui Bunch
11 - In the Closet
12 - Stimutacs
13 - Swimming in Oblivion
14 - Der Dieb (aka Martian Law)
i love bebop (Score:2)
anyway, back on topic. you can own the dvds by purchasing piecemeal off half.com [half.com]. bebop is dark and shadowy, with an odd conglomeration of characters that you can't help but love. there's a lot of the story you aren't told (some of which i still don't know) and you have to derive from the shows. this really draws you into the series. anyone know what a datadog is?
see you, space cowboy
Re:I used to have cable. I still might.. (Score:3, Informative)
'Shin Seiki' translates as 'new century.' 'Evangelion' is an adaptation of a German word meaning 'gospel.' Therefore, the Japanese title would translate as 'Gospel for a New Century' or 'New Century Gospel.' Gainex themselves, by the way, chose the title 'Neon Genesis: Evangelion' for the English title, which is why the average hardcore anime fan doesn't scream about it. It makes sense, if you think about it; 'Neon' invokes images of modernity, technology, cold and sterile science. 'Genesis,' aside from meaning 'beginning,' of course, evokes religious overtones to the average North American. 'Evangelion' is close enough to English words such as 'evangelism' to evoke similar images, yet odd enough to feel somehow different, or other. Kind of evocative, when you put it all together.
You'll notice all sorts of German-isms throughout the series, if you know what you're looking for.
Re:ratings? (Score:4, Insightful)
Cartoon Network needs to spin the anime to a new Anime Network. They could run pokecrap and hamstertron and such during the day, then more action and adult type stuff later at night.
Re:ratings? (Score:3, Informative)