2003 Vaporware Awards 502
7x7 writes "Wired News has the 2003 Vaporware Awards available for your perusal. Winning the Lifetime Achievement Award, if you hadn't guessed already: Duke Nukem Forever!"
Anything free is worth what you pay for it.
RIP, Fallout 3 (Score:5, Interesting)
that was such a kick in the nuts.
-fren
Re:RIP, Fallout 3 (Score:5, Interesting)
-retained the ability to name/improve your char
-supported portraits (c'mon guys it's not that hard!
-allowed different weapons and strategies
-had a nice 3D system like NWN
I know that last one might be a little controversial, but after getting used to zooming and panning in the 3D world it's hard to go back to pixels..
Back when I played Fallout it was called Wasteland (Score:3, Interesting)
He was even kind enough to ask for input from devoted fans [yahoo.com].
Yea, this is a bad list (Score:5, Interesting)
This list they have up is kind of lame actually this year, since many of the things that were on the list were announced ONLY this year. HL2 and Doom 3 both garnered votes (with HL2 making the top spot), but honestly, it is not like this game is really late. They just got the ball rolling for it this year, and all of a sudden it is considered TOP VAPORWARE?!?!?!
How about the HDTiVo? Announced in Jan 2003, and by Dec 2003, it is top 10 vaporware? UGH.
I think that Wired really needs to make put up some limits on what actually is considered "Vaporware." IMnsHO, the first thing is that the product must have been announced at least over a year ago (ie, 2002 for these awards). Just my $.02.
Re:RIP, Fallout 3 (Score:2)
probably best left on the drawing board... (Score:4, Funny)
Mike
Re:probably best left on the drawing board... (Score:4, Funny)
the 1st thing on my list would be Diakatana. *shudder*
the 2nd thing on that list would be Microsoft Bob *shudder*
anyone else got something?
Re:probably best left on the drawing board... (Score:5, Funny)
I was never lucky enough to have played this particular game. I did a web search for the name and came up with this website [onlineconfessional.com].
Truly frightning.
Re:probably best left on the drawing board... (Score:3, Funny)
Aren't things you get for christmas not supposed to cost you anything?
Let the boy be (Score:3, Funny)
Re:probably best left on the drawing board... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:probably best left on the drawing board... (Score:3, Insightful)
Win ME Plus?
DVD's that can't play on Pc's?
Napster 2.0?
Both 2003 Matrix Movies?
Memory Sticks?
Incompatible ports at the bottoms of PDAs?
Full-Speed USB 2.0?
That Deus Ex demo. You know, the one where the mouse was turned off.
Did I mention Win Me? Win Me Plus?
OHHH!!! I got the perfect title for that list (Score:5, Funny)
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"Little Piggies That Should Never Have Went to Market"
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Re:probably best left on the drawing board... (Score:3, Interesting)
but my lifetime achievement for vaporware is: arificial inteligence
Re:Just a few... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Console? (Score:3, Funny)
So... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So... (Score:3, Funny)
Duke Nukem Forever (Score:4, Funny)
How do you think it got its name in the first place?
Re:Duke Nukem Forever (Score:5, Funny)
But... you can pre-order the game:
Duke Nukem Forever Preorder [gamespot.com]
Only one more year! =P
Re:Duke Nukem Forever (Score:5, Funny)
When you're looking down a results sheet, you will find some drivers will have 'DNF' printed against their names.
This stands for 'Did Not Finish'
Re:Duke Nukem Forever (Score:5, Informative)
missed the vote (Score:4, Funny)
I would have voted for "SCO's Evidence Against Linux" had the thought crossed my mind.
Re:missed the vote (Score:5, Interesting)
Hurd (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Hurd (Score:2, Insightful)
We have heard it for years from zealots but I would say that hardly anyone has come up with a businessmodel that actually works. Redhat and IBM just selling other peoples work (read free labour) certainly doesn't quality.
Re:Hurd (Score:5, Funny)
Do you folks even know what VAPORware is? (Score:4, Informative)
Or the fact that you can download [gnu.org] it might disqualify it from being "vapor"-ware, at least to anyone who understands what the term means. Or are the usual anti-GNU shills more unaware than usual of common dictionary definitions of the terms they bandy about?
Re:Do you folks even know what VAPORware is? (Score:3, Funny)
Duke Nukem Forever... (Score:2)
The List (Score:5, Informative)
10. RadioShark (Griffin Technology)
9. Amiga OS 4.0 (Amiga)
8. Wrist PDA (Fossil)
7. HDTV TiVo (TiVo)
6. RealPC (FWB)
5. Wi-Fi SD Card for Palm (SanDisk)
4. Team Fortress 2 (Valve)
3. Phantom Gaming System (Infinium Labs)
2. Fallout 3 (Black Isle Studios)
1. Half-Life 2 (Valve)
Re:The List (Score:3, Informative)
Heh. they might regret picking on the AmigaOS this time. Hints from the producers show it'll be out at the beginning of february, and sent to existing AmigaOne owners by the end of January
Re:The List (Score:3, Informative)
1. SCO for the as-yet-unseen Unix code that the company alleges was ripped off in Linux
2. Microsoft for its "secure computing initiative" and the ever-slipping ship date for Longhorn, which is shaping up to be a very promising candidate for the Vaporware awards in 2006, 2007 and maybe even 2008.
Re:The List (Score:3, Funny)
Shouldn't the #1 vaporware of 2003 be Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction?
2003 Grand Champion of Vaporwar is.... (Score:4, Funny)
Lets give it up for WMD ladies and gentlemen!
*cough* Well, I did say it was Vaporwar. :-)
They quoted... me?!? (Score:5, Funny)
HL2 should not have been #1... (Score:5, Insightful)
HL2 had the source code stolen thing, and that's an understandable delay in shipping. TF2 just makes no sense... (particularly given how impressive the technology demonstrations were at E3 however many years ago that was, 4?)
Re:HL2 should not have been #1... (Score:5, Interesting)
As for TF2, it's now a mod for HL2, so of course it's delayed.
Re:HL2 should not have been #1... (Score:3, Insightful)
Was there just the one copy?
Re:HL2 should not have been #1... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:HL2 should not have been #1... (Score:5, Funny)
Well DUH! It was stolen. Don't you watch ST:Voyager? When someone downloads something from you (like your EMH), you no longer have it.
If you need further proof of this, just ask anyone in the RIAA or MPAA.
Re:HL2 should not have been #1... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:HL2 should not have been #1... (Score:3, Funny)
-- Hamster
Re:E3 Needs to Change (Score:5, Insightful)
Now, something announced in a press release is another matter entirely.
Fallout 3 (Score:2)
Re:Fallout 3 (Score:2)
Pre-Order for Duke Nukem Forever (Score:5, Funny)
Holy crap, think about, all those people that pre-ordered will end up buying another copy just because they forgot they preordered.
Holy Crap (Score:4, Funny)
2) delay game so long that people forget they pre ordered and buy another copy.
3) Profit!
Its a real busness plan.
JACEM
Re:Pre-Order for Duke Nukem Forever (Score:5, Funny)
Radio Shark (Score:3, Interesting)
Incidentally, TiVo is supposed to be putting in XM capability into one of their new receivers, does anyone know if you'll be able to timeshift it?
Re:Radio Shark (Score:2)
Re:Radio Shark (Score:3, Informative)
Sigh.
No, they're not. They're adding the ability to use an XM receiver via HMO -- that's it. Nothing more. No, you can't timeshift it. It's essentially taking an XM receiver and making it networkable to HMO-enabled TiVos. It's really deeply underwhelming.
E17? (Score:2)
I nominate (Score:5, Funny)
Team Fortress 2 (Score:3, Interesting)
Remember how cool it looked when the first videos surfaced.. it even won "TF (TM) 2 Wins E3.Net Awards " in 1999.
Straight From the duke's mouth... (Score:3, Informative)
Once we begin taking pre-orders, believe us, you'll know about it. :)
The release date of this game is "When it's done". Anything else, and we mean anything else is someone's speculation. There is no date. We don't know any date. If you have a friend who claims they have "inside info", or there's some game news site, or some computer store at the mall who claims they know - they do not. They are making it up. There is no date. Period.
port mozilla to amiga (Score:2, Interesting)
Hmm, shouldn't Amizilla [slashdot.org] be on the list too?
Story of Duke Nukem Forever? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Story of Duke Nukem Forever? (Score:3, Funny)
Well, after Duke 3D, Duke made the time to play with himself... too much time.
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Re:Story of Duke Nukem Forever? (Score:5, Informative)
There's really not much mentioning of the delay except that they changed engines during the development, which set them back quite a bit. But there is some interesting information regarding other apsects of the game.
Phantom Game Console (Score:3, Informative)
Just A Reminder Everyone (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm still waiting for Gran Turismo 2000 to hit the shelves.
Software Etc. will listen with empathy about my loud proclamations of GT2K == GT3-Aspec, and the sales weasels will agree with me. But the mgmt. shall not, will not, could not would not refund my money, nor give me a store credit until:
1) A game called Gran Turismo 2000 ships.
2) Official word from Sony arrives that the game is canceled.
bastards.
Re:Just A Reminder Everyone (Score:3, Insightful)
I bet I know why DNF is being delayed... (Score:2)
Next Slashdot poll (Score:5, Funny)
Then next year we can have " the 2003 Duke Nukem Awards"..
Ahh, just a thought...
Harpoon 4 ? (Score:3, Informative)
Obligatory SCO troll (Score:2, Funny)
The SCO Group [caldera.com] seems to have promised, but never delivered, UNIX code that was "copied verbatim" into Linux . None of the millions of lines, 65 files, or some new type of undefined intellectual property have yet materialized.
Hey, maybe this isn't as much a troll as I thought. Oh well, the mod points are yours.
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Phantom at CES? (Score:2)
Re:Phantom at CES? (Score:4, Interesting)
However, the number and types of ports on the back of this box ring alarm bells with me. How many PC-based consoles have:
Composite and S-Video and component video?
RCA and optical and "coax" audio?
Other little signs:
Power adapter plug has changed from previous regular PC style to circular multi-pin.
There is a coax connector for an optional internal cable modem (according to the proposed specs [phantom.net] but an internal ADSL modem is also an option. How do you choose which?
This reminds me of the Moller SkyCar [moller.com] where they produce just enough prototypes to keep the investors happy but never actually produce anything.
If they didn't turn the thing on then this is probably just an empty box with some ports stuck on the back.
very important missing game (Score:4, Informative)
A long time ago, the EQ2 FAQ said that EQ2 would be out Q32003. Then, it said Q42003. Then it said Q12004.
Now, it simply says:
n will EverQuest II be released?
EverQuest II will launch in 2004.
I know that EQ2 will arrive eventually, but it definately fits in the group of "all those eagerly anticipated gizmos in 2003 that were put off, put away or quietly put down."
Isn't EQ a big game, relative to anyone that would be playing Duke Nukem, even if it had come out?
SplashPad? (Score:3, Interesting)
Where is the SplashPower SplashPad [splashpower.com]?
Several [popsci.com] press [badassgeek.com] articles [i4u.com] have promised this for the past year. They're stuck on "looking for partnerships." I want one. Today.
At least macs are represented... (Score:2)
I remember... (Score:3, Interesting)
Original Release Date: April 1993
Actual Release Date: October 1996
And that '96 release date was only because the publisher forced the matter, even though Smart thought it wasn't yet ready for publication.
And bear in mind that the original release date in 1993 meant it was already being worked on MUCH earlier. In fact, it had been in development for 7 years by the time it was pushed onto the shelves in '96. I mean,
And for all that, it probably should have stayed as vaporware
I mean, how long has Duke Nukem been in development anyways? More then 7 years? Or is BC3K still king?
7. HDTV TiVo (TiVo) ... (Score:5, Informative)
is actually coming out it looks like: models to be available [tivocommunity.com]
The definition of vaporware (Score:3, Funny)
Don't be suprised, Jeff. Wikipedia has bested you [wikipedia.org]
Knuth V4 (Score:5, Insightful)
Speaking of which... (Score:3, Insightful)
I've followed these for the first year, and after watching the dates get pushed back again and again, i haven't looked in a bit.
Just curious if anyone's got info before i spend half the day weeding through all the google hits for "driver 3 release date" over the last 1.5 years.
oh please oh please oh please be better than the Stuntman game
Vaporware (Score:3, Interesting)
They however have learned to at least stop updating at all since their last showing and instead have only this to say:
"Microcode Solutions has received what we believe will be the final hardware revision of the PCI based PowerPC card being manufacturered by a well known PowerPC accelerator company. The current board is a high speed G3 board. Other models are being prototyped right now, and these are G4 and dual processor configurations. Microcode Solutions has always been the leader in Macintosh emulation technology, developing the first PowerPC emulation for a non-Macintosh platform. We will continue this tradition by releasing the first Power Macintosh emulation for the PC. Besides having a PCI based hardware solution, Microcode Solutions will also be releasing a completely software based emulation to the public at an amazingly low price (under $50). We know that people have waited an extremely long time for Microcode Solutions to release a new product, and we appreciate your patience. Just like our successful product "FUSION-PC", we feel we should wait to release the product until it is perfected. We are nearing that stage right now."
A modest announcement (Score:5, Funny)
My vote... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:My vote... (Score:3, Informative)
And it still hasn't.
Stand up Silicon Film Technologies [siliconfilm.com] ...
Re:My vote... (Score:3, Interesting)
WMD (Score:3, Funny)
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List is dominated by games (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't eagerly await shipment of new games, being an old fuddyduddy with not a lot of free time, and I'd like to see some actual productivity and imaging products get on that list, in addition to all the games and wrist gadgets.
What about that digital film that was supposed to come along? Whatever happened to that? I've got an old, sturdy 1970s Canon AE-1 Program that's just dying to come out of semi-retirement and use those extra-sharp FD lenses to make digital photos.
Add Longhorn to the list (Score:4, Funny)
They forgot Bitboys Oy! (Score:4, Informative)
Ahhh, the fond memories of my Intergraph Rendition Verite' 1000 card. You could play 3D accellerated vquake at 640x480 with all the prettiness of openGL at full speed on a Pentium 166; those were the days.
The obvious one is missing (Score:3, Interesting)
Where is it?
Psychonauts (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Psychonauts (Score:3, Funny)
I don't know whether to laugh at you or take pity on you.
Who am I kidding. (snicker).
THIS STUFF IS *NOT* VAPORWARE (Score:5, Interesting)
I for one am extremely stoked that game studios have finally adopted the "Its done when its done" mantra of releasing games.
Let's not forget that 'etched-in-stone' release dates are responsible for most of the really atrocious games inflicted on us over the last decade.
Blizzard, id, & Valve deserve enormous kudos for sticking firm to their convictions, and holding their corporate masters at bay while producing games that are polished and bug free.
Vaporware suggests that these companies have promised something that has not, and will not be delivered. We should keep in mind that at *no* point have any of these companies offered firm release dates. And they should be commended for not doing so.
What's funny is the really guilty party -- that is, the party which has most frequently made false promises of "what's coming down the pipeline" *has* to be Wired Magazine.
My 2 cents.
Duke Nukem Forever (Score:5, Funny)
"Duke Nukem winner of _many_ vaporware awards!"
Re:Duke (Score:2, Offtopic)
I'm not sure if this qualifies as a genuine Duke game, but my favorite was always Shadow Warrior [3drealms.com]. Based on the same engine, created by the same designers, with the same gross kind of humor that I shamefully ejoy. However, in the "reality" of some weird Jackie Chan movie, this kind of humor seems just more appropriate than in the pseudo-sf scenery of "Duke Nuke'm".
Re:Duke (Score:2)
Re:WMDs (Score:5, Informative)
Waiiiiiit a minute... (Score:3, Funny)
I don't get it. If Prez Bush doesn't have WMD, then what do we have in all those silos in Montana?
Re:interesting, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Heard that on Fox "News"? May I suggest that you don't swallow all and any propaganda/lies you hear.
Questioning the pace of discovery of WMD ... (Score:3, Insightful)
Step away from the computer and await the relocation experts from Guantanamo.
Re:Definition (Score:5, Funny)