A Scanner Darkly Film Preview 318
Jason K writes "Hi, webmaster of PhilipKDick.com here. Thought that the Slashdot community might like to see this exclusive report that was just added to the official Philip K. Dick web site by his daughters about the 'A Scanner Darkly' film production. The film production of A Scanner Darkly is based on the classic PKD drug novel of the same name. It is directed by Richard Linklater (Slacker, Dazed and Confused, School of Rock) and stars Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder, Robert Downey Jr. and Woody Harrelson. Linklater is using a more sophisticated version of the 'rotoscoping' animation technique that he debuted in 'Waking Life'. This is shaping up to be the most faithful adaptation of a Philip K. Dick novel or story to date." Waking Life was a little odd.
Keanu Reeves ? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:2, Funny)
Yea, because all his other sci-fi appearance in , Johnny Mnemonic was great
Of course you can't blame him for Matrix 2 and 3, it would have been impossible to rescue those plots.
Then again, aside from Blade Runner, and even that's debatable, have any PKD conversions been anything other than pulp sci-fi?
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:4, Informative)
I'd like to see how any film can be more faithful than that one, because it pretty much reproduces the story word for word.
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:2)
Screamers, despite the title, is a faithful, low-budget, low-key adaptation of "Second Variety." Unfortunately it's also a bit of a bore.
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:2)
Actually, Screamers isn't faithful to the original short story at all. The short story doesn't have any "screamers". It doesn't have any Shakespeare-quoting villains. Or peace negotiations.
Damn you, Dan O'Bannon, for leaving your talent behind in Alien. And curse you, Christian Duguay, for not sticking to Scanners sequels.
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:4, Interesting)
How about The Transmigration of Timothy Archer? Not a shred of Sci Fi there; I doubt Hollywood will take the chance.
VALIS would be a huge challenge. Maybe Linkletter could do VALIS, I dunno. I think I'd rather see Iñarritu (Amores Perros, 21 Grams) direct it.
What's most troubling to me about this Scanner Darkly project is that Keanu Reeves is playing the Bob Artor character. Since they're using the rotoscoping tecnique that Linkletter used in Waking Life, why couldn't they just use the Walmart Happy Face or a sock puppet? It's chit like that that makes me wonder if Linkletter hasn't just become a whore. The only reason you put Keanu in a movie is for boxoffice returns.
The French Love Dick (Score:5, Funny)
You probably already know that Dick was huge in France before he really became popular in the U.S. I think this was because the French, especially the French intelectuals, really enjoyed the thrust of Dick. Well, whatever the reason, those French just really love Dick.
I thought both of those sucked. (Score:2)
But I guess that's what happens when Hollywood rapes the work of a really great writer.
Re:I thought both of those sucked. (Score:2)
Re:I thought both of those sucked. (Score:2)
not always!
I havent read very much PKD. but I did read "Do androids dream of electric sheep" because I had liked blade runner and although I knew that the two storeis were very different I thought I should at least try it out.
(Im going to get hammered for this... so much for that nice karma rating)
I realy didnt like it at all. I found the writing to be kind of childish and the story and concepts to be rather un-interesting. I didnt realy buy into the shared experience of being sisyphus and pushing a ro
Re:I thought both of those sucked. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:2)
Re:Keanu Reeves ? (Score:3, Insightful)
People stopped making Tom Hanks apologize for "Bosom Buddies" a long time ago.
I'm more concerned about "Johnny Mnemonic" (less because of Reeves, more because of how W. Gibson talked it up pre-release) and the headache-provoking animation technique of "Waking Life."
Drug novel... (Score:5, Funny)
Am I the only who thinks that this is overkill for the desired effect?
Re:Drug novel... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Drug novel... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Drug novel... (Score:3, Informative)
So far, Dick's NOVELS aren't getting much into movies - the movies are actually based on his short stories and novelettes, like "Minority Report" or "We'll Remeber It For You Wholesale" ("Total Recall"). In early 1950's Dick was writing short stories like frenzy and actually each and every one of them gives an outline for a great movie. With his novels, however, we have a completely different case. Especially his novels that are more realistic th
Re:Drug novel... (Score:2)
Thinking of "not much SF in it," one of my favorite parts of Man in the High Castle (which would be my #1 choice for movie adaptation) was when they debated if Grasshopper Lies Heavy was indeed SF.
Re:Drug novel... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Drug novel... (Score:3)
Re:Drug novel... (Score:2, Interesting)
A little Odd (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:A little Odd (Score:5, Interesting)
Oh yeah, tits, guns and one-liners sell. Sorry, my bad. :^)
Re:A little Odd (Score:2)
Re:A little Odd (Score:2)
The conversations were initially interesting, but towards the end it sounded like some good ol' preaching wrapped with some psuedo phscology. Not very convincing.
The only tip is , don't watch the movie when you have had 2-3 long islands. Boy that was spinning going on in my head.
Re:A little Odd (Score:2, Interesting)
The animation is beautiful. However, the dialogue sounded like the cheesy ramblings of a 14-15 year old who thinks he's being really deep: "If we're dreaming now, and I'm awake, maybe that means what we call real life is actually a dream..."
The best way to watch that movie is with the sound turned off
Since this new movie is not written by Linklater (although he did adapt the screenplay), I'm sure it will be better, especially if he's applyi
Re:A little Odd (Score:2)
Waking life was *awful*. It was pretentious, and had no substance at all. It was all kinds of conversation-snippets that might seem deep and meaningful if you were either a) dumb, or b) stoned, with only vaguely interesting animation thrown on top.
Really, when a typical Disney movie is more imaginative than an adult-aimed movie, that's pretty sad.
C'mon people. The emperor has no clothes.
Re:A little Odd (Waking life...) (Score:3, Informative)
Re:A little Odd (Score:2)
Although it wasn't a great film by any stretch of the imagination, the animation was great and I think it had its place because the main character was dreaming. It's what I'd imagine dreams would look like if you somehow designed a machine to capture someone's dreams and show them. It wouldn't be a crystal clear picture - objects and colors would shift, things would be exaggerated, etc.
Another thing that the movie does is t
Was going to be Clooney & Soderburgh (Score:2)
You can check it out here: Scanner Pitch [rustmonkey.com] I haven't seen Waking Life, so I can't comment on the rotoshop technique, but the Rustmonkey pitch was extremely cool.
Best First Paragraph in a Novel (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Best First Paragraph in a Novel (Score:3, Funny)
Hmmmm? (Score:5, Funny)
This is going to be the most untintelligible movie ever. No doubt. No question. Nobody's going to know what the hell is going on in the movie, especially not the cast.
Robert, I hope you don't take another stab at rehab. You'll just get disgruntled...
Re:Hmmmm? (Score:2)
Re:Hmmmm? (Score:5, Informative)
Have you ever actually read a Phillip Dick book? That's just how most of his books go. Say your main character gets knocked out during a chase scene. You'd expect that he is captured by his enemies, or escapes and is running from his enemies, or his enemy just escaped from him. In a Dick book, that character is just as likely to wake up, lose at a VR game, or have been in a mental state experimenting with different realities. Oh, he doesn't give you or the character any sense of which reality is the real one either. Was that chase scene real, or was it just a very real VR game? Is this life real or is it a simulation? His books are really confusing.
Re:Hmmmm? (Score:5, Funny)
(Repeat ad nauseum.)
Re:Hmmmm? (Score:3, Funny)
'Most faithful adaptation' is subjective... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:'Most faithful adaptation' is subjective... (Score:2)
But the idea of Rachael and Pris being the same model (in the book) was brilliant.
all a movies adapted from a book owes is to be a good movie;
No, it that were the case there would be no reason to adapt the book at all. If you're going to trade on the good name of a book to draw an audience you have some duty to repay that by giving them something based on what they came to see.
TWW
Re:'Most faithful adaptation' is subjective... (Score:2)
I love the HP books, but the first two movies (haven't seen the third yet) felt flat and uninteresting. It was like a moving illustrated companion for the book.
Re:'Most faithful adaptation' is subjective... (Score:2)
i loathe and detest adults that feel the need to justify (to assholes) about reading a harry potter book.
Re:'Most faithful adaptation' is subjective... (Score:4, Insightful)
In some sense, yes. The Rincewind books are definitely in this vein. On the other hand... the Witches and Guards books, IMHO, have changed significantly from their beginnings, and are no longer humorous. Oh, they've got their funny bits, sure - quite a lot of funny bits, as a matter of fact. But...
"Lords and Ladies"? "Carpe Juggulum"? "Night Watch"? "The Truth"? "Wee Free Men"? Hardly laugh-a-minute riots. They're a little bit darker, a little bit too serious to be classified as comedy. The characters are less caricatures and more believable, more real, and the problems they deal with are... well, problems. The kind that can't be solved by the classic bumbling wizard, or (extremely) experienced barbarian horde, and that sometimes are a bit uncomfortable because they seem too much like real problems instead of parodies of problems.
The change came upon the books gradually, I think, so that it can be hard to notice unless something brings it to your attention. For me, it was "Night Watch", when Carcer and Vimes were up on the University roof, and Carcer said something like:
That sent chills down my spine. It wasn't funny. It wasn't melodramatic. It wasn't a parody. It wasn't even scary, in a typical fantasy/horror way. It was an amoral killer casually threatening the life of a woman and a child - nothing at all like either Monty Python or JRR Tolken.
Dick is more descriptive than prescriptive (Score:5, Insightful)
Probably, it's just that Dick doesn't float your boat. If we all liked tha same thing, what a boring world we'd have.
But I think you've hit on one of Dick's ironies. That people need a box to experience empathy. Remind you of anything?
Anyway, it's not so simple, where one can clear things up by saying whether Dick favored or disapproved Mercerism. In fact, this ambiguity is a major part of the book at the end. Is Mercerism a hoax? Or is it true, i.e., is there an underlying truth to Mercerism that will never be perceivable by the androids?
The love of animals is a central tenet of Mercerism. Yet, as happens in all religions, the expression becomes perverted. Animal ownership becomes a signifier of status, prestige, and even corporate power.
Also, I think that Dick was saying that the values behind Mercerism are central to being human, not whether or not it would be good for humanity.
Anyway, I think that Dick just isn't your cup of tea. Maybe you haven't really suffered, or maybe you've suffered, but haven't suffered enough. If this is the case, I hope you never have to, but if it happens, there are authors like PKD that are great to turn to.
PKD is definitely for the wounded and those that have been crushed. Most of his characters are damaged and flawed, and perhaps they are hard to like if you're not damaged and flawed. Mercer knows I'm plenty of both. I should start a blog or something. =)
Not all his novels are this deep, however. Some of his others, while dealing with interesting issues, are lighter and more fun.
Anyway, sorry if I was a dickhead, but, after all, I am a Dickhead.
Waking life WAS a little odd (Score:5, Insightful)
Once a software developer... (Score:2, Funny)
More like an animated Naked Lunch (Score:2)
Of course this will be amazing! (Score:5, Funny)
The huge movie, UBIK, is coming out next weekend. Hello? Directed by Sam Raimi? Starring Tobey Maguire? And what about the epic trilogy finale coming out next year directed by George Lucas? As the final in the VALIS trilogy, I just hope Lucas doesn't screw it up with all his digital effects. The last two have been amazing, but I'm not sure how PKD would've taken to all the effects Lucas is throwing in there.
It all started when Steven Spielberg launched his own career by filming The Man in the High Castle back in the early 80s. Of course, Ridley's Scott *strict* adherence to PKD's book for the movie, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep helped make PKD the ideal movie source.
PKD is so respected that no one in the film industry would even dare making a subpar movie. Haha - imagine if John Woo got a hold of one of his stories! Geez! I mean, we're running OUT of PKD stuff to make movies out of! You have to be bigtime to be able to film what's left of the "modern kafka" that hasn't already been filmed! Are you guys cra..
Oh, wait. Wait a minute. IMDB only shows a few crappy renditions of PKD movies! WTF!?! WTF is "BLADE RUNNER"?!?? What the hell kind of parallel universe am I in that doesn't make brilliant movies out of PKD writings!!?! And who are these men - CmdrTaco!?! Arresting me for saying too much!? Slashdot controls everything? I don't understand!?.////don't listen to the...
Re:Of course this will be amazing! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Of course this will be amazing! (Score:2)
Re:Of course this will be amazing! (Score:2)
Of course whoever modded this 'Insightful' wouldnt appear to know dick about Dick.
Re:Of course this will be amazing! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Of course this will be amazing! (Score:3, Funny)
Talk about typecast! (Score:5, Funny)
They actually agreed to be in a movie about drugs together? Hollywood never ceases to make me laugh. Hopefully this won't be as bad as a Tom Cruise movie.
Don't know if I can see this (Score:5, Interesting)
This is most likely going to be a great movie, but it will be hard to rationalize going to see such a film. The book was hard enough (emotionally) to handle. After all, I could only see Requiem for a Dream once, and that had me really low for a couple days.
Re:Don't know if I can see this (Score:2)
I remember being slightly hungry before I started watching the movie.. I figured I'd watch some of it, then go get a snack half way through.
That plan fell apart very quickly. By half way through the movie, I was so hooked not only could I not move to get a snack, but I was no longer hungry, and could not move my eyes off the screen or my jaw from the floor.. the movie literally blew me away.
A Scanner Darkly is the first PKD book I ever read. I first heard about it here o
rotoshop (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, after the talk, I asked him about releasing it open source. He wasn't against it, but he wasn't interested in it, either. He mentioned that the open source development method 'worked somehow', but he just wasn't interested in becoming a project manager.
Now I see on the website [flatblackfilms.com] they are planning some kind of release in June 2k6. Interesting!
The PKD story so far... (Score:5, Informative)
Total Recall (1990) based on "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale" - A fun movie vaguely based on the short story.
Drug-Taking and the Arts (1994) based on "A Scanner Darkly" - Alas I've not seen.
Screamers (1995) based on "Second Variety" - An enjoyable movie but nothing special.
Impostor (2002) based on short story of the same name (at last). Okay, enjoyable and starting to get near to the fiction...
Minority Report (2002) - Again, enjoyable but deviating from the book in several critical respects.
Paycheck (2003) - My favourite short story ruined by the "joe scientist" suddenly being some sort of stick wielding stunt biker.
When are Hollywood going to realise the appeal of PKD is that these are ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances?
Instead we keep getting movies aimed a dumb audience with a simple plot and an action hero.
Sigh.
Re:The PKD story so far... (Score:2)
I finally saw this the other day and enjoyed it. talking to a colleague about it the next morning we decided that it could have a fairly decent spin-off tv series. Each week a scientist gets an envelope in the mail containing items he needs to get through that week's adventures.
Makes a lot more sense than "Tru Calling" with a hell of a lot less plot holes. So if that can get a
Re:The PKD story so far... (Score:2)
Also, A Scanner Darkly is the best non-HS Thompson book about drugs screwing wid' ya.
Thank you!!! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The PKD story so far... (Score:5, Informative)
That screenplay had over 40 drafts...
Re:The PKD story so far... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:The PKD story so far... (Score:2, Informative)
Except that movies start their lives as things called screenplays, and I guarantee the screenplay was written (or at least some draft of it) before Anthony started writing the adaptation. Six different people have writing credit for the movie [imdb.com], plus PKD, and none of them is Piers Anthony. Two have credit for the "screen story" which probably means they wrote early drafts of the s
Re:More (Score:2)
"most faithful adaptation"? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:"most faithful adaptation"? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:"most faithful adaptation"? (Score:5, Insightful)
You seem to confuse Philip Dick with Arthur C. Clarke. Dick never wrote science-fiction to anticipate the future. He was more interested in exploring the inner space of human mind. And he was great doing that. You can't credit him as "the guy who predicted satellite TV relays", but you can credit him as "the guy who predicted the atmosphere of corporate paranoia of the late twentieth and early twenty first century". Take a contemporary realistic novel about the corporate world, like Joseph Finder's "Paranoia" [paranoianovel.com]. It's so phildickian you could mistake it for a lost PKD manuscript. Dick was one of the rare SF writers of 1950's and 1960's who understood that human race will enter the world of powerful future technologies keeping their minds as fragile as ever, and was quite accurate in predicting the outcome (paranoia, drug addiction, escapism, the rise of omnipotent corporate moguls - both Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are like characters from PKD novels!). So yes, he thought that punch cards will survive. But he also predicted Microsoft. His books will be antiquated only after a succesful antitrust action against MS, which means when hell freezes over.
Re:"most faithful adaptation"? (Score:2)
Re:"most faithful adaptation"? (Score:2)
That is what makes a good movie adaptation. Since you have a different medium you must change the details of the plot to have good pa
YOU are the problem! (Score:4, Insightful)
As for punchcards being left out--it didn't seem to bother them that the precog results were delivered on balls through pneumatic tubing...LOL.
Alright!!! (Score:4, Interesting)
It's great to hear that this is going to be adapted to film, I thought the premis was so engaging (being sent to spy on ones self) and being from Orange County originally, it held a certain personal sentiment as well.
It is rather sad though that it was not until after PKD's death that his work has such mainstream appeal and revenue associated.
But that is typically the case of the eccentric genius who lies a bit ahead of the curve (Van Gogh, Tesla et al)
Overexposure? (Score:5, Interesting)
And that travesty of one of the canons of science fiction, "I, Robot," does not count! Heh.
What about "Foundation," or the Dragonrider series, "Rama," Larry Niven, or Phillip Jose Farmer? So much rich variety is being ignored.
Re:Overexposure? (Score:2)
Re:Overexposure? (Score:2, Insightful)
Hollywood hasn't butche^H^H^H^H^H^Hused enough material from the greatest SF authors of our time.
I hope they get around to mutil^H^H^H^H^Hmaking movies from all the best works of my favorite SF authors. It would be so much better than what my imagination (coupled with a great book) can envision.
Re:Overexposure? (Score:2)
Re:Overexposure? (Score:2)
Re:Overexposure? (Score:2)
It's not the type of theme I'd expect a studio to gamble with in these times, but I would love to see that story told in images.
Actual Title (Score:4, Funny)
I bought 2 copies of "WL" - look forward to this! (Score:2)
-Mark
"Independent" (Score:3, Insightful)
I have nothing against a studio deciding to do "serious films with modest budgets", but this blatant abuse of the word independent is moronic and, of course, deceiving.
Nope, not at all. (Score:3, Informative)
At the high level, yeah, it's not that independant. But I would bet that no one in the WB management is allowed to have any amount of control over what WB Independant does. If they fuck up and lose millions of dollars they all will be fired but at least some VP can't come down and
Can it be true? (Score:3, Funny)
My Favorite PKD book - please do this one right! (Score:5, Interesting)
I really, really hope that Philip Dick's family and the producers give this project the respect it deserves (the article suggests they might). This novel is in some ways very different from the rest of his work. For all the signature Dick themes present (layered realities, oppressive/unassailable authoritarian regime, pitch-black humor) this also reads as a painful, personal memoir. In his poignant but clear-eyed afterword, he lists friends who died or were otherwise affected by drug use. Dick himself called A Scanner Darkly his "masterpiece." It deserves more consideration than other movie translations of his novels have offered.
Charlie Kaufman's take (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't know about you, but I'd rather see what the writer of Adaptation does with the material.
Why did Gilliam drop it? (Score:2)
Getting Keanu Reeves to play Arctor does not bode well. I mean, in the novel Arctor goes through a whole range of emotions, degrading from a fairly normal human being to, basically, a plant in the end. Reeves will only be able to play the last stage.
The only good
poor web design (Score:2)
Waking Life (Score:3, Funny)
PKD Rocks. (Score:5, Insightful)
That book was quite the head-trip, and with the right director would make an awesome film.
Charlie Kaufman (Score:4, Informative)
It's a shame this means Charlie Kaufman's A Scanner Darkly script [beingcharliekaufman.com] won't ever be turned into a film now, as Being John Malkovich, Adaptation and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind were all great. Hopefully this will be good in its own right though.
Re:Animated LOTR (Score:2, Insightful)
But that's just my opinion :^).
Re:Animated LOTR (Score:2, Insightful)
of course the effects were at times quite disorienting and even disturbing. but as the animation filters were fitted to the actual surroundings, the topic of a discussion and the mood, the imagery took over a part that is usually reserved to the movie score/music.
i found it awesome and groundbreaking in a very sympathetic way, but as always your milage may vary!
Re:Congratulations (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:i have to say downey jr. (Score:2)
I had no specific person in my head as Donna, but I agree that Winona Rider just isn't what I had in mind. However, I think that Courtney Love would be an equally bad choice.
Re:the comic book guy eh? (Score:2)
Re:the comic book guy eh? (Score:2)
Re:It *might* be good... (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah that fuckin jerk ripped off a friend of mine to the tune of a half-elbow of Mexican regs. I'ma punch that fool if I see him around Einstein's or Spider House. Bitch. You think a 'movie star' could afford to pay for his shit, yo.