History of Star Wars Video Games 241
Leafel writes "UGO has posted a feature on the history of Star Wars video games, dividing the timeline into 4 categories: The Golden Age (up to 1990), The Silver Age (1991-1996), The Gaming Renaissance (1996-2000),
Modern Age (2001 on). From the article 'December 2004 saw the latest release in a long line of Star Wars related video games. As a sequel to one of 2003's top role playing games, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords has made a lot of Xbox owners and RPG fans very happy. In honor of KOTOR II's release and in anticipation of May's Revenge of the Sith movie event, we take a look at the long history of interactive Star Wars entertainment, complete with all of its highs and lows.'"
KOTOR 2 is a huge disappointment (Score:2, Insightful)
My quickie review from maybe six hours into the game: The characters and voice acting are decent, but so far I just feel like I've been able to look at each new NPC and say "Oh, you're the replacement for Carth" or whatever. The Jedi mentor person at least seems like she might have deeper motivations, but we'll see.
Likewise, the game narrative hasn'
Re:KOTOR 2 is a huge disappointment (Score:2)
Re:KOTOR 2 is a huge disappointment (Score:2)
Oooooh, sinister.
Meanwhile, I've got to give George Lucas props: In Phantom Menace he chose to portray Senator Palpatine as a really nice guy with apparently the best of motives. No sneering, no cackling monologues, no winks at the audience. It's only through foreknowledge of events in A New Hope that he
Re:KOTOR 2 is a huge disappointment (spoilers) (Score:2)
40 hour games of which, the first 38 hours are great with intriguing plot, interesting characters, nifty quests. Every bit as brilliant as the first, and in many respects outshining the first. The last 2 hours are WTF!!!
BTW the Darkside ending wasn't even finished, the LS ending actually presented you with a choice, though it does not have an effect on the ending sequence.
The best way I can explain the end to people who haven't played. Imagine Empire Strikes back, the scene where Darth V
X-Wing & Tie Figher (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:X-Wing & Tie Figher (Score:4, Interesting)
TIE Fighter, which came along a few years later, was technically superior but it was X-Wing that created the mould. It's definitely up there in my list of the top PC games of all time.
Re:Or check this (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Or check this (Score:2)
(What? No! I never had visions of grandeur! It was Hitler! Hitler I tell you!)
Re:X-Wing & Tie Figher (Score:2)
Correction - and good news... (Score:2)
Re:X-Wing & Tie Figher (Score:2)
Included all the same annoyances ("Oh, I finished a mission in X-Wing! Quick, quit out and back up my pilot file before trying another mission!")
Ah, I remember that little "feature" of the game. For those of you who don't know the game: if you lost your ship during the next battle, the game would determine if the Rebels won or lost, and you would get picked up by the "winner". If the Empire picked you up, you went to a detention camp.
I also remember that you could pick wingmen to go with you. Ideall
At last... (Score:2)
X-Wing! (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2)
*breathe heavily*
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:X-Wing! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2)
It's not even animated! WTF? I swear it looked like it when I was 5. But instead, there are drawings, then flashes to a picture with two swords hitting each other, then it flashes back to the previous drawing.
I kinda feel ripped off, knowing that was being taken as a fool. But, then again, if anyone woul
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2)
Now I know how old people feel when they say "I remember back when....."
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2)
Yeah, the tape has 3 stories, so it may be the same tape.
I'm curious about there being actual animated ones now...
I too told myself "This is not what we ran home from school to see...", but I was 5.
I'm going to do some research now, thanks for the info.
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2)
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2)
Re:X-Wing! (Score:2)
1990's golden age? (Score:3, Insightful)
And cue the music.. (Score:2)
wrong beat (Score:2)
more like:
Dumb dumb dumb dom dee dumb dom dee dumb DUMB DUMB DUMB DAM dumb dumb dom dee dom...
Re:wrong beat (Score:2)
Re:And cue the music.. (Score:2)
It's a reference to a *classic* SNL sketch starring Bill Murray as a (bad and cheesy) lounge singer named "Nick Winters".
Transcript Here [jt.org]
Hear it here [blueharvest.net] under 'MP3' at the bottom.
Nick "Winters": Hey, wait a minute! This is the Nick "Winters" show, and I do the entertaining, thank you! Let's go out with something really hot for these folks, alright? A big hit on the '77. [ singing ] "Ah.. Star Wars! Nothing but Star Wars! Gimme those Star Wars.. don't let them end! Ah.. Star Wars
For some reason (Score:2)
Rouge Squadron? (Score:2, Funny)
Chef Rouge! Chef Rouge!
Re:For some reason (Score:2)
Didn't you ever patch your game? The ridiculous backspin sweeping stroke(*) was crippled (as in "damage reduced to reasonable levels") in higher versions, much to the chagrin of a couple of people I know who used to run backwards hoping to land such shot in the middle of crowded rooms while LAN-partying. Lots of moves/force powers were modified during the patch series...
(*) I
Milkin' It (Score:5, Funny)
> The Silver Age (1991-1996),
> The Gaming Renaissance (1996-2000),
> Modern Age (2001 on).
The Failure to Suck Age (1977-1990)
The Suck Age (1991-1996)
The Apart From TIE vs. X-Wing, It Pretty Much Sucked Chrome off a Trailer Hitch (1996-2000)
The Sucked Neutron Stars Through A Straw Age (2001-2002)
The KOTOR Age, in which somebody at Lucasarts goofed badly by giving a contract to someone who actually gave a shit about storytelling (KOTOR, 2003)
The Jar Jar Binks Age (Star Wars Galaxies: A Galaxy Milkin' It [homestead.com])
Move along, nothing to see here, indeed! The goggles, they do NOTHING!
Re:Milkin' It (Score:2)
Re:Milkin' It (Score:2)
X-Wing Alliance is the BEST SW Game Ever. I believe that it was released in 2000.
KOTOR wins 2nd best.
Re:Milkin' It (Score:3, Insightful)
They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:3, Funny)
The command line interface allowed you to move, to shoot photon torpedoes (an 'o' would track across the 10x10 grid as the torpedo moved), call for help, etc.
This was on a Prime 500. The game was, IIRC, written in Fortran and originally written an a PDP (8 or 11?).
Sigh! Those were the days! :)
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
he characters in the grid were a '.' for empty space, a '*' for a star, a 'p' for a planet, an 'E' for the Enterprise, a 'K' for a Klingon, and an 'S' for the dreaded 'Super Commander' (oooooo!)
You're thinking of Star Trek, I think
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
(you're thinking of star trek)
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
WARNING: INCOMING FLAMEFEST (Score:3, Funny)
[snip]
The characters in the grid were a '.' for empty space, a '*' for a star, a 'p' for a planet, an 'E' for the Enterprise, a 'K' for a Klingon, and an 'S' for the dreaded 'Super Commander'
Uh, oh. Woe betide to you, you've confused Star Wars and Star Trek on Slashdot. It was nice knowing you; I'll greet your kin at the funeral.
In all seriousness, I remember that game. It was ported to as many systems as Adventure and
Obigitory Simpons Quote (Score:2)
From the The Simpsons" Meet "Star Trek [about.com]
"Marge vs. the Monorail"
Quimby: And now, I'd like to turn things over to our Grand Marshall, Mr. Leonard Nimoy.
Nimoy: I'd say this vessel could do at least Warp Five. [Crowd laughs.]
Quimby: And let me say, "May the Force Be With You!"
Nimoy: Do you even know who I am?
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
I think the Slashdot group-mind will agree that Star Trek USED to be science fiction. Now it's simply a soap opera.
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
And how can you even compare Darth Vader to John DeLancy?
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
If you ever considered yourself a geek/nerd, I think you just lost the privilege
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
They meet an alien race masterminded by a megalomaniac in a dark helmet (henceforth referred to as "Dark Helmet") with a Weapon That Will Destroy Planets. Earth is in no imminent danger, but that won't stop Archer from acting grumpy for a whole season (this is actually his Secret Weapon against all manners of alien t
Re:They missed a whole 'era' ... (Score:2)
my first view of a Star Wars game was not... (Score:2, Interesting)
My first view of a Star Wars game was not exactly from the Star Wars realm, but rather it was "Star Raiders" for the Atari 2600. I think at that point in time there was huge copyright issues, but Star Raiders had a look and feel like the vector based star-wars game in the arcades (relatively speaking). It had a numeric keypad controller. Sometimes I felt like I was in the gunner room in the Millenium Falcon, shooting tie fighters.
Man, video games back then allowed a lot of room for imagination. Nowadays I
Re:my first view of a Star Wars game was not... (Score:2)
The Atari 2600 version of Star Raider (singular, not plural) was a crippled
They missed the Arcade ESB (Score:2)
I hacked a starwars yoke to my [url=http://ubercade.randomdrivel.com]MAME arcade cabinet[/url] just to play the original vector starwars arcade game.
rampy
Re:They missed the Arcade ESB (Score:2)
I hacked a starwars yoke to my MAME arcade cabinet [randomdrivel.com] just to play the original vector starwars arcade game.
rampy
PS not sure if my other post made it through -- using too many forums with BBcode I guess...
PSS I'm retarded, I just noticed ESB was mentioned, it's just they released it AFTER RTJ for some reason... never mind.
Re:They missed the Arcade ESB (Score:2)
No, it was mentioned, but after they mentioned the Return Of The Jedi raster graphics game, for some reason.
I'm not confident that the writer got his timeline correct. I remember seeing ads for Jedi Arena before the The Empire Strikes Back Atari 2600 game was released. I also think the first Star Wars vector game was in 1982 or earlier. 1983 seems kind of late; that was just before the video game crash and I remember the game being out for ove
Because ESB was after ROTJ (Score:2)
Because it came out after ROTJ.
Star Wars - 1983 [klov.com]
ROTJ - 1984 [klov.com]
ESB - 1985 [klov.com]
KLOV is an awesome site. I remember when it first came online and thought - this is where the web is great. I mean, there were text lists of stuff like this on rec.games.video.arcade.collecting, but something like this blows that away.
Re:Because ESB was after ROTJ (Score:2)
I've been through KLOV a few times, and I'm still not convinced 1985's the correct date for ESB. This would place it after the 1984 game crash, and I'm pretty certain I saw this game just before, either in Findlay, OH or Sandusky at Cedar Point. Hmmm...
Ahhh...another "History of" article! (Score:2)
Good to know that we won't go more than a few days without a "history" lesson here on Slashdot. I mean, it had been several days since I read the history of the iPod article. At least this history spans more than a couple of years...
Why don't we have a "Star Wars History Month" anyway? I'd get up and celebrate!
Why did X-Wing die? (Score:5, Insightful)
Now put in a different person in each ship (multiple people to man guns on capital ships), and use the web.
Who wouldn't want to play that?!?!
Re:Why did X-Wing die? (Score:2)
No piloted-gunners though, except on the Falcon.
Re:Why did X-Wing die? (Score:2)
In all other regards, it was a rather pretty game. Just that fundamental flaw killed it for me.
Re:Why did X-Wing die? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Why did X-Wing die? (Score:2)
Jump to lightspeed actually has alot of the feel of X-Wing vs Tie Fighter. There are some large battles, and its fun, though you have to do alot of unfun stuff to get enough credits for a nice ship to really fight.
Die, die, die! (Score:3, Insightful)
Even Speilberg sometimes blows it. "Jurassic Park III", anyone? That effectively went direct to video, although there was some brief, minimal theatrical release. He had the sense to stop at that point.
At some point in the sequel business, it's time to give it up.
Although we'll probably have to endure "Ocean's 13".
Re:Die, die, die! (Score:2, Insightful)
No, no! I'll not have that!
Jurassic Park 3 is a very under-rated movie; an excellent little short and sweet picture.
The director courageously did a great job with the pteridactyl sequences (which Spielberg didn't include in the first movie because he said they were too hard to film).
BTW, Spielberg wasn't involved in JP3. But he has ideas of JP4.
Sam
Re:Die, die, die! (Score:2)
Re:Die, die, die! (Score:2)
The kid rolling along the ground inside the safety cage outta the treehouse, i *SO* wanted to see that *AUGH*
Re:Die, die, die! (Score:2)
Kirby
Re:Die, die, die! (Score:2)
instead of "Beverly Hills Cop" (which all 3 are still half decent.)
Where's the 'x-wing' of today? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'd love an updated version of X-Wing with state-of-the-art graphics and game-play. What is the closest thing to X-Wing out there today?
Also, I love Call Of Duty. Is there a "Call Of Duty"-type game set in the Star Wars universe?
Sam
Re:Where's the 'x-wing' of today? (Score:3, Informative)
I assume Volition, Inc. simply got gobbled up.
Re:Where's the 'x-wing' of today? (Score:2)
Freespace II r0xx0rs.
It was obviously written by someone who practically worshipped X-Wing and Tie Fighter, because the game mechanics are identical. Completely. Oh, everything has different names, but when you get presented with a new weapon that fires fat blue bol
Re:Where's the 'x-wing' of today? (Score:2)
FS2 ended with the Terran-Vasudan alliance clearly on the defensive. I don't know about you, but to me that tells me that the story is unfinished. There was very little in the way of closure, and in fact, the first thing I thought after
Re:Where's the 'x-wing' of today? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Where's the 'x-wing' of today? (Score:4, Informative)
They tried. "Totally games" produced an updated Windows version of Tie Fighter and X-Wing... unfortunately, they "updated" the gameplay a bit too much, and as a result, it totally sucked.
The DOS version of Tie Fighter may have lacked a bit in the graphics department, but the gameplay was just about perfect.
Honestly, if you liked X-Wing, but haven't played TIE Fighter, I highly recommend you pick up the DOS "Collector's CD-ROM" edition of TIE Fighter. It's an excellent game, and you'll never notice that the graphics aren't that great. I've sucessfully run it under Windows 2000 (with a bit of help from Google). It may work under DosBox in Linux, but I haven't tried lately.
Re:x-wing of today (Score:2)
I don't understand how people can even attempt enjoy themselves in that environment, let alone survive against the hordes of laggy NPCs that can put a hole through you before your client-server connection resyncs
Stale Franchises? (Score:4, Interesting)
Similarly the first time I read LOTR, I wanted to be one of the Fellowship, and had there been a game around back then, it would have been great. Likewise with Star Trek.
But all of these have been flogged to death, there's no magic left, the initial urge has been fulfilled long ago, and that's why it feels like something is missing.
Re:Stale Franchises? (Score:3, Funny)
Similarly the first time I read LOTR, I wanted to be one of the Fellowship, and had there been a game around back then, it would have been great.
Allow me to introduce you to Dungeons & Dragons ...
Re:Stale Franchises? (Score:2)
Don't you mean MERP [merp.com]?
Gah.... (Score:2)
Re:Gah.... (Score:2)
Note EVERY genre.
Ewoc-Mon (or Poke-Ewok) -- Gotta catch'em all!
They missed one: Yoda stories (Score:2, Informative)
Re:They missed one: Yoda stories (Score:2)
Other Star Wars computer games... (Score:2)
Another Star Wars game was a text-based X-Wing "flight simulator". You got a description and a grid location, and you responded with how you wanted to set the controls.
Yoda's Stories? (Score:2)
I forgot the name of the game. Was it Yoda's stories or something? Couldn't find a mention of it in the story. It's amazing just how many games Star Wars has spawned over the decades.
Re:Yoda's Stories? (Score:2)
X-wing vs Tie Fighter best of all mentioned IMO (Score:4, Interesting)
I still play the original, even though it is a crash-tastic and bug-ridden experience on a modern OS, it is still fun when it works.
OR is this what the MMORPG star-trek world is moving towards? Might that be the end-all/be-all climax to the ST:Galaxies world?
Re:X-wing vs Tie Fighter best of all mentioned IMO (Score:2, Offtopic)
Please replace every StarTrek reference with Star Wars.
It's easy to see why Star * is easily confused. 99% of all computer releases for both franchises sucked goat.
(Damn, i need to check preview more often)
Like I said, I am an idiot
They forgot one... (Score:4, Interesting)
http://mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,5/gameId,2033/
It was a damn good 'Battle Chess' beater..52 unique capture animations and shipped on 14 High-Density floppy disks!! Wheeeee
- ExToolworker
I remember.... (Score:3, Interesting)
It was a 2-player head-to-head game. One side the Empire, the other side the Rebel Alliance. Each person had his own CRT and joystick controller. The Empier player had three TIE fighters and the death star that they could shoot from, switchable via buttons on the joystick controller. The Rebel Alliance player had four X-wing fighters.
Obviously, the plot was to either destroy the death star or destroy the rebel base (by blowing up the moon). The players would fly through space and fight each other's fighters and the rebel palyer even had to fly through the trench and try to hit the exhaust port.
It was a really great game for its time. Too bad it required so much special hardware. And the other problem was that it took a while to play especially at a booth at a convention.
Funny, I don't remember the company that made it nor the name of the game.
Dear UGO: It's called 'journalistic integrity.' (Score:4, Interesting)
Goddamn I hate articles like this. They're just fellating Lucasarts. Consider the following three paragraphs:
Amidst all of the new innovations and continuing franchises, LucasArts was also looking to inject the Star Wars mythos into every major gaming genre, leaving us with many ambitious yet underwhelming game titles, starting with 1997's Masters of Teras Kasi.
PC gamers saw Star Wars enter the real-time strategy genre with Rebellion and Force Commander, neither of which saw the success of their closest peers. Each of them seemed to break a little bit too far from the mold and never really seemed to catch on. Underwhelming? Masters of Teras Kasi sucked. Rebellion and Force Commander were steaming piles, some of the worst-reviewed games of the years in which they were released. This kind of pussy-footing continues through the entire article. They're kind to the ungodly awful Rebel Assault games. They barely touch upon the uniformly disappointing slate Episode I games, and focus only on the exception, Racer. They don't mention the massive failure of Rogue Squadron III. The huge disappointments of X-Wing Alliance, Obi-Wan, and Bounty Hunter are barely touched upon, the disastrous launch of Galaxies goes unmentioned, and the worst they can say about this year's Battlefront is that it's "slightly unbalanced." The incredibly poor level design of Jedi Knight II goes unmentioned.
Hey, UGO: Get off your knees, wipe off your face, and show a little dignity. The fact of the matter is, there've been tons of Star Wars licensed titles in the last two decades, and only a dozen or so of these have been any good. Instead of writing some fluff piece advertising the days of yore to generate hype for unreleased product, you had the opportunity to discuss how one of the greatest gaming licenses in history has been consistently squandered on mediocre games.
"Too far from the mold" (Score:2)
Did they miss a couple? (Score:2)
ROTJ arcade game (Score:2)
In defense of Obi-Wan (Score:2, Interesting)
Personally, I enjoyed the hell out of this game. You start out with a full battery of Jedi powers-- I don't want to pay $60 for a game, sit down, and go through the boring part of the characters' lives. My gamer friends tell me about "Jedi Academy" as if I'm supposed to be excited that I can train
Apple ][e Game (Score:3, Interesting)
It was pretty special.
Missed StarWars Chess (Score:2)
It was StarWars Chess.
Vector One? (Score:2)
Re:OId sit down game (Score:2)
Re:KOTOR II getting mixed reviews (Score:2, Insightful)
as well as the most of stuff locasarts produces these days do
Re:How could they forget STAR WARS: TRILOGY???? (Score:4, Interesting)