Matrix Reloads to $42.5 Million Opening 815
Dante Alighieri writes "Box Office Mojo,
the Washington Post, E!, and others reports that The Matrix Reloaded opened with a record of $42.5 million in ticket sales."
I saw it yesterday and have a variety of opinions on it, but the short review is that it isn't the original, but it's pretty damn cool, and I'm first in line for Revolution.
See what happens... (Score:5, Funny)
heheh
Coincidence? Yeah, probably.
This post... TO BE CONCLUDED
Re:See what happens... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:See what happens... (Score:2)
Problem in the article: First, the movie is probably set 700 years or so in the future. (based on the conversation at the end of the movie with the guy with the white beard... close as I can get w/out spoilers). Not ACE 2199. Or alternatly, the movie is set in early 21st century (the Matrix's 'present'.
Other than that, it's nice to see a hacking sequence that doesn't make me cringe, and it's nice to see it noticed. Maybe that way, more movie
Re:See what happens... (Score:4, Funny)
Maybe the server is hungry. Hell, I could go for a few chocolate chip cookies right about now myself.
So what you are saying... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So what you are saying... (Score:5, Funny)
[ . . . ]is that the evil computers are running Unix?!
Well, if a computer has to decide which is the most reliable, secure operating system to work with, would you expect to see Windows NT or Mac? What you should be saying is, "choosy computers chose Unix."
Re:So what you are saying... (Score:4, Funny)
The matrix, a computer-simulated reality, is simulating computers running Unix with unpatched ssh.
Re:Heh (Score:3, Funny)
uh... when was the last time a hot chick with super powers dropped a motorcycle on your server room?
Re:Heh (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, about a month ago. I was going to ask for her url, but didn't have the guts since I'm a geek.
the password (spoilers) (Score:5, Interesting)
Neo 5.0 took the other door and reset the Matrix and created Zion 6.0 populated by people Neo 5.0's choosing (which might include Trinity). So, the initial inhabitants of Zion 6.0, taught by Neo 5.0, frees the minds of the people who question the reality of Matrix 6.0 thereby saving the programs (people/minds) from deletion by the agents.
The actions of Neo 5.0 can be attributed to Neo 5.0's want to save Zion 5.0's inhabitants from deletion. The saving of Zion 5.0 is deemed as a noble cause by the inhabitants of Zion for the reason of the survival of self.
Since Zion 6.0 faced imminent destruction and the password of Zion5 allows Neo 6.0 to meet the architect and possibly "save" Zion 6.0 and since the prior versions of the Matrix probably have the same event timelines (Oracle->Keymaster->Architect), a programming loop, if you will, it would seem to me that the actions of Zion 6.0 rebels would also be similar to prior versions of Zion rebels (this goes along with the thought that Zion is a Matrix and the inhabitants, Morpheus, Trinity, et al, are programs), that the password is a hint that it's all a loop and that the Zion rebels are in fact programs. I expect that Revolutions is where Neo becomes enlightened of the fact that the "real world" is not real at all.
More Matrix Numerology... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:the password (spoilers) (Score:4, Informative)
Re:the password (spoilers) (Score:3, Funny)
You know what they say: A One that isn't cold is scarcely a One at all.
-If
Re:See what happens... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:See what happens... (Score:3, Insightful)
A room full of coppertops hacks nothing. That is, of course, if you have them ALL under control. And as anyone in security knows, you never do.
Re:Amazing!! (Score:5, Interesting)
Any ideas who might be the happy hacker that led the Wachowski brothers in the right path?
Most likely some guy from their special effects company -- they have more than enough programmers there, and considering that they used mostly FreeBSD for the first movie, it's likely that a lot of Unix programmers worked on this one, too. It's even possible that directors just asked for a realistic-looking screen with some exploit, and whoever made it, chosen nmap and then-just-published ssh bug.
action uber alles (Score:5, Interesting)
it sounds like they decided to drop the latter and concentrate on the former. too bad, but maybe they are just doing what they are good at.
I found
[pvponline.com]
Scott Kurtz's review very interesting.
Re:action uber alles (Score:5, Interesting)
Imho 'Reloaded' did more head-messing than the first movie.
Why they tossed it to the side (Score:5, Insightful)
Reloaded spent 95% of the time asking and answer precisely nothing. When Neo got to the Architect, suddenly there was an enormous amount to think about-- but it was dumped on you so quickly that you didn't have time to absorb it, or really mull the implications. Then you were running again, and then it was over.
The point is, anyone can come up with plot twists. Good moviemakers also have to keep you interested.
messing with head? -- SPOILER ALERT (Score:5, Interesting)
Hmm, you didn't think that the whole architect guy mentioning several other "saviours" wasn't messing with Neo? Or the Oracle for that matter? This issue of choice messed with him, just as much as the issue of reality messed with him in the first one.
Now, I was seriously messed with right when he was given choices, but I was also messed with later when I contemplated what is being said: "You're not here to make a choice, you've already made it, you're here to find out why you made that choice." Wow. So life isn't making choices, but discovering who we are and why we do what we do. Maybe you don't agree with it, but it is something to think about, and to, in your terms, "mess with our heads."
Re:messing with head? -- SPOILER ALERT (Score:5, Interesting)
The last half is when things got cool and felt like a sequel to the first one.
Granted, much of these structure problems may make more sense when Revolutions is released, since they were treated as one big movie split in two. The movie was good, but I missed the goth-noir feel of the first one, and I missed the real sense of danger. Only near the end did I feel that.
Violence attracts crowds (spoiler) don't mod up (Score:5, Insightful)
So since this is a spoiler thread, do you think all we have seen so far has been inside the matrix? Instead of having 5 "rebirths" of "the one", the same Neo has had to go through the same story over and over again. We are told that everyone has to make a choice to accept the Matrix, at a certain level. Are the machines trying to crush Neo's hope and get him to accept the Matrix as reality by giving him false hope, over and over again? Was the Matrix fully "reloaded" this time around? I see a new Matrix game coming out that has the Matrix "reloaded" instead of you dying.
This movie has left me much more puzzled than the first one . .
what i'd like to see... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:messing with head? -- SPOILER ALERT (Score:3, Insightful)
Is it just me or has everyone missed the fact NEO messed with the supposedly 'real' world at the end ? They are still in the Matrix. There is more than one. Zion is a Matrix, one built with different rules, a different purpose. It serves the needs of the phophecy. The question is if NEO can break the cycle.
Re:messing with head? -- SPOILER ALERT (Score:3, Interesting)
There are several theories going around, the most common being a failsafe matrix like Zion.
A friend of mine noticed that Agent Smith is like a replicating virus now, and when he enters Bane's "real world" mind, he is cutting his hands into bloody lines. When he is stopped from killing Neo, he shakes his hand. My friend theorized that somehow Neo got infected by that blood.
However inplausible, there is obviously a connection between Smith and Neo in this movie. Neo sensed him in
Re:messing with head? -- SPOILER ALERT (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, if pop-culture epic stories are supposed to summarize some glaring aspect of society as it exists at that time, as they all do, then The Matrix is pointing out to future generations our focus on just asking "Why?"
Dante's The Divine Commedy encouraged not simply faith, but blind faith -- a quest for understanding God's righteousness without understanding God's justice. The Wachowskis' The Matrix, on the other hand, encourages faith in self alone -- a quest for only provable truth and a healthy, skeptical mind to question that which can not be objectively understood.
The societies of classic literature such as Dante's epic poem were built on solid foundations -- there is God's truth and no other; any violation earns damnation. Thus, The Matrix also highlights our growing secularism or even atheism.
I'm going around my ass to get to this, but the point is simple: morality is as subjective as belief in God. The Wachowskis probably like "teaching" people this version of toleration, as well as their version of responsibility: "I can only show you the door; you're the one who has to walk through it."
Anyway, sorry for rambling. I like this stuff.
anyone else think... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:2)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:5, Interesting)
That, and the matrix vision cum shot, were the two most bizarre things. I could never imagine either of them being in the first movie. Heck, throw in Morpheus' speech. I squirmed when the camera zoomed around as he talked about "shaking this cave of earth and steel." Cheesy.
Re:anyone else think... (Score:2)
Too bad that they didn't film it better, so it didn't look like a bad rave mixed with leftover Planet of the Apes set knockoffs.
Re:anyone else think... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:3, Insightful)
It's not a 'matrix-in-a-matrix', it's that Zion and the recurrence of The One are just as integral to the stability of the matrix as the power pods themselves. It's an outlet for the 1% of humans that don't accept the illusion; the ones who must have their power of choice. But Zion is a very real threat, so the machines have to periodically sweep it clean to keep them from actually overrunning the place. What the Archicet and the Source were supposed to get out of Neo, what the 'code that h
Hypothesis: SPOILER (Score:3, Interesting)
So, in essence, the "Inner Matrix: (the 1999 world in the movie) is there to breed "The One", who caries "the code" to hack the "Outer Matrix" so that the machines can e
Re:anyone else think... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:2)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:2)
Not just men. I talk to plenty of women who enjoyed the nude Keanu Reeves.
Re:anyone else think... (Score:5, Interesting)
I think I got the reasoning behind the big dance, but the directors didn't explain it well enough, so it came off seeming like "let's put in a rave scene to attract the younger kids".
If you had a bunch of humans who just came out of a big, cold evil machine; I could easily see a religion forming around celebrating your human nature: Machines are cold, logical and without feeling. You've been living a lie your whole life, but you are free today. You are a animal, and have all these wonderful carnal instincts so live it up and celebrate your basic nature now!
You might be dead in 72 hours, so give in to the moment and get dirty and sweaty and go make out with your neighbor.
Gnostic reference.. (Score:2)
WARNING: Plot Spoiler
WARNING: Plot Spoiler
It's the gnostic appreciation of life and the senses. I found it moving, sensual and erotic. Notice that the machines were willing to even make bombs that are machines. And, when Neo finally finds the machine he has to talk to, everything is just about aborations in the system. It cannot make the jump to the idea that perhaps there is something beyond logic and fact, an appreciation for life is one of t(R7
Re:anyone else think... (Score:2)
Re:anyone else think... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:anyone else think... *SPOILER* (Score:2, Insightful)
Taking into consideration, it makes the death of all of those people at the end more real.
It is much easier to forget about the deaths of those you have never seen. This helps to lend credence to the fact that the number of dead was quite staggering.
Re:anyone else think... (Score:2)
The movie isn't about philosophy or hacking, martial arts or firearm savvy. It's about man overcoming. It's about the unknown regions of human behavior. That scene not only accentuated that, it beautified the entire notion.
For once, try thinking of a wanton show of human skin to be an example of the beauty in human behavior. It may help your thinking in many walks of life.
Yeah, lots of dopes who didnt get the film at all. (Score:3, Interesting)
In real life, were we not concerned about making a living or feeding children, what would we do all day? It would not be much different than what we saw in that scene, if you thought it might all end shortly.
All I know is, if I ever get the sense that I might be dead within 24 hour
Re:Yeah, lots of dopes who didnt get the film at a (Score:3, Funny)
So rape is now a celebration of the human spirit? You sick fuck.
Re:anyone else think... (Score:3, Funny)
Ah, I suspect you missed the point. I, like many others, watched the scene turn into a rave -boring after about fifteen seconds. Once I realized they were going to play the entire dance track however, it was the perfect opportunity to deal with the cause/effect of a couple pints before the movie.... LOTR was not near as forward thinking.
Re:anyone else think... (Score:4, Interesting)
Simply stated, the orgy scene should have focused much more only on Neo and Trinity, and it should have been about three minutes shorter. Still, I'd guess that the Wachowskis' goal was to show the primal nature of Zion's inhabitants, and, well, mission accomplished. I just don't think they needed four-and-a-half minutes to do it. (Indeed, the fact that they gathered in a palace of rock and cheered at Morpheus, their faithful "leader" [demagogue], said enough to me about their culture.
Andy, Larry? Feel free to explain yourselves. I'm certain that the Slashdot crowd would love your input...
top movies (Score:3, Informative)
Perhaps you should watch the following, any of which are better than those five:
A Clockwork Orange
Apocalypse Now
The Manchurian Candidate
Citizen Kane
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
I'd personally add a bunch more (Taxi Driver, Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge On the River Kwai, Ben-Hur, Full Metal Jacket, Dr. Strangelove, Mulholland Drive, etc.) but I think that's enough for now.
Re:anyone else think... (Score:3, Funny)
I know! Let's watch a cheap-ass motivational speech by someone who, up until this point, we would consider a little too calm and philosophical to give one! Afterwards, we can have a big sex orgy for no reason!
Re:anyone else think... (Score:3, Funny)
You haven't had sex yet, have you?
really... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:really... (Score:4, Informative)
Wednesday *was* counted...
Re:really... (Score:2)
blah (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:blah (Score:5, Funny)
Everyone knows that Agent Smith is Neo's father and that Trinity is his long-lost twin sister.
I can't wait for Revenge of the^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HMatrix Revolutions.
Re:blah (Score:4, Funny)
And Morpeus is his mother! Sorry for the spoiler.
Re:blah (Score:4, Funny)
Neo: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
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Yeah, you thought that Luke and Leia were in trouble...
After seeing this movie, Neo and Trinity are REALLY in trouble...
Re:blah (Score:3, Funny)
But boy howdy their kids'll be able to treat us to some damn fine banjo picking!
On to the 3rd movie (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:On to the 3rd movie (Score:2)
Re:On to the 3rd movie (Score:3, Funny)
We will.
=)
Re:On to the 3rd movie (Score:2)
There's a new Matrix movie? (Score:5, Funny)
I got robbed! [minor spoilers] (Score:2, Funny)
I saw Matrix last night, but it seems that the silly folks at the theater lost the last 5-15 minutes of the movie!
One second, we were watching Neo and the other dude on the table, and then all of a sudden the movie abruptly said "To be continued", and went straight switched to the credits!
Where's the conclusion? I'm out here hanging in the wind! Half the audience was booing...
Argggg!
[/minor spoilers , but I think it's fair to warn people about the ending to this movie so they're not dis
Re:I got robbed! [minor spoilers] (Score:2)
A good counterexample is Empire Strikes Back. Sure, it set up Jedi, but it definately had an ending (which, IMO, stands as one of the all-time great endings in movie history). It's too bad more films don't follow that paradigm.
Re:I got robbed! [minor spoilers] (Score:3, Insightful)
Where's the conclusion? I'm out here hanging in the wind! Half the audience was booing...
** WARNING! SPOILERS! WARNING! SPOILERS! **
That's known as a "blatant cliffhanger"... and I have to agree it really sucks that they do that, any movie should wrap things up and start a new part of the plot in the next movie, instead of just
Re:I got robbed! [minor spoilers] (Score:2)
Matrix Reloads and Dry Fires. (Score:5, Insightful)
I was disappointed with the villain development (there wasn't any.)Some of the fight scenes were totally unecessary, especially the replication scene. Neo just supermans his ass out of there after exploiting all of the latest filming techniques.
Revolutions better fix things up or I'm going to be a very sad panda.
I saw it last night, (Score:2)
I didn't find that there was a whole lot of plot development, but what was there was interesting and definitely ties in with the original. The action sequences were just phenomenal, and the soundtrack is freaking awesome. I'd definitely see it again, and I'm definitely waiting for Revolution.
Well, I have not yet spent my $10 (Score:2)
I guess I'm gonna go see it eventually, perhaps tomorrow morning at 10am or something when all the geeks are still in bed.
My opinion, not that it matters much (Score:3, Interesting)
Overall rating (scale 1-10) 7.15
This is just MY view, you are entitled to yours. This one is mine.
movie was good, cept beginning (Score:2)
My opinion.. (Score:5, Insightful)
My two cents,
Bah! (Score:5, Insightful)
Not trying to troll here, but the problem with it, IMO, is that the Wachowskis (who wrote and directed it) received so much praise for the first Matrix movie, that they were under the impression the whole world wanted to hear them babble on and on about it.
Characters will talk for what seems like hours and never actually say anything. In the first movie, the language was simple (Morpheus holds up a battery and proclaims that the machines: "Turn humans... into this."), and you just had to wrap your head around the concepts. In RELOADED, you have to wade through all the tech talk before you can even start to understand what you're being told... by then it's time for the next scene already.
Also a problem was the overabundance of subplots (Agent Smith, the Morpheus love-triangle, the operator of the Nebachadneza(sp?) and his wife, etc) that they're all underdeveloped and hard to care about.
Great action though. The Wachowskis obviously care about developing their mythology quite a bit, and that's commendable (and for some, this will demand repeated viewing), but they just need to make it a little more accessible IMO.
'Matrix' Geeks acting badly (Score:5, Interesting)
Stephanie Paterik
The Arizona Republic
May. 16, 2003 02:10 PM
Hard-core Matrix Reloaded fans threw popcorn, pounded on the projection room window and ran screaming from the theater when a projector broke during a first-night showing in Chandler.
Hundreds of people waited hours at Harkins Chandler Fashion Center to see the highly anticipated Matrix sequel at 11 p.m. on opening night Wednesday. A projector lamp broke during the heavily advertised freeway chase scene.
"The movie was ruined," said Ward Andrews, 28, of Chandler. "You're excited, you're tense and then you don't get to see the key sequence in the film."
The audio continued to roll but was drowned out by people yelling and shaking their seats. One man climbed on someone's shoulders to pound on the projection room window, said Aubrey Johnson, 22, of Chandler, who waited five hours to see the show.
The problem was fixed in 10 minutes, but it was impossible to rewind and show the missed two minutes, said Harkins' Jackie Faubus. People who left were given two movie passes each. Those who stayed got coupons for free popcorn.
Philosophy 101 (Score:2)
Record Sales Days (Score:2, Informative)
5/15/2003 The Matrix Reloaded $42,508,303
5/3/2002 Spider-Man $39,406,872
11/16/2002 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets $34,213,803
11/17/2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone $33,512,941
11/16/2001 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone $32,333,203
5/3/2003 X2: X-Men United $32,000,629
www.the-numbers.com [the-numbers.com]
what to expect/not to expect out of any movie (Score:2, Interesting)
I went into this movie only
I thought... (Score:2, Interesting)
Is it just me ... (Score:2)
Of course ... see the movie and judge for yourself ...
Deeper meanings (*** WARNING SPOOLERS ***) (Score:5, Interesting)
#!/i/am/chaos
Re:Deeper meanings (*** WARNING SPOOLERS ***) (Score:5, Insightful)
I think there are no machines. Infact the Matrix is built by Humans (and not machines), to develope AI. And all the characters we see in the movie are just computer programs (like Agent Smith, Oracle). Which means Neo is also a computer program.
Right now Neo is in version 6, and shown to be most promising candidate to being closest to being a human, and thus being the perfect AI. He is the only one to realise that Zion is also a Matrix, and thus becoming self-aware (which regular programs are not). Maybe Persephone (Monica Bellucci) is the only human in the Matrix, and when she asks Neo to kiss her, she is infact testing whether Neo can truely show humans emotion too. The architect is also there to test the program of Neo, by giving a few hints, and see if Neo realises that Zion is also a matrix.
I think in the 3rd part we will see what Morpheus said in the first movie, "In the beginning of 21st century, the mankind was celebrating the creating of AI" (or whatever). This AI is Neo.v6, and humans will be celebrating its successful creation in 3rd part.
But then, this is just what I think
Re:Deeper meanings (*** WARNING SPOOLERS ***) (Score:3, Insightful)
No, I didn't buy the matrix-in-a-matrix bit. What I gathered from the Architect was that the last 1% of humans that don't buy the illusion must have an out. A safety pressure valve for the matrix, as it were. Those who must escape can go to Zion. But Zion is a very real threat, so it has to be exterminated periodically. The holding pool must be emptied, lest it spill over and make a mess. But The One #6 didn't buy it. He risked both the death of Trinity and the extinction of the huma
it sucked (Score:2, Insightful)
Animatrix references (Score:4, Informative)
1) Final Flight of the Osiris: well, this reference one is obvious enough. The Osiris is a sister ship that sees the comming army and sends a warning message back to Zion.
2) Kid's Story: In this Animatrix Neo gives some kid a personal invite out of the matrix and he makes it. I'm almost certain that the kid following Neo around in Zion is this same kid (especially the "I didn't save you, you saved yourself" quote, which follows with the Animatrix how the kid cept himself alive).
Oh, and no, the Animatrix doesn't come out on DVD for an other 2 weeks or so, which is a shame. You think they would have released it first since it really adds quite a bit to the story.
What good is a phone call... (Score:5, Funny)
Ghostbusters (Score:5, Funny)
"Are you the gatekeeper?"
"I am the Keymaster!"
In Retrospect, Some Grievances (spoilers!) (Score:5, Interesting)
1. The Orgy Scene
2. The Twins
3. Neo and Trinity
1. This is my biggest and only real complaint about the movie. This scene lasted much too long. At first, I could not even imagine a purpose for the scene, but someone in this comment forum has carelessly yet effectively explained how the scene's purpose was to illustrate the humans' love for real life. When humanity itself is threatened and you are the occupants of the last human city, you can bet that the primal instincts are going to come out and play. Still, I think the scene could have been significantly shortened. (Then again, there's no telling whose faces we might see if we look slowly and carefully through the scene when the DVD is released.)
2. I'm not sure if I am disappointed or relieved, but I feel like the Twins were showcased more in the trailers than the movie warranted. Or perhaps the point was to lead us to believe that their role was more prominent than it is in order to surprise us with Agent Smith, whose scenes surpassed everything I had imagined prior to seeing the film. Either way, I feel like they could have done more or played a role closer to the center of the plot, but as things are, they should still be around for the third installment...
3. Okay, this is just the teenage boy in me, and maybe this can be an outtake, a spoof, or something else later, but why don't Neo and Trinity "play" around in the Construct? Can you imagine the limits they could reach with the ability to program various skills, ideas, locales into their minds? The possibilities are endless! Matrix p0rn! (Okay, the end.)
Finally, it must be said that the visual effects were awesome, Rob Dougan's and Juno Factor's music was killer, and, well, there isn't enough to be said about the story. Great movie. I plan to see it several times more ... before I turn 21 in July.
My analysis (Score:3, Funny)
Everything from the first movie is a lie.
Neo is a program, not human.
Nobody ever left the matrix.
We no longer know what the matrix really is.
There's this 'architech' guy who really runs the whole show.
For all we know, the matrix is really just a video game. At the end of Revolutions we might see some kid pop a disk out of his computer and say "I'm bored of this game." That'd be funny.
OK, now imagine yourself some silly CG fight scenes. Oooohh.. Ahhhh.. OK, now save your $8.50 and donate it to the EFF instead of the MPAA. Isn't our *real world* technological freedom more important than some silly hollywood movie? Don't be hypocrites, folks. Don't support these guys.
And no, I didn't personally go see Reloaded.
A comparison (Score:3, Funny)
Swordfish: Laughable computing, Halle Berry topless.
Winner and still champion: Swordfish
What do you MEAN 'it was nothing like this one'?!? (Score:2, Interesting)
I mean, wether you agree that it's profound or not (I never understood that one), you can't argue with the fact that The Matrix was a pretty, but pretty mediocre genre film.
Enjoyable, sure; but take it for what it is, and stop trying to read crap into it which isn't there!
Re:It sucked (Score:3, Funny)
Re:It sucked (Score:3)
You have 2 presumably virgin hackers. They make love for the first time. Is it gonna be John Holmes XXX style or is it gonna be clumsy and 'woops wrong hole, sorry'?
Just imagine what 75% of
Re:OSS Use in Matrix Reloaded. (Score:2)
ssh was used!
Re:Lord of the Rings.... (Score:2)
Re:The people who hated it: (Score:3, Interesting)
Anyway, I get what you're saying, and it would have been REALLY REALLY COOL if th