Columbia Japan Music On Demand, On CD-R 135
jwlidtnet writes "It seems as if Columbia Records Japan has instituted a series of 'albums on demand' -- written on CDR media (warning: page in Japanese). Granted, most of the items currently offered are Japanese in origin, but this is indicative of a record label that realizes how to embrace *some* aspect of the technological revolution! Various industry types have been espousing this method for years as an antidote to artificial concepts of media supply and demand (e.g. that Big Record Label cannot support small acts as it must press x copies of the album), and as Columbia seems to be offering mostly old catalogue items, this is an encouraging solution to the problem of the control of out-of-print recordings. One final note: of course, a system like this is only as useful as its retailer support, and it appears as if both Tower Records Japan and HMV Japan carry these CDR releases."
reportage (Score:3, Insightful)
Not that I disagree with the submitter's bias, and he/she is very up-front about it.
Re:reportage (Score:1)
yeah, right. does anybody really believe that there's such a thing as impartial or opinion-free press? I have yet to see one
Re:reportage (Score:2)
I know I select who to trust by their track record, and then only trust them to the degree warranted. I try, anyway; I get hoodwinked now and then like everyone else.
Who do I trust? Why
Re:reportage (Score:1)
The costs of publishing in large volume make it prohibitive to rely on small-scale advertising and subscription income. Just have a look at the major newspapers in the United States (e.g. New York Times, Washinton Post, USA Today). None of them is impartial or unbiased in their reporting.
Re:reportage (Score:2)
The cause of problems IMHO tend to be old-fashioned ones like laziness, pride, and incompetence, not the exotic like corruption.
It helps a lot to have access to multiple sources of news, including int'l, and to take it all with a bit of caution. I love the NYT but have a little list in my head of areas where they are less than perfect. The Wen Ho Lee case may be one of the most tragic, and that was largely driven by one reporter who the editors may have hesitated to challenge.
Re:reportage (Score:2)
When you finish your first draft, look at it and find the thing in it you love most. The obscure fact that you are sure everybody should know, the analysis that proves your brilliance once and for all, or, even more importantly, proves X public figure a fool/genius, the telling anecdote/fact. Take that thing out and kill it dead.
It's a great (though humbling) way to reduce bias. Now if only more of our journalists had such unforgiving editors.
Rustin
Re:reportage (Score:1)
Yes, they would kill them all.
I like the old expression that an editor is someone who separates the wheat from the chaff, and prints the chaff. (And I'm someone who has done more editing than writing.)
Glad to hear you have such a constructive relationship. Remind your editor, however, that when you are famous you will crush him/her like a grape. Keeps them on their toes.
Looking for bias... (Score:2)
Let's examine the submission, shall we?
--Well, as far as embracing/rejecting technology, record labels HAVE disagreed with a lot of technological developments in the past and have not changed their business/technical model drastically in 10 years. That's a fact. This is radically different from the previous method of distribution. That's a fact.
Various industry types have been espousing this method for years as an antidote to artificial concepts of media supply and demand (e.g. that Big Record Label cannot support small acts as it must press x copies of the album),
--I can't vouch for the veracity of this statement, but it seems like it isn't an opinion, but a fact.
and as Columbia seems to be offering mostly old catalogue items, this is an encouraging solution to the problem of the control of out-of-print recordings.
--I would say that this is very slightly an opinion, but I don't think you could find anyone that thinks it's NOT an encouraging solution to the control of out-of-print recordings. Maybe if you were a business that specialized in rare records. Anyway, there is NOT bias obvious in this text either.
One final note: of course, a system like this is only as useful as its retailer support, and it appears as if both Tower Records Japan and HMV Japan carry these CDR releases."
--This is also a fact.
So, show me the bias. I am not stating this as an end-all be-all, but you got modded up by claiming there's bias in the submission, but I don't see any. And if you were referring to the "from the slow-march-of-a-clue dept." part, then that's just asinine. That part of the site is nearly ALWAYS used to express an opinion about the story.
Re:Looking for bias... (Score:2)
The opinion, more than bias, comes through to me clearly, enough so that I started laughing. Mostly in "embracing *some* aspect of the technological revolution!" tranlsates as "Finally the Luddites get a glimmer of a clue!" (Otherwise why emphasize "some" of end with an exclamation point.)
The rest is more subtle, but it's there. I'm curious what "various industry types" means; it suggests some flippancy about the (recording?) industry, and it's the submitter not the industry types who uses the deprecatory term "Big Record Label." Having read it, don't you think you could exactly state the writer personal opinion? This differs from merely setting out the merits and demerits of a new scheme.
I don't have the slightest problem with this because it's right there on the surface (to my ear) and I don't really suspect the writer of concealing or misrepresenting information. (Even stating facts, one can spin a story by not stating other facts -- half-truths -- of exaggerating our certainty in certain facts.) The tone of the story is someone's who's really pleased with this turn of events after much dismal news.
There, how's that for an overwought explanation? What can i say, I enjoy reading between the lines, and I'm just thinking out loud. And I may be totally worng about the submitter's intentions, but I doubt it.
Oh yeah, as for "from the slow-march-of-a-clue dept" I assume that's an editorial enhancement. But now that I look at it -- I routinely ignore these quips -- it certainly sounds like the editor saw the story similarly to me.
Re:Looking for bias... (Score:1)
Re:reportage (Score:5, Funny)
Be expecting that in x(?) years? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Be expecting that in x(?) years? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Be expecting that in x(?) years? (Score:5, Funny)
It's still very top-secret-hush-hush, so don't go telling all your friends.
Who's been waiting? (Score:2)
The big dumb publishers have finally gotten off their buts to do something, but do we really want it? The storyline, (e.g. that Big Record Label cannot support small acts as it must press x copies of the album), reminds me of my local cable operator. They would tell me, "We don't support that browser/OS/Whatever_non_M$," and I'd say, "Fine, my browser/OS/whatever_non_M$ works well without your support, what I need is your broken DNS/whatever fixed." Services those folks had were pathetic compared to running your own and in the end, that's what I'd do. Like the record companies, they tried to prevent me from running said sevices for myself - I don't give either them my money anymore.
Re: Technology (Score:3, Insightful)
What about jewel covers, CD art, etc? (Score:5, Interesting)
--Manufactured Sex Gateway [tilegarden.com]
Re:What about jewel covers, CD art, etc? (Score:5, Informative)
"The instruction booklet has been scanned from their original printings and reproduced."
However..
"3. Regarding the Instruction Booklets
Q: Are the designs the same from the original?
A: The cover, liner notes, labels, etc. have been newly designed for the R-Ban series, respecting the original design."
It's much easier for me.... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:It's much easier for me.... (Score:1, Insightful)
If this was supposed to be anything close to revolutionary, they should provide DVD discs with ogg-vorbis or mp3-files.
How about an "All music made in 2002"-compilation?
Selling CDRs is 10years too late. This is NOT being progressive.
\\hornet
Re:It's much easier for me.... (Score:1)
Re:It's much easier for me.... (Score:1)
-Erwos
Been there done that. (Score:5, Informative)
Soundchoice has been offering custom CDG karaoke cd's for about 1.5 years now. Go online, select your tracks, plop in a credit card number and a magical CD comes to your house from this magical guy named the fed ex man.
Re:Been there done that. (Score:1, Funny)
10 Song Minimum
What wonderful value!
Re:Been there done that. (Score:3, Informative)
This would be cool... (Score:4, Insightful)
RickTheWizKid
Re:This would be cool... (Score:1)
Plus you would have to pay S&H charges... and I can trust them (BMG 1c/12 CDs anyone?) to make these unreasonable.
$1 (Score:2)
Under capitalism, the "optimum" price is what the market will bear, barring unprofitability. There may be multiple such prices -- raising the price will increase margin but decrease volume, and so on. Certain prices get people unusually excited, like 99. The market is more than just you, it's the aggregate of every potential customer.
Anyway
But ultimately, it's
I wonder what that price is? How about a flat rate to fill a disk however you choose? Americans in particular don't like being nickel-and-dimed. How about different prices for different classes of music, like platinum, gold, silver, and, ah, bronze (oldies)? What about a subscription basis - a disk a month, and if you're not sure what you want they can recommend compilations tied thematically?
Interesting puzzle, isn't it? And one I'll bet you, for all this copy-protection and DMCA hooey, the labels are talking about it right now behind closed doors. I think a lot of regular customers would like this, having all the fun of designing an album, then getting it delivered to your door. No computer, no hassles. Sure, maybe an extra $5.
One company did this ... gone now (Score:5, Interesting)
Can't connect to their site now. And a look at their whois record [easywhois.com] seems to indicate that they were bought out by EMusic [emusic.com], which kinda sucks.
IIRC, CDuctive charged $0.99 per track, or $1.99 for the 10-minute-plus songs. Over all, my CDs cost around $20 and were full of goodness by folks like DJ Food, 9 Lazy 9, Coldcut, LTJ Sound Machine and others (they had several Ninja Tune artists, I believe).
Anyway
Re:One company did this ... gone now (Score:1)
Becuase these stores do not have to carry the inventory, the price should be lower.
Re:One company did this ... gone now (Score:2)
So, you're paying the same price, but getting a much better product.
You are right, however, about stores not needing to carry inventory
(They'd also probably offer songs from their back catalog at a lower price, or the latest hits at a slightly higher price. I can see the price of a song varying depending on factors.)
I would gladly pay $1 for a full-quality version of a song, rather than fire up Kazaa and try and find the lower-quality MP3 rip.
Re:One company did this ... gone now (Score:1)
Now CDs (both stamped and burnable) are lot cheaper.
Look at all the CDs in a record store. If you buy one of those CDs, the odds are the artists will not get a cent! If they do get a piece of the action it will be #2 at the most.
Under the present system, we are getting ripped off. I want to see a way where the artists can get paid, the record stores can still exist and we who buy CDs are not getting ripped off.
Right now we are getting ripped off. It is time for some new business models that use some new technology to bring us lower prices.
Re:$1 (Score:2)
Funny you should mention the cherry-picking effect, though. You're saying that the prices SHOULD offset the produced music that did NOT sell? The music that is not sold should NOT be produced! A car manufacturer that produces cars that are not sold, can not expect to raise the price of the better cars to offset the losses? Why should RIAA? Oh, wait, it's a monopoly, so it can do that...
Re:$1 (Score:1)
Funny you should mention the cherry-picking effect, though. You're saying that the prices SHOULD offset the produced music that did NOT sell? The music that is not sold should NOT be produced!
This is how the record insustry has always worked, up until recently. The label signs 100 artists, most of whom sell a little, 10 of which sell a lot. The vast profits form the 10 top sellers cover the costs of keeping the other 90 around, which slowly and steadily sell over time. In the end, everybody wins.
However, today the model has changed. Labels only care about the 5% that are megasellers, dropping everyone else after one non-platinum album. They're no longer interested in maintaining a back-catalog, just in the top-10 hits. This may be a Good Thing from a pure-capitalism-theoretical-economics point of view, but it's not a viable model for providing a product in the real world. This, and the ~17 dollar selling price for a CD, is why record sales are dropping, not rampant file sharing.
A car manufacturer that produces cars that are not sold, can not expect to raise the price of the better cars to offset the losses? Why should RIAA?
Yeah, that's what all companies do - raise prices to cover losses (of course, the difference is that it's a lot cheaper to make a CD and keep it sitting around the warehouse than to make and keep a car that doesn't sell).
Re:$1 (Score:2)
Also, my essential argument was that it's not a Q of what the price should be, but of what it will be. That's up to the market, and I'm sure they'll be happy to lose the people who think the price is too high if they make more at a higher price with others. Capitalism.
As for not producing bad sellers -- wouldn't clairvoyance be wonderful! But they'd probably get too conservative if they had to do it that way and bury us in tripe. Look how daring TV is.
No labor needed (Score:2)
Re:No labor needed (Score:2)
Anyway I pay more for a Coke from a vending machine that I do the store. And my bank charges me to get money from an ATM, but not a teller.
Re:This would be cool... (Score:1)
Re:This would be cool... (Score:1)
Re:Babel fish translation (Score:2)
What do I know, perhaps the Japanese actually talk this way? I only studied boring European languages (3 of them if English counts). Perhaps they think English-speakers have weird syntax.
Send them an English inquiry
Re:Babel fish translation (Score:1)
Columbia is part of Sony. (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Columbia is part of Sony. (Score:2)
"Will R-Ban require special players? R-Ban is designed for playback with ordinary CD players. It may be impossible to play them on some car stereos, DVD players, etc. that our customers may have."
Re:Columbia is part of Sony. (Score:1)
Re:Columbia is part of Sony. (Score:4, Informative)
"Will R-Ban require special players? R-Ban is designed for playback with ordinary CD players. It may be impossible to play them on some car stereos, DVD players, etc. that our customers may have."
Actually, I think that refers to the fact that some car stereos and DVD players (not to mention portable players) won't read CDR discs. Though this is more true about older players than current ones, there are certainly going to be players out there that can't read these discs.
Now, if it had said that they couldn't be played in computers, for example, we'd have to worry more about copy "protection."
Re:Columbia is part of Sony. (Score:1)
Collectors left in the dust? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Nth printing (Score:2)
For example, I collect vinyl, and much of the vinyl I own there are very very limited copies of. Because of this they are worth something.
A vinyl record from the nth printing of an album will most likely still be worth something because it's from the nth printing. Example from comics: Even though MAD Magazine has reprinted its first 18 or so issues a few years ago, original copies of the first few issues still fetch a wad of dough [verylowsodium.com].
I wonder how labels will go about structuring things to limit them for collectors.
Is it in a monopolist's interest to limit the production of a good at any level other than where marginal revenue equals marginal cost? No. That's the price that maximizes the bottom line.
Re:Nth printing (Score:1)
Re:Collectors left in the dust? (Score:1)
That said, the "Special Collectors Editions" of albums and DVDs that keep appearing like lint seem to make a shitload of money for the industry, so perhaps they're on this as well.
I'm confused (Score:2)
Why is it necessary to burn a copy of an album on demand? Are the customers requesting out-of-print albums? What would they be buying that the stores wouldn't have in stock, or be able to order a regular pressed copy?
That said, this is pretty cool. There are CDs that I bought years ago and scratched into unplayability that I would still listen to, but can't find another copy to buy.
Re:I'm confused (Score:2)
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer:
Looking through the current catalog of about ~250 songs reveals that there are barely any albums that have been released in the past five years. For those who are into JPop, there's no CDs from Hamasaki Ayumi, Utada Hikaru, et al. (Yes, I'm aware they're not from the Columbia label)
Not many Japanese people in their young 20s would probably purchase these CD-Rs because they like the artist (most probably don't even know the artists that are listed).
The difference between Japan and other places (Score:5, Interesting)
Once a group becomes popular that their singles are flying off the shelf, they usually get signed to an album deal and their first album is a best-of based on their single releases.
This CD-R thing is nothing more than a logical outgrowth of that mentality and business style.
Why the U.S. and the U.K. have such ass-backwards album-first styles makes no sense to those of us in more forward thinking countries like Japan.
Re:The difference between Japan and other places (Score:2)
> It could have something to do with CDs costing up
> to 3000yen in Japan (and occasionally more) (25-28
> dollars depending on the yen rate).
3000 yen is $24.35 based on today's currency rate and Apple's handy little OS X calculator.
Which I guess explains why I pay $30-$60 for imported Japanese Mothra and Godzilla soundtracks (the $60 being the two disk Mothra 3 soundtrack). Of course I have many hours of fun translating the leaflet, so it is worth it to me. I would never pay that kind of money for an ordinary CD of pop music, let alone for a CD-R. Toho doesn't use RIAA labels, that I can determine, and they do get some of the proceeds, probably more than when I buy the US version of their movies.
General: "Increase voltage"
Officer 1: "Turn power up"
Engineer: "Captain, we're registering too much voltage for safety now."
Officer 2: "Increase voltage"
Voltage sound effects, shot of Godzilla struggling, cable burns through, substation fries, Godzilla is free.
Scene from American version "Godzilla vs. Mothra" (1964) Simitar DVD
Godzilla and Mothra: boldly going where no starship captain had gone before.
Re:The difference between Japan and other places (Score:1)
Re:The difference between Japan and other places (Score:1)
There was a link I had months ago talking about this, but it's long gone. My own experience, though, was that around 1996 or so Best Buy and local CD stores were SWAMPED with CD singles of all kinds, Best Buy especially used to sell them for less than $5, and I bought (and still own) a ton of them, and often own the albums too. Go into a Best Buy or local CD shop now, though, and you'll find little else beyond the full releases.
This is NOT because CD singles weren't selling, it is because they WERE selling...
sheephead
Re:The difference between Japan and other places (Score:1)
Translation (Score:5, Informative)
The about/FAQ page [r-ban.com] of the site:
Product Specification
- This product contains audio reproduced from the original CD source to a CD-R, and as a result, the quality remains identical.
- The labels on the product are newly designed for the R-Ban series.
- The instruction manuals (covers, liner notes, etc) have been newly designed, based on scanned copies of the originals.
- The instruction manuals, as a result of the scanning process, may be difficult to read due to errors in font size, printing, etc.
Warnings
[usual warnings, same as CD]
- It is recommended that you use a regular CD Player when playing the R-Ban. Certain models of car stereos and DVD-players may have trouble playing back the media.
(Copy protection? Meh..)
FAQ
1. Regarding purchase
Q: Can I purchase R-Bans of other titles not available in the catalog?
A: Not at this time.
Q: Where can I purchase R-Bans?
A: Through specialty Internet merchants and music stores that support the R-Ban series.
Q: How long will it take to receive the media after ordering?
A: They are created after the order, so it may take up to 2-3 weeks, in addition to other delays.
2. Regarding sound quality
Q: Is there any difference from the original CD?
A: Since the R-Bans are duplicated from the original CD source, there is no difference.
3. Regarding the instruction manual
Q: Are the designs the same from the original?
A: The covers, liner notes, labels, etc. have been newly designed for the R-Ban series, respecting the original design.
4. Regarding playback
Q: Is special equipment needed for playback?
A: It is recommended that you use a regular CD Player when playing the R-Ban. Certain models of car stereos and DVD-players may have trouble playing back the media.
Q: Are there any precautions for playback?
[usual CD warnings]
Re:Translation (Score:1)
Umm... (Score:1)
What's wrong with that? Most of my music is Japanese. NA music sucks.
Re:Umm... (Score:3)
Fucking geeks think everything from Japan is cool, when in fact Japanese consumer/popular culture is just an amped-up version of the worst aspects of *American* consumer/popular culture.
But whatevery trips your trigger.
Re:Umm... (Score:2, Offtopic)
The funny thing is that Japanese people will wear clothing with English phrases and not know what they mean -- one girl wore a t-shirt that said, and I'm not kidding, "Miss Urine Tester." Worth a look.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Umm... (Score:3, Funny)
I don't own any articles of clothing or anything else with any Kanji on it. If I do decide to buy something with Kanji on it, I'll consult someone who can read it (i.e. a native Japanese speaker). I don't want to walk around with a shirt that says "I like to have sex with animals" in Japanese and not know it.
Re:Umm... (Score:1)
Sorry. Now back to the original thread, already in progress.
Re:Umm... (Score:1)
& most japanese pop is excruciating (in my opinion.it causes me pain anyway).
fantastic marketing though.& the cd-single personal stereos are very cute...
How would this benefit hollywood without drm? (Score:4, Funny)
Go ask Hilary Rosen or Jack Valentini and they will tell you that hollywood will go bankrupt thanks to the freedom to code whatever we want! Someone please think about our children.
Custom CDs? (Score:5, Funny)
I already have plenty of coasters, though.
I rotated my CDs into coaster duty a while back.
The 3.5" floppies were moved from coaster duty to table-stabilization.
The 5.25" floppies were moved from table stabilization to roof patch.
The audio data cassettes went from roof patch to birdcage lining.
Thus, I was finally able to burn all those guano-soaked punchcards.
Looking ahead, I'm interested in any information on the permeability of MP3's.
You call this new? (Score:3, Interesting)
A friend of mine bought his copy of Dragon Warrior (known there as Dragon Quest) on a floppy disk. The game-pak based game save had not yet been invented, and so you had to write down a bunch of wierd heiroglyphic symbols in order to resume from where you left off....
Didn't Pepsi do this? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Didn't Pepsi do this? (Score:2, Interesting)
Eventually, I do think the time will come when anything more than 5-10 years old that you want on CD will be recorded right there in the store, and only new CDs will be pressed, with all the accompanying liner notes and art. It will become just too cost-prohibitive to have backlogs of CDs sitting in a warehouse waiting to be shipped.
It sure would be much easier to have the tracks sitting on a CD-R burning machine and just picking individual songs from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s that you like being put on a CD. Even at $.50 - $.75 a song, the burned CDs would fly off the shelves. There would still be people downloading off the Internet, but I think most people, if given the choice, would rather get tracks they know are complete and high quality, already on a CD. Of course, the record companies would find a way to screw it up by adding encryption, or some such other crap to each CD.
Maybe someday they will learn; just not today.
Re:Didn't Pepsi do this? (Score:1)
I'm not sure about that. It depends on the cost model you use. If you treat every one of those units as a fully priced CD then yes, its a lot of money you have sitting on the shelf. But if you think of every one as a $0.25 piece of plastic and paper that has no value until someone buys it (which is what they really are), then you can afford to warehouse a heck of a lot more of them.
And there's no wastage as older music is fairly non-perishable. Not like a warehouse full of beasty boy or JLO CDs - that would make a rotten smell real fast.
I think the record companies will fight like wolves for quite a while longer to prevent digital distribution starting up. Once they are no longer seen as delivering "units" people will start asking just what it is that they do do.
Re:Didn't Pepsi do this? (Score:1)
I worked with Japanese developers 9 years ago (Score:4, Informative)
Anyway I guess, as we all know, the technology of using digital comms to transfer music is not new. It's just the marketeers haven't quite got the guts to deploy it.
We want to know more about CmdrTaco's E-Cups! (Score:3, Funny)
Its tough for the little guys... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:Its tough for the little guys... (Score:1)
warning: page in Japanese ? (Score:1, Interesting)
your health?
How about "note: page in Japanese"
next time?
Virgin Records did this years ago. (Score:4, Interesting)
I would also like to see more traditional bands promoting downloads on the net. By traditional I mean guitars, drums. Maybe even a singer. Not techno,trance mixes from stolen samples and loops. Most of us can do that. I dabbled and dee-jayed but never considered myself a musician. Give me some high quality acoustic guitar playing, clean vocals. Just cause it is on the computer dont need to sound like it was made on one.
Puto
Re:Virgin Records did this years ago. (Score:1)
This has been done before... (Score:2)
There is precedent for this (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:There is precedent for this (Score:1)
Columbia Japan Music On Demand... (Score:2, Funny)
kinda exactly what i was thinking few months ago.. (Score:1)
But the problem was for me getting the licenses to burn & sell music & get enough burners to supply the demand that would have been, as my budget was only few hundred euros to try... so i went for something
else, i had allready nearly completely, i bought a server (damn i got it cheap, even tho it is a duron 1.1ghz, i got the whole thing with 256mb ram & 80gb hd for total price of ~240euros nearly everything has warranty still on).
I just wish thehre were somebody selling demoscene music on cdr's also =D
And this would expand to europe etc... if the prices are low enough, like 10euros per cd + few euros for shipping & handling there will be very high demand i think.... you've could order customized software cds including patches, demos etc... for sometime now and it's finally time to get music also =D
Durability? (Score:1)
My biggest issue with this would be the lifespan of the media. CD-Rs are supposed to maintain their integrity for what, ten years? A pressed disc (they predict) will last for at least fifty. But I suppose by the time another decade and a half has passed we'll have a new dominant medium and have to repeat this process once again.
Ohhh...creative (Score:1)
(yes yes I know... possibly flamebait or troll...It just annoys me to see companies spending all there effort and creativity in the legal system rather then putting it to good use).
Another been there done that... (Score:1)
As a pre-emptive response... (Score:1)
(warning: page in Japanese)
Columbia Japan (Score:2, Insightful)
Columbia is notorious in Japan for being out of touch with modern music and really bad at promotion for decades. Someone new must be at the helm.
I also have to wonder how much money the artist will see. I have family who have hundreds of songs recorded with Columbia, mostly in the older catalogs. I will be very curious to hear if any money at all ever reaches them.
My father in law has around seven hundred recordings with Columbia Japan. If anyone will hear from them I expect him to.
My expectations are low however, I know Columbia was selling some tapes from the older catalog with my mother in law's works without ever contacting her.
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