Voice Of The Fire 104
Voice Of The Fire | |
author | Alan Moore |
pages | 336 |
publisher | Top Shelf Productions |
rating | 8/10 |
reviewer | Simoniker |
ISBN | 1891830449 |
summary | In a story full of lust, madness, and ecstasy, we meet twelve distinctive characters that lived in the same region of central England in the span of six thousand years. |
There's no question about it - this book is formidable. It is formidable in its complexity, formidable in the connective leaps it expects you to make between stories and eras, and most of all, it can be formidable in its prose. Before I even read Voice Of The Fire, I'd heard that the first chapter of the book is enough to put many casual readers off, and that's not far wrong. The story of a cave-boy called Hob -- confused, immature, possibly mentally deficient, and alone in a world of freedom, love, and, potentially, disaster -- is written in intentionally limited language that the less sharp members of mankind might be imagined to use in 4000 BC. It's not an easy read; this segment is a struggle to decode at times, but the rewards are significant, because the emotions are powerful, and the story strong.
The novel's twelve stories are woven together, but only loosely. Sometimes consecutive stories interact with each other by way of common locations, characters, or themes, as historical figures tell their stories in the first-person, one by one, from the aforementioned Hob to an inevitable conclusion in the present day. But generally, the stories don't actually interact. Some of the most memorable tales, such as the first-person tale of a severed head on a pike circa 1607, or the treacherous dealings of a lecherous court judge from centuries past, have absolutely nothing in common except for the general geographical location. But they share exceptional writing, a self-contained message, and an odd sense of foreboding hovering over the entire proceedings, like someone or something is watching over every single sin committed.
And, let it be said, there are a surfeit of sins -- violence, and senseless murder, and lust, and witchcraft, and plenty left over. But that's how real history is -- bloody. Or, at least, that's how Moore wants us to believe history is, and there's clearly been significant research into many of the real-life historical figures whose lives are embroidered and colorized in Voice of the Fire. There's no doubt that some passages are tricky to digest, particularly those with odd language such as 'The Sun Looks Pale Upon The Wall,' the haunting 1841-set meanderings of another poor citizen who's not quite there. However, if you can wade through the occasional story featuring difficult prose, dense layout and strange language, the rewards can be significant. Plus, the gorgeous new full-page color illustrations/photos, courtesy Jose Villarrubia, add a little visceral flavor to the mix no matter how dense the prose.
Comparisons in terms of genre or content are tricky, though, among the stories that make up this book. What Moore definitely shares with the writer of the introduction to this new version, Neil Gaiman, is a sense of myth, of half-remembered deities and supernatural forces existing in the real world, as Gaiman depicts in American Gods . But Moore's supernatural forces are much more shamanic, much darker, and largely less substantial, except for a truly scary vision unearthed from a medieval burial chamber.
As for Moore's previous work, in as much as Promethea is a set of musings on his faith in the mystical, Voice Of The Fire gives those mystical feelings a more sinister edge and spreads them out over centuries. And it might be said that From Hell contains some similar ideas about the mystical significance of geography. But Voice Of The Fire draws no easy comparison even to Moore's own work -- being in a different medium, and focusing on the place he's lived all his life, it's much more personal than much of his other material, almost as if the dark places of his home town's past are being passed down to him.
Moore spent five years writing this book, and even refers to that torturous stretch in the final chapter, which is written by him in the first-person, in which he ties his experiences of Northampton's history to the stories. A daring move, to be sure, and one that Moore himself admits puts him close to the edge, as he muses:
'There are some weak points on the borderlines of fact and fabrication, crossing where the veil between what is and what is not rends easily. ... Walk through the walls into the landscape of the words, become one more first-person character within the narrative's bizarre procession... Obviously, this is a course of action not without its dangers... always the risk of a surprise ending with the ticket to St. Andrew's Mental Hospital.'
But what is Voice Of The Fire really about? Well, the thirteenth character in the novel, and almost certainly the most important, is the town of Northampton itself, looming large over every single character's experience. This is something that Moore has dealt with before -- there's a moment in the massive, monochrome, mystical From Hell where there's an odd 'flash forward' moment - contemporary office buildings intruding on the goings-on of 19th Century London. The same idea of geography subsuming history is true for Voice Of The Fire -- that the people are not a permanent fixture; the location is the only sure thing. Time layers burial ground on murder site on shiny new office development until there's such an odd mixture of old, new, and indescribable that some kind of sinister magic is created.
[There's plenty more about Moore at the comprehensive Alan Moore Fan Site, and the Alan Moore Yahoo group is both knowledgeable and friendly.]
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Re:Graphic novel? (Score:5, Interesting)
After learning that I went back and reread watchmen and found that to be very true. Look at the time on the wall, look at the little things in the paynes and you will see a lot more to the story.
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:5, Funny)
Every little thing in the payne means something and is important. It's much deaper.
Apparently graphic novels don't require spelling abilities any greater than comic books, though.
repectfully disagree... (Score:5, Insightful)
But comic book and graphic novel are basically the same thing, but comic book is so much a pejorative that the term is often avoided in polite company.
Re:repectfully disagree... (Score:2, Insightful)
a graphic novel is to a comic as a novel is to a short story.
It seems to hold out in the cases I've examined.
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:5, Funny)
> Every little thing in the payne
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:2)
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:2, Insightful)
To the rest of the world, comics and graphic novels share the most distinctive characteristics: lots of pictures in cell format with bubble-type dialogue. With most, this equates to no literary value, and for the most part, they're right. Unless my staging a public sock-puppet performance can be considered "theatre".
I have to agree with the other posters who said that the term was used as much due to stigmatization (of comics) than difference in format.
Of
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:2, Informative)
Sandman #19 took the 1991 World Fantasy Award for best short story (making it the first comic ever to be awarded a literary award)
heh. not a Pulitzer prize, but there you go. ah, and not even a graphic novel, but an issue of Sandman. (of course, the compilations might not technically be graphic novels -- I'm not sure where that dividing line is, but I thought it was a comp that picked up the award)
hmm... 1992 for Spiegelman, so I guess Gaiman is correct that he was t
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:1)
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:4, Informative)
You could also compare a graphic novel to a movie, while comic books in general more resemble episodic television. Even when several issues of Spider-Man add up to one big story arc, the result is closer to a single season of a TV show like Babylon 5 than it is to a feature film.
Of course, this definition has been confused by a number of things:
But you get the idea.
Re:Graphic novel? (Score:1)
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Re:Graphic novel? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Graphic Novels == Comic Books (Score:2, Informative)
Today, between continual collecting of monthly comics into compilations and the like, the difference is so blurred that the terms are allmost interchangeable. Pity. It used to be a useful distinction.
Formidable? Hmm... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Formidable? Hmm... (Score:5, Insightful)
The captivation is that once you've entered that realm, and passed that roadblock, you're treated to a wonderfully captivating story that makes you genuinely pissed off when it's over, not because of the ending, just because you want more.
-9mm-
Re:Formidable? Hmm... (Score:1)
Re:Formidable? Hmm... (Score:2)
When I'm done with Hegel, I may not understand his point, may not remember what I just read, and almost certainly will be at a loss at why I was reading it in the first place.
However, that's far behind from 'Ulysses' where I find myself in the same situation around page 40, only to stop and say "f*ck this, let's start over again"... four times too.
That's not to say it's unsurmountable; I just have my doubts it is technically readable. By the fifth time you just get to a point wher
Moore is less (Score:3, Interesting)
Six Thousand Years!!..... (Score:4, Funny)
Neal Stephenson, eat your heart out.
Yep, six thousand years... (Score:3, Funny)
Can you imagine how screwed up Jack Bauer would be if he took that long to find a Presidential assassin/rogue nuclear device/killer virus? And can you imagine how torturous watching the scenes with his wife/daughter/girlfriend/whoever being inept and all girlie woud be if they lasted a few centuries each? You'd kill yourself before the next episode...
Re:Six Thousand Years!!..... (Score:3, Interesting)
Hey!!! (Score:5, Funny)
That Kettle is Damn Black! (Score:5, Funny)
Are you referring to the book or your review?
Alan Moore is a God! (Score:5, Funny)
Oh wait, that's Michael Moore. My bad.
Kudos! (Score:5, Funny)
Finally. A review that doesn't assume we're all super sci-fi geeks and explains who the person is and why we should care about them.
Re:Kudos! (Score:1)
Watchmen and From Hell are graphic novels I keep coming back to at least once or twice a year.
Why? This [generationterrorists.com] is why.
Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:2, Interesting)
House of Steel...you can't get cooler than that.
Re:Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:2, Funny)
"Oh, you mean Captain Carnage. Hahaha! He was one for the books"
"You're telling me! I remember, I caught him coming out of this jewelers. I didn't know what his racket was. I start hitting him and I think 'Jeez! He's breathin funny. Does he have asthma?'" (laughing)
"He tried that with me, only I'd heard about him so I just walked away. He followed me down the street
Re:Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:3, Funny)
Well, that's me convinced! It's all so simple. Just believe in anything that people tell you. Got it. Now, where do I sign up to give away ten percent of my pre-tax income?
Re:Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:2)
Just to be clear, which Bible are we talking about here (and when exactly is Judgement Day, just so I don't cross book with a hair appointment)?
I get confused as there are so many contradictory editions and interpretations and I don't know which one is right one, if you could tell me definitively I'd be ever so greatful!
There is a God - the one in the Bible - fear and believe Him and you will be saved on
Re:Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:2)
According to the mythology, the last being with enough integrity to stand up to this disgusting, genocidal, and absolutely immoral tyrant has had rather bad press ever since.
Re:Bad form to reply to one's own posts, but... (Score:2)
Ralph Nader?
Interesting... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Interesting... (Score:1)
This book is absolutely brilliant (Score:5, Funny)
A+++! Highly recommended if you enjoy calibrating fiction that redefines genres even as it spans them.
I also like his comic books.
Re:This book is absolutely brilliant (Score:2, Funny)
Damn, I haven't even read it and I'm doing it!
-Peter
Re:This book is absolutely brilliant (Score:1)
Re:This book is absolutely brilliant (Score:1)
-Peter
Re:This book is absolutely brilliant (Score:2)
Re:This book is absolutely brilliant (Score:3, Funny)
Nice... but I think you went a bit far when you lapsed into ebayish.
Preview Available Online (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.topshelfcomix.com/preview.php?preview=
Formidable Prose (Score:5, Informative)
Most of the book is quite good, but the last chapter (written in Moore's own voice) is far, far too self-indulgent (and, frankly, uninteresting) to be worth reading.
It's a good book, but not in the same class as, say, Neil Gaiman's writing.
Re:Formidable Prose (Score:5, Interesting)
An important point, of course, is that a similar novel could be written for your town, for any town. We're admittedly lucky that we had Moore to write Northampton's. A good book, worth your time.
Re:Formidable Prose (Score:2, Interesting)
Voice of Slashdot (Score:5, Funny)
[snip]
But what is Voice Of The Fire really about? Well, the thirteenth character in the novel, and almost certainly the most important, is the town of Northampton itself, looming large over every single character's experience. This is something that Moore has dealt with before
from the ooh-make-it-stop-oooh dept.
Read on for GillBates0's review:
There's no question about it - this site is formidable. It is formidable in its complexity, formidable in the connective leaps it expects you to make between stories and comments, and most of all, it can be formidable in its prose. Before I even read Slashdot, I'd heard that the first FP comment of the site is enough to put many casual readers off, and that's not far wrong. The rants of a typical Slashdotter -- confused, immature, possibly mentally deficient, and alone in a world of freedom, love, and, potentially, disaster -- is written in intentionally limited language that the less sharp members of mankind might be imagined to use in 2004. It's not an easy read; this segment is a struggle to decode at times, but the rewards are significant, because the emotions are powerful, and the group-think strong.
But what is Slashdot really about? Well, the anonymous character on the site, and almost certainly the most important, is Anonymous Coward itself, looming large over every single character's experience. This is something that CmdrTaco has dealt with before -- there's a moment in the massive, monochrome, mystical From Hell where there's an odd 'flash forward' moment - contemporary office buildings intruding on the goings-on of 19th Century London. The same idea of geography subsuming history is true for Voice Of AC.
Thanks for the applause *bow*
Also by Moore (Score:5, Interesting)
Ellis [slashdot.org] does this same sort of thing in Authority and Planetary, and to a lesser extent in the non-super-heroic Transmetropolitan which is brilliant, and you should read it ASAP!
BUT... (Score:4, Interesting)
And I'd like to pipe in with Promethea. Its not everyone's cup of tea, being an extended look into Moore magical theories, but its very interesting, and has one of the best artists (JH Williams) in the business who continually astounds me with what he does with layouts and illustration and style switching...
Re:Also by Moore (Score:5, Interesting)
Hey, don't forget Miracleman (aka Marvelman) [continuitypages.com]!
By the end of book three (Olympus) I was completely blown away, and realized that I would never again be able to suspend my disbelief regarding ordinary infinite-series superhero comics (X-Men, Superman, etc, which go on and on and on yet nothing important ever changes). How can a world possibly contain living, walking gods and not be changed irrevocably? Alan Moore likes to tell big stories [google.com] with endings, and for that I thank him.Re:Also by Moore (Score:2)
Mistaking "pique" for "peak", as is common on Slashdot, borders on excusable simply because "pique" is not a very common word anymore. Failing to distinguish between "of" and "have" ought to be a source of profound shame.
Re:Also by Moore (Score:2)
You can also buy it from the publisher... (Score:5, Informative)
Psychohistorical Geography...really! (Score:4, Interesting)
I think the Moore comic that best illustrates it is Snakes and Ladders, with Eddie Campbell (always mention the artist!) which is a comic version of a performance piece he did. From Hell's more mystical bits (namely, the long carriage ride through london history) is another great example of it, again with Eddie Campbell.
Anyone with interest in the Alan Moore should read the verbose extended version of his Onionavclub interview, where I almost understood it.
Hmmm (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Hmmm (Score:2, Insightful)
Moore's work, like that of so many other comic book writers of the last decade or so, has readily lent itself to being collected in one trade paperback volume. (Many writers explicitly compose their storylines for this, since it's aparently one of the most lucrative aspects of the comics industry right now.)
Alec Trench? (Score:1)
Alec Trench was the "frustrated unappreciated writer" who--IIRC- it was QUITE a while ago (prog 100 or thereabouts?)-- attempted to leap to his death with his typewriter chained round his neck and then headed off to seek his fortune and reward for true worth in America, silhouetted against the horizon in the last panel, shaking his fist at the unappreciative ingrates he was leaving behind. Beardy, wild
Re:Alec Trench? (Score:1)
Re:Alec Trench? (Score:1)
--
Sal
Writings: saltation.blogspot.com [blogspot.com]
Wravings: go-blog-go.blogspot.com [blogspot.com]
Northampton (Score:1)
so what's special about this (Score:1)
hell I'm from Northampton, what's all this "*intentionally* limited lanaguage" crap? Language full stop is a minor miracle for us Northamptonians, so you boffins can fuck off and leave us alone.
I catch a whiff of plagiarism. (Score:2)
Re:I catch a whiff of plagiarism. (Score:1)
Dunno about plagiarism, but I'm not surprised if it's not a totally originally idea -- most ideas aren't :-) See also The Stone Book Quartet [wikipedia.org] by Alan Garner for a smaller-scale example: four short stories around Manchester / Alderley Edge, spanning a couple of hundred years, IIRC. I really loved it because of the rich use of dialect -- I felt like had to guess the meaning of 5% of the words from context!
I haven't read Ulverton [amazon.com], though it's been recommended to me. I read another of Adam Thorpe's, Pieces [amazon.com]
Re:I catch a whiff of plagiarism. (Score:2)
Re:Back in the old days... (Score:2, Insightful)
Do you invalidate cinema and television in comparison with radio? Do you prefer reading scripts to attending plays?
The comic vernacular is no more monolithic than any visual medium. The level of quality follows Sturgeon's Law, much as every creative discipline tends to.
That means that there's a lot of crap (98 percent if I remember correctly) and some stunning, original, compelling fictio
Pretentious? Moi? (Score:1)
Amusing.
Whoops! Too late.
A story expressed in simple text is not intrinsically superior to one expressed in another medium.
A painting is not automatically better than a sculpture because it has fewer dimensions. Mime is not automatically better than theatre because it has no words. A modern movie is not necessarily worse than a silent movie because it provides actual voices instead of relying on the audience's imagination.
The key distinction between a simple nove