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Muppets Named Top Scientists 213

praedictus writes "Apparently Bunsen and Beaker of Muppet fame have been nominated favorite TV scientist in a poll conducted by the British Association for the Advancement of Science (BA). and the BBC, soundly beating other contenders such as Mr. Spock, and Agent Scully."
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Muppets Named Top Scientists

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  • What about (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:10PM (#10169992)
    Bill Nye the Science Guy or Mr. Wizard?

    Oh, and it was an unscientific internet poll.
    • Re:What about (Score:5, Informative)

      by dealsites ( 746817 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:26PM (#10170109) Homepage
      Mr. Wizard rocked. Definately one of the better shows on Nickelodeon in the day. I'm not sure if it's still or in syndication these days as I don't have cable, but it was a great show to learn growing up. Check out these facts from the pre Nickelodeon days [museum.tv]
      --
      Cool kids click here [dealsites.net]
    • Re:What about (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Judg3 ( 88435 ) <jeremy@@@pavleck...com> on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:38PM (#10170196) Homepage Journal
      I loved Mr. Wizard. Discovery Science had a "Mr. Wizard" marathon a month or two ago of all his shows from the 50s.

      Funny story - back in my 9th grade Science class the teacher was giving a demonstration. It was the typical "Place lighted match in glass, place hard boiled egg on top, match goes out and egg gets sucked in" one to show air expansion/contraction. Anyway, before he did the demo he asked us all what would happen - I was the only one to get it right.
      He said "How did you know?" and I told him I saw Mr. Wizard do it.

      Well well that wasn't something he wanted to hear! He went on a 15 minute rant about how Mr. Wizard went all over the country talking to science teachers and stealing their best experiments then putting them on TV and making big money off of THEIR ideas... It was pretty damn funny at the time, and still is.
    • Re:What about (Score:5, Insightful)

      by ScottGant ( 642590 ) <scott_gant@sbcgl ... minus herbivore> on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:39PM (#10170204) Homepage
      Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth from Futurama? He get's my vote!
      • by Amorpheus_MMS ( 653095 ) <amorpheus @ g m a i l . com> on Monday September 06, 2004 @04:24PM (#10171329)
        "Buddha! Zeus! God! one of you guys do something! . . . Help! Satan! You owe me!!!"

        "I still don't understand why you wouldn't let me craft a laser cannon onto your chest, to crush those who disobey you..."

        "Sure, everyone's always in favor of saving Hitler's brain, but put it in the body of a great white shark... oooooh, suddenly you've gone too far!"
        • by RsG ( 809189 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @05:57PM (#10172080)
          Speaker: "And the winner is ... Number 3, in a quantum finish."
          Farnsworth: "No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!"

          Farnsworth: "I'm even dating a young Brazilian retired actress!"
          Crew: *whoohoo sounds*
          Farnsworth: "Some say I'm robbing the cradle, but I say she's robbing the grave!"

          Farnsworth: "Fry, that monkey is my most important experiment. If you two don't stop fighting I'll have you both neutered."
          Fry: "Hehe, that'll show him."
          Farnsworth: "Oh, I always feared he might run off like this. Why, why, why didn't I break his legs??"
          Leela: "So he just ran away in the middle of the exam?"
          Farnsworth: "I'm afraid so. All he handed in was a paper smeared with feces. He tied with Fry."

          (stolen from gotfuturama.com)
    • by the HIM ( 773710 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:52PM (#10170277)
      Beakman!! Nothing says quality scientist like a giant rat and a drug addict female cohost! It brought me through the hard early years of science, to be sure. "Ok, kids...for today's experiment, you'll need a spoon, a lighter...."
    • Bill Nye is a weak white-bread second-hand clone of Beakman [geocities.com], and does not deserve to be on any list of anything.

      Note that in the link above, you'll find that by amazing coinceidence a Beakman [amazon.com] DVD is due out tomorrow! For those of you not privledged enough to see science done with a guy in a giant rat suit for a sidekick, you owe it to yourself to spend the $10 and get a copy.

      I'll still place Dr. Bunsen Honeydew in the lead though - but followed by Beakman.
    • Re:What about (Score:2, Insightful)

      by johneee ( 626549 )
      I'm more upset about the omission of Magnus Pyke. I think he was the person who taught me more about science than anyone else at an early age with 'Don't Ask Me'. (I know, I know... Dating myself here.)

      Plus, he was on that Thomas Dolby song, that's got to count for something, right?

    • What about Wile Coyote [warnerbros.com]? He's always concocting something new (chemistry) or designing/building some new device (engineering). This is good science. He never gives up.
  • Quatermass (Score:5, Informative)

    by alanw ( 1822 ) * <alan@wylie.me.uk> on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:10PM (#10169993) Homepage
    Get the original story, with the voting figures, from the BA Web site [the-ba.net]

    Why wasn't Quatermass [bbc.co.uk] on the short list? It's astounding to think that early TV SF horror shows were broadcast live.

  • It follows (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SYFer ( 617415 ) <syfer AT syfer DOT net> on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:10PM (#10169997) Homepage
    Not a surprise really. Oxford University [ox.ac.uk] recently announced that Beaker will be delivering the inaugural lecture for this year's Department of Biochemistry Distinguished Lecture Series. [ox.ac.uk] Rumor has it he will address "Neuro-imaging and Neuropathological Studies of Mood Disorders in Primates." Although not widely known, Beaker's contributions to science have far outweighed his achievements in the field of entertainment.
  • Comment removed (Score:5, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:11PM (#10169998)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • A Slashdot poll? Surely CowboyNeal would have won it.
    • by DarkHelmet ( 120004 ) <.mark. .at. .seventhcycle.net.> on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:20PM (#10170064) Homepage
      I'm guessing Spock would win due to the nerd contingent.

      In a forum of virgin nerds, you have to give the nod to Scully.

    • by aiabx ( 36440 )
      I'd still vote for Beaker and Bunsen. It's refreshing to see a realistic portrayel of the respect scientists have for their assistants. Besides, they aren't cops or adventurers or political advisors or crap like that. They'e scientists! They sit around in a lab and mess around with stuff. If we got to see Bunsen grubbing for grants, it would be perfect.
      -aiabx
      • My SO (a grad student) and I were watching a show about Stonehenge. They had two professors, each surrounded by a flock of grad students, trying out their pet theories on how the huge stones were dragged across the land from the quarry to the eventual site.

        The first one was highlighted, and went on and on about how he was going to use ropes, wind them around the stone and unwind it. They went into pretty good detail, interviewing the professor and students.

        The view switched to the other team, all starin

    • Re:Two Things (Score:5, Insightful)

      by cgenman ( 325138 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @02:29PM (#10170503) Homepage
      You'll notice Beaker and Honeydew were the only traditional scientists on the list. Mr. Spock, the doctor, and Dana are more explorers than scientists, Q is an engineer, Frank 'n Furter, Mr Evil, and Dr Frankenstein are, well, mad. Dr Strangelove is a consultant. Even Emmett Brown is portreyed as more mad than scientist.

      Why not include more traditional scientists on the list, such as Bill Nye, Mr. Wizard, or popular untraditional ones like Peter Venkmin or the Answer Guys?

      • Ahhh... Peter Venkman. Yes.

        Now you got me wishing for the ultimate 80's sci-fi team up: Venkman, doc Brown and Buckarro Banzai fighting pan-dimensional time-travelling ghosts!
        : )
        • Correction: I want Dr. Egon Spengler, not Venkman.
          I got the names confused. Venkman was just the front man, with no real scientific passion. Egon is the man. He designed all the gear, he develloped all the theories, he made the speech about the twinky.

          Venkman is Egon's Marty McFly, he's lovable, but replacable ;-)
      • "Even Emmett Brown is portreyed as more mad than scientist."

        It's been a while since I saw the trilogy, but what 'madness' did he perform that outweighed his scientific tendenancies?

        *Genuinely curious*
        • With thanks to IMDB (Score:3, Informative)

          by cgenman ( 325138 )
          Dr. Emmett Brown : The way I see it, if you're gonna build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some style?

          Dr. Emmett Brown : What on Earth's this thing I'm wearing?
          Marty McFly : Ah, this, this is a radiation suit.
          Dr. Emmett Brown : Radiation suit? Of course, because of all the fallout from the atomic wars.

          Dr. Emmett Brown : If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits eighty-eight miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious shit.

          Marty McFly : Wait a minute, Doc, are you trying to tel
  • Missing options... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by archnerd ( 450052 ) <nonce+slashdot.org@noSpaM.dfranke.us> on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:15PM (#10170030) Homepage
    ...they're not just for /. polls anymore!

    What about Samantha Carter from Stargate?
    • by BRSloth ( 578824 )
      Also...

      What about Beakman, from "Beakman's World"?

      Man, I loved that show.
      • Also...

        What about MacGyver? He didn't stay all day on a lab or something like that, but he surely knew a lot about physics and chemistry.

        And what about the Professor, from PowerPuff Girls? Oh, I mean, I never saw it... I mean... Damn!
        • I would vote for the Professor from Gilligans Island. I always found it amazing the number of things he could make from Coconuts. :)
          • Yeah - he can make a nuclear reactor from a couple of coconuts and a palm leaf... but he can't work out how to make the one thing that would be useful - a freakin' BOAT! :-)

            Russ %-)
        • What about MacGyver? He didn't stay all day on a lab or something like that, but he surely knew a lot about physics and chemistry.

          He knew a lot more about physics and chemistry than nature itself. It was a pity for us household cleaning agent nerds and Swiss army knife geeks that some component of his inventions was kept secret every time. Of course it was never hard to guess that this secret component had to be something like household-nitroglycerine, magical toad saliva with a high C4 percentage or natu
    • What about Samantha Carter from Stargate?

      Its fave scientist, not hottest scientist.
      Beaker n a bikini though...that's notion.
  • by DrunkenTerror ( 561616 ) * on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:16PM (#10170035) Homepage Journal
    The Swedish Chef had these words of congratulation:

    "He-a's a greet mun, a guud freeend. Thees echeeefement feenelly recugneezes zee cuntreebooshuns he-a hes mede-a tu zee sceeence-a und zee betterment ooff hoomuneety. I shell beke-a a ceke-a in hees hunur! Bork Bork Bork!"
  • Scully? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by heffrey ( 229704 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:18PM (#10170047)
    This may offend some but Scully is certainly not a scientist. Now, as for Bunsen and Beaker they may have been somewhat inept but scientists they were!!
    • Re:Scully? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Chess_the_cat ( 653159 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:24PM (#10170099) Homepage
      Scully had degrees in physics and medicine. How is she not a scientist? In fact, that's why she was paired with Mulder. She was the objective yin to Mulder's crazed yang. She didn't accept anything she couldn't directly observe or quantify.
      • Re:Scully? (Score:3, Interesting)

        by geekoid ( 135745 )
        becasue she didn't practice science.
        I mean, come on.

        "She didn't accept anything she couldn't directly observe or quantify."

        most of the time she didn't accept things she did observe, and refused to attempt to quantify almost everything.
        • We at the Vet Pathobiology Lab were always amazed at the speed with which she was able to perform electrophoresis. Anyone who can do a complete isolation and analysis in 45 minutes is a phenomenal scientist, in my book at least.

        • Re:Scully? (Score:2, Informative)

          becasue she didn't practice science.

          I mean, come on.

          "She didn't accept anything she couldn't directly observe or quantify."

          most of the time she didn't accept things she did observe, and refused to attempt to quantify almost everything.


          Yeah, but. But. She's hot.

          • becasue she didn't practice science.
            I mean, come on.

            "She didn't accept anything she couldn't directly observe or quantify."

            most of the time she didn't accept things she did observe, and refused to attempt to quantify almost everything.

            Yeah, but. But. She's hot.

            Only on Slashdot will this be modded with +1 Informative. I mean, it is informative, but still.

            And she is, though.

      • Re:Scully? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Mateito ( 746185 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:39PM (#10170202) Homepage
        Scully had degrees in physics and medicine. How is she not a scientist?

        Medicine, as a degree, is not science. A standard medical degree is procedural. This is one reason medicine is moving toward a post-graduate degree, some of which require a "medical science" degree before hand.

        Physics, however, is the only real science.

        Disclaimer: Yes, I am a physicist.

      • Re:Scully? (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Scully had degrees in physics and medicine. How is she not a scientist?

        So what? A degree in physics doesn't mean your a scientist. A friend of mine has a law degree. He doesn't practice law - he started a consulting company. Is he a lawyer? I don't think so. Another friend has a physics degree, then went into medicine and now works as a MD. Are they a scientist?

        You are confusing a person's education with occupation.

        Scully was a FBI agent. That was her primary identity/purpose.
    • ...they may have been somewhat inept...

      Inept? Inept? Dear sir you shall have to take those words back! Purely on their achievement of turning Gold into Cottage Cheese shall they be known for their scientific prowess!

      • Don't forget about their growth serum that Animal got ahold of in The Muppet Movie. Saved Kermit from certain doom at the end of The Frogkiller's spears.
    • That's *Doctor* Bunsen *Honeydew* to you, buster!
      -russ
  • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:19PM (#10170056)
    It has to be Professor Farnsworth
  • Come on! Where's Frink from the Simpsons? Nerdy scientist with Jerry Lewis gyrations... he gets my vote. Maybe the French would have rated him higher too.
  • by sigma ( 53086 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:21PM (#10170069)
    Batman! [snpp.com]

    Marge : There's a man here who says he can help you.
    Homer : Is it Batman?
    Marge : He's a scientist.
    Homer : Batman's a scientist.
    Marge : It's not Batman!

    • Homer : Is it Batman?
      Marge : He's a scientist.
      Homer : Batman's a scientist.


      Actually, Marge says "No, its a scientist".
      Then Homer points out that just because its a scientist doesn't mean its not Batman...
  • by admiralfrijole ( 712311 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:22PM (#10170077) Homepage
    omitted from the original article was beaker's comments upon hearing he was sharing the top prize:

    Mee mee meeeee me meeeeee mee meee meeeee. Meeee me meeee mee meeeee me.

  • by WerewulfX ( 737067 ) * on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:23PM (#10170083)
    I mean for gosh sakes, I never saw Scully make a battery out of a coconut!!
  • From Star Trek Voyager. He's awesome :)
    • From Star Trek Voyager. He's awesome :)

      I liked him better when he wore the big green H on his forehead. ;-)
      • "I liked him better when he wore the big green H on his forehead. ;-) "

        Not sure if you are referring to this or not, but I do remember Grant/Naylor commenting that the holo-doc appeared not long after Red Dwarf made it over here to the states.

        Personally, I kind of have mixed feelings as to whether anything was copied or just naturally evolved. I mean, what happened on RD was arguably quite original. However, Voyager had years of Trek to build from, including characters (moriarty?) that were holographi
        • I kind of have mixed feelings as to whether anything was copied or just naturally evolved. I mean, what happened on RD was arguably quite original. However, Voyager had years of Trek to build from, including characters (moriarty?) that were holographic in nature.

          Lets see, one is a hologram, immaterial and confined to the ship, treated rudely by the rest of the crew, who after a few years gets a hard-light projector (technology from the future that was inconceivable when the ship was built) that hovers ins
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:25PM (#10170102)

    I can't believe slashdot would run a story with that title. "Bunsen, Beaker Named Top Scientists" would have been much more dignified. You would never see "Whites Named Top Scientists" or "Hispanic, Woman Named Top Scientists" would you? Please, Bunsen & Beaker are scientists first, muppets second.

    • Bunsen & Beaker are scientists first, muppets second.

      Reminds me of a scene from Veterinarian's Surgery, featuring Ralph as Doctor Bob and Miss Piggy as, err, Nurse Piggy.

      Doctor Bob: Nurse Piggy, you cannot let your feelings interfere with your duty. You are a nurse.
      Nurse Piggy: I may be a nurse, but I'm a woman first!
      Doctor Bob: Wrong. You're a pig first. Nurse second. I don't think woman made the top ten...

      Cheers,
      Ian

  • by the_twisted_pair ( 741815 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:33PM (#10170160)
    ...could be good fun too: Top scientist named a Muppet poll anyone?

    Hmm, think I'll vote for Pons and Fleischmann.....

    • I know it's not strictly kosher to open a serious discussion in a story about a muppet being named most popular scientist, but...

      IEEE's Spectrum this month has a really interesting article on cold fusion, which talks about why the results are so hard to replicate, and the number of researchers who have managed to do so nonetheless. There is some debate about whether the effect being observed is actually fusion or not (although there are numerous indicaters that it might be), but the whole thing is rather

  • outraged (Score:3, Funny)

    by contagious_d ( 807463 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:34PM (#10170165) Journal
    What is going on in the UK? I thought they were our allies. I mean, before I saw this article, I was a huge fan of Honeydew and Beaker. But after seeing this [the-ba.net] picture, it is obvious that Dr. Honeydew is a terrorist, and, furthermore, is violating Beaker's civil rights with the electrical cord from a washing machine. This kind of thing cannot be tolerated. What would Mr. Wizard say? And why is Kermit supporting [the-ba.net] this? If things keep going this way, I know that it is clear to us all that we [georgewbush.com] will have to liberate the citizens of the United Kingdom from the terrorists [drexel.edu] and cults [bbc.co.uk] that are being imposed on them by their evil dictators [royal.gov.uk].
  • by Jack Action ( 761544 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:37PM (#10170191)
    Beaker "sings" Feelings. [ladyofthecake.com]

    Truly one of the funniest things you will ever see.

  • Doctor who came in third. (sigh)
    • Doctor who came in third. (sigh)

      Buck up, I'm sure he'd win if it were a contest of time travelling scientists...

      Bah, who am I kidding, doc Brown, hands down ;-)
    • Euhm... for me he's more an traveller/explorer than a scientist. And I'm somebody who married a girl with two bookshelves full of videos of his adventures :-)
  • by Beebos ( 564067 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:39PM (#10170198)
    For me it is a tie between Professor Frink and Professor Farnsworth. Both Matt Groening creations.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:39PM (#10170203)
    Fictional characters can be a better role model for young people than real scientists and engineers. Perhaps a few children will think of becoming scientists because of these characters.

    "Scotty" on Star Trek has just got his star on the sidewalk (covered by slashdot). Many student engineers at one US school said they were inspired to take engineering by Scotty. (I can't find the link.)
  • by wideBlueSkies ( 618979 ) * on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:57PM (#10170300) Journal
    How about: Wile E. Coyote Super Genius [pioneernet.net] ?

    wbs.
  • by spaceyhackerlady ( 462530 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @01:57PM (#10170305)

    It's been a long time since I've seen the Muppet Show, but I too was very much a fan of Muppet Labs, where the Future is Being Made Today, with Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and his faithful assistant Beaker. Doctor Honeydew looked remarkably like a science teacher I had in high school. Liked to sprinkle nitrogen triiodide around the school at Hallowe'en. Bang!

    Curiously, when I think of fictional (television or otherwise) women scientists, the two that come to mind (Professor Sam Ryan and Dr. Kay Scarpetta) are both forensic pathologists. Hmmm...

    ...laura

  • by earthforce_1 ( 454968 ) <earthforce_1@yaho[ ]om ['o.c' in gap]> on Monday September 06, 2004 @02:00PM (#10170316) Journal
    They seem pretty popular - I am watching a back to back CSI labour day marathon on Spike.

    I heard enrollment in forensics college courses is way up on account of that program.
  • by thrill12 ( 711899 ) * on Monday September 06, 2004 @02:04PM (#10170341) Journal
    ...a few years ago, I was visiting a local videostore, suddenly feeling the need to see Peter Sellers again in his wonderful appearance of the mad german scientist.
    I asked the clerk if he could provide me with the movie "Dr.Strangelove".
    Immediately, the man points to the back of the store : the x-rated section...

    I guess most people seeing the vote were disgusted when they saw this name in the contest :)
  • Mr. Lizard! (Score:5, Funny)

    by zogger ( 617870 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @02:22PM (#10170455) Homepage Journal
    That muppet like show "Dinosaurs" was hilarious, they had a Mr. Wizard clone called "Mr. Lizard" IIRC. He was always wasting his kid assistants with bad science going even worse--> BOOM! "Oh well, guess we need ~another~ Billy!"
  • by LuxFX ( 220822 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @02:56PM (#10170677) Homepage Journal
    Bunsen and Beaker ... have been nominated favorite TV scientist ... soundly beating other contenders such as Mr. Spock, and Agent Scully.

    Sounds like they won, instead of just being nominated.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      How on earth did this get modded insightful? Mods who use the Oscars as their only authoritative source for the meaning of words?

      Nominate:

      To name, or designate by name, for an office or place; to appoint

  • by Whammy666 ( 589169 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @03:27PM (#10170896) Homepage
    Beakman and his truly luscious assistant Leeza rocked. Lester the rat was cool too. On second thought, I'll just take Leeza.
  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) * on Monday September 06, 2004 @03:33PM (#10170946)
    This is kind of a repeat of a reply post I just did, but it is important enough to bring to the top level - A Beakman's World DVD [amazon.com] is due out tommorrow (September 7th)! Only $10.

    Show support for a show that never should have been taken off the air, and throw a copy of any Bill Nye stuff you happen to see on teh ground in a gesture of disgust.
  • we could somehow get these guys into farscape.....
  • by hedley ( 8715 ) <hedley@pacbell.net> on Monday September 06, 2004 @04:26PM (#10171336) Homepage Journal
    As we used to say in Old Europe.
  • Professor Magnus Pyke?
    Sir Patrick Moore?
    Professor Lord Robert Winston?
    Professor Sir David Bellamy?
    Sir David Attenborough?

    None of them anywhere in the top ten. Sigh...
  • by gijoel ( 628142 ) on Monday September 06, 2004 @06:22PM (#10172278)
    Apparently things got really tough after the show was axed. Desperate to pay off the civil suit brought against him by Beaker, he went to Iraq and worked on Saddam's REALLY Big Rubber Hammer project. He was later killed in Belgium in what was believed to be a Mossad hit.

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