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HOPE Conference Gets Wozniak, Mitnick, Biafra 184

Posted by simoniker from the exotic-naming-conventions dept.
Emmanuel Goldstein writes "We've gone through all of our submissions, and selected nearly 70 talks and panels for the next HOPE conference in New York City, to be held from July 9th-11th. We have Steve Wozniak, Kevin Mitnick, and Jello Biafra as keynotes, and many more interesting talks and seminars, plus a round the clock hacker movie room and a lockpicking workshop." The official website explains: " This is a conference by, for, and about hackers on as many levels as we can come up with, ranging from the highly technical to the down to earth, from computers to phones, from serious to hilarious. And our doors are open to anyone interested in what the hacker world has to say." We previously ran a story on this conference a couple of months back, before full speaker details were available.
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  • All that's missing is a Phish show (Score:5, Funny)

    by Flounder ( 42112 ) * on Thursday June 24, 2004 @01:39AM (#9515684)
    We have Steve Wozniak, Kevin Mitnick, and Jello Biafra

    Sorry, just the idea of Woz as the opening act for the Dead Kennedys puts a smile on my face.

  • jello (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 24, 2004 @01:41AM (#9515692)
    damn, i'll have to change my holiday plans from cambodia to nyc

  • Round the clock hacker movie room? (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 24, 2004 @01:41AM (#9515693)
    Great! We can teach people to hack UNIX mainframes using 'ls' and 'rm'!

  • Great (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    The only problem now is coming up with a reason for my boss to send me to a hacking conference.

    I doubt he'd even want me to "improve my 1337 hax0ring skillz".

    • Re:Great (Score:5, Informative)

      by Urgo ( 28400 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @01:53AM (#9515732) Homepage
      There is much more to a "hacker conference" then what the media portrays hacking as. Hacking in the true sense, and in the true 2600 sense is the quest for knowledge and questioning things that aren't fair. Yes many things will be spoken about the conference that will 'improve your 1337 hax0ring skillz' but there's really so much more.

      I've been a 2600 goer, off the hook and off the wall listener for over two years now and through it made friends with a lot of great people (shout outs to the ma2600 crowd). At 2600 meetings, and the hope conferences (although I've never attended one) there are panels on everything from social engineering to Abuse of Authority to the patriot act. See a list of panels from the last conference here [2600.com].

      So before making a stupid comment like "I doubt he'd even want me to "improve my 1337 hax0ring skillz"." take a look at the site and reexamine your definition of hackers. There's a lot more then what the mass media labels people as. I will be in the process of moving during the conference so I will be unable to attend otherwise I think it'd be a great educational experience to hear really bright people speak.
      • Is there any comparison between Defcon and this conference?

      • what's your point? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by RMH101 ( 636144 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @04:06AM (#9516112)
        i doubt many corporation's IS managers fancy sending their staff on any trips that go anywhere near the H word. whether that's right or wrong's another matter, but the OP's point was perfectly valid, not a "stupid comment".
        • I doubt many corporation's IS managers fancy sending their staff on any trips that go anywhere near the H word.

          Agreed! Any organization that used 'IS' or 'MIS' to mean 'IT' is so behind the times that they will definately not understand the proper definition of "the H word." Chances are their systems run like shit, too.

          ===---===


      • So you've been to school for a year or two and you know you've seen it all?

        Seriously, 2600 has been around much longer than you have, and you don't seem to have much of a clue about it. "Quest for knowledge?" "Questioning things that aren't fair?" Okay, Sparky - run along to your meeting. Your mother will pick you up at the mall at 8:30.
    • Easy...

      Business is abour ROI, to anti-hack you have to understand hacking.

      The Terminator, a killinging machine, actualy know how to heal. Because to kill you must know how to heal in order to make optimal damage.

      Therefore, "1337 hax0ring 5k122z" will enable you to enhance your awareness of the hacking world, thus better identifing potential faws in the computer system or any potential theats.

      Remember, a security leak can seriously damage the company reputation and fincances. so the ROI should can be eas

  • Goldstein on IMDb (Score:5, Informative)

    by gbulmash ( 688770 ) * <semi_famous@noSpAM.yahoo.com> on Thursday June 24, 2004 @01:52AM (#9515728) Homepage Journal
    Due to his consultant credit on Hackers and "as himself" credits in some documentaries, Goldstein has a page [imdb.com] on IMDb. There's also a photo, but that's due to him or someone representing him submitting it.

    No pictures of Woz on IMDb, but there are photos from Pirates of Silicon Valley [imdb.com] (with one showing Joey Slotnick playing Woz).

    - Greg

  • Has HOPE become the new Comdex?

    This show might be harder to get my boss to pay for. The name might be hard to sell as bing "good for the company" :)

  • Jello? (Score:1, Funny)

    by scr7b ( 731388 )
    That's not a name!!

    • Re:Jello? (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Jello Biafra is the stage name of Eric Boucher, former lead singer of the Dead Kennedys (amongst others). More information on his Wikipedia page [wikipedia.org].

    • Re:Jello? (Score:3, Funny)

      by kfg ( 145172 )
      name n.

      1. A word or words by which an entity is designated and distinguished from others.

      I think it would be hard to claim that the words Jello Biafra do not distinguish Eric from others.

      KFG
  • From complications of diabetes. If he hasn't, as it seems, who on Earth was I thinking of?
    • > From complications of diabetes. If he hasn't, as it seems, who on Earth was I
      > thinking of?

      No idea. Sylvia Plath's father, perhaps? Bill Hicks maybe? I also think of Biafra as Hicks, only without the sense of humour.

  • Comment removed (Score:3, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @02:03AM (#9515768)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • i dunno, i saw jello several times on the punk voter tour, and i found that he didnt have anything very intresting to say. KD rocks, but jello needs to give it up. sorry.
    • and you wouldnt believe how much more the DK rock than the KD ;)

      sorry there

    • Re:jello (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Flounder ( 42112 ) *
      KD rocks

      Let's hear it for Lesbian Country!!

  • Warning... funny name posse... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Fnkmaster ( 89084 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @02:09AM (#9515793)
    Lessee, Woz - greak hacker, check. Mitnick - great hacker/cracker, check. Jello Biafra - founding member of the funny name posse, where he is joined by other people who get an inordinate number of speaking gigs relative to their qualifications, like American McGee, Simpson Garfinkle, and Jennifer 8. Lee. Hmm, I thought geeks were supposed to be smart enough to judge people on their actual merits, not the marketing they do of their name cum public identity. Blah, ridiculous stuff like this makes me lose faith in humanity.

    • Re:Warning... funny name posse... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by madprof ( 4723 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @03:58AM (#9516096)
      Mitnick is not a great hacker/cracker when it came to computer systems, but a great social engineer. He had more balls than a lot of people.
      When it came to breaking in he...knew how to compile programs and move files about certainly.
      Frankly he was a pain in the rear to loads of people with his pointless activities. He advanced hacking zilch, he gave nothing to anyone, except a bad name.
    • > Jello Biafra - founding member of the funny name posse, where he is joined by
      > other people who get an inordinate number of speaking gigs relative to their
      > qualifications, like American McGee, Simpson Garfinkle, and Jennifer 8. Lee.
      > Hmm, I thought geeks were supposed to be smart enough to judge people on their > actual merits, not the marketing they do of their name cum public identity.
      > Blah, ridiculous stuff like this makes me lose faith in humanity.

      No, Biafra actually is most famou
    • Maybe Jello did some social engineering of his own to get a spot as keynote? Ergo, he is worthy. Punk bands like DK [deadkennedys.com] rule anyway, so who cares if he's there? I'm sure he's got lots to say about the Nazi Shit going on in the USA these days. I'd like to hear it.
    • Biafria spoke at h2k2 about large corporation marketing. It was good, he had albums of corporate anthems for various popular companies. People programming!

      Good stuff, it was entertaining. Charismatic speaker, and it was later in the night. He spoke for about 2 hours.

      Don't knock it until you see it.

      See you all there!

  • Woohoo! They're looking at the AS/400!!! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by j3ll0 ( 777603 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @02:22AM (#9515827)

    Seriously people, the AS/400 architecture, and the overlying OS/400 operating system is one of the nicest pieces of engineering you'll find.

    They've been doing 'the file system is a database' since before Bill and Co were in long pants.

    If you get a chance to catch that lecture, and have your x86-oriented mind blown away.

    That lecture will probably not be performed by Jello, even though he blows minds for a living [amazon.com]

  • Translation for all the real hackers (Score:5, Funny)

    by Eric(b0mb)Dennis ( 629047 ) * on Thursday June 24, 2004 @02:25AM (#9515832)
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  • 11am on Sunday, Area B (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Jason Scott ( 18815 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @02:27AM (#9515839) Homepage
    See everyone there! I'll be speaking on "Saving Digital History: A Quick and Dirty Guide". Mention Slashdot to me for absolutely no special gift whatsoever. Catch you at the bar.

    • Re:11am on Sunday, Area B (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Jason, you rock!

      Textfiles.com is one of the best things on the internet! Cant wait for the BBS documentary. :-)

      -A fan
  • I've said it more than once that it's a good idea if the proceedings of such meetings can be made available in video, audio and transcript form. A lot of free 'geek documentation' gets lost when conferences like this only choose to cater for those who actually attend.

  • I was planning to go... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by byolinux ( 535260 ) * on Thursday June 24, 2004 @02:38AM (#9515875) Journal
    ...but the US Government scaring me, and the cost involved prevents me from doing it.

    I hope to see people from HOPE/2600 out in Germany at Christmas though.

  • McDonalds connection? (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward

    I wonder what sort of thought process went into the art at the top of the page [the-fifth-hope.org].

  • Hacker conference != security conference (Score:5, Informative)

    by gbnewby ( 74175 ) * on Thursday June 24, 2004 @02:59AM (#9515937) Homepage
    When I look at the speaker schedule, the difference between a HOPE conference and other security-themed conferences is obvious. The scope of sessions and the range of speakers reinforces the notion that hacking is still open to everyone with a will to get involved, and not just about the technology. Am I biased? I guess so, since I'm one of the conference organizers.

    PS, to the person looking for past session archives: it's all online for free download, or you can buy the CD. Just visit http://www.h2k2.net or http://www.2600.com and go to the store.

  • It's a Holiday in New York City! (Score:5, Funny)

    by Baldrson ( 78598 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @03:06AM (#9515956) Homepage Journal
    And it's a holiday in New York City
    Where you'll do what you're told
    A holiday in New York City
    Where the slums got so much soul

    Bloomberg! Bloomberg! Bloomberg! Bloomberg! [the-numbers.com]

  • Comment removed (Score:4, Funny)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @03:25AM (#9515993)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • addition of Bruce Schneier (Score:5, Informative)

    by mlc ( 16290 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @03:42AM (#9516043) Homepage
    We just announced [2600.com] the addition of renowned computer security expert Bruce Schneier [schneier.com] to our speaker schedule!
  • And our doors are open to anyone interested in what the hacker world has to say

    .. yeah, and if they are not, we have the people who will open them for us, one way or the other!
  • Having Jello Biafra at these kinds of conventions is a really good idea, and one that seems to go down extremely well. I hope they mp3 the speeches again, as i remember them doing with Biafra's last talk in 2002 i believe. Also this speech was brought out on his 'Become the media' spoken word album, which i recommend to anyone.
    • My fondest memory of Jello is him hauling several newspapers out of a trenchcoat to hand Tipper Gore her own words on a talk show about 15 years ago.

      She walked right into that one after mistakenly walking in grossly underestimating him...beautiful bit, just beautiful.

      • Here are his own word on the matter:

        The second time around I came prepared. They put me and Ice-T [who has sampled stuff from the No More Cocoons album] in one dressing room and we got to meet and that was cool. Now it's been documented that Tipper Gore has denied having anything to do with the Frankenchrist trial and told the Philadelphia Inquirer that she had nothing to do with it. Then I got a copy of the Metro Times out of Nashville where she says she'd like to take credit for it. So I brought it with

  • Oh no, someone call ESR quick!! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by autopr0n ( 534291 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @04:41AM (#9516219) Homepage Journal
    Looks like people are "misusing" the word hacker again! Someone better let ESR know so he can stop all this nonsense!

    Note: that was sarcasm.
    • In the 1950s a hacker was someone who tinkered with electronics and radios. In the 1970s people started getting a hold of computers and tinkering with them. (Ever hear the phrase "computer hacker"? If all hacking happened on computers, "computer hacker" would be redundant.)

      The old farts like RMS and ESR make a big deal out of it because they actually remember the 70s. They remember a time when hacking meant play with/tinker. They remember Hollywood getting a hold of the term and raping it.

      ESR is our

  • What's Jello doing there? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by OakLEE ( 91103 ) on Thursday June 24, 2004 @04:42AM (#9516223)
    No offense to Jello--I'm a great Jello fan (see sig)--but what exactly is the point of having him speak at a hacking convention? He'd be great on a number of issues, but I fail to see what he adds here.

    ______________________________________
    • Because it's not the Ub3r l337 h4x0r convention, it's the hacker convention in the questing for knowlegde sense. Hacking isn't breaking into b0x3n, it's learning everything possible that interests you.
    • Jello had given a talk at Defcon a couple years back. What with such impositions as the DMCA and the fears we knew from the imposing UCITA and such, I think that it's good for people to learn a lot more awareness and advocacy of the socio-political aspects that are ever so becoming a part of our hobbies/jobs. I've had positions that required a bit of reverse engineering of competitive product, within the confines of the law of course. These limits are becoming ever diminishing. How long will it be before pe
    • Be funny if Jello showed up in a "Too Drunk To Hack" t-shirt.

  • Doesn't seem to be hacking (Score:3, Interesting)

    by FireFury03 ( 653718 ) <slashdot@nexTIGERusuk.org minus cat> on Thursday June 24, 2004 @05:01AM (#9516273) Homepage
    Hmm... looks more like cracking to me...

  • Indymedia? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by SilveRo_kun ( 741555 )
    Has Indymedia in the past been at Hacker Events?

  • At first... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 24, 2004 @07:08AM (#9516728)
    I thought "With Woz and Mitnick, why do they need Biafra as keynote speaker?"

    Then I realized "There's always room for jello."

  • why Mitnick (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    seriosuly. he is nothing more than a two bit punk (no punintended)
    he may have some credits to his name, but credit card fraud and hitting an agent upside the head with a garbage can is not exactly mad skills.

    he has no class, and his abilities arent anything to get excited about.

    they need to focus on the "other kevin"

    look him up. hes a character.
  • A conference for hackers? Cool. A lameass, poorly done intro to a website? Uncool.

    That same lameass intro on an intro to a hackers site; bizarre and saddening.
    • I can understand if your unimpressed with the 25 images one by one chained together, but the actual 5th hope website is short and to the point. The Wiki is useful. Everything doesn't need flash animations. Sometimes a text only useful site is more useful than a flashy clipart cluttered slow flushing turd.
  • I saw the headline and just remembered that my Dad always told me that Biafra was the world's sob spot for a brief time in the 60's (kind of like Somalia in '92...you know, been starvation there for decades, still is, just for a brief while people actually notice) and I guess it's somewhere that's not called Biafra anymore. Don't really know much about it. Just thought it was funny to read the headline and think that was what it was about.
    • I guess it's somewhere that's not called Biafra anymore

      Biafra was a short-lived breakaway state in Nigeria, named after the Bight of Biafra. Biafra didn't get the international support it had hoped for, and after three years of war with Nigeria, Biafra capitulated. About a million people died from the fighting and the consequent famine.

  • Goldstein, Mitnick and Woz? All that's missing is Cap'n Crunch. Good grief. Isn't there anyone doing something NOW instead of these fossils talking about what they did back in the 70s and 80s? Wait, I know go get that guy who wrote the first Internet worm! That'll put asses in the seats.

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