Giant Iceberg to Collide with Glacier 423
OECD writes "NASA reports that a massive 100-mile-long iceberg is on a collision course (movie) with a floating glacier near the McMurdo Research Station in Antarctica. NASA scientists expect a collision to occur no later than January 15, 2005."
Oooh! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Penguins in peril (Score:5, Funny)
Iceburg? (Score:2)
Re:Iceburg? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Iceburg? (Score:2)
"Wow, Sweden is great, but it would be even better without all the gorgeous women. I'm off to live on an iceberg!"
Re:Iceburg? (Score:3, Interesting)
Welcome to Iceburg, Drygalski. Population 0.
Doh! I finally get a story on slashdot, and I have a typo. Well, I feel a little better that someone at NOAA did the same thing here [noaa.gov].
And who the heck modded you offtopic? They didn't R the FA, obviously.
Oh Crap... (Score:3, Funny)
God DAMN IT.
Wait.. (Score:5, Funny)
Iceburg? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Iceburg? (Score:2)
Re:Iceburg? (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Iceburg? (Score:5, Funny)
What's an iceburg?
From German:
Berg (as in iceberg): mountain
Burg (as in, umm, iceburg): castle
So I guess this iceburg is some mad scientist's hideout (Dr. Frost or whatever).
Re:Iceburg? (Score:2, Funny)
what's an iceburg? (Score:4, Funny)
Need a better view (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Need a better view (Score:5, Funny)
Just a sec while I get out my etch-a-sketch and pound out a script
Re:Need a better view (Score:2)
Re:Need a better view (Score:2, Funny)
Ob. Family Guy Quote (Score:3, Funny)
"Oh my god, if this ice berg goes slower than 1 mile a year we're ALL GONNA DIE!!!"
Re:Need a better view (Score:3, Funny)
I've seen some Hollywood movies, so I can guarantee that when they collide, the iceberg will fly up into the air, flip over, and explode in an immense ball of flame.
apocalypse , now? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:2, Informative)
Which, IIRC threatens to bring at least a couple of the horsemen of the Apocolypse. Famine and Death being the two I immediately think of. Not to worry about Armageddon itself, though. That battle will occur seven years after the believers are taken away.
So, no, this is not Armageddon. However, it may be a sign of the Apocolypse (the non-Larry Wall kind). Get to know some Christians, if they are all missing at once, prepare for 3.5 years of good times, then 3.5 years of
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:3, Funny)
Ok, then this cannot be it. We've just had 4 years of hell on earth, and due to the election outcome in the US we're bound for another 4 years of the same.
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:2)
No, his column isn't about icebergs per se, but about the administration's attempts to paint the social security situation like it's on a collision course w/ an iceberg.
So anyway, offtopic yada yada (except for the ti
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:2)
Don't forget the local root exploit in the Linux kernel. That's a big sign of the apocalypse. Still no released patch kernel though for 2.4.x series though... odd. I guess they expect us to run a release candidate on production servers to fix this bug.
Re:apocalypse , now? (Score:2, Informative)
Nope. It can't possibly be hotter than 444.6 C. See this [john316.com] for proof.
To be even more silly... (Score:3, Informative)
Offtopic (Score:2)
So Slashdot has evolved beyond mere typos on the editor's comments and now sports typos on the headlines...
I've always found interesting that, in English, two words that are spelled differently can be pronounced the same.
Re:Offtopic (Score:2)
Example: "Have you read this? No, I'll read it tomorrow."
Re:Offtopic (Score:3, Insightful)
Or in this case, a Dutch word (berg) like a German (burg).
A Chilly Armageddon (Score:2, Funny)
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This is important because... (Score:5, Informative)
The ice tongue that the iceberg is going to hit is the ocean end of a glacier. If that is knocked off by the collision that could be like pulling the cork from a bottle. It may cause the glacier to discharge into the more rapidly than it otherwise would, raising sea levels.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg184
Re:This is important because... (Score:2)
The ice tongue that the iceberg is going to hit is the ocean end of a glacier. If that is knocked off by the collision that could be like pulling the cork from a bottle. It may cause the glacier to discharge into the more rapidly than it otherwise would, raising sea levels.
Clickable link [newscientist.com].
Re:This is important because... (Score:5, Informative)
Remember: the North Pole is all ice and no land, but the South Pole is a pretty big landmass with the ice on top of it.
Re:This is important because... (Score:2)
Remember: the North Pole is all ice and no land, but the South Pole is a pretty big landmass with the ice on top of it.
It's funny how many of those frothing-at-the-mouth, "global warming isn't real science" people don't even know that.
Not "ha ha" funny... more like, I need another drink funny.
Re:This is important because... (Score:2)
Propaganda alert! Propaganda alert!
If you read the FREAKIN' article, you'd know that the part of the glacier in question is an ice shelf that extends off of land into water. Even if a huge chunk of the glacier breaks off, it's still sitting in water.
Re:This is important because... (Score:5, Insightful)
Uh, no. This is Antarctica, where most of the glacier is over land or supported by it in some way. If the glacier slides off, it would cause an increase (abeit slight) in ocean levels.
This is my biggest gripe with how the media messed up public perception of "global warming." The press focuses so much on "rising ocean levels" due to melting floating ice that they gave the cranks ammunition to debunk the science. The reality is that it should be called "climatic change" and is more likely to cause extremes of drought/flooding and drifting of ariable land than anything else. This website [psu.edu] used to be a good resource for the topic, specifically arguing that the "greenhouse effect" is completely different from global warming.
Climate change is happening, but no one will take the problem seriously anymore, since what everybody feared would happen can't. (Leading to people ignoring what will happen.)
"As heard on the Glacier" (Score:2)
We need the best drilling team on the planet (Score:2)
Ooooh 300 million tons (Score:5, Interesting)
From the site:-
"The B-15A iceberg is a 3,000-square-kilometer (1,200-square-mile) behemoth"
Pulling figures from the nether region, i'm assuming the berg to be 100mts high. This would give us:-
Surface area = 3000 sq. km = 3000 x 1000 x 1000 = 3 x 10^9 sq. mt.
Thus, volume of berg = 3 x 10^9 x 100 = 3 x 10^11 cubic mts.
Now, i know that roughly, 1 cubic meter of ice (water) = 1000kg.
Thus, weight of berg = 3 x 10^11 x 1000 = 3 x 10^14 kgs.
That's 3000000,000,00,000kgs. = 3000000,000,00 metric tons = 300000000 kilotons = 300000 million tons!
If my math is correct, then oooh boy, this is going to be one heck of a fender bender.
Re:Ooooh 300 million tons (Score:5, Funny)
My best sig is this one.
Re:Ooooh 300 million tons (Score:3, Informative)
It was estimated to be 70% of the annual 2500 giga-tonne ice output from the Ross shelf. That's 1750000 million tonnes!
(note that a metric tonne is spelled differently than an imperial ton.)
Re:Ooooh 300 million tons (Score:2)
Great... where are we going to get 30 million liters of snow-cone syrup this quick?
Re:Ooooh 300 million tons (Score:2)
I took the water density for simplicity.
In case of slashdotting, Mirror here (Score:5, Informative)
Re:In case of slashdotting, Mirror here (Score:2)
iceberg coming... (Score:5, Funny)
Quick! Gather up your children and amble away as though your life depends on it.
Wonderful... (Score:4, Funny)
I presume the thing (Score:3, Funny)
In other news... (Score:3, Funny)
In related news... (Score:2)
"Iceburg?" - reminds me of a joke... (Score:5, Funny)
The Chinese guy picks himself up and says "What the hell was that for?!"
The Jewish guy snaps "That was for bombing Pearl Harbor."
"Pearl Harbor? Pearl harbor was bombed by the Japanese!"
The Jewish guy shrugs "Chinese, Japanese, what's the difference?!"
The next night they find themselves at the bar again, and after a snootful, the Chinese guy hauls off and decks the Jewish guy.
He picks himself up and shouts "What the hell was THAT for?"
The Chinese guy says "THAT was for sinking the Titanic!"
"Are you nuts? The Titanic was sunk by an iceberg?!"
"Yeah, well - iceberg, Goldberg - what's the difference?!"
Utterly, utterly irrelevant but (Score:2)
I'll have to put... (Score:3, Funny)
for the tin-foil hats that won't RTFA (Score:2, Informative)
Part of the natural cycle for this. Yes, t
NASA? (Score:2)
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:4, Insightful)
Its one thing to be scared its another to do something about it.
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:2)
Why the hell mention that stupid movie. Come on, while there is evidence that global warming is indeed melting icecaps and sometimes thus causing areas to cool down rather than warm up, an iceberg crashing into a glacier is hardly a sign that some hollywood blockbuster is about to become true.
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:2)
I just can't help but feel that constantly bringing up the day after tomorrow every time an iceberg is mentioned doesn't help make people take this seriously. The movie was after all, a movie made for entertainment. It was over the top, excessive, and oh so very hollywood.
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:2)
Disaster films are fun, but they have to stretch them out with dumb actors yapping. How much dialoge are they going to cram into the disaster movie about the Tsunami
Don't say they won't make that movie, thousands script writers are probably working on it write now, pitching it as featuring DiCaprio and J-Lo, with a love scene featuring a crashing wave montage.
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:2)
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:3, Insightful)
I've seen this stated in exactly one TV documentary. A documentary, which claimed that each and every other study on global warming is based on false data. Has this new study been peer-reviewed? Does anyone have any more info?
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:2)
Re:Ai chingawa... (Score:3, Informative)
As far as I know this is only clearly significant for the interior of Antartica. I'm not sure what is happening on average around the edges of Antartica, but I know in at least some areas (e.g. Ross Ice Shelf) they see
Re:I wondered how long this would take (Score:2)
flame.
ever.
thankyou AC for making me laugh out loud - 'nunshitting popefelcher'
now thats a keeper
Re:So? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:So? (Score:2)
If there is, I'm sure Slashdot will find that too.
Re:So? (Score:5, Interesting)
Not much, if you live in Montana.
But if you live in Texas, or Louisiana, or Florida, it's got quite a lot of consequence. Ice melts on its exposed edges. So break it up into smaller pieces and it melts faster, decreasing the salinity of the ocean, and thus affecting circulation, which leads to changes in storm patterns. Had any hurricanes lately?
Melting of floating ice, of course, doesn't change the sea level. But the floating glacier provides back-pressure which holds back the much larger glacier on shore. If you break off the floating part of the glacier and release the back-pressure, more of the non-floating part slides down into the sea and starts to float, and that does change the sea level. How high do you want your tide today?
Re:So? (Score:2)
Well, my current elevation is 100-1000 meters, so bring on the high tides.
However, in the recent poll, 45% of respondents were less than 100m, so they might complain.
Re:So? (Score:2)
How tall did you say you were?
Re:So? (Score:2)
That's a pretty brave position, tough guy. Try saying it when your elevation is sea level and within five miles of the ocean.
Re:So? (Score:2)
Re:So? (Score:2)
Your depleted uranium petition? :-)
Re:So? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:So? (Score:2)
Of course the actual water volume of even the largest icebergs would be a piss in the ocean in the grand scheme of things. My guess is more water would evaporate from the oceans surface in a day.
Re:So? (Score:5, Interesting)
I remember watching a program a while back which said that due to global warming huge russian rivers were dumping much more than the usual amount of fresh water in the North Atlantic.
The North Atlantic contains one end of the Gulf Stream where the warm water sinks down and flows back to the Gulf Of Mexico to be reheated. Apparently if the salinity of the water reduces by any more the warm water might not sink down and in effect turn off the Gulf Stream at which point we in the UK would be pretty f#cked.
How many other scientist agree with this idea though I am not sure.
Re:So? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:So? (Score:2)
Re:After reading... (Score:3, Funny)
Oh, wait, there won't be any fire and explosions. Never mind.
Re:Evacuation Conspiracy (Score:2)
Re:That's why it's an article (Score:2, Informative)
Fresh water entering the antarctic isn't a problem, but in the arctic it could switch off the gulf stream and mess up the weather all over the atlantic.
Re:Next up on /..... (Score:2)
In all fairness, Blue takes many articles from Slashdot as well.
Re:News (Score:2, Funny)
Q: "What happens when an unstoppable
mass hits an unmovable object?
A: "Something spectacular?"
Re:News (Score:2)
its all about the penguins (Score:2)
Its all about the penguins. Thats why the story is hear(sic)..(and not about the spelling)
Re:It's not the size, it's the speed which matters (Score:2)
Re:It's not the size, it's the speed which matters (Score:2)
Re:It's not the size, it's the speed which matters (Score:2)
Of course... if m is really really big, it isn't pretty either.
Also, remember that, in the case of asteroid impact, a fair bit of m ends up in the atmosphere.
Re:Tsunami warning ? (Score:2)
Slashdot gets it right (Score:2)
Re:Iceburger (Score:3, Funny)
You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in France?
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Re:Iceburg poll... (Score:2)
I) Nothing, unless CowboyNeal falls into water, then 'F'