Seeking a Good eBook Reading Device? 79
Quimbly asks: "I'm an avid reader, and I find that downloading books is much more convenient that trying to get them from the bookstore or library. However, I'm tired of sitting in front of a monitor to do my reading. I'm looking for a hand-held device to do my reading on, and I'm hoping the community has some suggestions.
It seems to me that most PDAs have too small of a screen for convenient reading, and a notebook / tablet computer is too big and bulky for this simple task. So, I've been looking at a few devices designed specifically for eBook reading (e.g. the RCA REB1100, the eBookwise-1150, etc.). These look more promising, but I was disappointed to discover that the RCA device ONLY reads an encrypted, propriety eBook format, making it essentially useless. (Has anyone ever hacked one of these?) Similarly, I believe both of these devices have been discontinued by their manufacturers. I want a device that can read a variety of file formats, especially scanned, non-text PDFs. A large screen, long battery life, and good interface are other attributes I'm looking for."
PSP? (Score:5, Interesting)
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If you're willing to scroll around on the page, then it doesn't matter so much -- but frankly, for reading, scrolling a window around on the page really sucks. That's why you want a high-res but low color (to make the cost palatable) display, with a form factor that approximates a normal book page. I think the real problem with the PSP's screen (besides the resolution bei
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Novels don't use columns, for instance. On A4-size paper, the optimal column width is about 2/3 to 3/4 of the page width.
Newspaper columns are narrow because they're optimized for flexibility in placing multiple articles and ads on one page.
Re:PSP? (Score:1)
From what I understand, line width and line spacing go hand in hand: once you arrive at the end of a line, the eye has to travel back to the left and correctly guess the next line. The wider the lines, the more spacing you need to correctly guess the next line.
Re:PSP? (Score:1)
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=246&prod ucts_id=3983& [lik-sang.com]
http://movieadvance.com/ [movieadvance.com]
The GBA movie player reads ebooks.
I don't know how nice it is for those, if you point me to a little ebook sample, I can try it out and give my 2 cents.
You need rbmake (Score:5, Informative)
Re:You need rbmake (Score:1)
let's hear it for open source devs
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print it out (Score:5, Insightful)
Print that sucker out. Our campus labs use Word which does two things I've never figured out how to replace on Linux:
1) Text editing on linux (as far as I can tell) only does things line by line. In Word I can treat the whole document as one big string which makes converting a Project Gutenburg text to a sensibly formatted document involve 3 find&replace commands. (newline to |, || to newline, | to space)
2) Book fold printing. I put the text at a <8pt font (i can read at 4pt), give it 0.2" margins, and set the page as a book fold of 12 pages. It prints out double sided and I simple fold every three pages together to create a physical book. The latest Harry Potter [tinyurl.com] book cost me 35 pages which folded down into a neat little booklet I can fit in my interior coat pocket.
Re:print it out (Score:5, Informative)
There's lots of text editing programs for Linux, with a wide variety of features, and I'm sure some can do the find and replace commands you mention. You can do it from the command-line too; here's what I'd do:
That'll format the book with one line per paragraph. If you do this a lot, you can put all of that into a script instead, so you just have to remember the name of the script instead of the whole command
In file named process_book:
To process a book:
By the way, notice that I used \x01 instead of |, since | characters might appear in the book.
Re:print it out (Score:2)
Thanks a million!
Re:print it out (Score:1)
Oops. The one-liner should have been:
Re:print it out (Score:2)
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I've used it for long walkthroughs for RPGs; most recently, FFX-2 100% completion. That squeezed a 120+ page document, printed naively, down to four sheets of paper (with a bit of manual editing to remove silly whitespac
Re:print it out (Score:2)
media (A4, letter etc) is selected with the -M option.
As for page layout, there are some numeric "macro" style options (-1
Some other useful options:
--sides=duplex or -s2 (assuming your printer can print both sides)
-=book (reorganizes the pages for folding and stapling like a book)
The outp
Re:print it out (Score:2)
Re:print it out --Openoffice-- (Score:1)
Sharp Zaurus SL-5600 (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Sharp Zaurus SL-5600 (Score:2)
Seconded. Not so good for PDF (although a PDF reader is available for the Zaurus), but great for Plucker. For plucker or raw HTML or Palm
Re:Sharp Zaurus SL-5600 (Score:2, Informative)
My 860 replaced my MP3 player, my Palm Pilot, my laptop, and all the books I used to carry around. It even functions as a great video player.
The VGA Zaurii (SL-Cxx0) make great e-book readers. They work equally well in either landscape or portrait mode (the screen swivels like one of the convertible "tablet Pcs") You've got a
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I have a lowly MI-E1, but I've been very impressed with the quality of the screen. It's definitely great for reading books.
Could you recommend a dictionary reader for the Linux-based Zaurii? I've thought about upgrading some day, but I love ZPDView's ability to read EDICT dictionaries.
Re:Sharp Zaurus SL-5600 (Score:1)
Check out the forums at www.oesf.org.
Re:Sharp Zaurus SL-5600 (Score:2)
Exactly!
At the beginning of the school year, the school where I teach passed out a Tungsten E to each teacher and advanced math student. Since then I've read dozens of books on it and I love it. I adjust the scroll to my reading rate, hold it 12-15 inches in front of me and _just read_. No pages to turn, no light to annoy my wife; I get into the book better than if it were hard copy.
I do most of my downloading from manybooks.net. They take Project Gutenberg b
Palm Tungsten / Windows CE / Franklin EBookman (Score:3, Informative)
I've read e-books on handhelds for years; they are especially good with small babies -- you can walk up and down in the living room for hours, holding the baby in one arm and the handheld in the other. All of them have backlights so that you can read in the dark. Get aquainted with Project Gutenberg -- I can recommend "Mr. Midshipman Easy" as a very fun book.
The Palm Tungsten E is very, very nice: a sharp, good resolution screen, very fast, and decent controls for reading. You can also get the very exc
e-ink! (Score:5, Interesting)
I know Philips (One of the main minds behind it) isn't ready to mass produce because they want to increase the switching speed (from black to white and inbetween) aswell as adding color.
However I've seen them work, at let me tell you, it's sweet technology. It reads very comfterably.
Reexamine notebooks and tablet PCs. (Score:2, Interesting)
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I don't think they sell this model anymore, but I've seen a number of other good ones.
iPAQ (Score:4, Informative)
At first I did not like the small screen relatively low res. screen; however, after using it for a while I got used to it and prefer it for a couple of reasons.
1. The small screen, means there are fewer words per page. The smaller word count helps me read faster, because I am not getting lost or distracted.
2. Backlight for low-light conditions. Its nice to read at night with out having a light on in the room. I think it is easier on my eyes when I get tired.
3. one hand operation. It is a lot easier to turn pages one-handed on an PDA. I can generally be more comfortable, and have good posture longer when reading off a PDA than with a book.
-MS2k
Re:iPAQ (Score:2, Funny)
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Even my wife loves it since I can turn off the bedroom light and still read without disturbing her.
It reads plain text, HTML, many ebook formats, word, pdf, and I can even use m
Re:iPAQ (Score:2)
Boy, I whole-heartedly agree with this one. Not only is this a lot easier to hold, but with AvantGo or wireless connectivity, you can also get news on it. I can't speak for anybody else, but I enjoy laying down and reading both news as well as fiction.
I also wanted to mention bookmarking. MS's reader program does a ni
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HiEbook (Score:3, Informative)
If you can still get your hands on one, the HiEbook (by some Korean manufacturer) is fairly decent device. I've been using mine for 10 months now, and my friend and his wife have theirs for at least twice as long. It's mainly designed just for reading ebooks, and is about A6 in size.
It can use html, doc (if you have MS Word to autoconvert) and its own format. Upload via small USB cable with (windows only) software; or via a card reader if you get a SmartMedia card for it (only up to 128MB though).
It also has some minimal PDA functions, although the CPU is underpowered, and the touch screen a little insensitive. It can, however, play mp3s through the headphone port; and has an inbuilt microphone for voice recording (can't vouch for the quality, never used it).
It comes with a few apps such as text/draw memo (no graphiti input), calendar, address, schedule; and 4 games: othello, omok, sokoban and puzzle. There is a version of minesweeper [sourceforge.net] available, and my friend is wrighting Taipei for it.
It also has a decent backlight (which unfortunately has a soft whine, so there are contraindications for using it in a quiet room), and a nice pleather holder with wrist strap; and if you do get one, use the strap, as the screen can crack if you drop it from a metre or so.
Pros:
Cons:
Overall, although the design is a few years old now, it's the best ebook reader I've managed to find that doesn't have bad DRM. (I really wanted the sony LibrIe when I read about it, mmm e-ink, but the DRM was horrible so I didn't bother spending all that money.)
HiEbook link (Score:2)
Lazy - I mean how differcult was it to post a link ?
Me too (Score:3, Informative)
I got the chance to check out the Sony Librie last year in Japan and was hugely impressed with its screen, using that new e-ink jazz. I checked it out again a couple days ago and read some reviews; unfortunately its still not available outside Japan, which is a pain (worked out around US$250 I think to import one).
I've only ever seen one displaying Japanese books, so have no idea if it can even display romanji, or what it would look like. They take Sony Memory Sticks, which is a bit annoying (but to be expected), and apparently the ebooks are all in some annoying DRM format as well (but clever people have already figured out how to make software [mobileread.com] to convert to the format, so if you're lucky enough to have a non-DRM'ed library you can just convert your
The only other alternatives that I've found (haven't looked too hard as my iPaq is bearable at the moment) are dedicated ebook readers which have their own pitfalls (quite expensive considering that's all they do, use their own proprietary DRM formats, not able to read other common formats, etc) and more advanced iPaq-type devices (some of the newer iPaqs have high-resolution screens, plus the ability to use MS Reader in landscape mode, which I would definitely prefer), but I', not prepared to part with the $$$ at this point.
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Priorities (Score:3)
Sounds to me that reading in front of a monitor is 10 times the hassle of heading to the library and picking up a book or two. You've got to worry about power, portability, selection, price. In other words, you're lying when you say that downloading books is more convenient or else you wouldn't be asking how to make it more convenient.
Re:Priorities (Score:4, Insightful)
Punt on dedicated e-book readers--use a Pocket PC (Score:3, Insightful)
If you want to use Tome Reader or Adobe Acrobat Reader you can download the SVGA hack that forces the entire system into VGA mode (normally it's in QVGA which is pixel-quadrupled mode). I suspect at least Adobe will have a VGA-compatible reader soon. I know that AvantGo will not.
Total cost will be way cheaper than any dedicated e-book reader and you have the choice of Tome Reader, MS Reader, Adobe Acrobat Reader, HTML browser, eDoc, MS Word, and any other format you can think of.
You might also consider a PalmOS PDA, but in order to get on that is fast enough and has high enough resolution you will be way beyond the cost of a perfectly suited Pocket PC.
Re:Punt on dedicated e-book readers--use a Pocket (Score:1)
Gowerpoint. [wwwgowerpoint.com]
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Kris
What I want is a wireless VNC touchpad (Score:2)
Instead of an inbuilt just have two PS2 ports for a standard PC keyboard and mouse. For display sizes, 600x800 would be good, 768x1024 would be great.
In fact these devic
Re:What I want is a wireless VNC touchpad (Score:2, Informative)
The airsync [viewsonic.com], although it uses remote desktop not VNC.
Also, at around $1300 USD, it ain't cheap!
REB 1100 (Score:2)
the software that comes with the eBook reader points you to some software that is listed as not working with the REB1100 for making
Re:REB 1100 (Score:2)
An ideal device, IMO (Score:2)
I'd like a reader that could also double as a comicbook viewer. There's a substantial amount of CBR/CBZ files floating around, so it would be interesting to find a device, maybe magazine-sized, that had a colour display & support for various ebook formats. A Tablet PC, while close, is still a little too bulky for lying on the couch and reading.
What I'm looking for, ideally, is device with a portrait-oriented (taller than it is wide) screen, supporting at least 600x800 24-bit resolution.
I'm not an en
Personally (Score:2)
But For my ebooks I use the Palm Tungsten E with iSiloWeb (don't get X it's bloated crapware).
Handles html and pdf just fine. For downloading books try irc.nullus.net #bookwarez
Dedicated to e-Books (Score:2, Insightful)
Nothing beats paper (Score:1)
I've looked for the same device for two years now and my conclusion is that nothing beats a laser printer and a big pile of A4 sheets.
Laptop - A desktop replacement is out of question, a portable one (Centrino) is way too big and an ultraportable one is amazingly expensive and still too big. Plus, you can't use a notbook in places where you wan't to just chill and read something because you will look like a moron and you will be forced to stay in the classic desktop position.
Tablet PC - Nice ideea, n
check out the Sony Librie (Score:1)
It's available from some of the more popular grey-market importers from Japan.
Re:check out the Sony Librie (Score:2)
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1749479,00.a
treo (Score:3, Informative)
Anyway, I've done so much reading with the treo (wherever I find myself waiting I can read) and gotten used to - the convenience of not turning pages - having my place saved automatically in multiple books - having a backlight so that ambient lighting is irrelevant - having all the books I've read on the device present for reference and electronic searches - etc. - that I have a hard time picking up a paper book now.
Second-hand Palm or Handspring (Score:2, Informative)
For e-book reading software, try:
http://www.plkr.org/ [plkr.org]
Homebrew ebook readers? (Score:2, Offtopic)
I'm not in any way knowledgeable in electronics, so I'm not asking about a how-to for myself. I am wondering if anyone has tried it. An LCD screen, a circuit board, a Linux-based OS, a simple means of moving ebooks in and out of the device. It doesn't have to be very complex or expensive. Color isn't necessary. If a builder wanted to be cute, build an ebook into a bound
Re:Homebrew ebook readers? (Score:2)
I'm not in any way knowledgeable in electronics, so I'm not asking about a how-to for myself. I am wondering if anyone has tried it. An LCD screen, a circuit board, a Linux-based OS, a simple means of moving ebooks in and out of the device. It doesn't have to be very complex or expensive. Color isn't necessary. If a builder wanted to be cute, build an ebook into a bound
Cheap Solution (Score:3, Interesting)
My requirements:
- cheap
- mulitple formats: txt, pdf, doc, isilo, mobi, etc;
- color screen bigger than most palms, smaller than laptop
My Solution:
- used NEC MobilePro 780 off ebay running WinCE: about $99 from a reputable seller;
So far I am happy; Using serial instead of USB kinda sucks, but for the price, I am pleased. I am about to get a wireless card for it and connect it to my home network.
Worked out great for me but do you own homework first
The Everlasting Newton (Score:4, Interesting)
REB1100 and ebookwise-1150 (Score:4, Informative)
Now, the ebookwise-1150 has a number of advantages over the REB1100. The battery life isn't quite as good, but it makes up for it in features. The interface is a little nicer, and the book won't lose your place if you keep reading past the "warning, battery low" message. There are other small things I like about it. Overall, I would highly recommend the ebookwise-1150. It contains all the good of the REB1100 and adds a polished interface and upgradeable firmware (this is VERY important).
Now, you can hook it up to your computer with a USB coord and, without even having to register your ebookwise, load books onto it with the "GEB eBook Librarian" (http://www.breeno.org/eBook/ [breeno.org]). Otherwise known as "ebookwise librarian", this little piece of software can convert many different formats into the ebookwise ".imp" format: txt,html,rtf,doc,etc (including those documents that contain images and hyperlinks). It also becomes the "online bookshelf" you log into from your ebookwise device, from which you will download the books themselves. There is a $15 registration fee but it is well worth it. There's also a shareware/demo version so you can try it out free. Note that unless you have a smartmedia card for your ebookwise, you won't be able to use it in Linux. This is a very small price to pay, imo.
Any more questions, send me an email.
- Eugene
Pocket PC PDAs (Score:2, Informative)
My criteria for a PDA was cost more than anything, so I will share the problems with going for the low price as opposed to usability. I shopped Ebay for my PDA and bid on many units before I got the one that I wanted at the price that I wanted. $100 was my limit and I met that with enough to spare to upgrade my unit.
I ended up purchasing
Tungsten T|3 does all you want... (Score:3, Informative)
Psion PDA (Score:1)
Franklin's eBookman (Score:1)