Slashback: Matrix, Terminology, Topology 179
Well, it's robust, stable and handy for networking tasks ... Linux and Unix users may be justifiably smug about our machines' resistance to viruses and trogans (including ones that send spam), since most of these things are aimed at Microsoft Windows. Maybe it should be no surprise that spammers like Linux, too:
Niels Provos writes "You might remember Honeyd? I have been using it since June to capture spam emails in an attempt to better understand how spammers operate. A recent feature in Honeyd is passive fingerprinting which allows Honeyd to passively identify the operating system that contacts it. For spammers, it turns out that about 43% seem to be running Linux. And mostly Unix, Windows ranks at around 0.7%. The unknown fraction is 52%, so there might be surprises lurking there."
Apple products must be ripened before consumption. Ipodlounge.com editor Dennis Lloyd was one of several readers to note that, rather than the November date named in the recent 2-year iPod retrospective in the New York Times, the device came out just a bit earlier. "The iPod's anniversary was in October ;) The iPod was officially launched on Oct. 23, 2001. The NYT article is incorrect."
May the tide be with you. Doc Searls writes: "Thought I'd direct your attention to the first half of a transcription of the talk Linus gave on the September Geek Cruise that got Slashdotted a few weeks ago. Can't find the link to the Slashdot item, but as i recall it didn't have the benefit of a real transcription." (Here's the Slashdot post about the cruise.) "This one is not only a full transcription (by yours truly, all disclaimers apply), but features pix of his slides and demos as well."
Searls also has up the second part: "That's the Q&A, which is even longer than the prepared part of the talk," as well as the third: "The third part is a transcription of a talk Linus and others gave to the Victoria Linux Users Group. Shorter than the first two."
Searls' three-part report on the cruise itself ran in Linux Journal.
This way to the Egress! Rick Chapman, author of the recently reviewed In Search of Stupidity , writes to point out that book excerpts are available at insearchofstupdity.com, along with some of the book's illustrations.
"Also, I recently was interviewed live on a local CT business show and I've had the session digitized and am mounting on the site today. It runs about 45 minutes and I discuss a lot of the stuff in the book as well as other issues revolving around software marketing and development. ... I have a lot of samples of really bad things I brought to the taping and I think you'll get a kick out of the session."
They should sell nice prints to buy bandwidth. An anonymous reader writes "From the New Scientist article: A project to create a comprehensive graphical representation of the Internet in just one day and using only a single computer has already produced some eye-catching images."
Back pedal, back pedal, baker's man, cover that label with tape if you can. Mr. Slippery writes "According to this Yahoo! News story, L.A. County did not ban the use of 'master' and 'slave' in labeling, but made more of a polite request to vendors. A subtle but important distinction.
'"I do understand that this term has been an industry standard for years and years and this is nothing more than a plea to vendors to see what they can do," said Joe Sandoval, division manager of purchasing and contract services. "It appears that some folks have taken this a little too literally."' (As, perhaps, did those who got offended in the first place...)"
The original memo called Master and Slave labels "not acceptable" -- how non-literally can that be taken? -- and as further news stories have reported, was prompted by an employee's workplace discrimination complaint against the city. That sounds to me like more than a polite request. At least the city has found that a little tape is enough to make the world safe from misinterpreted words.
I bet Bill is a better actor than Keanu. Karma Sucks writes "After some embarrassing PR backlash it seems as if Microsoft is clamping down on distribution of pictures or videos related to the Matrix Spoof that featured Linux and Windows at COMDEX. Even more interesting are the reports that Microsoft is systematically scouting Open Source desktop technology."
And this is what percentage of the industry's profits? dlh writes "Boston.com is reporting that a federal judge Thursday approved a $143 million settlement of a lawsuit that accused major record companies and large music retailers of conspiring to set minimum music prices."
Time to get a new watch. Krellis writes "DynDNS.org, a major dynamic DNS provider, has announced that they will shut off access to any customers using the Linksys WRT54G wireless router to update their service on December 8th unless the router is patched. See the story on ExtremeTech and the DynDNS Press Release for more details. Updated firmware can be downloaded from Linksys."
Linux and Spammers (Score:5, Insightful)
Hmm spitroastedspammers.com
Rus
Re:Linux and Spammers (Score:1)
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Re:Linux and Spammers (Score:2)
My money's on misconfigured sendmail installations (Score:5, Interesting)
And you stop, pat yourself on the back, and don't change anything when it starts working. But what if that change was that got it to work was, well, relay for all? Whoops.
Then there's the unpatched systems that get r00ted and turned into spam zombies.
I don't think the spammers are installing linux that much. (At least not the BIG ones, and they may be knowledgable/paranoid enough to go with OpenBSD or something) The majority probably got some Alienware rig bought off a stolen CC, running a cracked 2003 server. It's just that they offload the mail to some other cracked Unix host to do the work. That doesn't surprise me.
Re:My money's on misconfigured sendmail installati (Score:1)
Most spammers use *BSD. Most of them don't know their ass from a hole in the ground... they just install it, and buy a script and a few lists, and fire away.
Re:My money's on misconfigured sendmail installati (Score:4, Insightful)
I doubt that. Spammers hire very tech-savy people, and I would imagine they also pay them very well. The 'dark side', indeed.
Honestly, it doesnt surprise me that spammers are using Linux; they dont have to concern themselves with licensing issues, it gives them better profit margins, better remote management (especially when most spammer's have their operations outside the USA), etc.
Also, I find it curious that you claim the majority of Linux servers which are doing the spam are 'compromised' systems. That would basically make MS machines the safest ones on the net, if we go by the article's statistics...
Re:My money's on misconfigured sendmail installati (Score:3)
That is assuming that the crackability of any particular linux system running vs. a windows system is somehow dependant on the likelyhood of any particular instance of that OS running a mail server. I will go out on a limb and claim that linux boxes visible to the Internet are 100 tim
Re:My money's on misconfigured sendmail installati (Score:2)
So again, if you are saying the majority of those Linux boxes are 'compromised' machines, than Linux security is FAR worse than that of Windows. But honestly it wouldnt surprise me; unless somebody had gotten bold and cracked Debian, there would
Re:Linux and Spammers (Score:4, Funny)
Yep, time to start rewriting SpamAssassin as a kernel patch.
They should sell prints... (Score:5, Informative)
Not that I have anything against that - they're very pretty, and they're entitled to sell them as much as they want
Simon
But what it needs... (Score:5, Funny)
"Hey, I can see my node from here!"
Re:But what it needs... (Score:2)
Then I remembered the
So, if you were
Soko
Internet topology (Score:4, Interesting)
I would be very grateful if anyone could point me in te right direction.
Re:Internet topology (Score:5, Informative)
What happened with Traceroute (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What happened with Traceroute (Score:3, Interesting)
It's a form of compression, like Huffman coding. Frequently used commands get short names, rarely used commands get longer names. In that context, the Unix naming conventions mostly make sense.
Re:Internet topology (Score:2)
Most of the Internet maps you see don't even use their two dimensions to represent space. In order to minimize intersecting lines, they put nodes that are only a few hops from each other close together on the map. In other words the horizontal and vertical axes are meaningless.
Re:Internet topology (Score:2)
You won't be able to see the individual lines with that much scaling down, but it would probably at least show some interesting and recognizable patterns.
Master/Slave taken too literaly? (Score:4, Funny)
Mirror (Score:5, Funny)
Filerush has it (Score:5, Informative)
Mirror mirror on the wall (Score:5, Informative)
Here's a direct mirror to the video [indtech.edu]
WMF - buggerit. (Score:2)
Re:WMF - buggerit. (Score:2)
Re:Filerush has it (Score:2)
Is this the video, or is there a more complete/better quality one going around? I'd love to get to see more of this.
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Re:Filerush has it (Score:2)
Re:Filerush has it (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Filerush has it (Score:2)
It'd be great if somebody could convert it to mpeg and repost it
Re:Filerush has it (Score:2)
Re:Mirror (Score:2, Funny)
Trogans? (Score:5, Funny)
I guess Linux is resistant to those dreaded "spell checkers," too.
Re:Trogans? (Score:2, Funny)
Perhaps it meant to say "trogons [m-w.com]", though exactly what hazard is brought about by Central American birds I haven't figured out yet.
And this is what percentage... (Score:3)
Probably quite considerably less than they've managed to milk people for by conpiring to artificially inflate prices and create an illegal monopoly in the first place. What is the average annual profit of the RIAA?
Re:And this is what percentage... (Score:3, Informative)
When I saw that map of the Internet (Score:5, Interesting)
Gorgeous. It's on one of my KDE desktops now.
Re:When I saw that map of the Internet (Score:2)
Rus
Re:When I saw that map of the Internet (Score:5, Informative)
Bus is for most things the worst, because everyone shares one connection, to everyone else.
Ring topologies (think token ring) pass things through the intermediate computers, and take reduce the bandwidth to each.
Star is by far the most common, and is arguably the best, because each computer has the full bandwidth available to it, to talk to other computers, presuming of course that each of them isn't already saturated. Hubs are examples of star network topologies.
Mesh topologies are very interesting. Seen on high performance clusters, where each computer can hit another with a jump or two (token ring like) when directly connected, or in wifi. Wireless mesh networks (rare, and usually rather custom & experemental currently) act in a way similar to a star network for the most part, but if something is out of range it contacts a node that can see it's target, and passes the information (or a series of nodes). I would really, really like to see a standard supporting this over all OSes. Currently most setups I have seen on the internet require an all (patched) linux setup to work, but can have other clients connect to it.
Gorgeous (Score:2)
Where's google?
I honestly think google should be visually recognizable on such a map.
Never mind, I just realized that it's a hop map, not a link map. I would expect both google and slashdot (and perhaps memepool) to be recognizable on a link map.
Don't ban the Matrix! (Score:5, Funny)
But it was better than either of the "official" Matrix equals
Re:Don't ban the Matrix! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Don't ban the Matrix! (Score:2)
Except they got it backwards.
MS = Blue Pill
Linux = Red Pill
Political correctness (Score:1, Informative)
Help! Help! I'm being opressed!
Re:Political correctness (Score:1)
Re:Political correctness (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Political correctness (Score:5, Funny)
We prefer the term 'epidermally challenged.'
That's what I'm Tolkien about (Score:5, Interesting)
Now see... a lot of Slashdot folk, when they say "too much time on their hands," they're talking about G4s being made into aquariums, or dropping thousands of rubber balls down a stairwell, or ganging up to kill an unkillable Everquest monster, or something.
When I think of "too much time on their hands" I think of these people.
Re:That's what I'm Tolkien about (Score:2)
OPTE Project (the pretty Internet Maps) :) (Score:5, Interesting)
We've been extended a very generous bandwidth offer that will greatly benefit our project. However we're now also looking for a beefier box to run this stuff on.
We have made some "under the hood" technology changes and now have this theoretically scanning the entire net in 13 hours, leaving approximately 11 hours for rendering the image.
We're looking to either raise enough capital to purchase a 2-4 way machine with 4GB ram, or have a nice vendor (*cough* dell, HP/Compaq, Apple, etc) step up and donate one for us.
We should have T-Shirts and other paraphernalia ready to purchase sometime in the next week or so. If the machine donation doesn't come through, we'll take the cash from the merchandise sales to pay for it.
Thank you again everyone for your interest, your participation, and most of all your support.
-= The OPTE Team =-
http://www.opte.org
Efnet IRC: #opte
press@opte.org
Spam (Score:1, Insightful)
Windows=more anonymous then?
which scouting are you talking about? (Score:1, Troll)
From Dictionary.com
scout
( P ) Pronunciation Key (skout) v. scouted, scouting, scouts v. tr. 1. To spy on or explore carefully in order to obtain information; reconnoiter. 2. To observe and evaluate (a talented person), as for possible hiring.
To reject with disdain or derision. See Synonyms at despise.
Internet Pic. (Score:2, Interesting)
Perhaps a toroid? or some other more esoteric geometrical shape that can at least imply an infinite loop.
Their picture makes it look like there is a "center" (although I guess a case could be made for their computer creating the image as the center)
Re:Internet Pic. (Score:2, Insightful)
If I remember my math correctly, a sphere, although it has a finite surface, has no boundries.
Re:Internet Pic. (Score:2)
This is the best Matrix topology. (Score:2, Funny)
Damn this thing is funny (Score:2)
It should be called the "iCum" or something like that
Now, here's the important question.... Can it be controlled remotely over the internet?
Re:Damn this thing is funny (Score:3, Interesting)
However, I was just informed by a friend that there are models that are capable of being controlled by the computer, and include software for remote usage. I don't know if this is accurate or not, and I'm not going to google for something like this from my work machine. Anyone?
Re:Damn this thing is funny (Score:2, Funny)
http://cyber-vibe.com/ [cyber-vibe.com]
It even says it is programmable. Someone is going to install BSD on it, I just know it.
Re:Damn this thing is funny (Score:2)
bsd? shit, i'll install linux on it.
Re:Damn this thing is funny (Score:2)
1. Create WLAN-equipped vibrator.
2. Market on Slashdot
3. ????
4. Profit!!!!
can anyone post a summary of matrix spoof? (Score:1)
Re:can anyone post a summary of matrix spoof? (Score:2)
>sumarize the remainder of the 'spoof'?
Don't worry; this is the company that brought you the "Holloween Documents"
It'll be leaked by someone at MS any day now.
Master and Slave (Score:1)
Oh, that "master" and "slave".
I guess it all depends on where your mind is. That's not the "master" and "slave" I think of when I hear "master" and "slave"...I was thinking more along the lines of, say, "dom" and "sub" which hardly offends anybody.
Re:Master and Slave (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Master and Slave (Score:2)
I think we have our replacement terms for the words now...
Oh, and I can think of a rather large number of people that would be offensive to (extreme right wing "Christians", overly left wing feminists, etc).
I guess the big question is -- which one gets put in the leather drive jacket?
i would think linux is 100% (Score:1)
Perhaps the spam industry is run by the PHB as well, and the demand for 100% MS, no matter what, is just a prevalent.
Linux Spammers (Score:5, Informative)
I finally traced it back to an older CGI script on the server that had a few bugs. Luckily they only had access to the
Jason
the matrix (Score:2)
Re:the matrix (Score:2)
'Course!
It's object-oriented!
You wouldn't lump all the code for a tree, a dog and the wind into one jumble, would you? It'd be way too hard to upgrade those entities.
You'd describe objects, and give them characteristics, behaviours.
That's what I think was driving Smith crazy; his programming didn't let him understand free-will, only programmed purpose.
Programming is as its name states; wholly deterministic.
Humans choose.
Machines are unable to choose.
Re:the matrix (Score:2)
I can't be proven definitively, so ultimately it`s a question of faith, which is also something that can't be calulated...
So I suppose it's just my choice, if there is such a thing
Yeah, I know; it IS circular reasoning. I just feel that it's right.
Re:the matrix (Score:2)
A much better design allows for independent programs that can be terminated separately without affecting other unrelated parts of the system. If there is a problem with the GUI, just restart the GUI and keep going. Or even shut the GUI off and go back to the command line. You don't need to rebo
Re:the matrix (Score:2)
One or more of these scripts can be dropped into a prim. Prims can be (and usually are) physically linked into a larger shape (such as a motorcycle, house, hot air ballon, or bingo card). In
Majority of Fortune 1000 runs IIS - followup (Score:2)
The article "What if the CIO doesn't know if they're running Linux? [linmagau.org]" is online now.
(PS. If this is familiar, I also noted this under the article Real NTFS.SYS under Linux.)
Re:Majority of Fortune 1000 runs IIS - followup (Score:2)
Thanks for your comment. It al started when I read the article about how IIS was more popular than Apache, then it went from there...
Warning: Half-assed Idea Follows
Suppose you ran a win4lin process that ran the file-server, which then got exposed to the outside world via linux - would that solve the NTFS.SYS wrapper problem?
tsk tsk tsk (Score:3, Funny)
I have to say I find the policies of L.A. County and the State of California to be Discriminatory.
Oh NO!!! (Score:2)
-Matrix Trilogy
use color coding instead of Master and slave (Score:4, Funny)
Awww MAN! (WRT54G) (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Awww MAN! (WRT54G) (Score:2)
Map of the Internet (Score:2)
(it's the one with the dot)
Get them Matrix pics (Score:2)
When I get a robot ... (Score:2)
Machines should be our slaves, not people. Machines may even be why we don't need slaves any more to construct successful economies - well, that and the Chinese who will work for less than it would cost to keep a good machine in service here, let alone a human being.
When the AI folks start arguing for transhumanism and machine's rights, consider that the only way to grant machines ri
Re:When I get a robot ... (Score:2)
If you mean that granting a machine a right to continued existence means taking a human's right to terminate that machine away, then yes you're correct. Granting a human the right to live means taking away the "right" of other humans to kill him or her in the same way. The question is what rights trump what others? Perhaps a human right to reproduce might conflict with a machine's right to buil
Re:When I get a robot ... (Score:2)
Re:When I get a robot ... (Score:2)
Apologies to those who haven't seen Animatrix...
Slashback (Score:2)
linux response to matrix spoof (Score:2)
i can see linux the linux response by having Linus as Frodo, Alan Cox as Gandolf, Redmond as Mordor. SCO as Saruman.
Sucked me right in. (Score:2)
Oboy!
<*click*>
Amazon? (Score:2)
Now, of course I didn't RFTA, especially on a Slashback where there's tons of them, but I was just wondering how effective it is to offer excerpts when Amazon lets you browse large chunks. Now, that being said, I don't know how long these excerpts are, I was just pointing out something that I noticed.
Political Correctness (Score:3)
Take for example the idea that you cannot say "blind", you have to say "visually impaired". How does that make any difference? If someone is blind, they are blind. Using a different name for it does not make them any less blind. The only difference it can possibly make is that you can feel a little less guilty about the fact that you can see and they can't. But you shouldn't be feeling guilty about that in the first place. It probably isn't your fault, after all. It's just the way the world works. {Of course, placing people in denial and making them feel guilty about themselves is a great way to manipulate them. Cf. Dr Benway in Naked Lunch}. "Master" and "slave" when applied to inanimate pieces of hardware are just names. Humans do not keep slaves anymore {so the theory goes} so there is no reason for anyone to be offended by the terms.
Another thing
Later, the same kids went to his home and tried to start a fire. The law held that it was a racist attack, even though it was most patently not: it was simple revenge, motivated by nothing more than childish indignation at someone else choosing to behave in accordance with the spirit of the law. Race had nothing to do with it. Whilst I don't doubt that a few racial epithets may have been used in the verbal accompaniments to the violence, my contention is that the primary grievance was not with the shopkeeper's race but with his understandable aversion to a prison sentence. Misrepresenting this as a racial incident only gives ammunition to real racists.
Re:Son of Tsarkon Reports Major Tom's Greased Up Y (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Speaking of the Matrix spoof... (Score:1, Funny)
Re:HOWTO (Score:5, Funny)
HOWTO install software on MS-Windows
1. Go to store. Find the software you want, or are told you want.
2. Stand in line to purchase software.
3. Pay $429.99 for office suite
4. Drive home
5. Unpack software. Break fingernail on impenetrable plastic carton. Curse. Wrap finger in Curious George band-aid.
6. Insert CD. Watch the extended edition of The Fellowship of the Ring while the virus scanner checks the CD.
7. When the setup program autoruns, click through licenses and questions both stupid and unintelligible. When the setup program asks for the keycode, look around your workspace. After 5 minutes of frantic searching, realize you through it away with the fingernail-hating packaging. Dig through garbage; find license under old coffee grounds.
8. While the program installing, watch the extended edition of The Two Towers.
9. Run the program for the first time. Dig through settings and configuration to figure out how to TURN OFF THAT DAMNED PAPERCLIP!
10. Done.
Of course, this is for an old version of MS-Office. The newer version is much simpler; since Clippy is no longer included, step 9 is not necessary.
HOWTO install program under Linux (Debian):
1. apt-get install openoffice.org
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Re:HOWTO (Score:2)
Re:HOWTO (Score:2)
Re:Embarrassing PR backlash ? (Score:3, Insightful)
So in the meantime, they mod up these posts about their complaints and mod those who have had a better experience with other operating systems like linux and BSD (granted, that's pretty much everyone who has used them for more than a year) into a mudhole.
Slashdot articles in
Re:Embarrassing PR backlash ? (Score:2)
Re:Does MS have the right? (Score:3, Insightful)
i have no idea what all this other nonsense of which you speak pertains to.