The Star Wars Car 403
An anonymous reader writes "You think you're a Star Wars fan because you own a lightsaber? Behold, the Star Wars car. Some of the comments on the forum suggests that it's modelled after a A-Wing. One of the coolest "mods" I've seen in a long time, very original and time demanding it seems."
I just don't get it. (Score:5, Insightful)
Is it the challenge, or the attention to detail, or what draws people to these?
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:5, Funny)
Rear spoilers add 30 hp.
Type R sticker == stick-on NOS
Hope this helps...
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:5, Funny)
The rear spoiler is, in effect, a third nipple. Kind of neat to have, ugly to look at, functionally useless, and if it sticks out more than a little, should be removed by a qualified person as soon as possible.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2, Informative)
From memory (unreliable) the wing (or picnic table, possibly) on the back of 80s-early 90s Ford Cosworths turned a ~400Nm torque upwards (measured about the rear wheels) into a ~500Nm torque downward. Granted, these models were rear and later 4 wheel drive, but this is about the aerodynamics of the vehicle. It had lots of Scient
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:3, Interesting)
The major factor is at what speed will the car begin to noticeably lift from the ground. Most cars, even the rice powered ones will never reach speeds high enough to lose traction due to the
85 MPH (Score:2, Interesting)
I think the oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme took about 95 before you could definitely feel it.
Now that doesn't mean you need a spoiler, and one might not help much at that speed, but I'm saying you could tell the car was developing some lift.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2, Informative)
they create negative lift, how much depending on the design.
they also improve airflow around the car.
So you get more grip for high speed cornering, and generally a slightly lower top speed, although it depends on how much downforce the spoiler creates.
Some spoilers might actually increase top speed, simply because they are designed to produce very little downforce, and improve the aerodynamics of the car because of the air flow is better.
But even these spoilers will create
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:3, Informative)
A spoiler (like the upswept rear of the "Whale Tail Porsche) "spoils the lift created by the vehicle's body.
The body of a car shaped generally like the cross section of a wing, creates lift because of the Bernoulli Principle.
In order for the Bernoulli princlple to operate, airflow over the body (or wing) must be laminar.
A spoiler "spoils" the laminar airflow by creating turbulence.
A spoiler can also increase top speed if it is designed to create pressure (actually "spo
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:3, Funny)
You must not have seen the spoilers we have around here, or else you'd have mentioned the tidal effects caused by the sheer mass.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2, Offtopic)
I also believe in Rolex watches. I wear my Rolex when I'm out putting my Grannie Touristo through the paces, and I get into the turns better and out of them faster.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2)
Of course, my sources could be wrong. But I would think that the designers of high-price, high-performance sports cars would have some idea what they're doing.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2)
The big question is the shape of the cars. People are talking about F1. F1 cars are designed to have maximal downforce, but the wing(front and back) configurations change slightly based on the track(less for Monza/Indy, more for Monte Carlo). If you want a better demonstration, look at Champ(CART) cars. For ovals(especially like Michigan), the front wings are smaller,
As a racing engineer.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's break this out into two sections: spoilers, and wings.
A wing is supposed to be an active downforce device. The idea is to provide increased grip by providing a downward-facing aero lift (the wing, from an aircraft perspective, is upside-down)
99% of the wings fitted in the aftermarket are appearence items only (especially those ridiculous aluminum-siding extruded horrors) in that they provide zero downforce.
But a properly-engineered wing can provide lots of useable downforce at suprisingly low speeds - and for cars that rely on underbody aero (like LeMans LMP cars) the negative pressure area under the wing can interact with the underbody aero and make the underbody stuff work even better.
For production-based cars, most wings don't do much, if anything. The exception is when production parts must be homolgemated for use in competition, like with WRC cars and similar series.
Spoilers, on the other hand, have a different purpose. A car, seen in profile, makes a pretty good wing, and many body shapes produce signifigant vertical lift. The effects tend not be be noticable at lower speeds, but at speeds exceeding 70 MPH and higher, depending on the car, that lift can become signifigant.
A spoiler seeks to disrupt the airflow around the rear of the car, killing the lift provided by the body shape - exactly the same way a spoiler does on an aircraft wing (especially as fitted to many gliders and certain passenger aircraft)
These tend to be VERY effective in improving high-speed stability. Sometimes you get lucky and the spoiler actually creates downforce (this is engineered in on purpose in a NASCAR Cup car, for example) but most of the time, killing lift suffices.
The little ducktails on the 2G GM F-bodies actually made 60 or so lbs of downforce at 100 MPH. Done correctly, they ARE functional.
More recently, the Audi TT grew a spoiler to combat lift and the associated instability at autobahn speeds - look it up.
DG
Re:As a racing engineer.... (Score:5, Interesting)
GS-400s have a curvy, stout body, with token ground-effect moulding up front. The specs I'd seen said it should get into the 160s, but with all that sheet-metal I had questions.
At 145, the front end of the body started to float a bit. The wheels didn't come loose, but if I'd tried for 150, they might have. The car was nutating in three dimensions; basically flapping at a low frequency. This was severely reducing my chances of maintaining control, so I got off the throttle and let it coast back to legal speed (it took about a mile to get to 145 from 0, and a mile to idle back down to 65).
The rear end, with its little wing/spoiler/go-fast option, was just fine.
It wasn't even breathing hard at 145. The Tach said I had another 20-30% in the mill.
I did, however, melt about 2,000 miles off the tires (140 treadwear rating; soft, grippy rubber like rock-climbing shoes; specced for 12K miles before replacement under normal driving conditions, but you need that traction in this thing or you're spinning at every green light; I can't imagine what kind of glue the VW Phaeton's tires will have to exude to stick down) and left it as a dusty black film on the rear fenders.
I think with a tighter suspension (they'd softened it to make the car a little less hotrod and a little more luxury sedan) and a shallower nose, or a nose-wing, I could have clocked into the 160s, maybe 170s.
And Burt Rutan thinks he has a rocket.
Re:As a racing engineer.... (Score:4, Funny)
"My old pontiac Fiero GT could easily out-do that... brought my top end to 165.7... (with) stock 6 cyl engine."
Oh yeah? Well I have a stock 95 Neon R/T, and it easily does 190 mph in my high school's parking lot no less!
You kids and your bullshit make-believe stories from weak cars, when will you ever learn.
burn Karma burn
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:3, Interesting)
Now hold on a minute here. I do indeed have a background in this, background enough to know that to this date nobody, not one sou
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2, Insightful)
A spoiler is ideal for racers but useless for Working Joe during city/highway driving.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2)
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2)
Terminology (Score:2)
The wings for downforce on rice-mobiles, however, are ridiculous. An actual spoiler wouldn't hurt, but of course, those don't look fast.
A front spoiler simply keeps air
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:5, Funny)
Here are a few other things they don't understand:
The Honda Civic is not a fast car, even with ground effects
Girls think that the big wing on your trunk is compensation for a small penis (please see your email for assistance)
Whereas flashy colors assists the mating ritual for peacocks, it detracts from the efforts of humans
No, Mugen is not interested in sponsoring your tricked out Neon
We all know that the NOS meter on your dash is fake
You are no longer part of an underground movement (please see your local Blockbuster or EB for evidence)
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:3, Funny)
...oh.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:5, Interesting)
In any case, I've mirrored the pics in a smaller size:
http://www.danamania.com/starwarscar/ [danamania.com]
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2)
The stuff around the steering wheel scares me though.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:5, Informative)
I make action figures, hotwheels toys, props, models, and costumes for a living. So, much like a plumber that advertises on his panel van, my car shows what I do. And you'd better believe no one forgets it- I get a lot of business from being "that dude with the car".
He also uses the car to raise money for charity.
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I just don't get it. (Score:2)
More importantly, why Honda(as it looks like --maybe I'm wrong...!)??? There must be a better choice for the base car....
Delorean! (Score:3, Funny)
Then it will be a time machine too!
Wow... (Score:5, Interesting)
Despite the fact that this car screams "cheesy," the attentino to detail is remarkable.
Re:Wow... (Score:3, Interesting)
Read further. This guy is a toy and model maker by trade, so he should know how to detail something like that
He was also the builder of a scale AT-ST walker model sold on eBay recently, but the link escapes me right now.
Re:Wow... (Score:3, Informative)
This one [ebay.com]?
She's called Pammy (Score:5, Funny)
Yes, that swim-suited beauty lives in my top draw and leaps into action whenever she hears the cries of a light bulb in difficulty.
slashdot don't bother (Score:5, Funny)
pictures are already frozen in carbonite
Sounds familiar (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Any piccies remaining ? Re:Sounds familiar (Score:2, Informative)
Mmmm, star wars (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Mmmm, star wars (Score:5, Informative)
They (and I) are also members of LASFS [lasfs.org] (Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society). And I bet more than a few of them read Slashdot
Re:Mmmm, star wars (Score:2)
Re:Mmmm, star wars (Score:2, Funny)
Here's some reference material:
Hot [free-compu...papers.com]
Not [dropdeadugly.com]
Hot [beautifulwallpapers.com]
Not [micheline.ca]
Here's [gimpcity.com] a page you could print out and carry around as a handy pocket reference.
Re:Mmmm, star wars (Score:5, Insightful)
Riiiiight.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Besides, who cares? This man is apparently married to a woman who shares a rather arcane interest; that of making star wars costumes.
Have you any idea how rare a find a woman like that is? To find a woman who is into something that obscure, single, willing to marry (not to mention willing to marry you), and isn't a reclusive nutcase?
Listen, dating for looks alone is fine... did it myself for a few years. However, the percentage of those "hot" women who either had problems, emotional scars, or outright personality disorders was quite high... perhaps from being hunted like an 18-point buck from puberty onward. It took me until almost my 30's to find the perfect woman, and I married her as fast as I could (I tried to elope after two weeks, but she wanted a wedding... oh well.)
Everyone should be as lucky as that man. I think he chose wisely... mod him +5 insightful.
No back seat (Score:5, Funny)
Apparently he's married (see other posts), but I'd also like to point out that there's more than one answer to "why no back seat?" besides "no woman will have me".
For example, "I don't live with my parents, so we can use an actual BED" comes to mind.
Re:No back seat (Score:4, Insightful)
Or the couch. Or the living room floor. Or the washing machine....
Married life doesn't *have* to be boring.
Sad but True (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sad but True (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Sad but True (Score:5, Informative)
(oddness alert, the parent post quoted Larry Niven, who is also close friends to the Crosby's. Members of LASFS and all that. See earlier post of mine for details and links)
Re:Sad but True (Score:2)
But fact is that there ARE some girl that dig dorks... sometimes you just have to find them. Or, in this guy's case, when he has ac ar like that, they can come find HIM!
Hey baby, wanna take ride in my X-wing? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hey baby, wanna take ride in my X-wing? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hey baby, wanna take ride in my X-wing? (Score:3, Informative)
Reminds Of The Pepsi Racer (Score:3, Informative)
This reminds me of the Pepsi Episode I racer debut around 5 years ago
http://www.sugarfreeracing.com/images/coke/5279
Obviously this is a fan mod to his very own car, kudos
Deeply Arrested Adolescence (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Deeply Arrested Adolescence (Score:3, Insightful)
Just because you grow up doesn't mean you need to grow old!
Homepage of the owner (including picture mirrors) (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.shawnandcolleen.com/
Looks like he'll have a huge bandwith bill...
MIRROR - Images slashdotted already. (Score:5, Informative)
Mirror [zapto.org]
Much faster mirror. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:MIRROR - Images slashdotted already. (Score:5, Informative)
Yet another MIRROR (Score:5, Informative)
http://cs.baylor.edu/~wilsonj/xwing.html [baylor.edu]
Famous last words
Move along (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Move along (Score:2)
I mean, maybe "Management, move along, these are not the geeks you are looking for..." would have been a little better...
Besides, Jeff Gordon already drove the star wars car [floridatoday.com], didn't he? Of course, his version doesn't look as cool, but it's a bit faster...
It's no M.F. (Score:5, Funny)
But, can it make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs?
Re:It's no M.F. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:It's no M.F. (Score:5, Informative)
Uh, no. A parsec is the distance of a star at which its parallax angle (as seen from the Earth) is one arcsecond.
parallax arcsecond.
Glad I could help
Re:It's no M.F. (Score:3, Interesting)
Yes, yes, 3.26 light years. This "mistake" is a geeks' favorite. Unfortunately there's applicable science available to explain not only the "mistake", but the correctness of its presentation in the film.
NASA's advanced propulsion research has already started looking at trans-relativistic mechanisms for space travel (http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast02f e b98_1
Not surprisingly, there are more: (Score:4, Funny)
Umm, yeah. ;)
I recall seeing a landspeeder on Ebay once... And a Moose once bit my sister...
A word from Yoda (Score:4, Funny)
Car mods nothing new (Score:3, Insightful)
The car has to remain road worthy and you can't violate any local laws in your design. Some places will issue a fix it ticket for extra lights on your car.
(Get a light kit at your local auto shop)
The only illegal case mod I can think of is stuffing explosives in the computer and that only becouse having the explosives to start with is probably a violation of some laws. Well that and it's really stupid.
Most of the body mods I've heard of are for the old VW Bugs. Two populare ones my mom was intrested in was the key in the back that made the bug look like a big wind up toy and one that is a replica body of a much more expensive car.
(Why fork over for a gas hog when you can look the part and still have decent fule consumption?)
Most mods have to do with loud stereos.
But I have sensitive ears and I'd much rather remove the speakers from the car entirely and use the space for computers.
People will mod everything. Computer, Car, Home, Self. Yeah... I understand quite a few plastic surgens aren't to happy with the more exotic alterations.
I draw the line at my body.
Thow I'm not exactly creative the mods I want usually involve installing Linux. Install computers on board the car and run Linux (Mobile computing) install computers in the house to run the house. My computer IS my TV so no more "install computer in TV" gigs but that one ended long before I got intrested in Linux. Back then I just wanted to install computers in everything.
Except my body...
No install Linux in me body thanks.
old news... but here's a mirror to the images.... (Score:2, Informative)
Top 10 Star Wars Car Names (Score:5, Funny)
9. Chewberetta
8. Car Car Binks
7. Chrysler Coruscant
6. An SUV called the "Natalie Sportman"
5. Tucker Photon Torpedo (oops, forgot, this is not Star Trek. Sorry)
4. Obi-Wan Cherokee
3. Darth Dodge Maulrauder
2. Tattoiyota
1. Cadillac EwoQ [crestviewcaddy.com]
I know the owner of this car (Score:5, Informative)
Contrary to commonly held views the guy has a lovely wife. I just love how people go straight for the typical stereotypes.
Anyways, I'm about to do something against the better part of my judgement and post a link to my photo gallery where I have just a few photos of his Star Wars H-Wing car:
http://www.nonmundane.org/gallery/Bizzare/R2day
http://www.nonmundane.org/gallery/Bizzare/R2ligh
http://www.nonmundane.org/gallery/Bizzare/S
http://www.nonmundane.org/gallery/Bizzare/Sol
http://www.nonmundane.org/gallery/Bizzare/So
If I remember correctly it is either going to show up in FHM or Wired magazine among other places.
And guys, please try to not kill my server if you can handle it. I only do this as it seems like most the mirrors or image hosts are hosed right now and I think people should at least have some idea of what the car looks like.
Do the lasers work? (Score:4, Funny)
Oh crap, I can hear the TSA changing my rating to "yellow" as I speak for this joke ...
Here's his work in progress page ... (Score:2)
http://www.boston-baden.com/hazel/Pix/2001/pix0
Mirror of the images... (Score:2)
Enjoy!
White Supremicist symbol (Score:2, Funny)
Dont you people have anything better to do? (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh yes, the site is down but from what i hear his wife isnt half bad looking. I personaly know quite a few damn good looking geek chicks. So maybe you guys are looking in the wrong places.
Re:Dont you people have anything better to do? (Score:2)
As for me...damn, I wish I had that.
what about the shade? (Score:2, Funny)
Don't cover the airbag! Safety first. (Score:5, Informative)
If you must, use something light. Paper decals secured with water based glue might not hurt you, but even then you are pushing your luck. Solvent based glue or paint is almost certian to screw up airbag deployment and heavy objects will be embeded in your face.
Yeah, yeah, I sound like a ninny. Old cars did not have aribags at all. They used to kill and injure people more often too. What's that one piece of the mod worth to you? I'd feel really stupid if I or one of my friends was ever hurt more than they had to be in an accident just for looks and fantasy.
As for the rest of it, it's wonderful. All I can ask more of it is that it's all secure and won't fall off in front of someone who will then freak out and kill someone.
That said, I drive a 1970 VW camper van. No airbags, manual stearing, no power assisted breaks, and me six inches behind the front bumper. You can hear large bugs impact on the front pannel. It scares the hell out of me and I'm very careful with it. I'm not, however, going to defeat any of it's safety systems, like seat belts, and I've put in later manufactured seats with head rests. One day, people with think cars without navicomps are downright reckless. I'll feel much safer as they will not be able to pull out in front of me anymore.
Princess Bride (Score:5, Funny)
Apologies to Rob Reiner for the paraphrasing.
Mirror (Score:2)
Links that Work (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.roadsquadron.com/cars.html [roadsquadron.com]
Also try this forum http://wraggy.com/barryboys/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/vie wtopic.php?t=2649 [wraggy.com] The pictures on it actually work too.
Looks more like an X-Wing to me ... (Score:3, Funny)
The Land Speeder was much better (Score:2)
A few years back somebody had completely re-bodied a car to look like a Star Wars Land speeder, and it was for sale on Ebay for like $15,000. This is the best pic I could find:
http://www.enorgis.com/Images/tn_starwarscar.jp
I remember from the other pictures it was kinda crappy up close but I suppose the Star Wars prop was too.
Another picture of the H-Wing (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, I'm not that impressed. (Score:3, Insightful)
R2D2 on the wrong ship (Score:3, Interesting)
Though the color scheme and armament it lacks the two tails of the A-wing though, and A-wings don't use R-2 units.
On the set of "Star Wars Episode 3" (Score:4, Funny)
Airbags... (Score:5, Funny)
Kinda reminds me of my old car which had a big sticker on the visor which warned that you "should not place any objects between yourself and the airbag". Duh. I wonder how many people had their plans for putting a big sharp spike on their steering wheel airbag covered foiled due to that sticker.
Record Slashdotting... (Score:3, Informative)
The Article Link [nasioc.com]
Mirror attempts:
http://www.danamania.com/starwarscar/ [danamania.com]
http://dephine.zapto.org/Slashdot/ [zapto.org]
http://www.jeffwilhelm.com/files/images/swcar/ [jeffwilhelm.com]
http://cs.baylor.edu/~wilsonj/xwing.html [baylor.edu]
Would anyone else like to try? Of course, its probably too late, as all mirrors have been slashdotted...
Re:Oh dear... (Score:2)
Re:Wow... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Uh, What ? LightsaVer? (Score:3, Informative)
Whole server actually [shawnandcolleen.com]
Other links though (as mentioned there):
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=& amp;threadid=484634 [nasioc.com]
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink =794534 [fark.com]
http://www.spyderchat.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=12 4115 [spyderchat.com]
http://www.cultofthejedi.com/funforum/showthread.p hp?t=271 [cultofthejedi.com]
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/showthread.php?s =&threadid=119457 [honda-acura.net]
http://www.automotivetech.or [automotivetech.org]
Re:Sweet! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:lightsaver? (Score:2)
Re:Can't Wait (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Wow. (Score:2)