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Sin City Trailer 182

FrankMillerFan wrote in to tell us that there is a Trailer for Sin City available on Apple's preview site. The film is being co-directed by Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller himself. The video is kinda small but I gotta say that I'm pretty blown away- it really looks like they somehow took Miller's comic style and made it into a movie. High contrast, sometimes looks like line art, cool sparse use of color. This is a must-see trailer for any fan of the comic. Hopefully a higher-res version will be available soon.
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Sin City Trailer

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  • by Tlosk ( 761023 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:07AM (#11198650)
    This weekend I saw the trailer at the theatre and at first the style really threw me off, especially with all the big name stars in there, you just don't expect them to be in something so edgy and stylistic.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:07AM (#11198652)
    Does Jessica Alba take it all off? She is playing a stripper after all...
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Looking forward to opening day
  • high res (Score:5, Informative)

    by Kman_xth ( 529883 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:08AM (#11198661)
    Some of the trailers on the apple site adapt their size and quality to your quicktime plugin's bandwidth setting. Just set it to LAN and you'll get bigger and higher quality video.
    • No, that only applies to streaming video, not downloadable videos. All Apple's trailers are downloadable a/k/a "progressive download" and do not adapt to your QT settings for bandwidth. Note that some trailers offer different size/bandwidth versions, which would be automatically detected if they were streaming.
  • Ummm... (Score:2, Funny)

    by beatdown ( 788583 )
    If Ron Jeremey is not in it, I don't watch it.
  • But I thought it was SimCity. That would be cool
  • by vasqzr ( 619165 ) <vasqzr@nosPAM.netscape.net> on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:10AM (#11198675)

    When I first read this, I thought Maxis was making a white trash Sim game. Get your cousin pregnant, work at Wal-Mart, buy a 1985 Trans Am...
  • Hardboiled? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by lawpoop ( 604919 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:12AM (#11198682) Homepage Journal
    This is all fine and good, but when do we get to see the Hardboiled [amazon.com] trailer?
    • as soon as they make the movie, which shouldn;t be that long, as Robert Rodriguez seems pretty set on getting every Frank Miller comic made into a movie.. -james
  • Slightly larger... (Score:4, Informative)

    by The-Bus ( 138060 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:14AM (#11198685)
    There is a trailer in Windows Media format here [themoviebox.net] that is slightly larger, however you need to install "AOL Music Player" which, honestly, is not worth it.

    The trick above, to change your preferences to "LAN" in your Quicktime player settings, does work.

    Or feel free to right-click and download the MOV file. [apple.com]
  • by testednegative ( 843833 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:15AM (#11198686)
    but is this film/director in anyway related to the making of the PC Game series "Max Payne" ? because i found a lot of resemblance...
    • It's based on a comic that (AFAIK) predates Max Payne by awhile.
    • by The-Bus ( 138060 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:28AM (#11198732)
      Likely the other way around.

      Robert Rodriguez has been kind to bring us the Mariachi trilogy (El Mariachi, Desperado, Once Upon a Time in Mexico) as well as Spy Kids and The Faculty (I almost did not name those).

      Frank Miller should be on anyone's top ten list for Important People in Comics. He has done an awesome job with Sin City, and an amazing job with Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, one of the top graphic novels of the past 20 years.

      If anything, Max Payne is influenced by both these two.
      • He also wrote the best Daredevil stories. He created Elektra (which will probably be another horrible movie) and IIRC Bullseye as well. Some of the Robocop movie scripts (which I could have left out) were written by him as well.
      • Frank Millar was alreayd one of the most important peopel in comicdom before Dark Knight. he came on and did Ronin whcih not only was one of the first introductions of Japanese style and flavor (ninjas!) to the West but was also one of the first limited series. He went on to write Daredevil and create Electra which reshaped the character and again was one of the first introductions of ninjas to the West, especially in comics. Where he really becomes important is with Teenage Mutant ninja Turtles which was o
        • Actually, I think the ninjas came into the picture first with Frank Miller's Wolverine limited series (the very first one, before Wolverine ever had a book of his own) and his work on Daredevil. There had also been a great many limited series before Ronin. Ronin was mostly notable for its extravagant design values (for the period) and the fact that one of the major comic book companies would actually publish something so far out-there and completely unconnected to mainstream superhero continuity -- and, if
      • Well, and more to the point, you know, it's the whole post-modern reversioning of the old "hard boiled" genre that to a large degree Dashiell Hammett invented (an assertion that I imagine could start a whole other argument)... at this point in the game, playing the who influenced who game is sorta a moot point... However, a shorter and less, um, intellectually masturbatory answer would be, Max Payne was originally released in July, 2001, and if I'm not mistaken the first installment of Sin City was in Dark
    • seeing how the sin city comic predates max payne by like 10 years, i'd say it's the other way around, you worthless slashdot faggot.

      Maybe you should stop getting all your cultural information from stupid video games, megatokyo.com and anime conventions and start actually living life outside of your mom's basement, aka "the Payn3 K33p".
  • wow great! (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    a movie about city planning! ... oh wait, not really.
  • Love the style (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gaijin99 ( 143693 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:22AM (#11198705) Journal
    The semi-black and white style really works well. It looks a lot like Miller's art, as does the makeup on Mickey Rourke. At first Elijah Wood as Kevin surprised me, but he's a damn good actor and he is pretty. Of course, unless they change the plot he won't have any lines. I wonder if Wood's presence means we'll have scores of Wood obsessed girls flocking to see Sin City?

    I do have to admit that when I first saw the "black and white for everything but a few splashes of color" stile it reminded me of that cherry 7-UP commercial...

    • I agree with you there - the styling is excellent although it could grind after a full film of it.

      Still, major kudos to the lighting techs to get some of those shots!
    • [...]the makeup on Mickey Rourke. That's no makeup, that's an improvement on his Botox'd face.
    • I wonder if Wood's presence means we'll have scores of Wood obsessed girls flocking to see Sin City?
      Shades of Fight Club. It cracked me up some of the people who went to see that film because brad pitt was in it and were somewhat shocked. P.S. The film does look amazing visually
    • ...the style is a Film Noir with a Selective Desaturation Twist... and a Comic Book High Contrast effect thrown in for good measure...

      Anyway, the "Semi-Black and White Style" is called Selective Desaturation in the film world and typically revolves around highlighting one color in a 'scene' (At least in photography). Stylistically, it works excellently in comic books and hopefully in this movie as well...
      • no one cares about the technical terminology, you worthless slashdot faggot.

        "ooh, look at me i'm knowledgable about technical movie terminology, i've got important insight into the discussion! please listen to me! i don't actualy know about the comic book 'Sin City', but i'll blow smoke of my mighty smokestack of faggotry trying to impress a bunch of worthless nerds on slashdot! Hopefully mom will un-ground me so I can leave the basement to see this movie."
    • Re:Wood as Kevin (Score:3, Interesting)

      by LaminatorX ( 410794 )
      Am I the only one who shuddered at the sight of those glassas?
    • by BigFire ( 13822 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @11:13AM (#11199727)
      One wonders how far they'll present Wood's character Kevin... If fangirls went to see a second coming of Frodo Baggins, they're really in for a surprise.
    • the 7up commercials which years came after the movie "Rumblefish" by Francis Ford Coppolla, that starred Mickey "marv from Sin City" Rourke and featured selective color (the fish), just like Sin City. Maybe you should stop getting all cultural information from stupid 80s era commercials and start actually appreciating good film?

      And stop going to anime cons and reading Megatokyo while you're at it, no one will remember that shit in 10 years anyway.
  • by Robotech_Master ( 14247 ) * on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:23AM (#11198708) Homepage Journal
    ...at least, not in the strictest sense of the word.

    From the Internet Movie Database's Sin City trivia page [imdb.com]:
    Rodriguez, who credits Miller's visual style in the comic as relevant as his own in the film, insisted that Miller receive a "co-director" credit with him. The Directors' Guild of America would not allow it. As a result, Rodriguez resigned from the DGA, saying "It was easier for me to quietly resign before shooting because otherwise I'd be forced to make compromises I was unwilling to make or set a precedent that might hurt the guild later on." Unfortunately, by resigning from the DGA, Rodriguez was also forced to relinquish his director's seat on the film John Carter of Mars (2006) (at the time "A Princess of Mars" after the book on which it was based) for Paramount. Rodriguez had already signed-on and been announced as director of that film when the DGA situation took place, planning to begin filming soon after wrapping this film.
    Some of the other trivia on the page shows what a character Rodriguez is as well...such as the way he handled Miller's reluctance to allow an adaptation. And, like Sky Captain, this is one of the world's first "fully digital" pictures--digital cameras, digital backlot.
    • Quentin Tarintino also directed a short segment of the film as a way of "repaying" RR for scoring Kill Bill. He also wanted to get a feel for the new HD Digital Cameras that RR has been using on his last few movies.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      this actually has become the norm with many of the better directors. And the same is startingto happen with the better writers leaving their "union" or group.

      it seems that the level of corruption in the film industry is making the best of their kind avoid their silly games and prove they can easily do it on their own.

      Rodriguez is a great example of their best. He is certianly better than most, and certianly the most honest. I remember him talking to a large group of students at the NY film school and tel
    • I love Miller's work in comics (bought Elektra, Ronin, DKR, etc on the shelves as a teen), but I'm rightfully worried about his film work.

      His last major projects [imdb.com] were Robocop 2 & 3. 'nuff said.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:24AM (#11198711)
    I won't watch it if it's not digitally signed.
  • Here direct link to trailer [apple.com] 14.5Mb
  • This reminds me of how they came up with a 'look' for the movie Dick Tracy. Unfortunately, everything else sucked.

    I used to have more faith in Frank Miller's tallent, but crap like Dark Knight Strikes Again and RoboCop II have seriously altered my opinion of his skills as a writer. And now he's Co-directing with Mr. Spy Kids.

    I'll wait for this one to hit HBO.
    • You're right. Yeah, stylistically the trailer was pretty cool, but style alone doesn't make a movie. I'd rather see a good script and good acting without the processed black-and-white look.

      However...did you actually see Spy Kids? I'm not asking that in a snarky way, I just want to know. I thought it was pretty well-written and well-directed, and it gave me a new respect for Robert Rodriguez: you could totally tell it was a Rodriguez movie, even though it was nothing like, say, El Mariachi.
  • is available here [movie-list.com] .
  • by mirko ( 198274 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:53AM (#11198823) Journal
    Funny how many movies made by Miller [imdb.com] or inspired from his works are about to come in 2005/6 :
    • Don't forget that Batman Begins is based on Batman: Year One, also written by Frank Miller.

      I think Elektra will be crap (given that Daredevil was crap). Have no idea about 300. Batman Begins has a good director (Nolan) and strong casting...I have high hopes for that one.

      Although Rodriguez work has been uninspiring to present, the fact that this is his 'dream project' may inspire him to greatness -- the trailer looks promising, and I couldn't pick better casting myself.

  • by Qbertino ( 265505 ) <moiraNO@SPAMmodparlor.com> on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @08:55AM (#11198834)
    ..-Hollywood Stars putting themselves below the result of their combined effort. With "Die Hard" for instance one gets the impression of a movie built all around Bruce Willis. With Pulp fiction on the other hand you get the impression that he was born to play in it. Could be very much the same with this one. And some other artists involved.
    • I think you're wrong about Die Hard. The success of Die Hard made Bruce Willis' career, not the other way around.

      Before Die Hard, Bruce Willis was known to the world as the quirky detecitve David Addison on the television show Moonlighting. That he had no 'tough guy' creds to his name is what made him such a compelling John McClain.

    • i agree totally...i love movies where actors come together and take on smaller parts (much like pulp fiction) for the benefit of the movie...i mean, look at this cast:

      Bruce Willis, Benicio Del Toro, Jessica Alba, Elijah Wood, Brittany Murphy, Rosario Dawson, Michael Clarke Duncan, Josh Hartnett, Michael Madsen, Mickey Rourke, Nick Stahl...that's excellent...
    • Is anyone else bothered that Devon Aoke is in like 30% of the trailer but gets no onscreen credit, while they flash Nick Stahl and Josh Hartnet's mugs just long enough to show their names?
    • Die Hard was the movie that made Willis a Hollywood star. It is easy to forget what a departure John McClane was from the cartoonish action-adventure heroes of the 'eighties.
  • by Dharkfiber ( 555328 ) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `ebac.semaj'> on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @09:01AM (#11198873) Homepage
    Pole dancing ... they have my $10.50 already.
  • Well, I'm sold.
  • This is gonna be lame...
  • Looks like a Max Payne rippoff to me. Those scriptwriters get all of their ideas from games!
  • by jerkychew ( 80913 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @10:17AM (#11199348) Homepage
    There's a much longer, better trailer for this movie out on the net. I saw it a few months ago via the Ars Technica [arstechnica.com] forums. Supposedly it was shown at a comic convention and subseequently leaked onto the net.

    The story of the trailer goes like this: Miller refused for years to allow anybody to make a movie based on his graphic novels. Robert Rodriguez took it upon himself to make a very short (less than 5 minute) film based on a situation from the comic, and sent it to Miller. The film was very well done, and had Josh Hartnett in the leading role. Rodriguez sent this to Miller and said something like, "This is the kind of movie I want to make. If you like it, give me a call. If not, here's a nice gift to show your friends." Miller liked it, and the rest is history.

    That five minute short is at the beginning of the leaked trailer. I'm sure anyone with some google skills could find it. Otherwise you could get a membership to the Ars Lounge [arstechnica.com] and ask somebody in there.
  • another trailer (Score:4, Informative)

    by Zatic ( 790028 ) on Tuesday December 28, 2004 @10:17AM (#11199351)
    and much longer: http://hal9000.ots.dk/~kurgan2/Public/sincity.mp4 [hal9000.ots.dk] [55MB]
    • This is the ComicCon preview that contains the entire pre-credit short The Customer is Always Right. However, many of the digital backgrounds are not yet complete (or as complete as the new trailer), so it'll look a bit weird (For example, the scene towards the end with Dwight and Gail).
  • I was blown away by the trailer. It really has all the details that made the comic serie so outstanding. But as always, im doubtful that they will have all the nastiness in the comics in the movie. For those wondering what SinCity is, here is a good page for its artwork http://hem.passagen.se/fm4/sincity.html (And stupid me, who thought Wood was burned after the Ring movies)
  • Watching this trailer, I'm imagining a movie version of Miller's timeless The Dark Knight Returns [moviepoopshoot.com] done in the exact same style.

    Holy shit...if Sin City is a blockbuster...it just might happen!

    Consider: the upcoming Batman Begins was inspired by the Batman: Year One graphic novel / series. I'll bet the inside story is that they wanted to adapt Dark Knight first, but decided the public might not "get it" (they're still living in Adam West-Bataman land), so they went with Sin City and Batman: Year One inst
    • Ah, "The Dark Knight" - better than Fight Club, Dirty Harry, and Robocop put together. And then turned up to "eleven".

      If you want to see a short preview of what this might look like, the "Batman Adventures" television show actually DID it.

      As I recall: there was an episode in which three Gotham City kids were discussing what "the bat" might actually be like. This was basically a setup to show different representative versions of Batman from various decades in three segments of the half-hour show, including
  • I would rather he do

    The Dark Knight Returns and the best work Frank Miller has ever done

    Ronin!

  • by Z4rd0Z ( 211373 )
    It's a hoax, people. Release date: April 1st. Sorry to disappoint.
    • Maybe you should stop getting all your cultural information from stupid video games, megatokyo.com and anime conventions and start actually living life outside of your mom's basement, aka "the Payn3 K33p", you worthless slashdot faggot.
  • I was there at the 2004 San Diego ComicCon when they showed the original trailer/preview and had the panel discussion about it. To be honest, the only reason I went to see it was because Jessica Alba was going to be there in person. I had never heard of Frank Miller or Sin City. But what I saw in the original trailer blew me away. I have been waiting and waiting since then (so for about 7 months) and am really excited that a trailer has been released for all the world to see. Even more exciting is that
  • I noticed that both Batman Begins and Sin City have quite a few big names in their cast (plenty with critical acclaim as well- Del Toro here, Michael Caine in BB) However one thing I felt by watching this trailer (many times) is that some times I get distracted by the actors. Perhaps seeing the movie on the big screen in its entirety (until they release the Extra Special Bonus Edition DVD at least) will ease that. Bruce Willis and Jessica Alba in particular seemed to have this "Whoa that just changed the
  • FWIW, there's a "Sin City" FAQ [imdb.com], as well as a behind-the-scenes [themoviebox.net] look at the film, and a trailer [playtendo.com] that was first shown at the San Diego Comic-Con [comic-con.org] this past summer.
  • The much longer comic-con footage was put online in high-quality/high-res MPEG4 format.. search for "sincity.mp4" on Google [google.com].

  • WOW! If the trailer isn't just the best scenes of the movie spliced together, that movie is going to rawk! That's the best comic-book-like presentation I think I've ever seen in a movie. Each scene looked like a frame from a comic book.

    And the special effects are incredible -- did you notice Bruce Willis had *HAIR*?

    What will CGI be able to do next?

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