'Star Wars: Clone Wars' Premieres Tonight 238
securitas writes "The Cartoon Network is about to premiere a new series of animated shorts based on the Star Wars prequels. The series comes from Genndy Tartakovsky (Samurai Jack, Dexter's Lab) and debuts Friday Nov. 7 at 8PM Eastern Time. One correction: The USA Today article is incorrect in saying that 'Clone Wars marks the first animated series to involve any of the saga's leading characters.' That distinction goes to Nelvana's Droids, which followed the adventures of R2D2 and C3PO."
Canada? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Heh... (Score:2)
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In other news... (Score:2, Insightful)
"The more you tighten your grip, George, the more fans and their money will slip through your fingers."
YAWN (Score:2, Insightful)
YAWN^2 (Score:2)
Actually, it's so old, that complaints like yours are really old. ;-)
And call me cynical, but I'm guessing Lucas was trying to make money when he released the very first Star Wars.
Re:YAWN^2 (Score:2)
This first Star Wars was EXCELLENT and the foundation of a worldwide genuine 20th Century mytholical system that makes money even today. Empire was really really good and a worthy continuation of the first. Jedi, was, let's face facts...a LETDOWN! Needed to cap off the first trilogy, but unwatchable in any o
Good analysis, minor points (Score:2)
They got kicked out of their home, one of them got frozen, and the other lost a hand. The end scene was them all sitting there licking their wounds and hoping for a come back.
The third one sufferred from
Re:YAWN^2 (Score:2)
How do you kock a cock?
> Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
Man, I got a friggin lameness catch because of a quote. Geesh.
Damn straight justice has prevailed... (Score:2)
I can't get back the 3 hours I lost watching "Episode 1: The Ph
children (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:children (Score:2)
News for Nerds. Stuff in theaters. (Score:2, Insightful)
Another movie article?
Could we have a SCO post please?
Re:News for Nerds. Stuff in theaters. (Score:2)
Yeah, let's drive around the block a few more times.
not FP: real content! : (Score:3, Interesting)
20 3-minute episodes works out to 1 hour of content. and just think: too short for commercial breaks!
i'm curious to see just how long it takes cartoon network to air all 20 episodes. if they space 'em out from tonight all the way through until ep3 debuts, i'm gonna be cranky.
ed
Re:not FP: real content! : (Score:2, Informative)
Re:not FP: real content! : (Score:2)
Christmas Special (Score:5, Informative)
The animated bet was the best bit (Score:2)
The horror. Don't remind me about that!
Actually, the Bobba Fett story line was the best bit.
You win the geekiest award.
Re:Christmas Special (Score:2)
While we're at it, let's all go rent these tonight: The Ewok Adventure [imdb.com] and Ewoks: The Battle for Endor [imdb.com].
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hecubas
Re:Christmas Special (Score:3, Interesting)
I've got a broadcast->VCR->DiVX copy of it. It's also got all of the original commercial breaks. Found it on Kazaa a while back. I guess it's legit since it has all the ads, right?
Re:Christmas Special (Score:2)
Do you mean "loving Ewok family"? I didn't think the Wookies lived in trees.
Re:Christmas Special (Score:2)
Here [badmovieplanet.com] is a breakdown of what transpires. Keep in mind, Lucas was just trying to generate some holiday revenue. Expect little consistency with what happens in this thing and what goes on in the rest of the SW Universe.
And yes, wookies live in trees. I know, I know, intelligent, civilized bipeds with fully developed thumbs still living in trees. I, personally, would have liked to see wookies asorbing all the bad qualities of their human counter-parts. Enslav
Re:Christmas Special (Score:2)
But a huge victory for the rest of us.
Ewoks were the Jar-Jars of the original series.
Re:Christmas Special (Score:4, Funny)
If you ever doubted that drugs were bad (Score:2)
Dumb Journalists (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Dumb Journalists (Score:2)
While I don't recall the xmas one, I don't consider the droids or the Ewoks to be leading characters.
Were Tank & wussizname (his bro) leading characters in The Matrix? No, they happened to be part of the lead group, but not lead characters. I know that's a stretch of an argument, but it's a similar idea. I'm not trying to justify the writer's false statement, just trying to point out that, in a sense, he was right.
Re:Christmas Special (Score:2)
A) He had yet to appear in ANY star wars film when the animated sequence for the Christmas Special was shown (it occurred between Star Wars and Empire.
B) HE originally was intended to be a minor character (in the original release of Empire he was known only as "The Bounty Hunter"). HE wasn't referred to as Boba Fett until Jedi.
Of course now that Lucas has inserted Boba Fett into every damn movie in the s
Re:Christmas Special (Score:2)
Yes, the poster mistated that. But he omitted that the animation featured every major character (Luke, Han, robots, Vader... everyone cept maybe that dead old guy). So it counts as having major characters.
in the original release of Empire he was known only as "The Bounty Hunter"
He can't have been "The Bounty Hunter", because he in first scene there were 3 other bounty hunters milling around.
Re:Christmas Special (Score:2)
-Shieldwolf
A few things (Score:5, Insightful)
Can anyone really say that when they heard about the Clone Wars in "A New Hope" they didnt have visions of some epic battle? Since most of the dogfights, etc were modelled after WWII film footage, I had always thought we would be in for something as grand and epic as WWII itself.
Instead, we get some whiney brat (who cant act), a love story which both doesnt seem likely and isnt interesting, and a completely cliched movie which only appeals to five-year-olds.
Anyway, [/rant] and [/preaching to chior].
Re:A few things (Score:2)
Re:A few things (Score:2)
Even having over an hour of material doesnt change the fact that each separate bite doesnt probably cant (or wont) make an overall story.
I guess we will have to wait and see, but my rant was more that I wish this kind of thing had been included in the movie, rather than needed to be a supplimental 'advertisment'
Re:A few things (Score:2)
As for the cartoon: they aren't little stories for each episode, it's three or so big stories broken up into episodes. I want to say that the three stories break into one for Anakin, one for Obi-wan and one for Kit Fisto (or, at least, that's how the website seems to set it up). So you are getting different characters
Re:A few things (Score:2)
Yea, the 50-60 million people (yes people, not soldiers) killed or wounded in WWII was absolutely "grand and epic."
Re:7200 Series Only! (Score:2)
I think WW II definitely qualifies as that.
Grand???
Re:A few things (Score:2)
In all of human history, the key events where those involving the loss of human life (and generally the more killed the higher the importance). So if you have a problem with my statements, you should take it up with historians, and not with me.
Re:A few things (Score:2)
First man in space/on the moon?
Re:A few things (Score:2)
Re:A few things (Score:2)
One can say those two events, while not directly influenced by bloodshed, had quite a bit of it leading up to them.
While there are quite a bit of things which are noteworth which are not violent (Intel creating the first microprocessor, landing on the moon, etc), people tend to resonate with strife. History is more of an action film.
Re:A few things (Score:2)
The Second Renaissance was a cornerstone of the story of The Matrix, yet was released as two 10-minute shorts. It also happened to be better than the sequel proper for the movie.
Honestly, with the quality of the last two Star Wars films, I'd rather have to digest them in 5 minute chunks than all in one sitting. That way the cliches and jarringly
How long will it take before they are posted... (Score:3, Insightful)
Since we're taking about 20, 3-minute episodes, I'm guessing the first one will be available for download on fan sites and Usenet only minutes after it airs. I think I'll just wait for that.
Ruger
Re:How long will it take before they are posted... (Score:2)
funny thing is that from some series there sometimes appear even pre-air releases...
anyways, i find it very boring to wait for months if a series is aired here(so i don't wait, how can they make money from such viewers? product placement is only thing i can think of, and making products that make $$ from the fans of course)
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Milking the franchise (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, mod this flamebait if you will...
I loved the original trilogy when I was a kid. I can still watch it, but it seems so 'thin' to me now.
I went to see SW:TPM with high hopes. 1)An extended pod race to advertise a video game. 2)Jar-jar - need I say more?
I went to see SW:AotC because my wife made me. Follow the bouncing Yoda!
I will NOT be seeing the next bit of crap to be extracted from a toilet and thrown up on the big screen, and I'm not going to make any effort to see these cartoons.
Re:Milking the franchise (Score:2)
I popped it into my home theater and found myself bored silly for the next 2 hours. I have a hard time believing that DVD was even THX certified, as there were a boat-load of artifacts in some scenes. They really should have made it a 2 DVD set and not try to stick the movie and all the
Re:Milking the franchise (Score:2)
That's odd. My copy of Star Wars episode 2 is on two DVDs. I do have the full-screen version though rather than widescreen (I didn't buy it, it was a xmas gift). I didn't notice too much in the way of artifacts on either disc.
Re:Milking the franchise (Score:2)
Meh. (Score:2)
On the other hand, look at the trend going into the 3rd Matrix. Not good.
Re:Meh. (Score:2)
--OTOH, I liked all 3 Matrix movies - 3rd is the best IMHO.
(shrug) Takes all kinds, I guess.
Huh. (Score:2)
Maybe his top half will return for Episode III.
Re:The movies haven't gotten worse . . . (Score:2)
It is not just nostalgia that makes me want to see the old, first SW movies again and again. It is because they actually are very good examples of fine moviemaking.
The ambiance, that feeling of magic throughout the movies is very hard to beat.
And the prequels come nowhere near to touching that ambience.
No, it is not because I've become older that I detested the prequels - it is because they mostly are soulless, pretentious excuses for movies, comprised of computer generated backgroun
Re:The movies haven't gotten worse . . . (Score:2)
This is a common responce to this type of criticism. Even George Lucas himself uses it to dismiss criticism of his recent Star Wars films. The arugment esentially claims that any fondness of the older series over the new is simply due to nostalgia. I don't buy it.
Don't get me wrong - I'm a sucker for nostalgia myself. I wouldn't be watching VH1's "I Love the 80's" series so much if I were immune to it. But I do recognize it and its
Star Wars Holiday Special (Score:4, Interesting)
Boba Farce (Score:2, Interesting)
A major cog in the Star Wars revenue generation machine over the years, but Boba has the lowest screen time to action figure sales ratio in the history of merchandising.
Boba could be editted out of the original trilogy w/o imacting the story line any more than the Solo/Greedo cantina shootout re-write.
Expectations over here... (Score:4, Insightful)
Let's just hope the storytelling delivers... To be honest, I've not been too disappointed in the past.
Re:Expectations over here... (Score:2)
Yeah, right along side with a jedi named Jack who kept ranting about some guy named Haku.
I'm a little disappointed that bulk of the Clone Wars isn't going to be in the films, but if they had to pick an animator, Tartakovsky is the man. He brings a lot of soul to the art of animation, and I have a feeling his Star Wars series will be just as memorable as the original trilogy.
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hecubas
Re:Expectations over here... (Score:5, Insightful)
I would call many of the scenes/episodes of Samurai Jack beautiful any day, no need to compare it to generic Disney stuff.
Tartakosky may be minimalistic, but this minimalism can be very beatiful.
Re:Expectations over here... (Score:2)
IMO, in spite (or perhaps because?) of its simplicity, Samurai Jack is the most beautiful, spellbinding animated series on Cartoon Network.
Or any other network for that matter...
Tartakovsky rules (Score:2)
His other [tvtome.com] series [tvtome.com] are no slouch either.
Re:Expectations over here... (Score:2)
Actually, I would. But then again, I've been underimpressed with Disney since Ashman died. I wouldn't compare Tartakovsky to Disney but to Chuck Jones and Tex Avery.
Re:Expectations over here... (Score:2)
or is that cels of clones?
All the star wars movies are about R2-D2 (Score:5, Funny)
Re:All the star wars movies are about R2-D2 (Score:2, Funny)
You say that now, but this is Lucas we are talking about. I think it far more likely that by the time we get the original trilogy on DVD that R2 will have THX sound to go with his IMAX sized hologram and jet out of the Dagobah swamp.
Re:All the star wars movies are about R2-D2 (Score:2)
The official Star Wars site had a series of web pages with news stories from the Star Wars universe. One of the blurbs was about the product recall of the leg jets for R2 series astromech droids.
So I'm not the only one... (Score:2)
[yeah, yeah, I know, it's hard to operate on yourself, but well, he also hangs out with other R2 units, so he could get one of them to fix him]
And don't try to tell me that he took them out to make room for the cupcake.
Re:All the star wars movies are about R2-D2 (Score:2)
Re:All the star wars movies are about R2-D2 (Score:2)
I can't think of any point in the movies that Obi Wan meets 3P0; in TPM he stays on the Queen's ship while Qui Gon winds up in Aniken's home. In AOTC, he's on Geonosis, while Aniken and Amidala wind up on Tattooine.
[ot] nickname (Score:2)
Re:All the star wars movies are about R2-D2 (Score:2)
leading characters (Score:2)
Uh... not point out your droid fetish but, uh... aren't those guys 'robots' and while I'll admit humorous and alternatively heroic and comic, not exactly "leading characters".
Oh man, I'm gonna get toasted over this one...
Re:leading characters (Score:2)
But to me, characters don't just "participate", "narrate", or even "lead". The point of a character is to develop. 3PO and R2 do not develop in any sense -- they are exactly the same "characters" througout the trilogy. We don't learn anything about their feelings or motivations -- because they don't have any! They are programmed machines!
Don't forget the Star Wars Christmas Special... (Score:2)
Re:Don't forget the Star Wars Christmas Special... (Score:2)
No, he was hunting the magic amulet of invisibility. His employer was Vader, not Jabba.
Don't you mean.... (Score:3, Funny)
Don't you mean the Genndy Tartakovsky Network? It seems like he makes every single show on CN. Well, except for the good ones.
Re:Don't you mean.... (Score:2)
What is wrong with you, man!
Re:Don't you mean.... (Score:2)
Dexter, the powerpuff girls, samurai jack...
Is there anything better?
Re:Don't you mean.... (Score:2)
Aaahh, Bizarro, bizarro bizarro bizarro. Bizarro, biz.. *WHACK*
My friends were doing that all last week, and it gets annoying real fast. Not that the cartoon wasn't funny, but the annoyance was the humor with that one. Unfortunately some people (IRL, of course) like to make references to things like that OVER and OVER and OVER... Makes me wanna grab my sub-machine. (Another obscure reference for you)
Remember the Ewoks theme song? (Score:2, Funny)
E/
E/
E/
E-woks/
From the forest grove/
(E-e-e-e-e-woks!)"
Yeah... I'm glad that's chewing up storage in my brain when I have trouble remembering my new cell number
I'm even sadder (Score:2)
It went
"We are the E E E E E E Ewoks!"
I think I'll go shoot myself now.
Typical Genndy stuff (Score:2)
Re:Typical Genndy stuff (Score:2)
Luckily, there is only two seasons to this (20 EPS). Maybe Lucas read your mind & realized you were right.
Also, I still like Samurai Jack.
Re:Typical Genndy stuff (Score:2)
it *must* be better than the movies (Score:2)
Times for UK Viewers (Score:2)
It's on at 16:00, 17:00, 18:00 and 19:00
The next episode is on Tuesday at
07:00, 08:00, 16:00, 17:00, 18:00 and 19:00
and it seems to continue like that every weekday after that.
Detail time (Score:2)
First animated?! (Score:2)
Star Wars Holiday Special FAQ (Score:2, Interesting)
Take heed:
That pretty much says it all. Maybe someone should post some good link about Post-Traumatic Strees Syndrome for those of use who have seen it.
401 comments on LOTR and 164 on Star Wars, we ... (Score:3, Informative)
Now that it has appeared (Score:2)
Re:THE ANIDEATHSTAR (Score:2)
Re:THE ANIDEATHSTAR (Score:2)
Re:Starwars Animated Series (Score:2)
The Star Wars Holiday Special! [salon.com]
If this doesn't have 20 minutes of unintelligible wookie-jabber, I'll be sorely disappointed.
Re:Ewoks (Score:2)
Re:Ewoks (Score:2)
Re:What? (Score:3, Funny)
I guess I should stop posting my fantasies here.
Re:R2 and 3PO are supporting characters. (Score:2)
While I can see your point, that R2 and 3PO are pushed to the side in many places, it then becomes the question of what exactly is your meaning of a supporting character?
Is it simply a device which is contrived mainly to further the plot or to pad scenes? Is it based on overall screen time?
I'll give you 3PO as a supporting character, he just bitches, but not R2, he serves just as big a part as t
Re:DVD (Score:2)
it's a lost art..shorts...one they wanted to try again!
Re:DVD (Score:2)
Gary who? Do you mean Genndy, or is there a Gary that does something else?
Re:star wards sucks (Score:2)