Godzilla To Retire (for now) 241
ackthpt writes "CNN is reporting that Toho, after 50 years and 28 films, will be retiring Godzilla (Gojira in Japan) after this years film. Toho has thought of retiring the venerable monster before, but after pulling the stops to make a special Best of Best this may be it (but you never know, particularly if it draws large audiences)"
So long and thanks for all the fish! (Score:4, Funny)
Happy for another reason... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Happy for another reason... (Score:5, Funny)
I shit you not. A whole fucking page full of Godzilla/Bambi jokes.
(not so) Happy for (yet) another reason... (Score:3, Funny)
thank you (Score:2)
Re:Happy for another reason... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Happy for another reason... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Happy for another reason... (Score:5, Informative)
I don't know about other geeks, but I remember this being in heavy circulation during the early 80's when cable was first trying to get a toe hold in American households.
Cable channels were still having difficulty selling ad time to fill in between show breaks, so many early cable channels filled the time will short subjects. It was a golden era for the short subject, and "Bambi Meets Godzilla" was a frequently used choice for filling air time.
Another short I rememeber was about the job hunter visiting an abandoned office in reply to an interview request. It turned out the office was empty because of a reel of carnivorous magnetic tape. (I kid you not.) Despite briefly fending it off with a magnet (which caused it pain), he was eventually "mummified" and digested by the tape. The end of the short had the unrolled tape perched in front of a typewriter creating another interview invitation letter... I also have memories of an animated short about "skywhales."
I could go on and on with the nostalgia. The era ended with MTV and it's bastardization of the short as the "music video." It also had the side effect of increasing the presence of advertisements on cable.
Re:So long and thanks for all the fish! (Score:5, Funny)
It turns out that the CNN mistranslated the Japanese; Godzilla is not retiring.
He's just changing his name to "Firebird", I mean, "Firefox".
Mojira ? (Score:4, Funny)
FireBird - FireFox - FireGates (Score:2)
cLive
Re:So long and thanks for all the fish! (Score:2, Funny)
Good Luck, Big Guy (Score:5, Funny)
Hail! King of the Monsters!
ps. don't attack my city
Mind your manners... (Score:5, Funny)
Shouldn't that be 'please don't attack my city'?
I'd certainly be polite to the 400-foot monster under those circumstances. Or any circumstances, really.
Re:Mind your manners... (Score:3, Interesting)
A few years ago I traveled to Japan. One thing that struck me about the place was just how skilled the model and set builders for the Godzilla movies had been. Their work was obviously a finely crafted copy of the real locations. Minus the destruction obviously the area was near photo copy of scenes from various such Movies.
I have a great respect for the motion picture skills of the teams who did these movies. Their stories and plots may have been a bit hokey but they definitely did a great job in enter
Re:Good Luck, Big Guy (Score:5, Funny)
28? (Score:5, Funny)
Actually, you do know (Score:5, Informative)
That's pretty much telling us there's not going to be another sequel for a while no matter what. At least, unless you think he's lying.
Re:Actually, you do know (Score:5, Insightful)
No matter he said all that last time?
It's a marketing trick, and not a new one, by any means. Looks like it is already working, so more power to him.
Re:Actually, you do know (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Actually, you do know (Score:2)
The marketing is in Japan, primarily - point being that is the target market, logic, etc...people outside of Japan aren't really part of the mix in terms of being expected to factor in, so to speak. There's no question the plan will work, believe me
Re:Actually, you do know (Score:5, Funny)
Speaking not as a mocker, but as a true Godzilla fan (one with a room full of memorobilia and who already owns films 1-26, several in various versions) I have to ask:
Intellectual investment? What the hell are you talking about?
Re:Actually, you do know (Score:4, Interesting)
A harikari of the career, if you will.
Re:Actually, you do know (Score:5, Insightful)
*by nobody, I, of course, mean everybody.
Re:Actually, you do know (Score:3, Insightful)
(Oh, that's right. That'd be "never, 20 years at a time". Oh well.)
Re: Actually, you do know (Score:5, Funny)
> That's pretty much telling us there's not going to be another sequel for a while no matter what.
Well, maybe one more... but you know they've got to stop before they get to Godzilla XXX.
Marketing at it's best :) (Score:5, Insightful)
Go'zilla isn't going anywhere...the press will see to that. This will simply be another comeback spike. It worked before and it will work again, and that's a good thing
Re:Marketing at it's best :) (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Marketing at it's best :) (Score:4, Insightful)
I'd like to see a Godzilla-Deon matchup though, hopefully with a similar outcome to Godzilla-Bambi.
Re:Marketing at it's best :) (Score:3, Funny)
Retiring, or just resting... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Retiring, or just resting... (Score:5, Funny)
The title says it best (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Retiring, or just resting... (Score:2)
Re:Retiring, or just resting... (Score:2, Funny)
. . .they're unwilling to simply milk a cash cow or popular brand name because it'll make money with [a] potentially inferior product.
Inferior? HE HE HE! So, I take it you've never seen Godzilla?
Re:Retiring, or just resting... (Score:2)
I presume that the movies are glorious.
Nice 3-digit UID, though. Gotta respect that.
But wait! No! (Score:4, Funny)
Er...
Ryan Fenton
Re:But wait! No! (Score:5, Informative)
Well, Godzilla has its own statue in Yurakucho (a district of Tokyo),
so I thought I'd go and check for you...
And indeed, Gozdilla may look huge [cool.ne.jp]...
But actually, if you don't count the pedestal, he's about the height of a 6 year-old [hi-ho.ne.jp]
So you were right: Godzilla is not huge, even in Japan. It is just special effects (^_^)
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Re:But wait! No! (Score:2, Funny)
We have to type in the URLs by hand? You must work for Microsoft Security.
Re:But wait! No! (Score:2)
And at the unemployment line... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:And at the unemployment line... (Score:3, Funny)
Aw Crap (Score:5, Funny)
'Coz that would have been cool.
-err...
Re:Aw Crap (Score:2)
"Reptar on Ice!"
You parents know what I'm talking about.
Re:Aw Crap (Score:2)
It's rather upsetting.
Re:Aw Crap (Score:5, Funny)
"There's a large reptile devouring Tokyo" "What is it"? "It's a large city in Japan, but thats not important now"
Bambi Meets Godzilla (Score:2)
Damn! (Score:5, Funny)
They never even got a chance to do Godzilla vs. Mozilla
ecen better, a team up! (Score:2)
Godzilla must fight mothra
while Godzlla is distracted, those space aliens try to put a mind control virus on the internet*, only to have it fight Mozilla!
this could explain pop-ups.
Toho runs some of the best movie theaters in Tokyo (Score:5, Insightful)
It still costs an arm and a leg to see a movie here, but the theaters are much more comfortable than any that I've been to in the US.
Godzilla ought to be retiring. The threat of environmental damage and subsequent mutations caused by a nuclear waste spill has been shown to be a Chicken Little cause. As more countries shift their means of electricity production to nuclear, we have seen a progressive reduction of air pollution in those countries. In the US, coal and oil are still the primary means of power generation, and it shows when looking at statistical charts how much pollution per capita is produced by Americans.
Godzilla ought to be retired because the reasons that he was brought forth in the first place are gone. A new creature, relevent to today's global threats ought to be created so that kids can learn about those threats in an interesting and entertaining manner. Whether the threat ought to be fossil fuel pollution, terrorism, or global warming, bringing the issues to the public in an easily digestible and entertaining medium is the first step towards educating everyone about the dangers posed by these global problems.
Re:Toho runs some of the best movie theaters in To (Score:5, Insightful)
Godzilla ought to be retiring. The threat of environmental damage and subsequent mutations caused by a nuclear waste spill has been shown to be a Chicken Little cause. As more countries shift their means of electricity production to nuclear, we have seen a progressive reduction of air pollution in those countries. In the US, coal and oil are still the primary means of power generation, and it shows when looking at statistical charts how much pollution per capita is produced by Americans.
True, but Godzilla wasn't really about nuclear power. Godzilla was all about the nuclear bombs that the United States dropped on Japan.
The effect that Hiroshima and Nagasaki had on the Japanese psyche was simply incredible. It instantly broke the will of the Japanese to fight, enabling the Americans to come in and transform their society. The scars still haven't completely healed. Every time you see some post-apocalyptic anime/film/book come out of Japan, you can bet that it was influenced by the atomic bomb.
Gojira was just a natural outgrowth of that. Look at the original story: A huge amoral destructive force comes from abroad and lays waste to Japan. Conventional weapons are useless against it, and it destroys the Japanese military. The monster is only stopped by the use of a weapon that is so terrible that the creator would rather die than see it unleashed upon the world.
Gojira was always a bomb reference. As long as we have super-weapons, he'll never be irrelevant. I'll miss the big guy.
Re:Toho runs some of the best movie theaters in To (Score:3, Interesting)
The Japanese military was thrilled to go toe toe superweapon to superweapon with the Americans. The Japanese people obeyed the will and word of their God-King. (Don't forget unit 731 and their already weaponized biological arms)
And as much as Godzilla was about the aftermath of the atomic bombs it was also about the promis of an uncertain future technology might bring, for better or ill, only to be realized after the dye was cast, and of course the mercurial nature of US foreign poli
Re:Toho runs some of the best movie theaters in To (Score:2, Insightful)
If by "instantly" you mean that we had to bomb them conventionally again and they were still prepared to go down to the last, man, woman and child if the Emperor called them to, than yeah, I guess.
KFG
oh oh I know (Score:2)
Nyuk.Nyuk.Nyuk.
Do you think at anytime people actually bilieved nuclear waste would bring out giant lizards/people/any damn bug on stock footage?
geez, thats what none technology is for, Guh.
Re:Toho runs some of the best movie theaters in To (Score:2)
Benefit... (Score:3, Insightful)
I would rather see a japanese guy in a rubber suit step on model trains for an hour than see the most expensive 3D technology used to string together a movie with plot elements so stupid it makes my eyes bleed!!!
Re:Benefit... (Score:2)
And G2k was hilarious. Watch it with friends over beers, mst3k style. Endless material in that one.
Re:Bleeding Eyes (Score:4, Insightful)
2000 tried to be serious.
There were some greate scenes in 2000, but it was more like the king kong theme(especially the ending) then it was the Godzilla theme.
That said, If you like old sci-fi, I highly suggest you rent the FIRST Godzilla. It is done spectacullarly well. Better then many of the 'Sequals'
Of course, if you hate any sci-fi deemed 'old' then stay away from it. I hope this isn't the case, beasue there are a lot of good sci-fi stories that have been put out pver the last 80 years.
Re:Godzilla 2000 is a tour - de - force! (Score:2)
Slightly off topic (Score:2, Offtopic)
LS
Re:Slightly off topic (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Slightly off topic (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Slightly off topic (Score:5, Informative)
Godzilla, giant monster, dead at 50 (Score:5, Funny)
USA gets the reissue of the first one this summer! (Score:5, Informative)
it'll be sad they are not making more, but we still will have 28 movies to watch.... that's not too shabby. i have to admit i am just psyched to see the first one in a theater.
Teaser/trailer on apple.com [apple.com] for the reissue. fun fun fun!
Re:USA gets the reissue of the first one this summ (Score:2)
Thank god for that. You know, despite being a Godzilla fan I've never actually seen the original. It never gets broadcast, and it's not available on DVD that I've found (I'm in the UK).
Anyone know differently? Does the original exist, preferably on a region 2 DVD?
Cheers,
Ian
"American" version of 1954 Godzilla is on Region 1 (Score:3, Informative)
However, this should not deter you, if the 1954 American version is all that you can find (understand, I mean the augmented version that was prepared by Toho for release in the US, back in 1954). The movie still holds together pretty well. Remember that Raymond Burr was gett
Retirement and boredom (Score:5, Funny)
In a couple months he'll start a consulting business.
Final Godzilla plot summary [*SPOILER*] (Score:5, Funny)
Remember folks, you heard it here first.
Darn globalists! (Score:2, Funny)
Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (Score:2, Interesting)
Dear Blue Lobster:
I read that one of the largest crayfish ever found was 90lbs and 6 feet long. They found it in Louisiana in 1934 and named it Ol Papa Epice. They did not say, but I assume it would be a Red Swamp cray since they are native to that area. Does anyone know if this is true? I found this info at www.somaradio.ca/~minimalism/crawdad.html. I could not find any other info on it though. If anyone has any info on this please email me. It sounds crazy, but I dont know why it would be made
He'll be back... and you'll watch it again! (Score:2, Interesting)
Godzilla!
Seriously, I liked some of the newer films that they released. The costumes have gotten to the point where you don't have to work hard to get past the whole "man in a rubber suit" issue. The city models have also gained an incredible level of detail. It's a shame really, but hopefully in a decade or so they'll bring him back.
After all, you can't actually kill Godzilla. No matter what you may think you've seen or read, he always comes back again. He cannot die.
Godz
Re:He'll be back... and you'll watch it again! (Score:5, Funny)
you know the rest
That sound you hear... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:That sound you hear... (Score:5, Funny)
Yes. And the insurance premiums in Tokyo just dropped by a third. Particularly for that petrol station. Yes, that petrol station. You know the one. I think it was trodden in all twenty-eight films...
Cheers,
Ian
Godzilla & Michael Dell to Collaborate (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Godzilla & Michael Dell to Collaborate (Score:3, Funny)
I'm afraid ... (Score:2)
Godzilla will retire from making movies in order to serve MPAA as an enforcer, to scare movie downloaders
great entertainment (Score:2, Interesting)
great miniature sets, throbbin music, and the lady with the big ears.
You gotta love these movies. Just rent one, with
a big bag of popcorn and a six pack. Sit back and
watch the "big fellow" destroy Tokyo.
My son, when he was very young, even came up with a dance called the Godzilla Stomp.
Thats a shame.. (Score:5, Funny)
Oh wait, GODzilla. sorry..
Kaneko's Godzilla was good (2nd best) (Score:2)
And those pupil-less eyes. Cool.
No dammit, he's not retiring. (Score:5, Funny)
I for one ... (Score:5, Funny)
So when do we get the Mothra spin-off sitcom, and the Gamera E! True Hollywood Story?
Re:I for one ... (Score:3, Funny)
extinct (Score:2)
Japan Retires Godzilla (Score:2)
Suuuuuure he's retiring (Score:2)
To return as a villain on Power Rangers? (Score:2)
Lycra? Hmm.. now, X-Men vs Godzilla.. maybe that'd have mileage.
This calls for AMERICAN GODZILLA 2!! (Score:3, Funny)
PLEASE make another American Godzilla.
Back in 1996, Toho killed Godzilla in Godzilla vs Destroyah, and "Minilla" (aka Baby Godzilla aka Son of Godzilla aka NOT THAT FUCKING MUPPET AGAIN) took over as the "new Godzilla". This was Toho's way of saying, 'We will not make Godzilla movies anymore.'
Then the WONDERFUL Godzilla 1998 arrived... And the Japanese were so OUTRAGED that they demanded a new Japanese Godzilla.
So we got the kick-ass Godzilla 2000, and the following very entertaining Kaiju flicks. You guys gave us 5 more years of "Godzilla borrowed time".
So PLEASE MAKE GODZILLA 2 and repeat the magic!!
P.S.: If you like Japanese SF, check out "Returner", also from Toho. Nice special effects, derivative but highly enjoyable story.
Re: This calls for AMERICAN GODZILLA 2!! (Score:3, Funny)
> PLEASE make another American Godzilla.
I want to see Godzilla invade California and governer S fight him off.
Weren't they going to sue Mozilla? (Score:2)
Clickable link (Score:2)
Monster Island (Score:2)
(Don't worry, it's just a name)
Not Strictly Correct (Score:5, Funny)
A select group of original Godzilla developers have licences the genome and starting a new project, OpenGodzilla, which will allow the innocent victims of primeval sea-dwelling beasts to view and contribute genes to the monsters that destroy their lives.
Senior OpenGodzilla developer Owyabitme Muvathuka said that people have traditionally had no input into the supermonster design process leading to poor quality genetics and weaknesses to conventional weapons that proper review of the code would prevent, and hailed an era of free-as-in-beer, invincible terrors.
Thank God! (Score:3, Funny)
Godzilla To Retire
Thank God!!!!1!
--
Pan T. Hose, PhD
Skyscraper Construction Consulting Services
Tokyo, Japan.
We're safe now. (Score:4, Funny)
Firefox to be renamed Godzilla (Score:2)
In related news... (Score:3, Funny)
...Godzilla said today that after winding up his acting career he intends to move into politics, and will be running for Governor of the Kyoto Prefecture next year.
I never understood... (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, Emmerich's German-American Godzilla in New York had pretty decent effects, but a dull story.
The Japanese Godzilla films often have a good or at least a cute story (*), but really really bad effects. And bad acting. And bad costumes. And bad props.
(* I just _loved_ one Godzilla film that included an UFO traveling to the WW2 era. An American soldier spots it and says to his superiour: "Do we report this, sir?" "No, they wouldn't believe us, anyway. But you can tell your children about this when they're older, Major Spielberg.")
So why don't the Japanese filmmakers get together, set up a decent special effects budget and a good script and make THE ultimate Godzilla movie? It's their national trademark, after all. They should know, shouldn't they?
"If you cut me down ... (Score:3, Funny)
I can see it now: