Bicycling Science, Third Edition 345
Bicycling Science, Third Edition | |
author | David Gordon Wilson |
pages | 476 |
publisher | MIT Press |
rating | 10 |
reviewer | Simon DeDeo |
ISBN | 0262232375 |
summary | A technical look at two-wheeled self-propulsion blending engineering and physiological savvy. |
Released this April, David Gordon Wilson's updated Bicycling Science fills the gap between, on the one hand, shop manuals and training guides, and on the other the contemporary literature on human powered vehicles. Wilson, Professor Emeritus at MIT, navigates physics and physiology to produce a hefty source of insight.
Wilson splits his book into three broad sections -- the biology of human power generation, the physics of turning complicated muscle motions into linear velocity, and radical redesigns of the standard diamond bicycle frame.
The first section explains, among other things, the role of oxygen uptake and distribution, and gives empirical and theoretical backing to some, but not all, of the conventional wisdom surrounding cycling. The curious will find a detailed explanation of why high pedal cadence allows for long-term, low-intensity, high-efficiency power generation. Modifications to the standard choices -- from elliptical chain-wheels to hand-powered cranks -- are analyzed critically.
The second section might be jokingly termed "extreme high school physics." Wilson explains how people intuitively balance and steer on two wheels, and the design of braking systems to avoid flip-over. He gets down-and-dirty in the metallurgical literature to explain the role of metal fatigue in frame failure, and into fluid dynamics to discuss air drag in laminar and turbulent air flows.
Wilson manages to give a sense of how the different demands physics makes on all aspects of bike design cohere into the more-or-less efficient system that we recognize today as the road and mountain bike. Wilson is an innovator, but he has a healthy respect for current designs along with a good deal of skepticism for passing fads such as that for ultralight components.
The final section covers Wilson's love: the radical redesigns of human powered vehicles to enable people to not only cover vast distances or reach high speeds, but also to swim, submarine, fly and even hover or flap on the power -- between 100 and 700 W -- the "NASA standard" man or woman can provide on timescales between hours and seconds.
The text occasionally jumps into a wider historical and social context to provide lighter relief, such as the diagrams that compare cycling's efficiency to other modes of of transportation (cyclists handily undercut a fully loaded diesel commuter train for calories expended per rider.) Wilson is not amused by those who would compare cyclists to dolphins or hawks in terms of efficiency, distance, or speed -- too bad. A brief rant against cars near the end is the exception to the rule of Wilson's professional, honest style.
Bicycling Science can be used as a handbook for the armchair designer of human powered vehicles. Or, if you prefer, as a way to answer the nagging science questions that arise after a thoughtful bike ride. Perhaps its most inspiring use, however, is as a bed-table compendium of stand-alone investigations into what engineers have come up with on a device that has been perfected, again and again, for decades longer than the internal combustion engine.
You can purchase the Bicycling Science, Third Edition from bn.com. Slashdot welcomes readers' book reviews -- to see your own review here, carefully read the book review guidelines, then visit the submission page.
I read the second edition. (Score:5, Funny)
I didn't read it. (Score:2, Informative)
Bikes the top geek transportation method? (Score:4, Funny)
Top geek transportation method - Irish mail (Score:4, Interesting)
You'll fit in real good at the scientist loony bin in the "She Blinded me with Science" music video. If it looks out of place there (like a regular bike would), it is not "real geek".
Re:Bikes the top geek transportation method? (Score:4, Interesting)
I'd love to put a laptop somewhere on it, but I have yet to figure out what it should be used for, and I dont want to put wi-fi on it.
One use... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Bikes the top geek transportation method? (Score:4, Interesting)
High tech trends... (Score:3, Funny)
(It's still a great bike...)
Re:Bikes the top geek transportation method? (Score:5, Funny)
What a waste. A segway lasts, what, an hour on a charge, and maxes out at 12MPH. I can ride my bike all day at 12MPH, and I can go significantly faster for distances of under 40 miles.
You can buy a top-of-the-line road bike for what a segway costs, and you'll stay in shape.
In summary: Fuck segway. Fuck it in the ear.
Re:Bikes the top geek transportation method? (Score:2, Funny)
KFG
Re:Bikes the top geek transportation method? (Score:2)
I'm still trying to figure out how the fit the Spinergy wheels though. A Segway just ain't a Segway until it's riding on silk sewups.
KFG
Re:Bikes the top geek transportation method? (Score:2, Informative)
Try it. You'll actually admire how it works. It's not worth $4,000, but it's an impressive piece of technology that does what it's designed to do extremely well. The hardest part of riding it is starting out -- just like, oh, riding a bike. But I can easily see it being the new yuppie way of getting around.
Re:Parent is modded Insightful? WTF? (Score:2)
bah (Score:4, Insightful)
Or in my case, watching the hands-on tinkering of the guy up the street at the bicycle shop. Seriously, after fiddling with the guts of the insides of various PCs all day, the last thing I want to do is rip the back tire off my bike and fix a flat (which is something I currently need to do).
Depends on your viewpoint (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Depends on your viewpoint (Score:2)
Parent speaks the truth (Score:2)
Just 2 weeks ago I was on a 40 mile out and back ride, and at about 16 miles out, I flatted... That was the second time I had gotten a flat, took me a few minutes to swap the tube out, the small pump I keep strapped to my bike was a little slow in filling my tire up, but I was on the road again in under a half hour.
It is also a good idea to carry an extra energy bar on long rides incase you get a flat...
Re:Depends on your viewpoint (Score:2)
h
Re:Depends on your viewpoint (Score:3, Informative)
Tuning the drivetrain is easier than changing a tire, you don't grunt and cuss as much.
Read and learn
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=3874
Re:Depends on your viewpoint (Score:2)
Might be true for someone who has done it before. But not generally true. I bought a used bike and it needed new tubes. I spent probably 20 minutes on the first tire. I got to the other tire and severly messed it up. I took it to a bike shop and they replaced it for like $5.
In contrast, opening up Word requires a two clicks of the mouse.
Re:bah (Score:2)
Seriously, I love tinkering. That's why I own British cars...
Canonical geek sport? (Score:3, Insightful)
Is there any sort of data to back up the claim that either rock climbing or bicycling is a popular among geeks? Among the geeks I know some sort of martial arts is far more common that rock climbing or cycling (i.e. I don't know anyone who climbs or cycles, but many who do martial arts).
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:3, Insightful)
climb occasinally. Indoor mostly.
Cycle if street BMX counts. still trying to pull off a truck driver without landing on my ass.
Just picked up Kendo.
I'd agree that Martial arts are most common. Most of my College RPG club was also in Monday Morning Tai-Chi.
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:2)
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:4, Insightful)
This is not to say that all geeks are this way, or that geeks that are are afraid of other sports, but that a noticable number of geeks find solitary sports more comfortable.
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:2)
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:2)
Is there any sort of data to back up the claim that either rock climbing or bicycling is a popular among geeks? Among the geeks I know some sort of martial arts is far more common that rock climbing or cycling (i.e. I don't know anyone who climbs or cycles, but many who do martial arts).
I'm an ex-climbing gym manager turned programmer in Pittsburgh. The climbing gym was (and still is) packed with researchers and students from the CS department at CMU. And since I joined the world of programming, my con
Martial Arts (Score:2)
1.Tai Chi
2.Kendo (Samurai swordsmanship)
both are very good at clearing the mind.
Great geek sport! (Score:4, Insightful)
"Is there any sort of data to back up the claim that either rock climbing or bicycling is a popular among geeks?"
Anecdotal evidence makes poor statistics, but I climb (prefer outdoors) as does my wife (another geek) and many of our climbing partners are various incarnations of the Geek Genome as well.
I chalk it up (pardon the pun) to three things:
Footnote: It's the shorter climbs that'll kill you. Folks simply don't realize the danger. Without a helmet, a 10 ft fall headfirst onto jagged granite shatters your grape like a fragile egg. Damn shame more folks don't wear helmets when climbing outdoors
And finally, unlike Tribes 2 or your favorite Jumping Cartoon Character game (which I also like ;-) if you screw up on the rock, you stand a good chance of splattering your visceral goo in a very real and lasting way. Something about the stakes of Real Life Physics makes the reward of grokking the system all the more tangible and tasty.
Re:Canonical geek sport? (Score:3, Informative)
Thats like guys who spend $400 on a (fake) platinum and diamond Rolex.
I built my current bike from the frame up...thats geeky.
Wear a helmet (Score:2, Informative)
No *elmet wars! (Score:3, Informative)
research and understand the construction and testing of current style bike helmets, and the serious crash types that lead to blue-screening yourself.
You'll be surprised as to what a foamie can and can't do.
Not saying that a helmet isn't a good idea, but it's assuredly not a panacea, either.
Motorized bicycles (Score:5, Funny)
And geeks could look down on them for using a higher-tech solution than their regular bicycles. Ironic how they see nothing wrong with a Linux Users group, but as soon as it's a Motorcycle Users Group, they're some kind of lower life form.
metaphor (Score:5, Funny)
Boy, I can't pass that up. If the windows NT server next to me were a bicycle, it would be nice and shiney, have one gear (slow), and the wheels would fly off every now and then for no apparent reason, with the random luckiness that it attracts meteorites(i.e. worms and virii) from the sky. But hey I can upgrade to the new even shiner M$ bicycle, which has pretty much all of the features mentioned above, except it is faster because it would be running on brand new hardware (but mostly just attracts meteorites faster too).
Re:metaphor (Score:5, Funny)
Re:metaphor (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, fixed gear and singlespeed bikes are not necessarily slow at all. Track bikes, for example, are fixed gear, meaning no shifting and no coasting. When the wheels are a spinnin', so be the feet. Speed is all about the gear ratio of the chain wheel & rear sprocket, and the cadence of the cyclist. The pros can get up to the 150 rpm range. If they're riding at 52/14 (chainwheel/sprocket teeth; too high for regular riding but good for training and racing) with a standard 210
Re:metaphor (Score:2)
That part of your analogy is poor. Fixed-gear bicycles are extremely reliable, quiet, strong, and require very little maintenance. You can re-gear if a task requires it. Ask a bicycle courier or mountain bike trials rider.
And there's no such thing as a "slow" gear. Horses for courses. It either brings you up to speed quickly but lacks top-end power, or it takes forever to get there but once it's the
Re:metaphor (Score:2)
I don't drive (Score:4, Interesting)
But the bicycle from a broad design perspective has not changed much since its invention, save from a departure from amusingly large front (or is it back) wheels. So it seems to me that the bicycle is far from optimised in terms of muscle use. I've seen various contraptions over the years that I suppose attempt to imrove on this. One that I saw just a few days ago appeared to be powered like a rowing machine. Another more popular variation on the cycle has the rider sit much lower to the ground. But I believe this one only serves to have the rider in a more upright position. So does this book point out the "best" design for the cycle?
Re:I don't drive (Score:4, Interesting)
It's hard to beat a good stiff road bike with high pressure tires for efficiency.
I also bike commute to work (10 miles one way), though I am a car driver as well. I live in Michigan, and since I switched from a road bike to a hybrid bike this year, I'm *considering* biking in the winter, but normally I only get about 5 months a year on the bike. I also don't ride in the rain, though I'm planning on dumping some money into some good goretex rain gear.
When I can't bike, public transportation is NOT an option (this is true in most areas of the country). It's about 5 miles into town to get to a bus stop, and that's a local commuter line; if I wanted to go more than 20 miles, I'd have to get off at the greyhound station 15 miles away and transfer there. Amtrak goes right through town here but I don't even know where the nearest depot is; about 30 miles I think; they don't even slow down through my town.
Still, between my bike and my Ford Taurus, I'm averaging about 120 MPG the last couple of weeks
Re:I don't drive (Score:2)
Still, between my bike and my Ford Taurus, I'm averaging about 120 MPG the last couple of weeks :-)
Does that include gallons of Gatorade, too? :)
Re:I don't drive (Score:2)
maybe when the big one hits they can start over and build these cities with some sanity.
I've always wondred about those "recling" cycles. Are the more effecient or something? I personally think they look incredibly silly, but what do I know I ride a bike with one gear ratio.
The most interesin
Re:I don't drive (Score:2)
'bent newbies tend to be very hard on their knees until they learn to downshift and spin the pedals faster.
They are not necessarily more efficient, but they can be very comfortable on long rides, they can have a ton of cargo space (particularly 'bent trikes) and can tow decent trailers.
The problem with internal
Re:I don't drive (Score:2)
Christini
I'd like to try one, there are definitely situations where, if it works well, it could be really handy.
-Spyky
Re:I don't drive (Score:2)
The bicycle where you saw the rider low to the ground is called a "recumbent". These fuckers really scream, due to the vast aerodynamic advantage over a conventional bike. You see some pretty nerdy dudes riding these.
Anyway, this book doesn't put forth the hard-and-fast "best" design, but merely explains all the physical forces acting on a bicycle so that the engineer can plan acc
Recumbents (Score:3, Informative)
Recumbents are great on the flat but don't climb so well, so they wouldn't necessarily make a great all-rounder but could suit your circumstances. The low position is not the greatest in traffic either.
One of the issues holding back bike evolution is that the racing organisations have strict restrictions on design
Climbing and traffic (Score:2)
As for visibility in tra
Best design (Score:2)
2 dollars? hahaha more like 5! ...plus ref. (Score:2)
Bijker (!) wrote a really good book which discusses the evolution of the bicycle, some of the false starts and ideas which got dropped
Re:I don't drive (Score:2)
I, too, would like to bike to work, but considering it's 10 miles through some of the most insane drivers around with no continuous sidewalk and very narrow streets with no shoulders, I'd rather chew on a
Don't ride on sidewalks (Score:4, Informative)
Oh, and it's usually illegal.
Get a city map, pick some routes that are calmer (i.e., avoid industrial areas, find some back roads, get off the 4 lane commuting routes), and check them out on the weekends. Once you find a good route or two, try it to work. Set a goal of doing it twice a week 6 months a year. You'll never look back.
Re:I don't drive (Score:2)
Ah, yes, but you are more likely to be shot by someone who is late for work if you ride at 25mph on a 45 mph road with all traffic moving a 65 mph.
A recumbent is a superior design! (Score:2)
The single drawback of cycling a recumbent is that you cannot use your body weight at the top of the chainwheel arc for extra drive. But with cleated pedals you can push with one foot and pull with the other on a recumbent. And you have a much lower centre of gravity (read: stability) and a lesser drag profile.
Motorists tend to give you a wider berth too - they seem to respect you as a not-so-average cyclist. A recumbent bicy
Cycling is excellent stress relief (Score:4, Insightful)
I'll buy the book if... (Score:2)
There's a possible psychological explanation: I'm too impatient and competitive to relax and let the gears do the work. But I think there's something more, maybe the force is distributed over the pedal cycle in a way that's less efficient....
Re:I'll buy the book if... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I'll buy the book if... (Score:2)
I ride a fixed gear bicycle, which disallows coasting in favor of a direct mechanical connection between pedals and rear wheel. There is exactly one gear. I find that this helps the psychological aspect of hills -- basically, you know you have no choice but to stand up and work harder, so you just
Re:I'll buy the book if... (Score:2)
Yes, I have to expend energy to go uphill. But the whole point of gears is mechanical advantage: I can spread out the energy cost over a greater distance (ie, a greater number of pedal revolutions), so I can apply less force (energy = force * distance). Accordin
Re:I'll buy the book if... (Score:2)
1) This might seem obvious, but it could be the tire pressure. If you're on a mountain bike, get a pump with a gauge and inflate the tire to 50 psi (check the side of the tire first to see the safe ranges for inflation -- usually 40 to 65 psi). Usually that's the NUMBER ONE reason behind why people find that they're putting a lot of effort into riding.
If you're just eyeballing the tire and feeling it until "it's solid" then you still might be underinflating. Even 20 p
The science of cycling (Score:3, Interesting)
Now I was somewhat suprised to find that more modern bikes are superb machines. Cheap. Reliable. Light and really really fun to ride.
The added benefit of being a) ecologically sustainable and b) acutually *quicker* in the city is just a bonus.....
This one goes out to all those car luvin' geeks. Borrow a high quality bike and see what the rest of us are a raving about.....Do this now.
Re:The science of cycling (Score:2)
Re:The science of cycling (Score:2)
Re:The science of cycling (Score:2)
I'm afraid the old "gas pipe" bikes you remember are the result of market forces, not science or engineering. Suberb lightweight bikes have been available for a long time, although you might have to give up the modern bias against steel to realize it.
Where bikes have really come a long way in their engineering is in their brakes and gear shifting mechanisms. The
ultralight components (Score:4, Informative)
Hardly a passing fad [starbike.com]. People have been drilling their chainrings (and everything else) for as long as there have been hills to climb.
Every day I ride home to the top of my hill I'm glad to be hauling 17 pounds of bike versus 25.
Re:ultralight components (Score:2)
Re:ultralight components (Score:2, Interesting)
Besides the 6.8kg weight minimum, there's the "double diamond" frame design restriction, that effectively bans all non-traditional frame designs from upper level racing. Trek, Softride, Kestrel, and a number of other companies have designed some very novel wind-cheating non-traditional frame designs--ostly revolving around el
Re:ultralight components (Score:2)
Re:ultralight components (Score:2)
I agree that weight is a real issue and not just a fad. However, I'd much rather have a 20 lb bike that lasts 5 years than a 17 pound bike that lasts 2 years.
I'm a serious mountain biker. I'll spend $2000 on a bike, but I'll never buy XTR components [shimano.com]. Sure if you're professional racer, then you're likely getting a new bike every year anyway and that extra pound is worth the money (especially if you're sponso
Re:ultralight components (Score:3, Informative)
Serious cycling [amazon.com] is an excellent book by a former US Olympic cycling coach that addresses this. I don't remember the exact numbers, but it goes something like this:
-a one pound reduction in bike weight will save a cyclist 2 seconds over the course of a kilometer
-a simple reduction in aerodynamic drag, such as replacing 36-spoke wheels with disc wheels will save a cyclist 40
Re:ultralight components (Score:4, Interesting)
Sure there are fads, and they pass, but most of the time, Joe Average bike user isn't going to be concerned with it, becaus a Joe Average bike shop bike (not a department store bike) sees those development years after the "lightweight, passing-fad" parts have been put through the evolutionary wringer of the market. If the design concept works, it trickles down into Joe Average bikes -- things like aluminum frames, indexed shifting, threadless headsets, etc. -- and if it doesn't work or is too expensive to be anything but a high-end product, then you won't see it on entry-level bikes. Things like titanium bolt sets (expensive, not worth the weight savings) come to mind.
The last two to three years have brought some seriously interesting developments, some of which I suspect will be see in Joe Average bikes within 5 years -- the aforementioned carbon seatstays, scandium-aluminum alloy framesets, paired-spoke wheels, etc.
Just because the market is being used to filter out what works and what doesn't, doesn't mean that every attempt at a lightweight part is a passing fad.
Taking over the world??? (Score:2)
Ok, come on, maybe the iPod is a pretty successful device but apple has never been further away from world market share in terms of desktop computers than it is now. With cheapo Windows machines and Linux on the other side they had to come up with a success. The iPod might have saved their lives but world domination is waaaay out of reach.
I cycle (Score:2)
Really? (Score:3, Funny)
Which planet are we talking about?
recumbency has its advantages :) (BikeE rant) (Score:2, Interesting)
As recumbents go, bikeE bikes are (or were, since the company is now out of business, but *are* in that their products still exist
Re:recumbency has its advantages :) (BikeE rant) (Score:2)
2. Cost. Prices in the recumbent market are dropping. There are a number of excellent 'bents out there for less than $1000, and some good ones as low as $500. You'll pay only a slight premium for a recumbent over a similar-quality road or mountain bike these days (see RANS, Burley, Lightning, Sun for a few
The world's most efficient form of transportation (Score:2, Interesting)
Mod parent up (Score:2)
Gosh darn it (Score:3, Funny)
Thanks for destroying my illusions of normalcy, Slashdot!!!
I'm a geek and I love bicycles. (Score:2)
1. They are quite easily the most efficient means of transport there is. By a long way.
2. I have a recumbent bicycle. Actually a Pashley PDQ [pashley.co.uk] based on the Counterpoint design. Sunbed and exercise bike in one.
3. Cycling keeps you healthy.
4. It moves you from A to B rapidly, quietly and with minimum environmental impact. Soon after crude is $100 per barrel, cyclists will reclaim their rightful place at the top of the roaduser hierarchy. Grr.
5. I have a quasi-religious belief that in The
Re:I'm a geek and I love bicycles. (Score:3, Insightful)
Sit down by the side of the highway some time, and count the number of single occupancy vehicles vs the number of soccer teams on the road. There are reasons we're talking about single commuters.
(from the author) Replies to some Qs (Score:5, Informative)
* Riding in traffic exhaust: there is no good discussion of bike-car interactions. (I recommend Effective Cycling, John Forrester, pub. MIT Press, for lots of statistical and practical information on this subject.) Unfortunately, neither EC or BS cover exhaust; I remember some studies done before gas (petrol) went unleaded in London that showed elevated lead levels in cyclists. Not sure how the trend to LEVs has helped.
* Effeciency of the bicycle design. It is definitely the case that recumbents are more efficient. This is in large part due to wind resistance. In general, designs that allow for continuous motion (e.g., circular motion of pedals) are far better than pumping (discontinuous change of direction), and that's what we've got. Attempts to make the pedal motion more efficient on the upright have not been too successful -- it seems we adapt well and smooth out the minor troubles.
* Bicycle weight: yes, I was wrong to call it a "new" trend to drill out chainwheels and generally obsess over grams. The new trend is perhaps the use of Ti and exotic compounds to lessen weight without sacrificing strength. In any case, even a one pound change in the weight (very large for the obsessives) has little effect on efficiency compared to, e.g., tire pressure, out of alignment parts, chain loss, &c&c. Lance needs it, but Lance has a team of engineers to keep everything else in check! Check it out!
* My comment on the traffic "rant." I am a huge anti-car person when it comes to urban design, and I generally agree with the conclusions of his rant. However, he makes some unsubstantiated claims about traffic flow in order to support his argument, and I just don't think they hold up. It is in stark contrast to the rest of the book, where he is very careful to cite and discuss the evidence for even the most "obvious" assertion.
* Climbing and cycling are totally the geek sports! No question. They are problem solving sports, where you combine smaller syntactical units to form original solutions to constantly changing conditions. (Martial arts fits this description very well, as well.) In cycling, the problem solving happens "offline" and during training, of course, where as martial arts and rock climbing are live. Compiling C versus interpreting LISP, I guess.
Thanks, all who contributed and will contribute! It is fun to see people's opinions, and to discover the number of /bikes.
Bicycle Economics, Physics, and Culture (Score:3, Interesting)
This is Kwajalein (9Nx167E), where I currently live. Green one-speed Huffys rule here - flat terrain, and why spend more than $90 if the damned thing's gonna be a pile of rust powder inside of 8 months? The most popular mod is a 3-foot extension of the handlebar yoke so you can rest your forearms on the handlebars without bending over. Bike trailers are a must, for transporting large boxes home from the post office or schlepping SCUBA tanks to the beach. Adkins diet is a killer, because you need carbs to pedal a bike, go figure! And most important, there are many more bikes than the few government vehicles prowling around, so bikes rule the road - yeah!
The local store has brought in aluminum-frame bikes with 4-speed internal transmissions - they'll last about 2 years before the steel components go. I have one, sprayed a couple of coats of clear Krylon on it, and it's still going after a year and a half - did have to replace the chain. But at $300 apiece, the economics of the green Huffy still rule.
Some folks with time on their hands will scrounge parts from Bicycle Heaven (where all rusty bikes go) to build their primary tranporation - hey, what's a little rust, or a off-true wheel that shoves the seat up your butt, when all you need is a ride from the dorm to the chow hall?
We do have competitive cyclists on-island, and they get into the standard stuff - aerodynamics, lightweight materials and such. But we also have folks who compete in the annual triathalon (aptly called "The Rustman") with "Kwaj-condition" bikes.
All this to say it's been interesting living in a world where bikes really do rule...
Tired of being a "cycling eunuch"? Try this! (Score:2, Flamebait)
Re:Tired of being a "cycling eunuch"? Try this! (Score:2)
Useless (Score:2)
To avoid numbnuts, adjust the height correctly, wear padded bike shorts, and ride a correct width saddle.
Oh, and harder is usually better than softer. The seat doesn't break in, your ass does.
Re:Useless (Score:2)
Re:Useless (Score:5, Informative)
Sit on it, and rock your pelvis forward a little.
Notice the two major depressions? Those are your pelvic bones. That is what you want to contact the seat.
Mark circles on the paper where the depressions are, and take it to a bike shop. Compare it against several seats.
Buy one.
Further info here [sheldonbrown.com].
Amazing (Score:2)
Re:Tired of being a "cycling eunuch"? Try this! (Score:2, Informative)
A far better hardware solution to the problems "solved" by the hornless bike seat is the "crotchless" seat, with a strategically shaped hole or slot in the middle. Terry (a woman's bike company) first popularized these seats marketed towards women, but men liked them enough that Terry introduced a men's model with a different brand. Others have
Re:Tired of being a "cycling eunuch"? Try this! (Score:2)
Beware of saddles that are too soft; if your "sit bones" sink in, it'll let your center bits sink down into the seat and numb up.
Re:Fantastic (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Fantastic (Score:2)
In the US, the regulations regarding on bikes on sidewalks vary from locality to locality.
Also, studies have found tha
Re:Fantastic (Score:2)
For the most part serious cyclists don't even belong on bike paths, its too dangerous for them, the other cyclists, and the people walking their dogs because they don't understand the concept of either "bike" or "bike path." We just go too damed fast for these little noodly things narrower than the average sidewalk.
So get out in the road where you belong, but, wh
Re:Fantastic (Score:3, Insightful)
Every time I see a cyclist on the sidewalks, I get a strong urge to shove something into their spokes. The rules are there for a reason. Some jackass shifted into top speed careening down the sidewalk is going to hurt a pedestrian. They can stay to the right on the streets, and that's that. Get the hell off of my walkway unless you're planning on keeping one foot on the ground at all times.
And seriously, would it kill you bicyclists to operate responsibly on the streets? Just becaus
Re:Fantastic (Score:3, Insightful)
Most assuredly yes.
2) Bike lanes must exist.
On every street? Why? Designated bike lanes add an extra element of confusion into the traffic mix. Wide curb lanes are far, far better. IMHO, of course.
See John Franklins writings [lesberries.co.uk] (particularly on the the Milton Keynes Redway) for examples of why designated, striped bike lanes may not be the best solution.
3) Cyclists should be licensed.
Again, why? Has it helped motorists skills? >40k dead on the roads annually would say
Re:Fantastic (Score:4, Informative)
Not only that, but on streets without bike lanes, the law often dictates that a cyclist ride in the middle of the lane.
-carl
Re:Fantastic (Score:2)
Re:Cycling in exhaust fumes? (Score:3, Interesting)
My understanding is that the people inside of cars have it even worse than the cyclists. There was a study several years back that showed that cars