V for Vendetta Going to Hollywood 175
gludington writes "Alan Moore's "other" early masterpiece, V for Vendetta, is in early pre-production. Joel Silver and the Wachowski brothers will produce for Warner Brothers, and Natalie Portman will play Evey Hammond. The rest of the movie is as yet uncast (and unwritten), so release dates on the article and the imdb entry should be taken with a sizable grain of salt."
Petrified (Score:2, Funny)
Wachowski "brothers"? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Wachowski "brothers"? (Score:3, Funny)
If that's what the blue pill does to you, I'll take the red pill ANY day.
Even if he looks as good as that lady in the red dress, I still wouldn't want to arrange a meeting.
How does he know what chicken tastes like...oh, nevermind.
I can only show you the closet door, you must come out of it on your own.
If he's the guide, I really don't think I want to find out how far his rabbit hole goes.
The matrix used a lot of console-based stuff, but I bet if he had his way, ther
Mmmm...just the thing (Score:4, Funny)
A little salt is just the thing to liven up a bowl of hot grits.
Re:Mmmm...just the thing (Score:2)
Re:Mmmm...just the thing (Score:1)
You KNOW Hollywood Will Screw It Up (Score:5, Insightful)
The real challange is to see which sucks more, this or the movie version of Watchman.
- Crow T. Trollbot
Re:You KNOW Hollywood Will Screw It Up (Score:1)
I feel it would be deemed too "challenging" for the generic movie audience unfortunately.
Re:You KNOW Hollywood Will Screw It Up (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:You KNOW Hollywood Will Screw It Up (Score:3, Interesting)
Relax, yo. (Score:3, Insightful)
After these movies are made, there will still be you and the comics. Life will still be good.
There was a time when there was a bad movie in the theaters, but you did not go see it, and you did not suffer. Life was good.
There was also a time when there was a bad movie, and you did go see it, and you did suffer. But then the movie was over, and life was good again.
These movies can't "ruin" anythi
Re:Relax, yo. (Score:2)
Re:You KNOW Hollywood Will Screw It Up (Score:2)
looks seriously cool - and true to the comics style..
Re:You KNOW Hollywood Will Screw It Up (Score:2)
Nice troll, Jackie Harvey, but neither will be worse than Elektron with Janice Garner.
What is Vendetta? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
I think I just brought those in some things I picked up from my mother's house, actually. I'm going to have to pick though the books and see if they're still around...
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:1)
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Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
Never did see the Warrior stuff. What year was that?
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
V did not finish in the Warrior run. I think it got about 50% through and either Moore gave up for a while or the mag went belly-up (any really old-timers out there who can say?). The entire story was not told until it reached DC. So, while the folks who read the Warrior stuff were the fir
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
But now with N. Portman it's going to be a 12 tissue movie...
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
P.S. The poster was not stupid, merely uninformed.
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:3, Interesting)
From said article: "Synopsis: A powerful story about loss of freedom and individuality, V for Vendetta takes place in a totalitarian England following a devastating war that changed the face of the planet. In a world without political freedom, personal freedom and precious little faith in anything comes a mysterious man in a white porcelain mask who fights political oppressors through terrorism and seemingly absurd acts. It's a gripping tale of the blurred lines between ideological good
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:3, Funny)
Agh, not another Moore documentary.
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:1)
Oh, don't be fooled by that "powerful story about loss of freedom and individuality" bit, it's not another Farenheit 9/11 movie
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
I read a recent review about some California Syrah's in Wine Spectator magazine. And, what was really odd, is that the wine reviewer talked about how the vintage seemed to have lost some "freedom and individuality" from prior vintages.
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:2)
Still, at least they appear not to have cast a star as V, so there is a chance of them not "doing a Stallone" and showing his face.
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:1)
-dynamo
I, too, will bite. (Score:2)
Words are, in the form of the novel, accepted as being serious works. Pictures are, in the form of the single framed image in the museum, accepted as being serious works. But when you combine the two, somehow it sets off a blaring need to insult the medium in some people. The medium---this would be like saying "because it is a novel, it sucks---I need no other information".
The answer
Ahoy! (Score:2)
--grendel drago
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:1)
Yeah, we know. If you didn't like it, it just can't be art. Well, better start clean my bookshelf for all those non-worthy pieces of non-literature
Re:What is Vendetta? (Score:5, Interesting)
"grow up and realize that Sailor Moon and X-Men are not literature"
While I agree that most "comics" are not literature, there is a fine distinction between comics as entertainment and comics as art form. A good friend of mine presented his graphic arts thesis - a four foot high series of comic panels. I don't like the word comic because it naturally implies humor. So the term I've started to use is "graphic novels."
I don't consider serials or regular comic books to be graphic novels. But looking at something like the Pulitzer Prize winning Maus [virginia.edu] by Art Spiegelman, you see that it's not all funny or action-related. I read that when I was in seventh grade, just a year after it came out. I picked it up thinking it was a comic book... it's not.
I just read Blankets [amazon.com] by Craig Thompson. I got sucked in and a few hours later it was all over. Most normal books don't have the emotional impact that his work does.
Graphic novels try to bridge the gap between literature and visual art. It's not often that they really succeed, but when they do it can be far more effective than a regular novel.
Wachowski (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, and due to the whole pandering-to-the-audience thing they seem to be infamous for, there will be a scene with Portman and hot grits.
Re:Wachowski (Score:3, Insightful)
At least this time they're up front that it's an adaptation. That should be good enough for the /. crowd to forgive them.
Who do we hate today?
Seriously, though. (Score:2)
The movie will prominently feature a marginalized group, like homosexuals or people of color. The movie will have an obvious color theme. The movie will exhibit a solid understanding of cultural theory and/or philosophy, although that understanding will not be crucial to enjoyment of the film.
Based on the material in V for Vendetta, the Wachowskis may also bring some politics into the mix. I'd love it.
Re:Seriously, though. (Score:2)
(No, it's not un-PC.)
Cultural Terms (Score:2)
Heck if I know anymore... I remember when that became the "correct term" in grade school, FWIW. Personally, I just say "blacks" in conversation and "negroes" when speaking in a paper. I figure the first is common enough and the second is properly recognizing the defined physiology terms.
To bring this (sort of) on topic, do we refer to the X-men as "mutants" or "differently abled people" these days?
Re:Wachowski (Score:1)
Actually, that's perfect.
Alan Moore wrote 7 issues of V for Vendetta which started really strong bust started to lose focus, then left it on the shelf, unfinished, for a while, then finally emerged
Re:Wachowski (Score:2)
Google (Score:1, Informative)
Just give in... (Score:3, Funny)
I mean, I'm a Natalie fan, too, but posting anything remotely relating to her *here* and expecting a meaningful discussion is
Xentax
Wachowski BROTHERS? (Score:5, Funny)
Don't you mean the Wachowski Siblings [fabmagazine.com]?
Re:Wachowski BROTHERS? (Score:2)
Hence... (Score:2)
Hence all those informative and reliable links you've posted.
--grendel drago
Is this good or bad? (Score:2, Insightful)
On the one hand, this is one of my all-time favorite graphic novels. I would love it if more people became aware of it.
But on the other hand, I just know it's going to get butchered. The Wachowskis had a chance to tell a subtle and ponderous story in The Matrix and they completely blew it.
Crap! (Score:5, Funny)
Crosses Fingers (Score:2, Insightful)
Mr Jones, are these your [i]knockers[/i]?
Oh dear, your [i]mellons[/i] have spilled out!
Re: Crosses Fingers (Score:2)
Somebody pour hot grits down my pants.
Re: Crosses Fingers (Score:3, Informative)
Matrix 3? (Score:2)
Definition (Score:2)
EARLY PRE-PRODUCTION: "Since only geeks know what 'V for Vendetta' is about, we are raising the money necessary to find a huge star. Without one, we are cooked."
Re:Definition (Score:1)
Cartoons and comic books are entirely within the domain of the Spaz, Knob, Bozo, and/or Retard.
Transmet. And so forth. (Score:2)
And, hell, I'm a geek. I read Vernor Vinge, have a couple thousand edits on Wikipedia and work as a sysadmin. (Well, did. I'm slightly between jobs. But I get interviewed tomorrow...) And I have a wall full of comics. You're saying that Cerebus, with its Marx Brothers allusions and thousand-page political intrigues, isn't just the slightest bit geeky?
Please distinguish between super
Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:5, Interesting)
If you don't know, V for Vendetta was about an anarchist (in the classical theoretical sense, not the bs modern punk rock sense) revolutionary who uses "terrorist" tactics to save Britain from fascism. It's not something that I see Hollywood understanding, even though I think most people would understand why the tactics were used, and the politics behind them.
In the book, V straddles the line between anarchist and vanguard, taking actions into his own hands, but with the express purpose of encouraging the people to fight back. It's not about an anarcho-socialist utopia, it recognizes the compromises that an anarchist would have to make in dire circumstances.
And ultimately, it's really, really fucking cool. Please, hollywood, please don't fuck it up.
"hollywood, please don't fuck it up" - OXYMORON (Score:2)
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:1, Interesting)
1)From what I've read, the Norsemen are now Nazis.
2)There was no WWIII, instead only WWII with a hang over for 60 years.
3)We'll be lucky if they say "Remember remember" ever. You know, us stupid americans never learn anything about another culture. [for the un knowning, this is a story on "Guy Fox"(I know, not right spelling, but now we will be able to sound it out)]
4)Oh, and we still won't know how "The Vicious Caberet" will sound like.
5)and last but not least, I know they like the story,
Guy Fawkes (Score:2)
http://www.bonefire.org/guy [bonefire.org]
This year is the 400th aniversary of the Gunpowder Plot, so it would be a nice tie in for a movie...you know, for the international audience.
Re:Guy Fawkes (Score:2)
Why, I hear they even have textbooks that teach evolution without a warning sticker. Imagine such sophistication!
Oh dang. There goes the Karma.
It's going to hurt. (Score:2)
You know, Americans can pronounce "Fawkes" if we've seen "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets". (Remember Dumbledore's pet phoenix?)
I do agree that the worst part of it all is that they'll have to show V's face. Damn it, that was one of the key elements of the book---that Evey decided not to take off V's mask, because, and I'm paraphrasing here, "who you are could never be as big as all thosepeople you could have been".
If they include Valeri
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
The movie is either going to be one of three things: 1) nice and close to the source; 2) a complete hack job; or 3) updated to take on Bush administration policies.
If it's #3, be prepared for it to take place in the US and not the UK... and if that's the case, things could be either fucking brilliant or fucking lame.
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
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Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
The gist of the story is that the world has undergone a mini-nuclear war (one of the characters mentions that "there aren't any elephants any more") and the resulting food shortages lead to the collapse of the old government and a fascist regime takes over. I'd imagine that it was seen as a fri
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:1)
Well, there's a clue on the official image [efavata.com] for V for Vendetta : "Remember, remember the 5th of November". Which is the first line of the Guy Fawkes nursery rhyme (and it's used in the graphic novel), the guy who tried to blow up the Houses of Parliament on the 5th November 1605. So the UK seems very likely.
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
One can only hope they are referring to Guy Fawkes, but a quick search of Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] shows that Nixon was elected in 1968 on 11/5, along with other little milestones in US history. Do I think they would equate Nixon's election to the impact Guy Fawkes Night has in V? I don't think so, but I'm not entirely sure.
So, it could be faithful, or it could be trite. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
Not a chance. Certainly not in the era of Bush II, who's taking Reaganism further than Reagan did.
And did you
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
Even Bob Barr, of the American Conservative Union (and a former rabid-dog House Manager during the Clinton Impeachment), has joined [aclu.org] with [prospect.org] the ACLU [cnn.com] to criticize this administration's moves to hinder personal rights in this country. How in the world can you say this is not a government flirting with fascism?
Re:Please don't butcher this, please. (Score:2)
And, trust me, Margaret is still a fascist and even raised her son to be one (you do pay attention to current events, don't you?). Being a fascist does not mean one has to exterminate six million of a religious minority in concentration camps or make the trains run on time... those are just examples of extreme fascism.
Not true. (Score:2)
Whoever decided to "refactor" Moore's take on Britain should be barred from touching a keyboard, typewriter or inkwell ever, ever again.
--grendel drago
We cross our fingers (Score:3, Informative)
V might have a simpler story line, but the mood the drawings set is so much more important. Have a look at some of the panels [shadowgalaxy.net] to see what I mean.
But oh, it would be nice if they could pull it off, though.
Terrorist as the lead? Not in Hollywood (Score:1)
I love Alan Moore's stories. Hate his movies.
Re:Terrorist as the lead? Not in Hollywood (Score:1)
Re:Terrorist as the lead? Not in Hollywood (Score:2, Informative)
By the strict definition V isn't a terrorist as he aims to destroy the regime not terrorise it until it gives up. He does, however, use terrorist techniques and does scare the people in power, but his main aim is to pull the common people out of their complacency by using shock tactics.
Re:Terrorist as the lead? Not in Hollywood (Score:1)
You're not serious right? By that definition everyone who fought in any war ever was a terrorist. Oh maybe you are on to something....
Quickly stolen... (Score:2)
Just like The Matrix [slccglobelink.com]...
BZZT. (Score:2)
--grendel drago
Re:BZZT. (Score:2)
Did you read the link? (Score:2)
Would it have been more credible if I'd just pasted it in?
--grendel drago
Re:Quickly stolen... (Score:2)
That doesn't change a thing. They still stole the plot. And you suck.
As an American... (Score:3, Funny)
Evey = Mathilda (Score:4, Insightful)
She actually played a similar role in her first movie, the brilliant Leon (aka The Professional). Both Evey in V and Mathilda in Leon are young girls forced to grow up before their time by the harsh world they live in, and who form an intimate relationship with a cold blooded but sympathetic killer.
Who to play V? (Score:1)
Hi, I'm Troy McLure... (Score:4, Funny)
don't hold your breath (Score:1)
Timing and Political Direction (Score:3, Insightful)
On a similar thread, I wonder if the political/philosophical background will be changed to suit mass audience demographics. Telling the public they are responsible for their own problems usually doesn't go over too well with them.
Yet another Moore book turned B movie (Score:5, Insightful)
Right now the preview says: "a mysterious man in a white porcelain mask who fights political oppressors through terrorism and seemingly absurd acts", but this description doesn't fit the darker spirit of the original.
While the description does mention terrorism, V is much more complex than that, as described in several reviews and analysis, like this one [shadowgalaxy.net]. Thus I'm expecting that along the road, V will be transformed into some kind of "masked avenger" or Batman-like superhero, better suited for the post-9/11 era.
I don't expect the movie to portrait V blowing up government buildings, killing policemen and a priest, questioning Justice and promoting Anarchy, like in the original. So, what's the point of adapting it? If these Wachowski guys want some story about oppression, they'd be better off adapting Cinderella for that matter.
If it's changed in such a way, it will be ironic that a story that shows a world of totalitarianism and lack of freedom won't be translated verbatim into another medium because of issues with "political correctness".
Re:Yet another Moore book turned B movie (Score:2)
Boy, were you wrong!
TWW
Wachowski Brothers Hacks? (Score:2, Interesting)
Article Link [slccglobelink.com]
I hope it has commercials stuck in the middle (Score:2)
That'l teach US!
A note on screenplays past (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:the obvious question (Score:2, Funny)
That's in the sequel, H for Hot Grits.
Re:the obvious question (Score:2)
AintItCool reports that Don Knotts has signed on for the role of hot grits.
Re:the obvious question (Score:2, Funny)
Re:What happened? (Score:1)
Did Slashdot just blow up?
Frankly I think it's a cron job.
Re:Continuing their trend... (Score:2)
I is for "I get it" (Score:2)