Napster Has Been Cracked 616
Sabathius writes "Users have found a way to skirt copy protection on Napster Inc's portable music subscription service just days after its high-profile launch, potentially letting them make CDs with hundreds of thousands of songs for free...""
Man... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Man... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Man... (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, the DRM can be bypassed by having winamp send the audio straight to a raw WAVE file. Winamp stopped this previously by preventing DRM files from using a direct write-to-wav plug-in. However, this hack uses an additional plug-in to bypass this.
The sad thing is that the Output Stacker has been pulled from the winamp website.
Users have been posting links to sites that still contain Output Stacker in the forums.
This recipe contains the step-by-step directions for the hack and active links to the plug-ins. [tech-recipes.com]
Re:Man... (Score:3, Insightful)
Basically, if you can hear music, you can steal it. It's just a matter of the quality you're willing to put up with. It's amazing to me that anyone thinks they can set up a situation where you ultimately send an unencrypted digital stream of data to your audio card, but no one's going to divert that stream to the hard disk.
Re:Man... (Score:4, Interesting)
Click here to see the original post I made on this [cdfreaks.com]
Anyhow, I hope you all are enjoying it. I merely wanted to transcode the files I had bought (3207 and climbing....) so I could load them on a non-WMA-aware MP3 player like any other piece of music I own. I certainly didn't intend for Napster to start a 14-day free trial, nor did I expect this method to get "out into the wild" (although, posting on the internet is no way to keep anything secret.....). I would like to take this moment and kindly remind you all that unless you actually *buy* some tracks, Napster loses money. Napster loses enough money, they'll fold shop. The artists will then get reamed by iTunes. Don't let it happen guys, lets at least try to be honest.
--warlock1711 of club cdfreaks.
Re:Man... (Score:5, Insightful)
Hymn (the iTunes DRM remover) keeps the encoded data encoded, simply removes the copy protection, wheras this takes the decompressed audio, writes it as a wav file to the disk. As a result, if you want to encode it to save space, say, WMA, or ogg or MP3, you're losing more information (I suppose you could also go with FLAC, but that's a lot of space for a mediocre bitrate WMA version anyway).
All in all, I'd say wait for a better way of bypassing the DRM before you hog up to the Napster smorgasboard.
Re:Man... (Score:5, Informative)
And do them in parallel to beat the real time limitation.
Re:Man... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Man... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Man... (Score:4, Informative)
CRAP saves space by throwing away data, losing quality. However, you only lose quality the first time around. You can transcode between FLAC and CRAP as many times as you want, and there is no subsequent data or quality loss.
The problem arises when different formats/encoders throw away different parts of the spectrum. Then, the end result is a file that contains only the frequencies nobody threw away along the transcoding pipeline.
In the end, I mean to say a transcoder in and by itself won't cause loss of data. You can convert to wav and back to a compressed format with no data loss, if you know what you're doing.
Only true for lossless codecs (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Man... (Score:3, Interesting)
it's good enough (Score:3, Insightful)
seriously, for most folks, the sound will be plenty good enough. but for audiophiles and perfectionists ....
Re:it's good enough (Score:5, Funny)
Turns out they don't care since they'd never purchase that low quality of music in the first place eh?
Re:Really lossy? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Man... (Score:4, Informative)
Original recording -> MP3: loss
MP3 -> WAV: no additional loss
WAV -> MP3: more loss
Each time you convert to a lossy format, there is more going on that "throwing away the parts of the music you can't hear", which is often the quick, oversimplified explanation of lossy compression. There's added noise due to compression as well, and that noise will be, at least to some extent, cumulative with additional generation of compression.
Even if the psychoacoustic models used were perfect (which they aren't, especially at low bit rates), at the very least there would be generational loss from calculation round-off errors when converting from MP3 to WAV and back again.
Re:Quality (Score:5, Insightful)
I still prefer CD's because of their ease of use and portability, but when I'm sitting alone in my main listening environment, I definately perfer the sound of vinyl.
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
Output Stacker plugin URL (Score:5, Informative)
The details on the plugin are cached here, this is the PULLED page:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:zsalM
This thread lists where it can be found NOW:
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?thr
And this contains the plugin:
http://forums.winamp.com/attachment.php?
Google is a wonderful thing when companies wish to backtrack like that.
The plugin has tons of geniune uses... pulling it, well yeah I understand AOL/Time Warner's motives... but they're kinda dumb.
I saw it coming! (Score:5, Funny)
Whatever (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Insightful)
And of course the DarkNet paper showed us all what we already knew: With DRM, you have to give the user everything needed to play the file. That includes the cryptography algorithm and the key. Thus, all DRM is breakable.
Re:Whatever (Score:3, Interesting)
Bollocks - you're assuming you have complete control of the execution environment. That is not the case on some platforms (cellphones springs to mind) and there are incentives (I'm sure you know the acronym) to make a "secure platform" within our normal open platforms to reach the same goal.
Re:*I* call bollocks on *you* (Score:5, Insightful)
The thing is always in the hand of the user. With some tools, I can completely re-flash my cell phone. If I'm smart, I can even make the modifications I did stealth from the POV of the cell phone company. This is and will always be true, unless you start making appliances that explode when you open them. Or when you try to make any "illegal operation" with them.
...Or until you persuade the government to criminilize attempts to defeat your DRM. Then you can make your DRM encryption as weak as you want, and let the police pick up the slack for your laziness/technological shortcomings.
Re:*I* call bollocks on *you* (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, this doesn't exactly help alot since copying the music is already illegal (copyright infringement) providing you can not claim fair use.
I'll make an analogy.
Stealing bikes is forbidden according to law. But some people still steal bikes fully aware that it is illegal. So bike
Will I? (Score:5, Insightful)
I repeat: YES, I will.
If it's on *my* memorystick, I will extract it. If it requires a closed software to play it, I'll install such closed software under a hacked version of QEMU that instead of playing some stream writes it into a file. Digitally.
I guess Akio Morita did not know what he was getting into when he had the CD/DAT idea "let's write everything digitally in the media".
Repeat after me: there is no DRM. It's cryptographically infeasible. One of the pillars of crypto is that the key must travel between Alice and Bob by a secured mean, so that Eve cannot get a hold of it. When Bob is schizo and Eve is the same as Bob, Eve has the key, so Eve has the message. Pristine. Not even quantum crypto can give a real DRM.
Re:One more time... (Score:3, Informative)
To be fair, so is most of what you wrote.
The point here is that you're talking about two or three different things simulataneously. The XBox, for example, doesn't have DRM. It has various protections, I grant you, but calling these DRM is a bit outside the usual scope of the term.
Getting back to the original post you made:
Please tell me the private key used for signing Xbox games. I'm well aware that we (my wordin
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Informative)
The only Virtual CD Burner software I've seen is called Original CD Emulator [ztekware.com]. It creates a fake CD Burner in the same way DaemonTools creats a fake CD drive.
If anyone knows any other software that can do the same things as these too, please post them here too.
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Funny)
Quiet you. If my next soundblaster comes with some new fangled Macrovision, it'll be your fault.
Or would that be Macroaudio?
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Informative)
For instance, I'm in the pro audio industry and folks have always claimed that a soundblasters S/N and other specs are right up there with the big boys. Of course they are -- their team is comprised of greats from around the industry including their aquisition of Ensoniq a few years back.
What they don't tell you is that the digital outs and otherwise are disabled in the drivers. The claim is that you get 24bit in / out -- but the reality is that even if you are doing a pure pass through, that 24 bit randomly drops bits down to a signal of as low as 14.
The strange this is this doesn't happen with the free drivers that were available for Linux nor the Mac solutions. And then someone backported one of the Ensoniq proaudio card drivers after realizing the chipset was identical and was able to bring this back to the PC by doing a little hex editing...and the audio in phenomenal (although the driver is still a bit buggy and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone that needed a serious project undertaken).
But yeah, if Creative needed to make the industry happy, they'd throw in Macrovision in a heartbeat. Sad that your post is rated funny...
Note: This was true several years back...I don't deal with audio interfaces as I once did, so it may not be true any longer.
Also now, this is Off Topic, please rate it accordingly. I'm an AC and don't give a rats ass.
Re:Whatever (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Whatever (Score:3, Informative)
Good quality too.
Copied Music (Score:5, Funny)
Now the name Napster will be tried to illegally copied music... and after all the paid of the good number of that company...
Re:Copied Music (Score:3)
preview....preview....preview....
Hey, what do you expect... (Score:5, Funny)
Before you criticise the craftwork, consider the medium.
You don't expect a pile of burning tires to be stacked neatly, do you? That's about the same as expecting coherence and grammar in a slashdot post.
Re:Copied Music (Score:5, Funny)
Old News (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh this has been explained for a while: http://marv.kordix.com/archives/000400.html [kordix.com]
All that is happening is that people are grabbing the actual output of the song, and dropping it into a wav file. This will ALWAYS happen with any kind of copy protection. If you let users actually hear (music) or see (movies/tv) the content, there will always be a way to get it. At the absolute worst, people can just set up a tape recorder and grab it from that.
Regardless, the point is that it is STILL ILLEGAL to abuse. Until you can get people to stop breaking the law voluntarily (via fair pricing and good business practices), all media/content companies will have to keep playing this game. What they need to realize is that they are always going to lose.
Re:Old News (Score:5, Informative)
you are absolutely right, however, the difference here is, napster is a subscription model. (with a free trial to boot.) so the circumvention of the DRM means you get as many songs as you want for little or no money. music download sites, like iTMS or MSN, you have to pay first, then crack it all you want... so media/content companies aren't quite "losing" there to the same degree...
Re:Old News (Score:3, Funny)
Not if you build the copy protection into the user...
Re:Old News (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Old News (Score:4, Insightful)
I think the point your getting at here is that we live in an imperfect world. The fact is that there will always be someone who will break the law. In order to stop all crime, you have to place very strict, cumbersome laws and practices -- and even then someone will find a way around them(we humans are quite resourceful when it comes to finding new and devious ways to circumvent authority). The key is finding the balance between discouraging crime and maintaining the usability and popularity of your product to your customers.
It has been my experience that it is much better to lean toward ignoring piracy for the sake of our law abiding customers rather than to hurt everybody to stop the few bad apples. Our customers end up being much happier, and we also get fewer support calls. Win-win.
Re:Old News (Score:3, Informative)
Unless you want to keep uncompressed audio, you will lose quality using this hack.
You should look up fair use [copyright.gov], it is much more restrictive than you seem to think it is.
Sorry, not legal to abuse anywhere. (Score:3, Insightful)
No, it quite certainly is still illegal to abuse. A subscription to Napster gives you the legal right to use the songs you want for as long as you pay a subscription to Napster. You are not paying for the song; you are paying for the right to RENT the song.
http://www.napster.com/terms.html [napster.com]
Even if it was illegal, dont try to pretend that it still wouldnt be IMMORAL. Does it really matter if your country doesn't have specific laws keeping you from doing this?
Does the artist of the song get paid? No? Well
Re:Old News (Score:3, Insightful)
I was doing the old WTF? as I was reading each of these comments. The only thing "wrong" with the Napster technique is that people are abusing a free trial period. There is nothing unethical in dumpi
Re:Old News (Score:3, Insightful)
Just because their "idea" is XYZ is not reason enough to say there is anything wrong with WXY.
Or are you in the same delusional world as Jack Valenti who thinks using a VCR is copyright infringment and Ted Turner who thinks that going to the bathroom during a TV commercial is theft?
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Re:Old News (Score:3, Insightful)
There is NO moral force behind intellectual property laws that have been improperly manipulated in such a way as to deprive the public of rights forever. A temporary monopoly is a chance to make a profit, a perpetual monopoly is a license to steal from the public domain.
Re:Old News (Score:5, Insightful)
NB. I'm making a point about laws, not about my opinion on current intellectual property laws.
Re:Old News (Score:3, Interesting)
Yes, many people do consider the law wrong in this case. Not your meaning, but your choice of phrasing came out all too conveniently ambiguous.
The problem here involves the length of copyright, and the sources of "real" creativity...
First, publishing and distribution have become much easier and cheaper than when the idea of copyrights first entered the law. As a result, you don't need word of mouth and 20 years of slow tri
Sounds like it's time for the RIAA... (Score:3, Funny)
Free? (Score:4, Funny)
Aw Crap (Score:5, Informative)
I use a program called tunebite [tunebite.com] that plays the files back and records them to MP3, as well as copying over album/artist metadata from the tags.
Hopefully I can get everything copied before they fix it (if they ever can fix it).
Re:Aw Crap (Score:5, Interesting)
Possible workarounds for them:
Oh dear (Score:5, Insightful)
"The DRM (digital rights management) is intact. Basically, people are just recording off a sound card. This is nothing new and people could do this with any legitimate service if they want to use a sound card," she said.
"This kind of attack has been around for a long time and it's just because of our higher profile that it has sparked such interest," she said.
But isn't this the point? All it takes a little software tool and suddenly everyone can do it. You can't just "ignore" attacks - because the attackers certainly wont.
Simon.
What they actually mean is... (Score:5, Insightful)
Don't think it isn't being worked on, just not by Napster. You can read more about Secure Audio Path [microsoft.com] here. Of course, the next step is a simple loopback-cable to another sound card (your input will be disabled while doing secure playback). The next step is to add a broadcast flag to the signal, only to have people circumvent it. Then they'll go for Secure Digital speakers. Then people will record with a high-fidelity microphone. And some time after they ban A/D converters, we will win (or the digital society we've made will collapse, whichever comes first).
Kjella
Who thought, it would take Slashdot this long? (Score:4, Informative)
"Growsing about rejected submissions" my behind -- I submitted a better worded snap with more informative links two days ago...
WinAmp has pulled the plug-in in question from their site, it seems...
Re:Who thought, it would take Slashdot this long? (Score:3, Informative)
Oddly, this doesn't seem to have appeared on thousands of mirrors across the web yet, so please, take pity on Marv and, if you can, mirror it and post a link here.
That Napster business plan in full (Score:4, Funny)
2. Wait for DRM to be cracked, in, ooh, three or four days.
3. Your subscriptions suddenly rocket
4. PROFIT!
That's not a crack (Score:4, Insightful)
Are we not just talking about the analog hole (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Are we not just talking about the analog hole (Score:4, Informative)
I wouldn't say cracked (Score:5, Informative)
You can do this will *all* DRM media, nothing new here - It's only because it's Napster (woohoooo) that people think it's revolutionary. It isn't.
Re:I wouldn't say cracked (Score:4, Insightful)
You can do this will *all* DRM media, nothing new here - It's only because it's Napster (woohoooo) that people think it's revolutionary. It isn't.
Actually, no. The big news here is because it is a subscription service. I.e. you take a temporary copy, and make it a permanent one. It has a completely different impact on the business model than say Hymn and the iTMS.
Impact? (Score:4, Insightful)
Well, its come full circle. (Score:4, Funny)
Broadcast flag has been cracked (Score:5, Funny)
listen up MBA know-it-alls! (Score:3, Insightful)
good administration (remember the "A" in "MBA"?) requires understanding how to meld the ideal (scamming --er-- making lots of money from your suckers --er-- clients/consumers) w/ the real (in this context, the fact that digital anything is infinitely reproducible w/ infinitessimal cost).
when you forget that and start thinking that the "M" stands for "marketing", you lose. your loss may be immediate or it may be drawn out, but in the end that is not where you want to be. sure, a few years in $lopping it up in the trough before it all goes to shit is a worthy aspiration -- if that's what you believe, fine.
if technical people (those more rooted in reality than you) tell you it's not going to fly, do everyone a favor and listen to them. maybe you will stop being such pompous jackasses w/ a little practice.
Napster v.s. iTunes (Score:5, Funny)
iTunes: $0.99 per song.
Napster: 14 day free trial: All the songs you can download and copy to MP3.
Hrm... =)
Not cracked (Score:5, Informative)
Napster have already responded on their site (link in top right) and basically said the same thing. They also rightly pointed out (i think, as i've not tried) that this would be a 1:1 copy, so a 60 minute album would take you the same amount of time to copy - which isn't going to be much fun to do lots of.
Apparantly rumour has it that Steve Jobs contacted music executives, pointing them to the site and the Napster CEO countered by pointing out several sites which showed you how to do the same with iTunes files. I'm not sure how true this is.
Interestingly enough, the Winamp plugin required to do this - Output Stacker - was pulled from the winamp site. Which I find a little odd, since there are perfectly legal uses for the plugin - so I don't understand why they're playing censorer (to be safe?)
If anyone knows where to get it from, it would be appreciated since Googles cache shows no homepage and a Google search of the author gives only a set of links to a non-working winamp.com URL.
Google digging gave a link... (Score:3, Informative)
I don't listen to pop music (only Enigma, Eminem and a few others) - and I don't have the bandwidth to pull it off Napster. But how hard it is to really hook up something like Mp3 Recoder [advancedmp3recorder.com] and do this with WMplayer (I record webcasts from clients).
Google is a REALLY dangerous tool against censorship. But that all said, you can't just supress information - Information wants to be free.
Re:Not cracked (Score:3, Informative)
And Apple... (Score:4, Funny)
Ruthless business tactics IMHO, dare I say reminiscent of the Redmond giant. I wish he'd let consumers decide which service is better rather than try to sabatoge Napster with his industry connections and FUD.
(Disclaimer: Heard this as a rumor - I wasn't exactly CCed on Steve's e-mail - but I had no reason to disbelieve the source).
Re:And Apple... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:And Apple... (Score:3, Insightful)
If you declare war, you can't really bitch that the other side just spanked you.
This Rumour Confirmed UNTRUE (Score:3, Informative)
Napter CTO responds (Score:5, Informative)
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It has come to our attention that there are a number of inaccurate statements posted by various sources on the Internet regarding the security of Napster and Napster To Go. As Napster's CTO, I would like to officially state that neither Napster To Go, Napster, nor Windows Media DRM have been hacked. In the interest of providing the most accurate information to consumers, the following is some background on the subject.
There is a program that allows a user to record the playback of tracks directly from the computer's sound card. This process can be likened to the way people used to record songs from the radio onto cassette tapes, but instead of capturing the music on a tape, the file is converted into a new, unprotected digital format. This program does not break the encryption of the files, which can only be recorded one at a time making the process quite laborious. It would take 10 hours to convert 10 hours of music in this manner. It is important to note that this program is not specific to Napster; files from all legal subscription and pay-per-download services can be copied in this way.
We hope that the information provided above clarifies the matter and puts questions regarding the security of Napster and Napster To Go to rest. Napster's mission is to provide consumers with a legal environment in which they can experience and discover the world's largest collection of digital music. We believe that artists should be compensated for their work and intellectual property rights should be respected. While we acknowledge there are always going to be those who do not share our belief, we remain committed to providing the most enjoyable and flexible digital music experience for those who do.
I told them. I TOLD them. (Score:3, Funny)
Why do they even try (Score:3, Insightful)
Its not a crime (Score:4, Informative)
Analog Hole (Score:3, Interesting)
They are recording the output, en route to the speakers. This is called the analog hole. (If you can hear it, you can record it.)
There is a strong effort by content companies to close the analog hole. How? By controlling access to analog-to-digital conversion hardware through new laws.
That's right, it may one day be illegal to use a D/A converter any way you want.
Read the top article here. [http]
New key developments (Score:5, Informative)
-If you use the "Out-lame" [sourceforge.net] Winamp plugin in the Output Stacker in place of "Out-disk", you can convert straight to MP3. It still encodes no faster than realtime, but this is a great way to conserve space. WAV(Out-disk) is still recommended if you are burning CDs and want to keep as much quality as possible. I can confirm that this all works.
-You can run multiple instances of Winamp at once, each converting its own song. Each instance's playback will not interfere with any of the others, illustrating the fact that this is not simply recording the music off of your soundcard. Doing this, you can get FAR MORE than 252 full 80 minute CDs within 14 days. I can confirm that this works.
You can transcode(MP3) or decode(WAV) X albums in the time it takes for the longest track on the album to elapse. And since you're not limited to only tracks from one album at a time, you can trans/decode as many tracks as instances of Winamp your computer will run limited only by your computer's resources.
Quote from Napster's official statement: "It would take 10 hours to convert 10 hours of music in this manner."
With the updated methods, you can convert 100 hours or 1,000 hours or 10,000 hours of music in 10 hours. The only limit is your computing resources.
Re:New key developments (Score:5, Informative)
CTRL-P and go to "General Preferences". Once there, click on "Allow multiple instances" and voila.
Mounting lobbyist costs for the RIAA (Score:3, Funny)
Press Release (Score:5, Funny)
Expected (Score:3, Informative)
Its just the way of the world now.
The Real Reason this was Reported (Score:3, Interesting)
The timing of this not-new-news release, right when Napster's new monthly flat-fee subscription service debuts, was no accident. It was meant to hit Napster on Wall Street, and as of this writing in early trading it's already paltry stock price is down over 2% on the news.
Um... duh? (Score:3, Insightful)
As long as any type of music is taking an analog path out to the listener's ear, it will ALWAYS be possible to "crack"
That's not cracking, it's common sense.
Talk about your sensationalist journalism... I was expecting to read some article about a batch processor that strips the DRM from the MP3 files, not requiring decoding and re-encoding again.
Who it thier right mind (Score:3, Interesting)
Im sure the 128 of Napster is probably equiv to about a 160, but that really still isn't good enough, particularly when you consider that your buying a crippled version (Which is fine if they could guarentee that there will always be mp3 players, portable and computer based) and to keep your going to have to burn/rip which is going to kill all definition that the original song had. If I buy something digitally I expect to be able to keep it,
I'd rather donate $2 per track to the artist and download off a dodgy P2P app than pay any music company $1 and be forced to re-buy it when they decide that its time for a new music tech and for everybody to re-buy thier old music.
Napster was right (Score:4, Funny)
Bollywood's copy protection scheme (Score:3, Funny)
They produce mostly Hindi musicals.
Re:Damn...must not be very high quality songs... (Score:2)
Only depends on the bitrate
Re:Damn...must not be very high quality songs... (Score:5, Funny)
Uhm... Napster?
So much for the business model...
Re:Damn...must not be very high quality songs... (Score:3, Interesting)
Actually, wouldn't this boost the value of music bought by neo-Napster for the consumer, and thus increase sales ?
"Oh no, our DRM has been broken ! Now all the people who want to burn their own CD's or just down't like DRM will consider us a viable choice of getting music from ! Oh, woe are us !"
Of course, it's possible that the record labels will pull their music now...
Re:Damn...must not be very high quality songs... (Score:3, Funny)
It's always nice when someone doesn't get the joke. It's even better when they reply with broken English. It's best when they're trying to correct me using broken English while missing the joke. Thank you, sincerely.
Re:If you don't have time to RTFA... (Score:5, Informative)
Divide the number of songs sold on iTunes by the number of iPods sold, and it works out to only something like 5 or 10 albums per iPod. Unless people are buying much much bigger players than they need for some reason, it looks like people are mostly putting things other than iTMS music on their iPods.
Re:Specialist Subject: the Bleeding Obvious (Score:5, Insightful)
Not so fast. Microsoft is already a step ahead of you with Secure Audio Path [microsoft.com]. Essentially, Windows Media DRM can require a digitally signed audio driver which accepts encrypted input. It simply won't talk to an "untrusted" driver (such as TotalRecorder).
That said, the Napster representative in TFA is incorrect about the type of exploit this is. The audio isn't being captured by a "rogue" sound driver (or an analog loopback, which is what she makes it sound like). It's being redirected to disk via a Winamp output plugin. Ordinarily, Winamp will refuse to write to a disk writer plugin given a DRM'd input file, but the Output Stacker plugin sends audio to *both* the DirectSound driver (the "primary" one, which is kosher for DRM'd audio and is the one Winamp sees), _and_ the secondary driver, which is a disk writer plugin.
The upshot is, if you want a means to remove encumbrances from legally acquired media, download Winamp and Output Stacker now before Nullsoft "fixes" this "exploit". But don't share anything you decrypt online, or you'll only vindicate the suits who press for DRM to prevent file sharing.
Re:Specialist Subject: the Bleeding Obvious (Score:3, Interesting)
(emphasis mine)
I love that they admit that SAP doesn't make it actually impossible for untrusted applications to get access to the unencrypted audio. Just virtually impossible. And of course it only takes one dedicated person to figure out how to weasel t
Re:OK, no problem... (Score:3, Informative)
There will be a loss of quality from the D/A->A/D->recompress process, but it might not be noticeable if you have a good sound card and you have the volume levels set appropriately so as to maximize the signal-to-noise ratio without clipping.
Don't think the RIAA doesn't have