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Nmap Featured in The Matrix Reloaded 651

rajiv was among dozens to report that unlike most "Hacks" in film, The Matrix reloaded actually has an ounce of reality where other films would rely on fancy 3D graphics. You can see more at Insecure.org where they have screenshots. It's only on screen for a split second, but Tritnity uses Nmap to find a vulnerable SSH server, and then exploits it using the SSH1 CRC32 exploit from 2001.
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Nmap Featured in The Matrix Reloaded

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  • by krisp ( 59093 ) * on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:36AM (#5985311) Homepage
    I like her password: Zion1010
    • no, she speaks l33t, so it's Z10N0101 ... :)

    • Re:Nice Password (Score:3, Insightful)

      by cubedbee ( 629822 )
      That's Zion0101, i.e Zion5. This is the fifth incarnation of the city, after all. But nobody is supposed to know that...
      • I thought it was actually the 7th incarnation of the city -- 6 saviors came before, after all.
        • by usr122122121 ( 563560 ) <{usr122122121} {at} {braxtech.com}> on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:55AM (#5985405) Homepage
          I thought it was actually the 7th incarnation of the city -- 6 saviors came before, after all.
          Well, if you take all the zeros and letters out of the password "Z10N0101", you're left with "111", which is 7 in binary.

          Coincidence? PERHAPS NOT. :-p

          • 101 is featured a lot in the film, like the mythical interstate 101 sign at the freeway entrance (although california does have a 101 freeway, it's US route 101, not Interstate 101).

            There's a lot of talk about his on road geek newsgroups. See, it's not just computer geeks that lack a life! :)

            • Re:Nice Password (Score:3, Interesting)

              by salimma ( 115327 ) *
              101 is featured a lot in the film

              Was not there a room 101 in George Orwell's 1984? The torture chamber where you face your worst nightmares?
              • Re:Nice Password (Score:4, Interesting)

                by GMontag ( 42283 ) <gmontag@@@guymontag...com> on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:01PM (#5986025) Homepage Journal
                Yes and he pulled that from real life from when he worked at the BBC. Room 101 was the room where the editors worked.

                Many of his experiences from the BBC and other places made it into his books, like the cleaning women singing in the halls in thee early morning hours became the proles singing in 1984. Bad, sand-dry tobacco during the Spanish Revolution-Civil-War (Homage to Catalonia) that ran out of the cigarette before you could smoke it became Victory cigarettes in 1984, etc.

                Good catch!
        • Re:Nice Password (Score:3, Informative)

          by BarakMich ( 90556 )
          Mmm... it's been alluded to, but not said flat out, by others.

          It's the 5th incarnation of the city, with the 6th "One"
          In the beginning, there wouldn't be a Zion, but there would be the first "One", who, through the whole process, would create the first Zion. He'd die of age, and this Zion would survive until the 2nd "One"... so on, so forth.
          Neo is the 6th "One", coming from the 5th Zion -- if he were to go through the other door, he would create the 6th Zion.

          Some here understand this progression. Some don
        • Re:Nice Password (Score:4, Informative)

          by rutledjw ( 447990 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @01:52PM (#5986683) Homepage
          Are you sure? I thought that the Merillynchian (whatever, the guy who had the twins) said "I've survived your 5 predecessors and I'll survive you as well".

          Wouldn't that mean the first "Neo" built the first Zion, second Neo built the second, etc and now it's the 5th Zion that about to get wasted? This Neo will / was supposed to build Zion 6?

          I could be wrong, but I THOUGHT that's what I heard. The Architect also said the 5 before you, didn't he?

      • Re:Nice Password (Score:4, Insightful)

        by soundofthemoon ( 623369 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @05:01PM (#5987866)
        Zion0101 is the 6th Zion.

        It's zero-based, duh.
    • by ANTI ( 81267 )
      yeah,
      nice pwd.

      And I guess I'll have to change the root password on all our boxes again ;)
  • Uhm... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:38AM (#5985322)
    In response to :-

    > The Matrix reloaded actually has an ounce of
    > reality where other films would rely on fancy
    > 3D graphics.

    So in several hundred years time people STILL won't have patched their bloody SSH holes?

    Yah actually I guess that is reality ;o)

    AL
    • Re:Uhm... (Score:5, Informative)

      by marx ( 113442 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:47AM (#5985372)
      So in several hundred years time people STILL won't have patched their bloody SSH holes?
      Inside the Matrix it's present time, and the exploit was launched against a standard power plant computer, not against a Matrix computer.

      So it's accurate.

    • Re:Uhm... (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Ann1ka ( 604222 )
      In the matrix they are only a few months or a year after the first movie, which took place in the year 1999. The date in the 'real' world is unknown, but believed to be 2199, which is totally irrelevant to this matter.
      So if the exploit had already been possible in 1999/2000 it would have been correct. On the other hand, the matrix is fake, there is no reason to believe the machines based it on real facts from so many years back, from their perspectieve.

      The first time they try to keep it correct and still p
    • Re:Uhm... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by mrpuffypants ( 444598 ) <mrpuffypants&gmail,com> on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:54AM (#5985401)
      Don't forget that the matrix was simply a projection of the world as it was circa 1999-2001

      In that regard it would be rather accurate.
  • by Trevalyx ( 627273 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:38AM (#5985323) Homepage
    When I went to the 1AM showing on release night, there were a lot of interesting people.. When it got to the hacking scene, only a few people cheered, however, they did it with enough vigor that everyone else was caught of guard.. And when I tried to explain to the guy nibbling his foot next to me, "Nmap," I just got a blank stare...
    • by HardCase ( 14757 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:10PM (#5986083)
      ...who's always talking during the movie. Hey, do you have a cell phone too? And a beeper? Maybe a crying child or two?


      All of this managed to make my Matrix experience just that much harder to enjoy.


      -h-

      • by Trevalyx ( 627273 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:37PM (#5986229) Homepage
        Well, minus the little hellians and the beeper, that's me. Sometimes I bring my laptop along in anticipation that there are going to be a few dull scenes. Though I try to keep conference calls on my phone with tons of flashy multicolored lights to a minimum after credits, sometimes it just happens, ya know? Also, I always always carry bang-snaps to movies. They're to throw at people who complain. The firecrackers are for people who complain twice. Roman candles for anyone who dares go beyond that.
  • by Speare ( 84249 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:39AM (#5985329) Homepage Journal
    Where did the nmap folks get all these screenshots of a movie that's ostensibly fresh-in-theaters? And why oh why did they name their sources? I'm imagining Agent Smith from the MPAA will be giving out a few cease and desist visits soon.
  • by hillct ( 230132 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:40AM (#5985332) Homepage Journal
    Severla hundred years in the future and still, IPv6 hasn't been adopted. Personally, I'm not suprised. It'll take an act of god to get it deployed.

    --CTH
  • reported yesterday by one of our slashdotters [slashdot.org] ;)

    I still miss the swordfish like graphics though.
    It was a lot more exciting - with Trovolta going yes! yes ! from the back.
  • Sexy (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:40AM (#5985334)
    "...Tritnity uses Nmap to find a vulnerable SSH server, and then exploits it using the SSH1 CRC32 exploit from 2001.."

    Now THAT is sexy! :)
  • Private Network! (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:41AM (#5985338)
    Now we know that we cannot hack into the Matrix from our Personal Computer:

    As you can see on the screenshot, the IP is 10.2.2.2, which is on the 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 network reserved for private usage.

    It's impossible to reach such an IP directly (without hacking their server / router / firewall first) from an arbitrary point of the Internet.

    Damn!
  • Before you say it... (Score:5, Informative)

    by tbmaddux ( 145207 ) * on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:41AM (#5985339) Homepage Journal
    ...exploits it using the SSH1 CRC32 exploit from 2001.
    I'm sure there will be lots of funny jokes posted about using a 2001 exploit far into the future, patching systems, etc. etc. However, while the Matrix films are set in the future, the Matrix is set in the present, at the "peak of your civilization" according to Agent Smith. So it is appropriate for Trinity to hack a present-day system using a present-day exploit. She could even be ahead of her time, if the first movie was set in 1999 and it's only 6 months later, then the Matrix might not even have gotten through Y2K yet (did I just spoil the third movie).

    Aside from the amusing idea of having someone hack a computer program using their avatar inside the computer-generated construct of the Matrix, this sameness of the Matrix over long time periods raises an unanswered question in my mind. Why don't the people notice the lack of advancement in the Matrix? Over a hundred years of 1999-ness... no stunning advances in CGI, or science, or anything!

    • Thats the point: the world has progressed most likely. The matrix has apparently been running between 500 and 600 years (since The One is a systemic anomoly, and Morpheus makes repeated note that this current Zion has been around for 100 years, its likely that each One takes 100 years). Most likely, after the first [Utopic] Matrix failed, they did one of the following:

      1: To periodically reset the time in the matrix, by permitting all the adults to die while not maintaining crops of infants in suspended
    • It's interesting the relationships of the "code" in the matrix, like eating a cake causes a routine to execute in the cake to achieve the desired effect.

      So the human subjects in the matrix still are working their brains in their little tubs, so I imagine as they invent things, those things would be adapted, assimilated, and used by the machines running the matrix, especially if...

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    • Why don't the people notice the lack of advancement in the Matrix? Over a hundred years of 1999-ness... no stunning advances in CGI, or science, or anything!

      Because the new tech is always hyped on Slashdot, then everyone forgets about it for years until an 'Ask Slashdot' is posted wondering where all this cool shit went.

    • then the Matrix might not even have gotten through Y2K yet (did I just spoil the third movie).

      Nope, not even close.
  • by Adam Rightmann ( 609216 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:42AM (#5985343)
    While namp is a neat hack, before any of you juvenile deliquents think of using it to commit computer hacking felonies, be aware that it is easily fooled.

    If you look at the source code, you can see which ports it queries, and which responses it maps against. We used this for great affect at Adequacy, http://www.adequacy.org, editing the registry of our Win 2k box, and the configuration files of the various TCP/IP programs to make it appear as a simple FreeBSD to the casual hacker.

    Oh, the laughs were on us when those script children proceeded to attempt to hack us with canned scripts for use against FreeBSD, only to fail. The looks on their pimply, greasy faces were probably priceless, only to be matched when the local law enforcement arrived at their parents house to confiscate their computers.

  • by gurnb ( 80987 ) * on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:42AM (#5985346) Homepage
    How do they have screen shots ?! Is it possible that this movie has been leaked out to the INTERNET?!

    It's madness I tell you, madness!!!

    Still waiting for disc 2 to d/l, so I can verify this for myself. Purely for educational reasons.
    • Re:Screen Shots ?! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Istealmymusic ( 573079 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:05PM (#5986049) Homepage Journal
      Is there anything morally wrong with downloading an esoteric release of Reloaded online? I went to the movies, paid my money, contributing to the $44 billion or so profit of Warner Brothers. I don't feel guilty downloading a crappy quality VCD to notice all the details and things I missed. (But I did notice the terminal with ssh and nmap on it).

      Nothing wrong at all.

      • Re:Screen Shots ?! (Score:3, Insightful)

        by feepness ( 543479 )
        Is there anything morally wrong with downloading an esoteric release of Reloaded online? I went to the movies, paid my money, contributing to the $44 billion or so profit of Warner Brothers. I don't feel guilty downloading a crappy quality VCD to notice all the details and things I missed. (But I did notice the terminal with ssh and nmap on it).

        Nothing wrong at all.


        It's irrelevant how you feel. Guilt is based on legality, under which you clearly are guilty. Whether it's wrong or not is an entirely dif
  • lol.. (Score:3, Funny)

    by DaLiNKz ( 557579 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:42AM (#5985350) Homepage Journal
    This was actually sorta cool when i read it in this story [slashdot.org].. It was interesting to see her portscan then jump into the server.. The chick sittin next to me wasnt aware of anything about it because she doesnt use linux, but i was like "OI!!! Thats real! look look!!! SSH!!! LOOK!!" .. then a few people looked at me weird :s
  • Pix (Score:5, Interesting)

    by spoonist ( 32012 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:43AM (#5985351) Journal

    Pictures can be found on Fyodor's site [insecure.org].

    Oh, and I must say, that Trinity freakin' kicks ass. As you can see from the pictures [insecure.org], nmap says "No exact OS matches for host". Trinity goes ahead and throws the sploit anyway without knowing the system's architecture AND IT WORKS!

    That just kicks ass.

    A big Eartha-Kitt-Cat-Woman growl for Trinity.

    • Re:Pix (Score:5, Funny)

      by kampit ( 48398 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:43AM (#5985620)
      Yeah, and if you look at the pictures closer, you notice

      (The 1539 ports scanned but not shown below are in the state: closed)
      /t State Service
      /tcp open ssh


      So she does know there's an sshd running on the system, then she throws the 'spoit and it works.. maybe you'd prefer it if there had been a 3 hour sequence where she coded up her own exploit, DDoS'd the whole matrix and pranced around in the nude saying 'marvelous!', but sometimes you just have to make sacrifices to please the general audience :)
  • Whoah (Score:5, Funny)

    by parkanoid ( 573952 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:44AM (#5985357)
    Deja Vu! (read: dupe. Must be a glitch in the matrix).
  • I saw the movie last night and was disappointed generally, in that it was not as good as the first movie, but sequels are produced with the recognition that each sequel will have 2/3 the audience of it's predecessor, so I guess it's proffitable, but at some point producing sequels will devalue the original to the point where it will affect the overall perception of the franchise.

    My biggest objection is Trinity has lost her whole S&M mystique in favor of this nice cuddly feel. Seems a real shame. Oh Wel
    • I wonder how many times this has to be stated until people learn... The Matrix is a trilogy (like Back to the Future and LOTR), a single story split into three volumes/movies for convenience (because it's so long) and perhaps profit.

      The trilogy status hasn't been so obvious with The Matrix because, at the time of making the first part, the producers weren't sure if it would be worth it. As a side effect, the first part is a rather well contained story in itself, which is not a bad thing in a trilogy. Sti

  • In this article, [securityfocus.com] I'm surprised by the following quote:

    "I think there are at least two public exploits in circulation right now," said Zalewski, in a telephone interview. "They just got released about a month after the advisory. And I know there are some that are not public."

    I though security through obscurity was something only Microsoft did? Why are there ssh exploits that we (the users) don't know about? Everyone has access to the code so where are these millions of eyeballs? It appears there's only
    • Actually, it's common for there to be exploits that are not generally well known. As long as you are aware of the bug that makes the exploits useful, and are made aware of how to patch ssh to prevent the bug from being exploited, it doesn't matter how many different exploits there are. If you have patched, or taken the advisory's other actions, you won't be affected by techniques that exploit that bug, whether public or not.
  • by Gray ( 5042 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @09:58AM (#5985416)
    Now if only that human body as a power supply thing made a lick of sense.

    I hope some Saberhagen Berserker's show up in the next movie and settle everybodies hash real good.
  • future? (Score:2, Informative)

    by DreadSpoon ( 653424 )
    Keep seeing posts about "in the future they still have this hole" or similiar items.

    Remember, folks, the hack wasn't taking place in the future - it was in the Matrix. They weren't hacking the machines, they were hacking the "fake" computers in the power plant.

    Think of it like hacking into an ancient copy of usermode linux. ;-)
    • Kinda funny that a reality ruled by computers can't even keep up with patches. Makes ya wonder how Windows Update can work if that doesn't! ;)
  • by iceT ( 68610 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:04AM (#5985439)
    "The envelope, please."

    "And the award for the best open-source hacking tool used in a motion picture goes to nmap, for it's cameo-appearence in Matrix: Reloaded"

    "Camera scans the audience where we see tripwire, sitting with his girlfriend ethereal... cuts to ndiff, who is just beaming w/ pride..."

  • Bay Area (Score:4, Interesting)

    by tedrlord ( 95173 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:04AM (#5985440)
    The great thing about watching the Matrix in a theater in Mountain View, CA, is that when that hacking scene came up, half the theater laughed or cheered. We're all geeks here.
  • This has been mentioned on /. more times than any human can count since the movie was released. This story is -1, Redundant.
  • One of the other available screenshots actually shows a command prompt, which appears to be just "RF-CONTROL>", which is rather odd. (No bash in the Matrix?) And there's a command in $PATH called "disable", which is executed as "disable grid nodes 21 - 40". Hmmm. I don't recall any tool written with getopt which would handle that sort of thing by default. And best of all, it actually gives a confirmation message. Huh? That can't be right. No UNIX tool gives a confirmation message without your prompting i
  • by Mossfoot ( 310128 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:28AM (#5985553) Homepage
    What gets me is how some people go out of their way to nippick the movie to pieces "oh this is stupid, this makes no sense" and others love it so much that they read WAY too much into it.

    Take all the religous and phylosphical stuff about it. Yes, there is a lot of connections in there, it was put in the same way that other good story tellers use myth to make their world and stories feel more real and grander. The first Star Wars trilogy comes to mind. But then you have people who think every little thing is an intentional reference to something or other.

    One example. I heard that Neo dies for 72 seconds before he comes back to represent the 72 hours (3 days) Jesus died. I timed it, and it's crap. You can find 72 seconds in there, sure, but there is no place you can say "okay logically you start Neo's death here and his coming back to life here" and it adds up to 72 seconds. Very fuzzy logic going on there. But it is symtimatic of how much people want to find meaning in things like this.

    Is this a bad thing? Perhaps. One of the complaints I've heard of the sequal is that it's trying even harder to sound psudo-religious-phylosophical as a result of this faction of the fandom base.

    Tolkien said it best when he got annoyed at how people thought The Lord of the Rings was an analogy for World War 2 (and would be rolling over in his grave if he knew how people tried to equate the movies with September 11 and the war against terrorism).

    "I think that many confuse 'applicability' with 'alegory'; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author"

    Hey, didn't Morpheus himself say "free your mind"? Stop thinking every gawd damn word is meant to be spiritually profound! :P
  • by Anonymous Coward
    "I know this. It's a Unix system!"
  • Went to see the flick yesterday and did indeed notice the ssh stuff...

    But where did insecure.org get photos from? Kind of leads me to believe that some naughty people have been taking pics at the flicks...I can't imagine that WB ponied-up the requested shots -- or did they?

    -psy
  • by neema ( 170845 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:43AM (#5985617) Homepage
    Off-topic on the nmap discussion, but on-topic as far the Matrix goes, here is something I just thought of. It's pack full of spoilers for reloaded and speculation about revolutions, so consider that your warning.

    SPOILERS AND SPECULATION FOLLOW:

    Now, the theory that Zion is really a matrix within a matrix has been floating around and I happen to agree with it. The premise of the movie, I think, is that not only is Neo "The One" from the first layer of the matrix (which was exposed in the first movie), but happens also to be the small percentage that becomes "The One" in the second layer of the matrix, something the machines didn't count on.

    As for him having to make a decision between saving Trinity and saving mankind, I don't think he's gotten to the choice yet and that will come in revolutions. The Architect said that the expulsion of humans from the first matrix servered a purpose for the machines, so, theoretically, perhaps Morpheus, Trinity and the rest of them are actually computer programs, to assist moving the dissident population of the first layer of the matrix to the second layer. Of course, there is a possibility they are not aware of their own existance. This would explain Morpheus' adamant belief in "The One" (it's been programmed in him). Of course, Neo's love for Trinity complicates things and I think that will be the choice in the third matrix. He will have to decide between destroying this second layer of the matrix, which would destroy Trinity the computer program too, or preserving it because of his love for her.

    Feel free to point out flaws, because I'd really appreciate that.
    • by Jason H. Smith ( 142884 ) <jhsNO@SPAMproven-corporation.com> on Sunday May 18, 2003 @11:39AM (#5985899) Homepage
      Just got back from my third viewing tonight. It took that many times for all that architect talk to sink in. A few thoughts...

      First, AFAICT, they are definitely still in the Matrix. The architect is intentionally difficult to follow, but I think his point was, the 99% acceptance rate is nice, but something must be done with those who do not accept. And the answer is simply have the Matrix make them think they busted out. Also, there's no need for any meta-Matrix, as the first Matrix could easily simulate the escape. Think chroot vs. user-mode Linux. But that's a small point.

      If you watch again, you will notice the Merelvengian (sp) say that Neo's predecessors had much more respect, and also that he has survived those predecessors, and he will survive Neo. But that's all said before you know what he means. But what I got is that eventually, the shit hits the fan, and they just reboot the whole damned thing every hundred years or so (not a bad uptime).

      Also, unlike you, I think he made the choice. Neo chose not to go to the source. At first, I thought this was weird, because the Neos on TV did the same. I thought this was the previous recordings (i.e. all 6 made the same choice); but after watching again, it looks like the TVs are showing now, not the past. That makes sense. This is the first time Neo made the wrong choice. I'm thinking this fits the Hollywood formula pretty well. The previous 5 Neos were simply benevolent mankind-lovers; but this time, we get the predictable theme that love conquers all or such.

      I thought it was pretty cool, but the plot is treading into dangerous ground. When you start blurring reality with dreams, you're walking on cheesy, overused deus ex machina storylines. It's easy to get lame and make crap. E.g. look at how dumb Existenz ended up being. But then, I liked Total Recall, so there is hope for a great finale.

      So I think there's still a lot up for grabs. Since Zion and the war are still a computer simulation, for all we know, there might not even be a war going on at all! Although there probably is, since it wouldn't be very Hollywood to just handwave away two movies worth of bad guys.

      Anyway, I'm thinking now that they know they're still in the matrix, perhaps the people in Zion will start breaking the rules and have some actual means of fighting the approaching machine army? Or maybe they'll all just pop up a level, leaving the machine army there to twiddle their thumbs.
      • by OmniVector ( 569062 ) <see my homepage> on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:25PM (#5986167) Homepage
        ****SPOILER ALERT****

        I think the best explination i've heard, or at least the one I like the most, is someone said Neo is really just a computer program too. The purpose of Neo, and the whole reason 5 different versions of him have existed alreay, is to try and find the "perfect" AI. The Matrix is really run by humans, the the humans are trying to find a version of Neo that will truely be human enough to be considedered actual AI.

        If you remember where Trinity types in her password to crack the power system, Z1ON0101, the binary 0101 translates to 5. Is Trinity aware of this being the 5th incarnation through the fact that she too is just a computer program or is this just odd coincidence?

        For the people who say the 2nd was too much action, and not enough plot i think it was twice the plot and action... This second one raises a lot more mindfuck questions.
  • "Alias" (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ElGanzoLoco ( 642888 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @10:45AM (#5985625) Homepage
    The "Alias" series on TV also features quite realistic computer manipulation. SSH, "ping -f", traceroutes, recompiles, etc...

    They pushed realism quite far: in one particular episode (can't remember the name, but this scene takes place in Mexico), one of the agents goes undercover as a DJ, and uses an iBook (macs are popular among musicians and DJ's) instead of his PC laptop, for more realism... Cool :)

  • by FauxPasIII ( 75900 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @11:27AM (#5985825)
    She's got sense enough to use a sploit, but she chooses a feeble password like Z1ON0101. Come ON, Trin, only 2 character classes, only 8 characters ? -sigh-
  • by LoudMusic ( 199347 ) on Sunday May 18, 2003 @12:27PM (#5986180)
    Will NOT be Z1ON0101. However, I will be adding that to my dictionaries (:

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