"Star Wars: Clone Wars" coming to Cartoon Network 197
Androclese writes "E! Online News reports - 'Star Wars: Clone Wars, a series of animated shorts featuring the epic battles often mentioned but never seen in the Star Wars films, is being prepped for
its fall premiere on the Cartoon Network...helmed by Genndy Tartakovsky of Samurai Jack and Dexter's Laboratory fame.
Each Clone Wars adventure will run two-to-three minutes and focus on Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin Skywalker and their cohorts as they lead the Galactic Republic against evil armies of cloned troopers created by the Separatists.'"
It couldn't be that bad. (Score:2)
How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:1)
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:1)
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:1)
The acting rarely rise above that seen in a dutch pr0n flick, the story would be better had they stolen the script from said pr0n flick.
SW used to be an icon, a benchmark for all scifi. Now it is product, wrapped, sold, consumed and fed back into the sewer whence it came.
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:1)
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:2)
That's true, but the OP said "scifi". Whether he knows it or not, ther is a distinction. Star Wars is good scifi, but not even on the radar as SF.
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:1)
It's been 14 seconds since I've pressed reply!
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:2)
There is of course no authoritative definition, but I think most hard core SF fans would say that scifi is low idea content; where there is no originality in plot and no logic in the science (if it's mentioned at all). The SF elements are never original and often tacked on to plots that could as easily been in historical or fantasy settings. In "real" SF the ideas are central. There are very few SF movies or TV shows, almost all non-literary mass-media is scifi
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:1)
SciFi=fun SF = boring and pretentious
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:3, Informative)
As I said, SF is often judged worthless by people who've never read it.
Read Niven (his early stuff), Pohl, Neal Stephenson, just at random for some good SF. For boring and pretentious, look at some of Lucas's recent scifi.
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:2)
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:2)
Rather, it's a way for SF fans to distinguish themselves from the mouth-breathing fanboys who've appropriated the term.
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:2)
I think the attempt at making a distinction became an issue in the 70s, when movie/TV-related SF started to swamp the whole genre, and all the related novelisations, three or four places removed from any original thought, started to take over the book rackspace as well.
One thing does bother me, though, it feels rather subjective, sort of an "I'm better than you" classification...sort of like Trekkie vs. Tr
Re:How Can You Not Like The Prequels??? (Score:2)
Most of those who make or consume "scifi" use that term. The idea is we let them keep that and use "SF" for the real thing.
The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:2, Informative)
He doesn't have much choice, Star Wars was always supposed to be the story of Anakin Skywalker. If he focused on the Clone Wars instead of Anakin's fall from grace, that would be contradictory to the intent.
Which is not to say that I think this will be good, or will do the Clone Wars justice, or will in any way shape or form be fitting. But try to see things from George's point of view.
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:2)
Mods, give the parent some brownie points... I do believe this gentleman has stumbled on whole new untapped revenue streams for hollywood!
Can you imagine a Matrix 1.5? The film starts with Neo and Trinity picking up the pieces and hightailing it out of there after setting off the emp. They face a rugged and dangerous journey across the machine badlands before making their way to zion where morpheous tries to convince everyone that Neo is the one.
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:2)
It's funny you pick that out of all possible examples when this [imdb.com] exists.
I think "interquels" could be pretty neat in the right circumstances. Or "co-quels" like Ender's Shadow.
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:2)
Touched by a Gungan
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:3, Interesting)
Was Star Wars always supposed to be the story of Anakin Skywalker, or is that just another example of LucasHistory(TM)--you know, the version of history where the Star Wars films were always intended for kids, Greedo shot first, and Lucas planned a nine-part saga from day one? ;)
George Lucas' Reality Distortion Field (Score:1)
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:1)
Skipping the clone wars isn't really his fault. However, I agree with a previous post that an Eposide 2.5 would be nice. Or maybe someone starting a new trilogy covering the clone wars.
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:2)
No clone wars on Big Screen!? (Score:2)
Sigh... Maybe Speilberg can convince him to let him make a Clone Wars movie...
Honestly, back when I was 7 yrs old and watched Obi Wan tell Luke about his father being the greate
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:3, Insightful)
Is that why episodes 4-6 are about Luke and his friends?
Lucas just likes to revise his intentions and pretend he always wanted it to be about the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker.
Re:The Clone Wars and Episode III (Score:2)
E Online's Description.... (Score:4, Informative)
Nice. Only problem is that the Clones are on the side of the Jedi and the Republic, not the Separatists. The Separatists use droid armies. Someone really was doing their job over at E, weren't they?
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Senator Palpatine IS Darth Sidious. Duh. (Score:2)
It will be Senator/Emperor Palpatine who finishes Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader's training. Since there can only be two Sith, a Master and an Apprentice, Darth Maul had to die. However, at the end of Episode 6: Ret
Re:E Online's Description.... (Score:4, Informative)
This cartoon is about the CLONE WARS. The CLONE WARS are the epic battles between the Republic and the Separatists, not what happens after the Republic "wins" and becomes the EMPIRE of the original trilogy. The Clone Troopers won't turn on the Jedi until AFTER the CLONE WARS ends. So, for the duration of the cartoon series and the first 10 minutes of EPISODE THREE, the CLONES will be on the side of the JEDI.
What you are confused about are the events after the CLONE WARS. That is when Supreme Chancellor Palpatine declares himself Emperor and Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader. That is when the Jedi are hunted down and driven toward extinction thanks to Vader, the renamed STORM TROOPERS, and bounty hunters like Boba Fett.
Palpatine IS DARTH SIDEOUS.
Here are some great links for you to do some research on:
http://www.starwars.com
http://www.theforce.net
http://www.jedinet.com
http://www.rebelscum.com
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wow (Score:4, Funny)
Not that I was going to see the 3rd movie, but if they had been any good I would have been pissed about reading this. Oh well.
dude, get a grip (Score:1, Troll)
Re:wow (Score:1, Flamebait)
How did I spoil the film at all?
1. The Emperor's name from the classic trilogy has been commonly known to be PALPATINE since his action figure was released back in 1983/84 with RETURN OF THE JEDI.
2. Emperor Palpatine in 1983's RETURN OF THE JEDI wears the same style robe as DARTH SIDIOUS of 1999's THE PHANTOM MENACE and 2002's ATTACK OF THE CLONES. Darth Vader is clearly the Emperor's apprentice in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and RETURN OF THE JEDI. So common sense would lead you to c
Re:wow (Score:1)
Re:wow (Score:2)
You are referring to DARTH SIDIOUS, the robed Sith Master from Episode I and II. Darth Sidious is Palpatine, who later becomes the Emperor. The hot rumor online is that in Episode III, he'll reveal himself to certain Jedi at the end of the flick and his face will change into the decrepid face seen in Jedi with a wave of his hand (if you'
Re:wow (Score:2)
It's been known longer than
Re:wow (Score:2)
True, but the novelization is not cannon. The novelization was ghost-written by Alan Dean Foster based upon earlier scripts for the movie. If you'll notice in the novelization
Uh yeah... (Score:2)
What I didn't know was the chain of events that led up to it. And now I pretty much know the outline. Thanks.
Re:wow **Now This Is Possible Spoilers!!** (Score:2)
Give me sliced open Tauntauns and Ugnaughts any day.
Re:wow **Now This Is Possible Spoilers!!** (Score:2)
Yep, it is actually Bobba Fett and his crew, according to this script that I read, that do most of the Jedi hunting/slaughtering. Bobba Fett is obviously a far superior warrior than his father was!*
Good points, but that script (actually,
Re:wow (Score:1)
Re:wow (Score:2)
*ducks*
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Now, if you'll EXCUSE ME, I'm GOING to go EAT some CHEE-TOS.
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I was a big supporter of this idea on theforce.net but it is not meant to be. Palpatine is extremely powerful in his trickery. He's supposedly going to wave his hand in front of his face and show the Jedi his illusion near the end of EPISODE III showing his true face; that of the decrepid Emperor last seen in RETURN OF THE JEDI.
Re:E Online's Description.... (Score:1)
hm... to ruin the third movie or not...
nah, I think i woudl rather let you think your onto something here
Re:E Online's Description.... (Score:3, Funny)
They probably fell asleep during the movie. And can you blame them?
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Clone of the animatrix! (Score:3, Insightful)
In a great galaxy, many years ago
The desire for more money took over the universe...
Re:Clone of the animatrix! (Score:1)
i thought the same thing when i heard about it. they are kind of doing it early though, the next one comes out in 2005.
does anyone remember the boba fet cartoon that came out in the 70s or 80s? that was badass
Re:Clone of the animatrix! (Score:1)
Animatrix = DVD/Video
This = TV program
Sure, it's still raking in money, but at least it's the television networks, and not us, paying for it.
Re:Clone of the animatrix! (Score:2)
Re:Clone of the animatrix! (Score:2)
Sheesh. Mixing media isn't anything NEW. Do you remember the fantastic Batman Animated Series which followed the successful Batman movie? Or perhaps the watchable Real Ghostbusters cartoon which followed the movies of the same name?
Animatrix wasn't anything NEW (and for my money, wasn't anything interesting, aside from the quality backstory of "The Second Renaissance"). The only thing it had going for it was that
Can't wait... (Score:1)
Two to three minutes? (Score:2)
Nothing like blipvids to make your brain explode, eh?
Re:Two to three minutes? (Score:2)
Great. (Score:2)
three minutes? (Score:1)
Lucas isn't getting another penny of mine after that sad commercialized ripoff.
huh? (Score:2)
I am ohly going to watch it if..... (Score:2)
it has Jedi Master Porky Pig.
Re:I am ohly going to watch it if..... (Score:2)
Perfect Name (Score:2)
Wow Cartoons (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:Wow Cartoons (Score:2)
Re:Wow Cartoons (Score:2)
Make it stop! (Score:2)
Re:Make it stop! (Score:2)
Actually, the animated section of the Star Wars Holiday Special was probably the only good part. It introduced the world to our favorite bounty hunter, Boba Fett.
It has possibility... (Score:1)
Tartakovsky definately has a passion for action (yep, that's what the VH1 show said [repeatedly]). My best example is this: just listen to an episode of Samurai Jack and hear how much of it is dialogue, and how much is noises (slash, grunt) and music? (I think the
Re:It has possibility... (Score:2)
However, when I hear that someone is an english major, I get a subconscious "yellow flag" that says, "Warning: Incoming Bullshit Alert! Take evasive action!"
Well, that or, "Yes, i would like some fries with that."
-Ab
ps. It's sarcasm, or, to quote Homer, "It's funny 'cause it's true..."
Stirking Similarities (Score:2)
The Empire is better than the Jedi (Score:2)
The Jedi are kind of on the clueless side, after all. Their tactical decisions suck.
Links to Preview & random bitching (Score:3, Informative)
Large - 320 x 240 [theforce.net] Small - 240 x 180 [theforce.net]
I've just gotta chime in that 2 to 3 minute toons are definately not enough, when I first heard of this I thought it was going to be a real cartoon not just filler. Too bad they didn't take the opportunity to use the savings from making cartoons instead of live action in order to actually flesh out the Star Wars universe. For the price of Ep1&2 they could probably turn every book ever written about SW into a damn cartoon. (Except "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" by Alan Dean Foster of course) Just wonderful, it'll probably be shoved in-between other cartoons during Toonami, meaning I won't see it until someone puts it up on one of the bittorrent or emule sites. Cartoon Yoda looks great tho!
Jonah Hex
Re:Links to Preview & random bitching (Score:2)
I've just gotta chime in that 2 to 3 minute toons are definately not enough
Actually, they are.
I was at ComiCon (sp) in San Diego this year, and they had a panel discussion with Genndy and his team about "Clone Wars". The quote I remember is, "You can do a lot in three minutes." In order to figure out pacing, they spliced together Samurai Jack footage to see how much of an episode they could stuff into three minutes. Turns out, they could fit quite a lot. One of Genndy's strengths is being able to
I can't wait (Score:2, Interesting)
I think Genndy Tartakovsky was a great choice to make these shorts because he has a great handle on stylish animated action. Watching "Samurai Jack" also reminds me of a lot of anime notably "Rurouni Kenshin" with the split screen action and cinematic framings.
In an interview Tartakovsky said that he made "Samurai Jack" largely because there weren't enough animated shows with enough action to satisfy his
Something Yoda must've learned... (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm only going to watch it... (Score:2)
star trek cartoon (Score:2)
Re:star trek cartoon (Score:2)
I for one welcome.... (Score:2)
Mind you, I'd much rather have a live action Knights of the Old Republic series.
Troll, troll, troll your boat. . . (Score:2)
Those of us in the know, know that Lucas has but a small part in Immanentzing the Eschaton. Fnord !
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:2)
Gave me a chuckle
A more intelligent objection to Star Wars... (Score:2)
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:4, Insightful)
"We will continue to fight these terrorists, and the rogue governments who harbor them, until the universe is safe, once and for all, and the security of the Neo-New Cosmic Order ensured."
It was one year ago today that the Death Star, perhaps the greatest symbol of the Empire's might, was destroyed in an attack by fanatic Rebels, who used small, single-person crafts to infiltrate seemingly impenetrable defenses. Thousands of mourners were on hand to remember and pay tribute to the victims and their families.
"We lost our innocence that day," reflected one mourner. "I guess we thought we were immune from the kind of violence that happens in other galaxies. We were wrong."
"I lost hundreds of buddies that day," said one teary-eyed Stormtrooper. "Guys whose only crime was trying make the Universe a safer place." Although the day was colored by sadness, the mourners found some relief in the news of a decisive victory over the Rebels.
In an attack led by Darth Vader, Empire forces were able to rout hundreds of Rebels from a network of caves underneath the surface of the planet Hoth. "We're not sure we got them all," says a Vader spokesman. "There are a lot of places to hide in those caves. But we've delivered a powerful blow to the terrorist's infrastructure, that's for sure. Today, the Empire has struck back."
Initial reports are unclear as to the fate of Luke Skywalker, a hero among the Rebels, who is rumored to have delivered the fatal blow to the Death Star. Skywalker, a former desert-dweller from the planet Tattooine, became a part of the Rebellion after family members were killed. Skywalker was trained by a militant wing of the Rebels, known as "Jedi Knights." Fanatical in their religious beliefs, the Jedi Knights claim to derive their power from the mystical "Force."
It's believed that Skywalker was specifically trained by infamous terrorist O bin Wankanobi. Wankanobi, occasionally called "Ben" and easily recognized by his bearded visage and long, flowing robes, achieved near-martyr status among the Rebels after his death last year during a spy mission. His more fervent followers believe that Wankanobi lives on within them today, some even claiming to hear his voice during times of duress.
The attack on the Death Star came shortly after the Empire's destruction of Alderstaan, a planet whose government was known to harbor terrorists. Responding to criticism over the total annihilation of the planet, Vader stated, "There is no middle ground in the War on Terror. Those who harbor terrorists are terrorists themselves. Alderaan was issued ample warning. The fight for continuing Freedom is often burdened by terrible cost." The cost of this war can still be seen today in the continuing efforts to build a coalition government on Tattooine. Longstanding animosities among the planets various ethnic groups, including the Jawas, Tusken Raiders and scattered human settlers, have been an impediment to the peace process. The Empire continues to maintain a small peace keeping force until a provisional government is finally in place.
Much of the difficulty in fighting the Rebel forces stems from their lack of a central organizing structure. "They don't play by the traditional rules of war," complained one spokesman. "They come in all shapes and sizes, united only by their single-minded desire to destroy the Empire before it destroys them."
The Emperor closed his comments today by stating that "the cowardly attack n the Death Star left a deep scar on the Empire. However, we will not stop fighting until every last evildoer has been brought to justice." He paused for several moments, wiping away a tear and then added with determination, "We will never forget."
"I wish we could all just get along," said one of the mourners. "But it's hard to offer an olive branch to a cult of religious fanatics whose main tool is violence and who insist on calling us the Dark Side."
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:2)
Funny, Instightful. Either way, please mod this through the roof.
Good show buddy.
wbs.
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:2)
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:1)
I wish I had mod points.
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:2)
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:2)
So many loyal soldiers lost, fighing for the goodness of the empire.... that sort of thing.
I haven't read this myself but have seen references to it on the SW official site.
It's kind of cool when you think about it... seeing the movie, you wouldn't immediately think that something as horrendus as the Death Star would be mourned. However, if you start to think about that t
Re:Starwars sends the wrong message, I'm afraid (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:ahhhh who cares (Score:1)
Re:ahhhh who cares (Score:2)
Even beginning to compare this drivel to the other movies is insane.
Re:defining terrorism (Score:2)