Win2k Cheaper than Linux 1279
An anonymous reader writes "According to this story, Win2k costs an average of 11%-22% total cost of enterprise. The study showed that the initial investment takes up less than 5% of the total cost. Linux did beat Win2k in one category, Web-serving." Man did this thing get submitted a lot.
Well duh (Score:1, Funny)
Willy Gates has made Windows so easy anybody can use it.
Profit from ignorance!
IN SOVIET RUSSIA (Score:2, Funny)
Absolutely True (Score:5, Funny)
Of course its cheaper.... (Score:5, Funny)
Comment (Score:5, Funny)
"It just sounds strange that this article claims a five years study using Windows 2000. As of today, this study should have began by Dec. 1997 ! That means getting Windows 2000 two years in advance. "
So they must using a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess) to come up with it TCO figures.
Re:Absolutely True (Score:5, Funny)
+ 10 Karma! (Score:5, Funny)
On another front, you can get well-balanced news stories here [theonion.com].
Upgrade Smupgrade. (Score:2, Funny)
No surprise (Score:5, Funny)
Propagander at the time of war... (Score:2, Funny)
No way! My AMIGA won the best TCO everywhere! (Score:3, Funny)
The problem with Linux (Score:5, Funny)
I think the new MS licensing agreement was actually a RPG system that fell into the wrong hands.
For a good headache... [microsoft.com]
And in the next 4 days (Score:3, Funny)
We shall see this story again, but with a new title...
Taking bets now who will post the duplicate...
1) Hermos,
2) Michael
3) Taco
4) Taco's Wife (pertending to be Taco)
Re:Well duh (Score:2, Funny)
Maybe if you're moving fast enough you'd be able to fit into a spot smaller than the car, so fast cars are a definite plus when it comes to parking.
Better Register Story (Score:4, Funny)
Woman jump starts car with cyber-infant [theregister.co.uk].
Re:a company i worked for called MS once... (Score:5, Funny)
Well, when factoring support into TCO, don forget to include this study. [bmug.org]
Yup, Sure Guys (Score:5, Funny)
The site www.crn.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on unknown.
What is the TCO of replacing that smoldering hunk in the corner, guys?
Maybe they're right! (Score:3, Funny)
To install Linux I need the following:
- buy a new computer
- order a Cable net connection to download the CD
- buy a CD burner to burn the CD
With Windows I just need to:
- dial 1-800-555-DELL (free)
- give credit card details
- receive delivery of new PC with Windows installed
So really buying Windows saves me money as I don't need the net connection or the burner!
Ok ok, so that was bad. But it's only 8:21 and I'm half asleep.
Re:Well duh (Score:1, Funny)
Something about this post disturbs me.
I say it again... (Score:3, Funny)
Windows Fileservers with lower TCO than Linux???? (Score:5, Funny)
Well for nearly 11 years I have been in the fileserver world. I touched lots of file servers. From old ancient LANtastic and Netware 2.15, going through most Novell flavours up to 5.0. For 11 years I worked with, administered, tweaked and crunched so many different file servers that I don't remember all of them. Lots of Novell flavours, OS/2, NFS on Solaris and Linux. I worked also with Windows "solutions", from WfW up to Windows2000 Server. From all these I sincerly prefer Netware. Netware is far better and manageable than any other file server system. Naturally as Novell did it specially for file servers. However there is a problem with Novell. Its prices are prohibitive for many customers. But, if your work highly depends in file server services, surely the TCO is far lower than everyone else.
Among all the systems I used, the most crappy, cumbersome, crash-proned, time consuming and nervestraining was M$ crap. It came up into hanging a whole local network, just because M$ thought it could play at will with TCP/IP stack. But there are tons of stories about the crap. Let's just pick the most recent.
In April this year, I met a medium-sized Compaq server in one highly important organisation. Compaq's dealer sweeted a lot to have that lovely machine there. And sweeted even more to have it working. The thing worked, naturally, on Windows2000 Server. I was asked to tweak the crap so that several problems were gone. And the problems were: workstations loosing connection with the server, Apps frequently hanging up, file transfer working slowly (in a 100mbits network it looked much like 10mbits), and a episodic events with the machine crashing.
After some administration we came up to the conclusion that the machine was going into sure doom. The DNS was crashing every day, WINS and SMB were giving wrong packets into the network, the file system was getting wrong data, user accounts were not freed, CPU never lowered behind 30% and lots of many other problems. Besides we found that, everyday, 30 minutes of workday was lost on backing up data (it was a damn important server) as no one could work while backup was going on.
Well, we created a backup server, curiously on Linux, but with the objective to reinstall Windows2000 on the main server. We lost ONE week trying to do it. As we discovered, the original installer had also huge problems with that machine. The machine was simply unable to work stable with Windows2000.
Considering the pros and cons I decided to use my old weapon The Penguin Dancing Samba, against the huge oposition of many people. However the situation was Hell in Flames and there should be a fast solution. So the bosses agreed the change.
Well I had a whole day of headaches to install it on Compaq's RAID. Also I had lots of trouble creating a secure, stable and automatised environment. In the whole, it took me 2-3 weeks to do all the work.
Today, nearly half-year later, the admin approaches the server 1-2 times in the week. Most work is log checking and some rare tweaks in the configuration (mostly adding users), the machine carries several early warning scripts in case something goes wrong. Backup is completely automatic. With the exception of one single user (some mystic problem), everyone works without hangups, crashes or lost connections. The system lives perfectly in its 100mbps network and the problem of slow connections is forgotten. Besides, the average load of this machine is just 3% and it now carries also a MySQL server that is frequently used and which, in the future, may substitute many file server tasks.
Is this the the higher TCO they talk about?
WIn2k Bugcheck Reboot Feature Saves Time (Score:1, Funny)
It is so much more inexpensive and handy than a linux box that doesn't crash and restart. Restarting sometimes three to four times.
FROM the Event Log:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000050 (0xa127dc34, 0x00000000, 0xbff071cb, 0x00000002). Microsoft Windows 2000 [v15.2195]. A dump was saved in: C:\WINNT\Minidump\Mini120202-01.dmp.
P.S. Internet Explorer does it too. Crashing and sending a notice to Microsoft.
Technology...is sooo sexy!
dangerous stories (Score:3, Funny)
"Animal Protein Healthier than Vegetable Protein" as posted on vegetarians.net
"Peaceful Dialog Goes Farther than Violent Conflict" as posted on alqaeda.gov
"Censorship Attempts Actually Lead to Greater Mass Appeal of Target Sites" as posted on scientology.org
"My Uncle was an Monkey" as posted on creationism.com
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Re:Well duh (Score:1, Funny)
The IDC study was sponsored by Microsoft (Score:4, Funny)