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Irish Movie Theatres Go Digital 195

Draoi writes "ElectricNews is reporting that Irish movie theatres are to be the first in the world to switch from old 35mm media to a completely digital format. New movies are to be delivered via satellite which, I'm sure, will bring up security issues of its own."
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Irish Movie Theatres Go Digital

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  • dupey dupe (Score:5, Informative)

    by nmoog ( 701216 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:04AM (#12021615) Homepage Journal
    Looks dupey... [slashdot.org]
    What is this some kind of irish joke?
    • by nmoog ( 701216 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:10AM (#12021645) Homepage Journal
      As the smoke clears, several dead slashdotters lay motionless on the floor...

      "Well partner," mutters the handsome, yet dangerous looking nmoog "looks like I wins this here dupe-quick-draw."
      • by kubrick ( 27291 )
        Obviously I need to spend more of my hard-earned money on a faster internet connection. Well, any excuse will do, I guess...
    • At least its not the same editor.. then we'd really have a problem.

      Its not like we can expect the editors of the site to actually know what goes on here.. right?
    • by dbIII ( 701233 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:52AM (#12021812)
      What is this some kind of irish joke?
      No, this is.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      The only nerds in this world that don't read Slashdot are.... the Slashdot editors themselves!

      Ha, ha, ha, ha.

    • All this dupe talk makes me wonder if they'll have digital projectors in second run cinemas.

      If those projectors are too expensive for non-chain outfits, you could have a serious divide between the digital haves and the analog have-nots.
      • Well, given the quality or lack thereof of current digital projectors (I saw THX1138 on the newest equipment at Telluride, it failed during the movie and was harsh and sort of unpleasant compared to the clean 35mm prints being shown) second run theaters might become more popular with the people who actually care about picture quality.

        One of the things I am willing to pay for is exceptional image quality, the lushness and shadow detail of film. If it's just a digital projector, some DMD/DLP POS really no b
    • you know, I'm starting to think that this has to be some sort of troll conspiracy. People must have started noticing that the editors don't read the site, and INTENTIONALLY submit duplicate articles. It's unreal how often we see the same article again on here.
    • Re:dupey dupe (Score:3, Insightful)

      by lousyd ( 459028 )
      No, no, it's okay. It's when we start seeing Slashdot article announcing older Slashdot articles that we're really in trouble.
  • Dupe... (Score:1, Informative)

    by beh ( 4759 ) *
    We had that story three days ago: here... [slashdot.org]
    • The amount of dupes on this site is incredible. Not only did I read this story about a day before the original /. post on BoingBoing, now I get to read it again on /. Slow news day huh?
  • by davmoo ( 63521 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:08AM (#12021632)
    What would really be news is if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting.

    In addition, what would really be news is if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting.

    But then also, what would really be news is if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting.
    • Re:That's not news (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:09AM (#12021640)
      Don't you think it would be great if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting?
    • Oh man, you really made me laugh !
      lol
      But, seriously it would be news if Slashdot authors started reading their own website to see what their co-authors are posting
  • FPNAD (Score:5, Funny)

    by michaelhood ( 667393 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:09AM (#12021638)
    First Post Not About Dupe!

    Seriously guys, there's been 6 in a row. You're duping comments now.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:09AM (#12021639)
    The screen cursors are made up of pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, green clovers, blue diamonds, purple horseshoes and red balloons.
  • ...too mush leftover whishkey...*hic*
  • Thankfully (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Altima(BoB) ( 602987 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:12AM (#12021655)
    Thankfully our repeats are already totally digital.

    Anyhow, here's something I wanted to bring up in the other thread but as too lazy to do. It says that the new projectors download digital copies of the films from the movie industry. That's all well and good, but my favorite cinemas here in Dublin, the awesome IFI in Temple Bar and the huge megaplex UGC are both my favorites because they show independant and foreign films. In the case of the IFI, that's all they show, alongside older films that you won't see in the cinema anywhere else.

    So what I'm wondering is how would something like Battle of Algiers or OldBoy be shown in Ireland if it's all digital? I actually don't think the IFI is part of this whole all-digital scheme and I'm glad they're not, mainstream cinema holds only the smallest interest for me, and I can't help but see this digital system as anything other than the big studios further consolidating their culture monopoly...
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:18AM (#12021685)
      Hey, you're offtopic! This thread is reserved for complaining about dupes!
    • Good lord how I miss the UGC on Parnell St...

      Anyway, I'm sure that, while the larger screens will have digital projectors for the blockbuster releases etc, they'll maintain quite a few reel projectors in the smaller theatres for the arty stuff.

      With any luck this could be a feature in the future, prompting cinemas with reels to run "classic movie" weekends thanks to the competitive advantage of being able to play reels...
    • it'll be unlikely that such independent showing theatres would go ALL digital in the sense that they would throw away their film stuff.

      actually, I would view the articles about this as so that they're installed as an extra device to the theatre - ie. not replacing the film stuff 100%.

      however.. digital 'film' has some bonuses, cheapness to reproduce for one: having an every theatre launch is no longer going to be so expensive.
  • by youngerpants ( 255314 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:13AM (#12021659)
    But this is getting silly

    1) Check for DUPES
    2) If you link to a site, please include the coral link (this can be done programatically!)
    3) If you link to a file, add a torrent (this is for the submitters, not the editors)
    4) I have heard that joke before; lets see if anyone has something interesting to say

    Karma be dammed, but this dupe really pissed me off
    • by Anonymous Coward
      I would do all those things if I'd knew there's a big chance of my sotry getting posted. Instead I write a lengthy (hopefully well written) article and think hard how to summarize the whole story into a news article, just so 20 out of 21 stories get rejected. And then the same story is posted after some hours (or days) written like crap with pure FUD in the news article.

      I'm not trolling as I don't have anything to do with this site, but I try to post a story if I see one that I think would be interesting f
    • Check for dupes: this can also be done programatically.

      When I post an issue in Bugzilla.mozilla.org, the system gives me a list of potential duplicates.

      How can't that be done for slashdot?

      What about using google?

      http://www.google.com/search?q=Irish+cinema+dig i ta l+site%3Aslashdot.org

      It's that simple! (OK maybe that would not work for too recently published articles)

      Actually when you think of it, the hard part of an editor is to correctly select an article. Once you've selected one, spending 30 second
      • When I post an issue in Bugzilla.mozilla.org, the system gives me a list of potential duplicates. How can't that be done for slashdot? What about using google?

        Slashdot does have a search:
        e.g. http://slashdot.org/search.pl?query=irish [slashdot.org] finds it.

        Amazing that they've created the elaborate moderation system, throttling, "lameness filters", all to reduce the amount of crap comments; but they don't apply any of the same thought to their own articles, not even spellcheck.

      • When I post an issue in Bugzilla.mozilla.org, the system gives me a list of potential duplicates. How can't that be done for slashdot?

        Maybe the problem is in the time lag between acceptance of a story submission and the actual publication. I don't know the details of the editorial process, but I imagine that several different editors go through 300 submissions every day. These submissions are then given a priority (publish today or during the next week) and pipelined. If the dupe is sitting in the pipelin

        • The publication should maybe not be automated for the last step of the submission. One should be there to confirm that the story is not a dupe.

          But I guess that if they don't fix it, that means they don't care.

          As to be a subscriber, I would not pay to help them do their job. I'd rather pay for a small, clean and nice summary even if it's a day or two later. Like a step further after alterslash.
    • You shouldn't make fun of the dupes, the practice of linking directly to sites running on 286s instead of to caches of those sites, the poor writing quality, the bad sense of humor, or any other problems with Slashdot. After all, some people pay to see this shit before the rest of get it.

      Considering the allegations that Slashdot is frequently getting scooped by Fark, I can understand their desire to pay for the Slashdot version rather than wait entire minutes from the time it gets posted on Fark until t
    • Or... (Score:3, Informative)

      by Sanity ( 1431 ) *
      Instead of adding a torrent, just prepend "http://dijjer.org/get/" to the URL of the large file and hey-presto, it is now being distributed through Dijjer.
    • Check for DUPES

      What makes you think they haven't simply decided to do a dupe?
      Lots of people loaded a bunch of ads the last time. Maybe they'll do it again!
  • by Handpaper ( 566373 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:18AM (#12021684)
    which satellite.
    We'll take it from there.

    • heh heh
      that's pretty funny

      kinda reminds me of all the times that i've caught a torrent or nabbed a tv show off IRC only to have my friend tell me that the show airs tomorrow. I'll usually scratch my head and reply "but i watched it yesterday"

      I'm glad for the dupe, I missed this one the first time around.

  • It's the classic lack of communication between the no-snakes-and-no-film department and the and-they-don't-need-to-ship-their-single-malts department.
  • by zbuffered ( 125292 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:33AM (#12021739)
    First of all, about 60% of /. stories are 2-day-old posts on either Gizmodo, Engadget, Lifehacker, or Hack-A-Day. I doubt /. editors even realize this, because they obviously don't get "out" very much.

    But seriously. The dupes are out of control. It takes 10 minutes a day, max, to scan the headlines OF THE SITE YOUR JOB IT IS TO EDIT. Timothy obviously does not read this site. So WTF? Could we possibly get an editor that takes his job seriously?
    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • But isn't paying for a slashdot account supposed to give you the ability to do the jobs of the editors and stop dupes before they get up on the site?

      Oh wait, that was just a money making ploy to drum up cash w/o doing the work of reading their email. Sorry Mr. Malda, but you aren't running a good site anymore. Someday a new site that has quality will come by and squash slashdot.
    • First of all, about 60% of /. stories are 2-day-old posts on either Gizmodo, Engadget, Lifehacker, or Hack-A-Day. I doubt /. editors even realize this, because they obviously don't get "out" very much.

      Well, if you're only interested in the latest gadgets on the market, then maybe slashdot is not the right place for you.

      I don't care that much about the freshness of the news, especially not about gadgets. What I do care about is that the stories provoke interesting discussions. There is a reason that peop

    • "It takes 10 minutes a day, max, to scan the headlines OF THE SITE YOUR JOB IT IS TO EDIT. Timothy obviously does not read this site. So WTF? Could we possibly get an editor that takes his job seriously?"

      Here is why slashdot editors post dupes and how to fix it.

      Slashdot editors pick topics to post on the site from a vast pool of submissions. When recalling if a submissin has appeared on ./, they face the difficult task of distinquishing between submissions which they have previously read but whic

      • IMHO abuse about how stupid/lazy/drunken the slashdot editors is unfair and misdirected. They have a workflow problem.

        Well what else are we suppose to post about in duped threads?

        I appreciate your explanation and you're probably 100% correct. The issue is that /. is stagnant. If what you say is correct, the solution is to change the way /. works. It'd be easy. Will they do it? No. Because the site remains popular, they make zero changes. They don't update the HTML or implement CSS, they don't impl
        • "To be honest, I don't particularly like reading posts about stupid/lazy/drunken /. editors and so I was a hypocrite posting one myself, but I almost feel that it's a form of civil disobedience aimed at encouraging the owners to change /. for the better. It's either that or stop visiting, but +5 posts abusing /. editors in duped threads should get the point across a little more directly than dwindling readership."

          Point taken. I should not have implied that crticism is unwarranted. It would have been

      • ERM wtf no? ALl the Editor has to do is use that HANDY DANDY search box at the bottom of the page with a few main keywords from the story and scan the recent results. HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT!?
  • Wonderful (Score:3, Interesting)

    by KennyMillar ( 813395 ) * on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:39AM (#12021764) Homepage Journal
    Oh great. Here comes an era of pixelated movies, snatchy sound and 'soory this movie cannot be shwona t this time due to a technical problem'.
  • by interstellar_donkey ( 200782 ) <pathighgate&hotmail,com> on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @05:49AM (#12021802) Homepage Journal
    I was away on vacation three days ago and didn't read slashdot. I'm sorry, this was all my fault. The kind folks at Slashdot knew that this would be the kind of story I'd be interested in, so they decided to post it again for my benefit. I'm deeply sorry.

    I'm also sorry for Windows ME. That was my fault too.

    And the DMCA, that was all me.

    Oh, don't forget the war in Iraq. I pretty much caused that.

    And when I told that guy 14 years ago that it would be a keen idea to advertise his product by sending emails to everyone, regardless of they were interested, that was probably a bad idea too. I know it was a really bad idea to convince porn website opperators to say they were free, when they really weren't.

    In all seriousness, I'm glad to see a country going all digital. I was initially against digital in the theaters, until I saw a screening of Starwars Part One in Burbank back in '99.

    A few of the colors weren't right, and I noticed a few glitches, but generally I was impressed with it, and thought to myself "You know, this is going to be good when all film goes this way".

    Oddly enough, almost 6 years later we still don't have digital projectors in the vast majority of America's theaters, and we have to look to Ireland for adopting the more innovative technology.

    IRELAND!!!??? Now, I'm half Irish, but I'm pretty sure my ancestors fled Ireland because it was a smelly filthy drunken impoverished third world cesspool. How do they manage to get digital theaters while us Americans are still stuck with brand new mega-plexes popping up every time it rains still using the old analog 35mm projection?

    I should not that I'm writing this post completely under the influence of Irish beer, so you'll understand if I'm a little flippant and surly.
    • Re:Sorry, my fault (Score:2, Informative)

      by starmang ( 661689 )
      Ireland is not a third world country. In fact Ireland is one of the wealthiest in Europe. And if you RTFA you would see why Ireland has been chosen for this project.
    • IRELAND!!!??? Now, I'm half Irish, but I'm pretty sure my ancestors fled Ireland because it was a smelly filthy drunken impoverished third world cesspool.

      That was probably the 18th or 19th century. It's now the 21st century. Please keep up.

      On the other hand, it's possibly your dad emigrated from Limerick last week, in which case, you're right, my apologies.

      P.

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    • A few of the colors weren't right, and I noticed a few glitches...

      I believe I saw that very same screening (not the same day of course) and I'm curious to hear more about the colors you felt weren't right and what the glitches were. I thought the quality was astounding. The technical quality that is.

      The tonal range was incredible, titles and credits did not jump around and of course there were no scratches or dust marks. After seeing it I felt sure that theaters would be digitally projecting everythi

  • from the no-snakes-and-no-film-and-they-don't-need-to-ship- their-single-malts:

    Breaking news! Irish Cinemas goes all Digital! [theregister.co.uk]
  • Ohhhh so its classed as a NEW news story because its from enn.ie this time and not the BBC.
    Great job everyone!
  • I thought we already had a Digital Cinema here in Almere, Holland?! Jesse//
  • by Mad Hamster ( 870092 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @06:31AM (#12021927)
    I believe the Imperial cinema in Copenhagen started showing digital movies in the fall of 2004. The first movie shown this way was 'I, Robot'. Disclaimer: No plug here, just posting for the record.
  • i wonder if it's using the same technology as Satellite TVs where theaters each get a card and which decodes the satellite transmission. Since it's only a receiver, there's no way to detect who else might be using the same card to receive it. guess it's time to get some connections with Irish theaters and start learning Irish.
  • by Spooker ( 22094 ) * on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @06:49AM (#12021977)
    Yes, this probably isn't the correct forum for this but I subscribe to Slashdot and have been a faithful follower for too many years ... when I see a pre-release dupe I send an email to the on-call editor, sometimes it works to get the story banished before the rest of the world sees it (and the ridicule starts) ... sent an email about this story but it seems that it wasn't effective ... power to the peer review!
  • by CHESTER COPPERPOT ( 864371 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @06:59AM (#12022004)
    Hey, yeah - I wanna Dupe, baby

    [Oooo, how you doin', nerd?
    No, not you
    You, the Klingon-Speaking one, (ha-ha) yeah
    What's your name? Timothy?
    Damn, that sounds sexy]

    Here I go, here I go, here I go again (again?)
    Girls, what's my weakness? (Linux!)
    Ok then, chillin', chillin', mindin' my business (MSword)
    Yo, /., I looked around, and I couldn't believe this
    I swear, I stared, my *nix my witness
    The brother had it goin' on with somethin' kinda...uh
    Wicked, wicked (w00t) - had to kick it
    I'm not shy so I asked for the 1010101
    Original News? No, that don't interest me
    See what I want is to be paid to be actin' arrogantly.
    Felt it in my blue chips so I dipped back to my bag of tricks (old articles)
    Then I flipped for a tip, make me wanna do tricks for CmdrTaco
    Lick him like a lollipop should be licked
    Came to my senses and I chilled for a bit
    Don't know how you do the voodoo that you do
    So well it's a spell, hell, makes me wanna dupe dupe dupe

    Dupe shoop ba-doop
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  • by Anonymous Coward
    It's quite sad that the editors here don't even read their own site.
  • "First"? Oh please. (Score:4, Informative)

    by perlionex ( 703104 ) * <`moc.ylimafnag' `ta' `hpesoj'> on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @07:01AM (#12022014)
    Just because a company called "Digital Cinema Limited" had its first customer doesn't mean that customer is now the "first country in the world to have completely digital cinema."

    Previous comments above have noted that digital cinemas have existed in other countries since 2004. A local cinema in Singapore [ewcinemas.com.sg] reported that they were converting to digital cinemas [ewcinemas.com.sg] as early as 2003. I highly doubt they're the only ones, too.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      Actually, Ireland is the first country in the world to go with completely digital projection. There is a difference between a few cinemas upgrading, and ALL of them being upgraded.
  • "Kiss me oim Oirish, taar tee taar taar, tee tee tee tee"
    Leprechaun Watch Webcam [irelandseye.com]
  • I think that it is about time that we start trying to warn people of duplicate postings in software.

    Something Awful forums warn you if a specific URL, or similar URL was posted. It then shows you a link to the thread(s) that have the URLs in question posted. After that, if you decide to post, we still have the editors to try to weed out the rest. This solution won't help when someone links to the same issue/story reported by a different company (much harder with syndication also).

    The script/program would
  • by Goth Biker Babe ( 311502 ) on Wednesday March 23, 2005 @07:35AM (#12022132) Homepage Journal
    ...pointless.

    Current resolutions for digital cinema are not as good as good HD TV. You should never underestimate the resolution of 35mm film.
    • Agreed. Even 16mm film has a better resolution than HD TV. HDTV, 1080 horizontal lines interlaced. 16mm, 2000 horizontal lines. 35mm, 4000+ horizontal lines.

      Unless they are projecting the film scanned at 4K resolution in cineon format, which is 10 MB PER FRAME, it will never be as good looking.

      Digital projectors do however, have some nice advantages. Film sometimes jitters in the gate of the projector, and it's noticable in most theatres. It's unavoidable. A digital projectior has no film, no gate, and
  • I just counted them in the morning paper. Thats about 2/3rd the total. We've pretty much already done what the Irish are proposing.
  • Digital, at least in its current form is a step backwards. Digital images are not as near as nice as 35mm film.

    I stopped going to my local cinema when they 'upgraded' to digital as the pixellation/resolution is so bad it ruins the big screen experience.

  • I wonder whether this technology will benefit independent moviemakers. On one hand, it is far cheaper to make a copy of a digital movie than 35mm film, and simpler to distribute, so that independent movie theatres can get hold of copies more easily. On the other hand, I fear that the satellite distribution system might be controlled by the media giants who aren't interested in small moviemakers using their system, charging high fees.

    What do you think?
  • New movies are to be delivered via satellite which, I'm sure, will bring up security issues of its own.

    Not unless you consider improved security an issue. The need to distribute film canisters has always been a big security hole. In the pre-DVD era, that was where most pirate prints came from -- projectionists "borrowing" the official print between shows. A satellite feed can be encrypted so that not even projectionists can access it between shows. Perhaps somebody will find a hole in the encryption -- bu

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