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Roogle: RSS Search Engine 211

Posted by CmdrTaco
miladus writes "Roogle is a new RSS Search Engine. Let us hope it does not get in trouble because of its name." Or its horrible logo. The site needs a little work, but it seems like a good enough idea. update their obviously infringing logo was removed.
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Roogle: RSS Search Engine

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  • Nice work :( (Score:4, Funny)

    by j2demelo ( 63411 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:00PM (#5471523)
    I get a Javascript error as soon as I get there. Yeah, Roogle's going places.

  • A good idea ? (Score:2, Informative)

    by MoonFog ( 586818 )
    "The site needs a little work, but it seems like a good enough idea."
    A good idea ? To rip off Google ? From the site :
    This page is not sponsored by Google, affiliated with Google and will probably get me in trouble.

  • Yuk (Score:4, Insightful)

    by captainclever ( 568610 ) <rj@audioscrobblCHEETAHer.com minus cat> on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:03PM (#5471534) Homepage
    Sorry, but just getting the Google logo and crudely crossing out the G to replace with an R is a bit lame. Not impressed. They have blatently copied the Google look and feel, something which is probably illegal, and certainly annoying.

    • Google look & feel (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Knacklappen ( 526643 ) <knacklappen@gmx.net> on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:14PM (#5471592) Journal
      They have blatently copied the Google look and feel

      This is certainly true, but have you been to Altavista [altavista.com] lately? Yes, the king of annoying pop-up-pop-under-blinking-shit-distract-me-in-any- way-possible-steal-my-bandwidth-animated-gifs-and- flash-crap has adopted another look & fell. And guess whom they got "inspired" of... And then we have all the other wannabe-Google-copycats out there. Well, let's see it from the positive side: Clean is beautiful, once again. Good for us users.

      • Google all the way ! (Score:4, Funny)

        by forged ( 206127 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:35PM (#5471705) Homepage Journal
        but have you been to Altavista lately?

        No ! Did I miss anything......?

      • Yeah, but this isn't just "spartan"...they have a very similar name, *exactly* the same colors, the same lalyout...

        I'd have to say that the "Roogle" thing is pretty much a case where confusion could be caused. There's a lot of complaining about IP on Slashdot, but this is a case where it should be helpful. The Roogle people should really change things.
        • The "Roogle" people themselves note that the name is temporary, right on the site. While they are clearly combining RSS and Google, which just happens to be descriptive of what they are and do, they also know that they need their own name.

          One might also wonder how many "looks and feels" are going to be allowed to be propriatary for a single input box, a single button and a bit of black text on a white background.

          Down that road lies madness.

          KFG

    • Under "who we are": "The final name is clearly very unlikely to be Roogle. I'm in the process of "de-rooglizing" the look and feel presently."

  • Hoho (Score:2, Funny)

    by bumby ( 589283 )
    now, that's almost as funny as the google mirror: http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/

  • Farter? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Acidic_Diarrhea ( 641390 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:03PM (#5471540) Homepage Journal
    Uh? [fuzzygroup.com]...why is the most frequently searched term "farter?"

    What kind of sicko has been testing this engine?

    • or the next most popular search item:

      "poopsex vagina donkey acidic_diarrhea"

      methinks the creator of this page has more problems than a probable lawsuit from google
    • Considering your name is in the #3 query, I would put forward a stab in the dark and say YOU, YOU SICK BASTARD!!! :P
    • Farter is one of the more normal ones

      1223 microsoft
      771 farter
      635 undulating_nigger
      564 lindows
      540 poopsex vagina donkey acidic_diarrhea
      454 godfuckingdamnit
      444 linux
      406 sex
      398 Where can I buy I mini-moocow at low cost?
      326 roogle

      My theory is that a bunch of people want to have sex with a mini-moocow that has acidic_diarrhea

  • This is a great idea... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Motherfucking Shit ( 636021 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:03PM (#5471541) Journal
    ...but the name and logo absolutely need to be changed. Google has gone after sites using their likeness in the past (not that they have much choice, they've got to do this otherwise they may lose protection).

    Roogle as it stands is actually pretty functional. It's also extremely fast, especially considering it just got posted to Slashdot. FYI: "privacy [fuzzygroup.com]" is another term which yields interesting results and is not listed among their suggestions. Oddly enough, the first match is entitled "Google's Privacy Problems."
    • You've got to be kidding. One of the pages (it's /.ed now or I would give you the link) says they have about 2000 RSS entries sitting in their database.

      Functional? I didn't see any highlighting. Did you try any basic boolean searches? Any clustering of results? 2000 entries is not enough to even test for that.
    • Well, they already changed their logo...still looks kinda funny though ('logo needed!') =p
    • It was only a temporary logo, and seems only to be a temporary name. You can't expect the same people who come up with a working RSS search engine to simultaneously come up with a good name for it. For that matter, somebody entirely different already owns roogle.com.

  • How about RSS domain searches? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by rjamestaylor ( 117847 ) <rjamestaylor@gmail.com> on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:04PM (#5471542) Journal
    I'd like to search not the articles available on asundry Blogs but to see what domains of coverage RSS feeds propose to cover. What I really want is an aggregator of medical industry news, but the concept applies to any domain of information.
    • A different tack, but maybe an RDF search engine is the ticket. But where to get the RDF? Will people who create the metadata be willing to share it? Will enough people create the metadata in the first place?

  • On how long it is before Google slaps a trademark infringement on them and the site is taken down....

    Anyone fancy a bet?

  • Why would one intentially seek to raise the hackles of the Google Lawyers? If one has a new search engine that has different algorithms or some unique features that will help it become a standard in the industry, then why rip off the masthead logo of the current indusrty leader and BEG for the cease and desist letter to arrive in the morning mail?

    Can they be mounting a serious effort or is it April Fool's Day already?
    • Well it will certainly get them a lot of publicity, and probably at least another /. article or two along the lines of "Google forces Roogle name and/or logo change". So even if they're forced to change their identity later, they still get far more publicity than if they simply launched with a more innocuous name in the first place.
    • ...work sundays? guess we'll find out. ;)


    • Why would one intentially seek to raise the hackles of the Google Lawyers?


      That's an easy one to answer. Roogle is based on RSS, which comes from the XMLRPC 'designer', Dave Winer [userland.com]. Dave loves to draw attention to himself like a whore at a convention in Vegas... He *knows* he'll get shut down, but what he's *hoping* for is that Google (or someone) will pick up on his Roogle idea.
      • That's an easy one to answer. Roogle is based on RSS, which comes from the XMLRPC 'designer', Dave Winer [userland.com]. Dave loves to draw attention to himself like a whore at a convention in Vegas... He *knows* he'll get shut down, but what he's *hoping* for is that Google (or someone) will pick up on his Roogle idea.


        The other option is that he may have filed a patten on it, and is useing this as a way to insure google or another search engine doesn't pick up on his idea without paying him for it. A demand letter from google proves they know about him and the service.

    • Google lawyers, is that an oxymoron?

      I always thought that Google was a panacea place staffed by altruistic ex dot com millionaires searching for The Truth.

      Oh well, another trusted institution bites the dust.

  • Perhaps they want Google to buy them. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Schnapple ( 262314 ) <tomkiddNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:07PM (#5471561) Homepage
    Perhaps they want Google to buy them. It's not a horrible idea - they come up with a good idea, they implement it, they even have a Google-ish name, so Google buys it off of them.

    Of course this is the way technology has headed with Microsoft (people do stuff just to have MS buy it), and it's killing innovation.

    And of course Google would probably do something like this in-house, with their own people and coding practices. I think the best these guys could hope for is one of those "polite" cease-and-desist letters.

  • Or it's horrible logo. The site needs a little work, but it seems like a good enough idea.

    This [slashdot.org] CmdrTaco Journal entry, just a couple weeks ago, disagrees.

  • from the dept.
    What department? I guess I'm the only one who reads those things. Between that and the extremely short story it seems taco put as much thought into this as, well Roogle.
    How ironic.
  • 379 farter 346 microsoft 192 lindows 155 sex -- lol 141 roogle 135 joi 82 linux 80 tablet 74 kasia 73 Scoble

  • Probably trying to get Google's attention (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Midnight Thunder ( 17205 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:12PM (#5471587) Homepage Journal
    Judging by the fact that they have made a CC of the Google look and logo (with the the G crossed-out), I am sure that they are wanting to get Google's attention, and everyone else's while they are at it. They are probably hoping that enough people will make enough noise that Google will encorporate what they feel is a great tool into Google.

    Admittedly it is not the best approach, but if it ends up working, well why not?
    • That idea does sound reasonable. I think it would be trivial for Google to incorporate an RSS searcher into their bag of tricks. All they would have to do is add another boolean behind the scenes that indicates whether a page is RSS, and then give a front end to that boolean, and they are done. Both of those actions seem simple to me. The end result would be that people could search for other websites to syndicate.

  • I want my flying car... (Score:5, Funny)

    by IIRCAFAIKIANAL ( 572786 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:16PM (#5471606) Journal
    Astro: Rey Reorge! There's a rew search rengine ralled Roogle!

    George: Everyone already knows about Google, Astro.

    Astro: Not Roogle, ROOGLE!

    George: Shut up you stupid mutt.

  • Google is pretty cool but... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by quantaman ( 517394 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:16PM (#5471608)
    I will be amazed if these guys don't get taken down by Google. I mean part of the idea of trademark is to avoid brandname confusion and it took me a few seconds to make sure that this site wasn't affiliated with google. The hacked google logo and the very similar interface didn't help either. True the same arguments might be made for Windows and Lindows, prehaps the reason I never got those confused is that I'm very aware that is something M$ would never do. Either way I except these guys to be getting some strong words from google.
    • Hehe, I'm surprised he didn't link his CV from that page... That looks like a desperate attempt to get a job at Google to me... :-)

      I mean, with the recent moves in the direction of blogs at Google, they might just be thinking that "if we make an RSS search engine, we may get a good job at Google". But then, Google may not notice... But now they will... :-) It's pretty clever, actually.

      It's going to be funny to see that cease&desist...

      I think it is also very different from the Lindows issue, given that windows is a rather common word, Google isn't...

    • google.com may be cool, but what good are they if they aren't even accessible? Google Down? [webmasterworld.com]

      ok. i'll admit, i was quite astonished to see google returning HTTP 500 status codes.
  • I don't think this site has any such Grand Ambition as taking on Google (or even selling out to them). The logo isn't the only thing kinda on the 1/2-ass side. How many Blogs are indexed? 594 as of this posting (Who we Are tab on roogle). Why this guy isn't using publicly (freely!) available info on published, syndicated blog content is anyone's guess. Mine is that they ain't too serious. "farter" is still holding up above "Microsoft" as the number one search term. Go "farter!"

  • These guys [fuzzygroup.com] are meant to be seasoned pros in product management, project managemement and marketing, but they don't see a problem with what they have done??

    If I was a client of theirs, I would be rather worried.

    Now, if they do have a half a clue, isn't this a great way to get some eyeballs?

  • I mean not everyone actually plans for what they do to go somewhere. Maybe they were just tinkerin around a bit and thought it'd be funny to use Google's layout for a temp setup?
  • This one here [koogle.net] can actually rely on an existing word "koogle". And besides that, it's kosher!

    Koogle.net was promoted by the newsletter of the Israeli Embassy in Germany. When I last checked, it had changed its layout to alienize it from google (slightly).

    Have fun,
    Mathias
    • Yeah, and what about XGoogle [xgoogle.com], which does IRC channel searches? I've always wondered how they've gotten away with that name. The site is different, but they're definitely building off of Google's success. Interesting how the word "Google" is really becoming a synonym for "search".
  • Can't really find much with this... so it must be jsut a joke.
  • "This page is not sponsored by Google, affiliated with Google and will probably get me in trouble."

    Atleast he's aware he's going to get the anal raping of the century by Google.
  • Know the google mirror for this? :-)

    I quit.

  • /. -ed (Score:2, Redundant)

    by wideBlueSkies ( 618979 )
    What good is a search engine if you can't get to it?

    If they can be slashdotted this easily, well... they need to think a little harder about their setup.
  • A new kind of /. effect?

  • Looks legal to me (Score:2, Interesting)

    by cperciva ( 102828 )
    IANAL, but that site rather screams "parody" to me.
    • It's not really a parody. They're providing a real service, akin to Google's service, and it's not done to poke fun at Google, but instead competes with Google. There's really nothing about this that could be considered a parody...
      • As long as he's not making a profit, he can make it as usful as he wants. And while you're there, perhaps you should look up the dictionary deffinition aswell. Maybe you have a very narrow deffinition of what a parody is.
  • In other news... Google announces a new patent: Wherein Google shows that they pioneered a technology using funny-sounding nonsense words as a company name, website, and a verb. Seriously, corporations can be pretty heavy-handed and seem to forget that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Unfortunately, in the technology world imitation is also the most likely to get you a threatening letter.
    • That's because when you become aware of a trademark infringement, if you don't defend against it you lose your trademark. I'm sure Google doesn't really want to go after these sites, but to make sure that Google remains their trademark and not public domain, they're required to order these types of sites to cease and desist.
  • I'm glad the Royal Statistical Society [rss.org.uk] has a decent seach engine at last!
  • Is about to stomp a mudhole in Roogle's butt.

    "In the end, there can only be one."
  • Ive noticed that Goodle.com have registered Gooogle.com and also setup ww.google.com sub domain to catch miss types.. now with roogle on the table... its gonna be pot luck soon what search engine you hit, no problem as long as there all good ;)
  • Scooby: Qruick, Shraggy! Search on Roogle for "Amusement Park Owner"

    Shaggy: Like, as soon as I finish this sandwich, Scooby.
  • Get famous, find a job.

    Obviously they know that Google's going to come gunning for them, it's the entire point of the site. They don't care if Roogle lives or dies, really. They just wanted to show off their skills, and do so in a way that is sure to garner public attention.

    Well mission accomplished. The odds of some of these guys finding employement as a direct result of this stunt are very good.
    • Since the sites doesn't appear to actually do *anything*, what kind of skills are they showing off? That they can make a web page with broken Javascript with a textbox in a form that once you click "submit" returns a page with random links? Somehow, I don't see how this is likely to garner anybody a paid job.
  • subj.
    --- www.google.com ping statistics ---
    1000 packets transmitted, 838 packets received, 16% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 92.917/94.189/101.547/1.128 ms

  • it's "its"! (Score:4, Informative)

    by violagal ( 657772 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @01:50PM (#5471792)
    C'mon, people- this was done properly in the original message, then messed up one line down. 'it's' means 'it is'. the possesive version, such as 'its horrible logo' or 'its name' is spelled 'its'. Just learn the darned language!

  • Name Changed Already!!! (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    the logo has changed already pmsl it now says:

    New Logo Needed !

    (the search engine briefly known as 'roogle')

    lololol

  • Oh God I've Been Slashdotted

    Ack! Foo! Run in circles, scream and shout!

    Perhaps we won't have to worry about what google will do to them, perhaps the sheer force of a /.ing will do the trick

  • Within 10 mnutes of going to roogle, they've changed their logo to 'New Logo Needed! (the search engine breify known as roogle' and moving you cursor over the image syas 'Roogle, an RSS Search engine for Blogs'They've also added a link to roogle blog and a new note 'NOTE
    This was done as a research prototype to gauge interest. Clearly there is interest. Now that I know that, it'll get a lot better. The search index is by no means comprehensive and the search logic is being fine tuned. True full text search will be available either later today or tomorrow.'
    Truely Bizarre
    • Methinks he's already gotten the C&D letter. Not only the aforementioned removal of his Goggle-esque logo, but his non-Google disclaimer:
      This page is not sponsored by Google, affiliated with Google and will probably get me in trouble.

      At least he's got a sense of humor about it. Now let's see if that helps any. Doubtful.
  • OK, I've looked and I've looked, but this thing isn't going to go anywhere if nobody knows what the hell it is, or what it's suposed to do. I see that it's got something vaguely to do with XML, but other than that, I can't figure out what the hell it's searching, how, or what it's returning. This is one of the most useless web sites that I've visited in a while. Thanks, /.!
  • Google itself seems to feel the /. effect.

  • Rip-off (Score:3, Insightful)

    by MBraynard ( 653724 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @02:13PM (#5471908) Journal
    Why should we hope their name doesn't get them in trouble? Google did a lot of work to develop a stellar reputation and have done a lot of other projects with that Xoogles, like Froogle, etc. And they did this all starting from scratch, not trying to jump on anyone else's work.

    And some clowns suddenly appear and try to co-op google's reputation and cash in on the high name recognition they deserve? I am not sure if it's illegal, but that doesn't make it OK; what it makes it is pathetic.

  • What's the big deal? (Score:5, Informative)

    by cyranoVR ( 518628 ) <{moc.liamg} {ta} {RVonaryc}> on Sunday March 09, 2003 @02:29PM (#5471989) Homepage Journal
    You can already search rss feeds on google [google.com].

    Plus there are tons of news aggregators that already exist and have huge indicies of rss sources [disobey.com].

    Conclusion: /. editors get a kick out giving google reason to sue another small company with poor judgement! Either that or they like /.ing small sites.

    In other words:

    1. Create web site - which doesn't do anything useful but has a name that rips off Google.
    2. ???
    3. Lawsuit!

  • burn karma burn (Score:5, Informative)

    by Ravagin ( 100668 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @03:47PM (#5472353)

    Hate to be anal, but slashdot editors, please....

    it
    's horrible logo

    Emphasis mine. Come on, it's [angryflower.com] not that hard.

    In other news, I'm glad they apparently decided not to use "Roogle"... something about that word disturbs me deeply on a primal level.

  • Thank you for the millions of feedback emails.

    We have added "fix pr0n dewd" to our list of things to look into. :)

    --K.

  • Google will attack Roogle, they attacked GEWGLE (Score:3, Insightful)

    by pheph ( 234655 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @04:44PM (#5472566) Homepage
    Google has been very forceful and a little overzealous with their trademark attacks and threats. After over two years of owning Gewgle.com [gewgle.com] they are just now sending legally threatening letters [gewgle.com].

    Is Google about to have an IPO or something? It seems like they have changed so much in the last couple months...

  • I Love RSS (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jimmyCarter ( 56088 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @06:14PM (#5472981) Journal
    Seriously.. here's a standard that's evolved quickly and without a bunch of bitching between various factions (at least not that I'm aware of).

    Yet, you have these enormous industry groups still haggling over the structure of XML docs tailored to their sector. Purchase orders, precription medication.. you name it - the pace of adoption has been terrible.

  • Roogle is a temporary name (Score:5, Informative)

    by PineHall ( 206441 ) on Sunday March 09, 2003 @06:15PM (#5472989)
    Looking way down on their blog you see that Roolge is a temporary name. There is no motive for a Google buyout and they realize the name will not last. Check it out: blog entry [fuzzygroup.com]
  • I'm sorry, which department is this from?

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