Hitchhiker's Guide Film Reports 518
wakaranai writes "The BBC reports that the new "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" movie will star Martin Freeman (Tim from The Office) as Arthur Dent. According to the Internet Movie Database filming starts early 2004, and Marvin's voice will be Stephen Moore, reviving his role from the classic 1981 BBC TV version." If you haven't seen The Office, it takes the subject matter Dilbert has bored us with, and makes it utterly hysterical. This is a good bit of casting. I'm still available to play Zaphod.
So, Taco . . . (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:So, Taco . . . (Score:5, Funny)
Word twisting (Score:5, Interesting)
Unless the director chooses to use lots of narration, which could ruin a film.
Re:Word twisting (Score:5, Informative)
Given that the original was a radio show, which contained one or two words....
Re:Word twisting (Score:4, Insightful)
With radio, the audience isn't shown what's going on, thus there has to be a certain degree of narration to give them some idea of what's going on.
With a movie, the audience sees the action for themselves so narration wouldn't have to be used.
Re:Word twisting (Score:2, Interesting)
You may achieve excellent results using narration in a movie, one of my favourite situations is the one where Don Lockwood explains is idea of "Dignity" [imdb.com].
Re:Word twisting (Score:2, Insightful)
Ah and don't forget the 'Blade Runner' narration - (the original - not the awful Director's Cut). Harrison Ford's voiceover added tremendously to the overall film.
I just the original would be put on DVD.
"Dear Mr Scott, please please please change your mind..."
Noir it up, beeyatch. (Score:5, Interesting)
Instead of a narrator, you just have the Guide chip in with an internal monologue every once and awhile. That's what Fight Club did to keep all their clever wordplay in. Admittedly, they had it easier since FC's first-person to start with, but most of the good stuff in H2G2 is cleverly-worded exposition, so it's no problem to just have the Guide say most of it.
Fitting, actually... (Score:5, Insightful)
Read the books again and look beyond the humor. It's probably only the humor which will appear on the screen, which could be a bit of a let down. Include some of that cynicism from the books and it could be better than just another light british comedy.
Re:Fitting, actually... (Score:3, Funny)
You're right, Mr. Adams would indeed have to have had lots of foresight to see how Big and how Ugly Micro$soft would become.
As it turns out, Douglas Adams did have that much foresight; see his anti-MS rants here [aol.com], here [sirius.sgic.fi], here [bbc.co.uk], and... oh, shit, just Google [google.com] for "Douglas Adams + Miscrosoft" and you'll see :-)
(Disclaimer: I love everything about Douglas Adams, and work for a company [oracle.com] famous for opposing Microsoft.)
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Adams was a jack-of-all-trades in life and writing (Score:2, Informative)
I wouldn't say that's safe to say at all. The BBC radioplay version of "The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" precedes the novels - and is (at least in my worthless anonymous opinion) easily on par with the novels as far as humor goes.
Re:Word twisting (Score:5, Informative)
"after disproving the existance of god, man goes on to prove 1=2, black=white, and gets run over on the next zebra crossing"
Re:Word twisting (Score:4, Funny)
Then of course, the idea of someone getting run over by a zebra, or perhaps a herd of stampeding zebras, made me laugh, so I thought maybe the author was just going for some kind of absurdist humor.
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As would most Americans, when we call them "crosswalks". "Zebra" is an essential part of the humor there. Also, the "I'm in the car park" joke just doesn't have the same punch with "parking lot".
But then we got the bit about the word Belgium inserted in our edition of the books to offset the sanitizing of the Rory for The Most Gratuitous Use of the Word "Fuck" in a Serious Screenplay. (Also "arsehole" was replaced with "kneebiter".)
Still, everyone got revisions about probability of rescues and the name of the writer of the worst poetry in the Universe due to problems of people calling phone numbers and the writer actually being a former classmate of Adams who wasn't amused (though in exchange for changing the name, we did get the actual poetry about dead swans).
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I bring this up because the original has a ton of narration (accompanied by bad graphics) but, hell, it could be a starfield screensaver with some guy reading the entire text in the background and I would still love it. I think it's too good of a book to be ruined by a change of medium. It's been
Re:Word twisting (Score:5, Informative)
That would be the TV series.
There is also at least one comic book series.
And the radio play is the original, though there came a point where multiple versions were being made simultaneously, then more radio episodes to finish out the book adaptions, and only now a movie.
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" has almost as many adaptions as has "The War of the Worlds". I wonder if they'll come out with an arcade game version next (Cinematronics did TWotW as an arcade game). Or pinball?
Re:Word twisting (Score:4, Informative)
For instance, instead of just cupping your robe in front of the Babel Fish vending machine (because they are too slippery to catch and the vending machine shoots them out at high speed for no particular reason), you have to hang your robe on a hook, put a towel over a drain, move a bag over a door, and pile mail on the bag to get the fish and advance the storyline. Garrgh!
"bad graphics"??? (Score:4, Interesting)
Of course it turned out that the computer graphics weren't computer generated at all 'cos the kit to do them didn't exist then (or if it did was way out of the Beeb's pricerange).
Ah, those were the days.
Re:Word twisting (Score:3, Interesting)
What I really don't want to see in this movie is an identical re-hash, opening in exactly the same way as the book, the TV series and the radio series, with exactly the same dialogue and jokes. There'd just be no point. The film should open on Ford Prefect waking up in the middle of the night and decoding the signal from the incoming Vogons, or Zaphod speeding across the oceans of Damogran towards Easter Island.
Sequel (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Sequel (Score:2, Interesting)
Did you forget about "Young Zaphod Plays it Safe" [kulichki.com]?
Re:Sequel (Score:2)
It's officially called Trilogy.
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Re:Sequel (Score:2, Funny)
To be technical like you, however, since "tri" means 3 and "logos" means word, a trilogy can only have 3 words. Any longer works will need to find a new name. Now go away, kneebiter.
It's a joke! (Score:5, Informative)
I think the word you're looking for is "pedantic", not "technical".
You obviously haven't read the books. The fourth and fifth books both have a blurb on the cover that says something like "fourth in the increasingly inaccurately named Hitchhiker's Guide trilogy". It's a joke, very much in keeping with the late author's sense of humor.
Re:Sequel (Score:2)
Re:6 * 9 = "42" (base 13) (Score:5, Informative)
And again here, more blatently: Now that's bloody Informative!
Re:6 * 9 = "42" (base 13) (Score:3, Interesting)
Consider: Arthur and Ford are trapped on prehistoric Earth. Zaphod finds himself at the Hitchhiker's offices, which proceed to get bombed by Frogstar Fighters, and Zaphod gets hauled off to the Frogstar to be plugged into the Total Perspective Vortex, supposedly lethal to all sentient life. He survives, but it is later reveale
Re:6 * 9 = "42" (base 13) (Score:3, Informative)
We're talking Douglas Adams here, not Alex Trebek. It would be perfect for him to have the Ultimate Question not even be in the form of a question.
And it explains the answer: the answer itself is meaningless, a number pulled out to provide the initial seed value for the Universe.
It also matches what he did in "Mostly Harmless" wrt Stavromula Beta: at the end of chapter 4, there's mention that Alpha was Stavro's orig
Stephen Moore (Score:5, Interesting)
He'll probably be quite pleased. Marvin, on the all.
Cheers,
Ian
Re:Stephen Moore (Score:2)
Aarg. Preview. Oh well, I mean to say "Marvin will remain very depressed about it all".
What a waste of a 1000th comment this correction is. Oh well. I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed...
Cheers,
Ian
Re:Stephen Moore (Score:4, Funny)
Marvin sez: (Score:2)
Hopes for Zaphod (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hopes for Zaphod (Score:5, Interesting)
The key part is how to get a decent neck on him so that the two heads work. You could get twins or a pair of similar looking actors to play each part separately, then CGI them into one. Kinda like by tying them together before shooting and stuff. Way too many cool ways to do it, but don't make him 100% CGI!
Re:Hopes for Zaphod (Score:2, Insightful)
In other words, were not subjected to the shtick of the two heads talking to one another as if there were two people sharing the same body. I like the idea of two faces showing the same emotion in slighly different ways. I also like the idea of only one head at a time talking unless he's screaming
Re:Hopes for Zaphod (Score:4, Interesting)
One actor was behind the other - the clothes went round both actors so 'zaphod' had two double thickness legs, one double thickness arm and two normal arms (and two heads of course). The shoes were two paris of normal shoes on plates fixed heel to toe. Obviously the actors need to be of the same height and twins would be ideal.
The two actors on stage split the lines and did some nice business with both arms on the same side doing a task together,like feeding the 'opposite' head while the near head spoke. It was very effective.
Re:Hopes for Zaphod (Score:2, Insightful)
Starring ???? as Zaphod (Score:3, Insightful)
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Poor Synopsis (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Poor Synopsis (Score:2, Insightful)
And that differs from dilbert because
Re:Poor Synopsis (Score:2, Insightful)
Everytime I've watched The Office, I havn't felt amused... I've felt embarrased.
Especially the lead character I feel like I shouldn't be watching someone make that much of a dick of himself... and more disturbingly it appears to be the only part he can play.
Re:Poor Synopsis (Score:4, Insightful)
It's meant to make you cringe, thats the point of it really. They deliberatly avoid obvious gags, its not that kind of show. I guess you could see it as one of those shows thats main point is to make you feel better about your own life because its not as bad as theirs, although I have worked in offices with worse bosses & atmospheres so I could be wrong on that.
I'd say its a very individual thing as to whether you find it incredibly funny or just annoying as hell, and perhaps a very thin line. For years I just thought the former, now I'm hooked. My girlfriend hates it and cannot sit for more than 30 seconds with it on the tv.
If you do appreciate their humour then it is hysterical, they are more down-to-earth than most other comedies on the TV so it seems a fair statement. It wouldn't have run for 2 series plus xmas special if nobody liked it either.
Re:Poor Synopsis (Score:4, Informative)
Also, not on a hysterical note, your sympathy for Brent grows more and more towards the end of the series (last 2 included), including the amazing scene where he is fired and then stands up to reveal his costume :)
What it's really like... (Score:3, Informative)
The Office is hilarious but you'll need some time to get throu
The Office is great... (Score:2, Informative)
Movie go'ers who haven't read the book.... (Score:3, Funny)
I remember after the end of FOTR I overheard people saying "What happened to the ring?". Were these people living in a cave before going to the theater??
This is going to be great.
Re:Movie go'ers who haven't read the book.... (Score:4, Informative)
What are you talking about? The Ultimate Question to Life, the Universe, and Everything is "What is 6 times 9?"
The answer, of course, is 42.
(For the humor impaired, the joke is that 6*9 is not, actually, 42, implying there's something seriously wrong with the Universe when it can't even answer its own question correctly.)
Re:Movie go'ers who haven't read the book.... (Score:4, Funny)
Actually, the Earth matrix that was calculating the question got irrevocably screwed up by the arrival of all the telephone cleaners, hair dressers, and other useless beings from another planet. Thus, depending on how you interpret it, either the question of Life, the Universe and Everything is 7*6 or the question is simply lost forever.
Re:Movie go'ers who haven't read the book.... (Score:3, Informative)
From wikipedia:
"In the original radio series, this scene occurs at the end of the first series (Fit the Sixth). On discovering the question, Arthur Dent remarks "I always said there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe.". "
Re:Movie go'ers who haven't read the book.... (Score:3, Informative)
I'm not quite certain this was the point of the "6x9" joke, given that the program of the computer called Earth was corrupted by the arrival of the Gulgafrincham. OTOH, I do agree about the premise that there is something seriously wrong with the Universe.
Re:Movie go'ers who haven't read the book.... (Score:3, Funny)
Yes, 6x9=42, in base 13, but no one writes jokes in base 13.
I'd pick... (Score:3, Funny)
It's the guy in the "high noon" graphic (Score:5, Informative)
On a related note, Slartibartfast was originally a working name for the character, which Adams chose just because he didn't like the typist the BBC had assigned for him whilst he was writing the scripts.
Re:I'd pick...Monty Python (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I'd pick... (Score:5, Funny)
Would that make him Shlartibartfasht?
Re:I'd pick... (Score:2)
Picture "It was made from the ribcage of a Stegosaurus!" in a Scottish accent.
the lost script... (Score:3, Funny)
The Office (Score:5, Informative)
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Picture (Score:5, Interesting)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38281000/jpg/_
looks like he could pull it off. never seen that movie though.
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Anyone who liked Marvin the paranoid android.... (Score:5, Funny)
It would be interesting... (Score:5, Interesting)
It might gain a crossover audience for special effects (they do go to many weird places, after all), but I don't think it'll get good critical reviews. The Hitchiker's Guide doesn't have a three-act movie structure, it bounces around from episode to episode. It's really more suited to be a TV series.
It's also peculiarly British. Think about it: Arthur Dent's home is destroyed (twice) by bureaucrats. (Here it would have to be corporations.) They spend time looking for a cup of tea. The end of the universe comes, *and it's no big deal*: people go to a restaurant to watch it happen. (As they say, in England, death is imminent, in Canada, death is inevitable, and in California, death is optional.) The frat-boy Zaphod is a figure of fun and the hero is the mild-mannered Arthur Dent.
I'm also disappointed that they're probably going to make Trillian into a bimbo again; she was supposed to be an astrophysicist. Nobody seems to like nerd women, except for Slashdot, Harvey Pekar, and Howard Dean
And I wonder how well the nerd community is going to rally around it: THHGTTG has been out for a while, and some younger nerds have never heard of it. Hey, I never knew about the Goon Show until I read they were part of the inspiration for Python (I'm 24).
Oh well, I hope it's good...
Re:It would be interesting... (Score:4, Interesting)
Right, but all these lovely stereotypes are why we Americans love to poke fun at the British. Also, remember that the Hitchhiker series as as beloved by geeks on the left side of the pond as the right.
I'm also disappointed that they're probably going to make Trillian into a bimbo again; she was supposed to be an astrophysicist. Nobody seems to like nerd women, except for Slashdot, Harvey Pekar, and Howard Dean ;)
It would be a disappointment if she were *just* a bimbo...but she *is* a bimbo.
And I wonder how well the nerd community is going to rally around it: THHGTTG has been out for a while, and some younger nerds have never heard of it.
Who? Let me go kick their asses. I think the standards will be high, meaning it will either be reviled or loved by the geek community.
Trillian was NOT a bimbo! (Score:2)
You're way off the mark there by thinking only of her chosen appearance and happy disposition. Trillian was always portrayed as bright and level headed --- in fact she was just about the only sane person around in a universe of loonies.
Deep Thought (Score:4, Funny)
Wouldn't Cmdr Taco make a better (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wouldn't Cmdr Taco make a better (Score:2)
My votes for casting... (Score:2)
Mike Myers as Zaphod Beeblebrox.
Owen Wilson as Ford Prefect.
January Jones as Trillian.
Alan Rickman as...someone. Maybe the waiter at Milliways? He just has to be in there somewhere.
Yeah, I know, too expensive, but I think it would work pretty well.
Re:My votes for casting... (Score:3, Insightful)
Zaphod should go to Bruce Campbell, and Jeff Goldblum would be great for Ford. And if Disaster Area makes it into the movies, they should do whatever it takes to get the Rolling Stones to play them.
Re:My votes for casting... (Score:3, Funny)
The Vogons aren't *that* bad.
This has everything to be great (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, Douglas Adams fans should know that his computer works are now abandonware, and available for free download:
Last Chance to See -- The CD ROM, multimedia version of his book about endangered species [the-underdogs.org]
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- the text adventure game adaptation (by Infocom) [the-underdogs.org]
Bureaucracy -- the original text adventure game (by Infocom) [the-underdogs.org]
Cheers.
WHY is this being entrusted to a newbie director!? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:WHY is this being entrusted to a newbie directo (Score:3, Informative)
Short films have always been a good starting point for young filmmakers, and music videos are easily the most popular kind of short film. Besides, there are several ways of thinking about music vids; either, as you say, meaningless eye candy, or as a chance to squeeze some brilliantly original film-making into a meagre three minutes while managing often-pitiful budgets, release schedules and pop sta
Memories of Douglas Adams at Apachecon (Score:2, Informative)
Anyway, I hope the movie is good.
Zaphod played by... (Score:3, Interesting)
All the film's creators should keep Oscar Wilde's words in mind: In an absurd play, no character can acknowledge the absurdity, or it all breaks down. Thus, the new screenplay should omit lines like the "these guys are ridiculous!" parts in the Shooty and Bang-Bang scene (where the heroes are trapped behind a computer bank on Magrathea).
As for the bit parts, there are dozens of chances for cameos. For example, Bill Murray and Steve Martin should play Magikthies and Vroomfondel.
Trillian??? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Two heads? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Two heads? (Score:2)
Of course he doesn't. He gets the second head surgically added after he picks up Trillian at a party on Earth. Hmmm, I suppose Taco's wife might have a thing or two to say about THAT little jaunt...
The Office (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:Maybe I should watch the first one... (Score:2)
Go visit your local library, if you know what that is, and go get the Guide, you won't regret it for the rest of your life!
Re:This will be interesting (Score:3, Insightful)
I hope they don't, to be honest. Specifically, I would like to consign the fifth book to the dustbin of history. The humour seemed to have gone, and the overall impression was one of bitterness rather than anything else. Fenchurch dismissed with a not especially good joke too, although to be fair that also happened to Trillian in the original radio series (The joke was funnier there though. A
Re:Dilbert is funny, witty. (Score:5, Funny)
This [reference.com] may help.
Re:Dilbert is funny, witty. (Score:2, Insightful)
The Office is pretentious and boring. Is one of those things that only Brits get I guess.
Nah, nah, no sense of humour!
Re:the office stinks (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:The Office (Score:2)
American shows do like their beautiful people.
It's always amusing to compare the people in American soap operas to the people in English ones like, say, EastEnders...
Re:The Office (Score:5, Interesting)
It's always amusing to compare the people in American soap operas to the people in English ones like, say, EastEnders...
That's because American soaps are aspirational, while English ones are cautionary. Dallas: you, too, can be a millionaire with hot chicks if you work hard. East Enders: if you don't work hard, you'll end up as one of these drunk, ugly, poor peasants.
Australian soaps sit in the middle: the people are poor but beuatiful. Not sure what the message is, but it sure looks nice...
Re:The Office (Score:4, Funny)
Everybody needs good neighbours.
Re:The Office (Score:2, Insightful)
Or maybe it's just that us Brits are less superficial than you Americans...
Re:Red Dwarf (Score:2)
And the website has said that the movie would be in progress for a while now. But no updates have been done, anyone done any research on this and know the real current story on this one>