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Lucas Confirms Star Wars spin-off TV series 447

Mictian writes "In a rare public appearance at the Star Wars Celebration III (his previous fan event appearance was in 1987), George Lucas confirmed that he's working on two TV series. One will be a full 3D animation series (with 30-minute episodes) of the recent Cartoon Network Clone Wars shorts, and the other a live-action series, that will be set in the time between Episodes III and IV, but won't feature the main characters. Production is expected to begin in about a year."
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Lucas Confirms Star Wars spin-off TV series

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  • first groan (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:15PM (#12340854)
    • Re:first groan (Score:4, Insightful)

      by stretch0611 ( 603238 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:03PM (#12341451) Journal
      You may have the first groan, but it definately will not be the last.

      And don't forget, while everone here is groaning at hearing there childhood classics being flushed, Lucas is bringing another huge wad of money to the bank.

    • by flyingsquid ( 813711 ) on Tuesday April 26, 2005 @12:55AM (#12345011)
      "I felt a great disturbance in the if a million voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."
    • They can blend old Sit Coms with StarWars characters.. Imagine Jar-Jar as J.J. on Good Times. "Meezah Kid-Dy-no-myte!" Or cast Yoda as Gary Coleman's character on Different Stokes. "What-you-talkin' 'bout Vader?" Heck, even Chewie could play the role of Archie Bunker on a spin off of All in the Family.."Rahhhh! Rahhhhhhhh!"... Well, that last one will need work.. You get the picture.
  • Final Movies (Score:5, Insightful)

    by wed128 ( 722152 ) <.woodrowdouglass. .at.> on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:15PM (#12340864)
    Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?
    • Who says he won't? He does, but then the cash cow will slow its moo'ing for him again in another five, ten years and he'll just build the rest of them.

      I wouldn't mind if he'd let Spielberg direct one. Or them all. Or just remake the entire set from scratch as actually GREAT movies.
    • OMFG (Score:5, Funny)

      by gosand ( 234100 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:27PM (#12341038)
      Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?

      I have never heard anyone wish that Lucas would make *more* Star Wars movies.

      • Re:OMFG (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Chyeld ( 713439 )
        Since Episode I atleast, I remember everyone I knew whining about how he really should do the full nine movies back when we only had III-V. I guess it's one of those 'beware of what you wish for' deals.
      • Re:OMFG (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Drathos ( 1092 )
        Sure you have...

        Just not since Episode I came out..
    • Re:Final Movies (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Minute Work ( 749085 ) <[ipirate] [at] []> on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:48PM (#12341298)
      It's because the Star Wars universe consists of more than just the movies. After the original trilogy many novels have been written about what happens to the characters after "Return of the Jedi." All of the plotlines in these novels are approved by George Lucuas himself. Therefore, if he were to create sequels, they would either A) make the novels no longer relevant since he's making movies that don't reflect those stories, or B) He would just be making the novels into movies. (Timothy Zhan's sp?) Admiral Thrawn series would be excellent.

      While all of these novels were being created, Lucas publication arm would not allow any to be made Pre "A New Hope" because he always intended to make movies out of the back-story. Therefore the new movies haven't bungled up the universe or plotlines (at least not much). In fact the only books I recall that centered around pre-episode 4 content was the Han Solo trilogy that is a pretty good set of books that tells Han Solo's back story from about age 17 to right about the time he walks into the cantina in episode 4.

      I hope this helps.
    • by cayenne8 ( 626475 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:00PM (#12341430) Homepage Journal
      " Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?"

      Are you kidding? Have you seen how badly Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill have AGED. I definitely don't want to see her in that gold bikini again....not as grandma Leia....


      I'd think they later movies would have to have the original actors in them to some extent...but, man, they'd have to spend a lot of $$'s on makeup for those two...Harrison Ford could probably still be on film and look ok..but, whew..those other two...

      • Are you kidding? Have you seen how badly Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill have AGED. I definitely don't want to see her in that gold bikini again....not as grandma Leia....
        Don't worry, Jennifer Aniston will be happy to do it. I'm sure her acting and genuine interest in the sci-fi genre will be comparable with Fisher's, too ;)
    • Re:Final Movies (Score:4, Informative)

      by EverDense ( 575518 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:17PM (#12341658) Homepage
      Rather than all this peripheral shit, why doesn't he crank out the last three movies?

      He promised in a recent interview on Sixty Minutes, that there will be no more movies after Episode 3.
      Whether he will keep that promise is anyone's guess.
    • Re:Final Movies (Score:5, Informative)

      by RagingR2 ( 878908 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @07:10PM (#12342305)
      As far as I know, there are no parts 7,8 and 9 to be filmed. :) Indeed there are such rumours, but that's a common mistake. Lucas originally thought he'd need 9 films to tell the story, but already before he finished filming all 3 of the original movies, he concluded that 6 would be enough. Some form of draft was made for 7, 8 and 9, but they date back from before 5 and 6 were filmed and have now become obsolete. Some of the things were already used in the plots for part 4, 5 and 6, and some of the events described in there have become overruled by what happens in 4, 5 and 6. Think of the original drafts as being a short paragraph each; just a brainstorm for some important events. Oh, sure if you do a Google for those scripts you'll find a lot of stuff. But don't let yourself be fooled, that's all fan fiction or wishful thinking. See also these pages: ne.htm [] veals_original_plans_for_episodes_19_80270.asp [] Conclusion: even if Lucas *wanted* to make parts 7, 8 and 9, he'd have to go back to the writing table and work out all new stories. He used the best parts from the original drafts to write the scripts for part 5 and 6, and what he didn't use was appearantly rubbish, or has become obsolete and unusable in any case.
  • A Star Wars series will prove that Lucas' franchise is indeed the most powerful force in the universe...
  • Kevin Smith (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:16PM (#12340873)
    If I remember the previous round of rumors correctly, wasn't Kevin Smith fingered as a writer for the SW TV seriers?
  • just will have to check them out when they are aired. Great news just after I watched the intro to Revelations [].
  • by qubex ( 206736 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:16PM (#12340884) Homepage
    First they spoil the Trilogy with the awful Prequels, and now they're considering a lurid TV series and animated cartoons?!

    They've ruined the Star Wars of my youth. Why can't they just leave well alone?
  • by m93 ( 684512 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:16PM (#12340887)
    Star Wars episode 3.5......the search for more money.
  • perfect way out (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TrippTDF ( 513419 ) <> on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:17PM (#12340898) when we have all these unanswered questions from Ep 3, Lucas can just say "it will be answered in teh series" and then he can let someone else worry about it.
    • Let someone else worry about it? Lucas stays involved in everything Star Wars; you'll notice that until recently he didn't even allow Star Wars gambling machines because he figured it would be immoral to lure people to gambling just because they're Star Wars fans (although now he has decided that the fans have grown up, ergo Star Wars slots). But I went off on a tangent; Lucas doesn't just let other people run off and do things. Rest assured he'll be working on these TV thingies as much as the Prequels.
  • awesome (Score:3, Funny)

    by lazuli42 ( 219080 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:17PM (#12340907) Homepage Journal
    Oh christ, this'll be good.

    Goofing on Star Wars is like the /. knock-knock joke
    • No, here's the /. knock-knock joke:

      Knock knock
      Who's there?
      In Korea, only old people knock.
      In Soviet Russia, door Knocks you!
      • let me try that again (damn slash and its lack of editing)

        knock knock
        who's there?
        in soviet russia, door knocks you!
        microsoft sucks and natalie portman who?

        ok, that covers more /. cultural ground
  • by CrazyTalk ( 662055 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:18PM (#12340913)
    Someone had to say it.
  • by Ucklak ( 755284 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:18PM (#12340914)
    He just works.
  • by PhatboySlim ( 862704 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:18PM (#12340919)
    Star wars fans, confused and bewildered, have begun huddling around random television sets not sure where they are supposed to be in line at to eagerly anticipate the new t.v. show.
  • ...hasn't been paying attention to what's happened to Star Trek through all its iterations.

    Can't he develop an interest in anything else? It's a huge, wide world out there, and he has the money to do anything he wants. And he's still flogging this dead, dusty horse?
  • by spamchang ( 302052 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:19PM (#12340935) Journal
    several dead tauntauns were found in the desert of tatooine, having been beaten to a pulp after dying of starvation.

    (does it translate? :p)
  • And directing both series' will be acclaimed hollywood director "Ben Dover."
  • So what are they going to call the new Star Wars TV Show? Star Trek? Star Wars 3 1/2? Star Wars: Battlegrounds? Star Wars: Rebelion? Battle Star Wars? Or What?
  • by Tackhead ( 54550 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:20PM (#12340944)
    > and the other a live-action series, that will be set in the time between Episodes III and IV, but won't feature the main characters [ emphasis added].

    I just had a nightmare vision of FRAPS [] video captures from within Star Wars Galaxies being re-enacted by a bunch of LARPers.

    I mean, it'd definitely fit within the Star Wars Canon:

    This is not the Holiday Special [] you were looking for.
    I've got a bad feeling about this.
    It's worse.
    It's a LARP!

  • This same info is in the most recent edition of Wired. :p
  • suck less then other TV shows.
  • "...but won't feature the main characters."

    This will be tough thing to avoid. I've ready quite a few Star Wars novels in my day and all of them have noteable characters from the movies sprinkled throughout the plotlines. I could see how they might avoid using main characters if they set the television series Pre-episode I or pretty far past episode 6 (post new jedi order?) but for the series to take place between episodes 3 and 4 would require a few staple characters to make regular apperances in order for the audience to become grounded.

    I recently watched that amateur Star Wars fan film "Revelations" and without an appearence by Darth Vader, it wouldn't have seemed like Star Wars. The sets and sabers alone just don't draw me in like the cast of characters that everyone is familiar with.

    Here's hoping that is an overstatement and we'll see a few familiar faces in the series.
  • The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network was awesome. That's what I want in a cartoon and it's what I want in Star Wars. Shitpan Star Wars all you want, I want Genndy Tartakovsky to make more!

    And considering Lucas is not specifically directing the cartoons, I figure the mouth frothing Star Wars critics would actually enjoy them :)
  • by rjelks ( 635588 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:22PM (#12340974) Homepage
    When I started the article, I was kind of hoping it would be based off this spoof. [] Ewoks are still funny.
  • by ErikTheRed ( 162431 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:23PM (#12340987) Homepage
    that I don't give a rusty fuck what George Lucas says, does, produces, or otherwise shits out onto the screen.

    C'mon people. He's not been behind a great movie since "Empire", and notice that he didn't write the screenplay for or direct that one. Yes, he made a few classics. He founded what is still perhaps the world's best FX shop (ILM). He got thousands of theaters to upgrade to a better viewing / listening environment with the THX certification program. However, he's crashed and burned badly since. Why keep giving him so much attention?
  • Not exactly true (Score:5, Interesting)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) * on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:24PM (#12340995)
    As Lucas (and the article) said, it's not exactly true that no main characters are going to be in the TV series (I think his exact words were "Well, that's not strictly true now that I think about it"). He didn't clarify what that meant though.

    Also possible in the future is either a new Willow movie or TV series, and another thing for sure is an update of the decrepit Star Tours ride at DisneyWorld (in Janurary next year).
  • Without Star Trek for a while we were in need of a 800 lb gorilla fucking up sci-fi, nice to see Lucas stepping up to the plate.

    In all seriousness though, what I've seen of the Clone Wars shorts looks awesome, though I'm sure that's more due to Genndy (and lack of serious plot perhaps), and a series not dealing with the movies has promise...but seriously. Is there any way that this doesn't get fucked up beyond belief?
    • Re:Excellent News (Score:5, Interesting)

      by JahToasted ( 517101 ) <toastafari&yahoo,com> on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:40PM (#12341192) Homepage
      Well if it doesn't show "Written and Driected by George Lucas" at the end of the show it could be good. ie Lucas lets other people write and direct.

      You know how many people love the star wars movies when they were kids and are now experienced Actors/Directors/Writers? Lucas had Speilberg and Samuel L Jackson begging to be a part of star wars. Imagine handing over starwars to the best creative teams out there and just letting them go.

      It could be very awesome if Lucas can just put his ego aside and let someone else give it a shot. Nothing against Lucas the man's a genious at coming up with ideas, and doing special effects, but he can't write dialog or direct actors worth shit.

      If Lucas comes up with the general ideas, and does the special effects, and gets the best and the brightest to take over writing and directing, it could work very well.

  • Timothy Zahn, a great author IMHO, made quite possibly the best starwar books ever.

    Three books, very well made, and intresting. Why not make a cartoon (or movies) based off of them, instead of spewing this crap?

    The author will be happy (royalties, yay!), George will be happy (He won't have to pull bad ideas out of the air), and I'll be happy (which is the most important).

    Here's a link to some short descriptions of the books: .htm/ []
  • by lecithin ( 745575 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:25PM (#12341016)
    I quote from me: 19 78190

    "You might have thought that it was going to all be over on May 15 with the release of Episode III: Revenge of the Sith."

    I don't know anybody that is foolish enough to believe that this was over. As long as there is an interest and the opportunity to make some money, it isn't going to be over. Many folks thought that Star Wars would end in the 70s. It is still around decades later and still making a profit. You don't get rid of a profitable interest.

    If the entertainment factor is there, I'll go see more. Will the market of 'Star Wars Enthusiasts' allow more movies to be made? Will we see different plots in the future? Will we see more 'enhanced' versions? I'd think probably. They may suck, but I would bet that we are not done with 'Star Wars' for quite a while. I hope that what comes out is good.

    When are we going to get sick of it?
  • What's the hoopla? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by guitaristx ( 791223 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:25PM (#12341019) Journal
    Why do I so often hear tons of noise about the Star Wars story beyond XI? It was my understanding that the story was about Anakin Skywalker - his origins, growth, corruption, and, finally, redemption. What more is to be told?
    • by Iphtashu Fitz ( 263795 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:38PM (#12341169)
      Back in the early days of ANH, before it was renamed as episode 4, I heard stories that the entire saga was meant to be 3 trilogies. The first trilogy focused on the boy who would become Vader, the second 3 focused on his downfall, and the last 3 focused on the rebuilding of the republic and the final defeat of the Empire. I also recall being told that the only characters who would exist in all 9 episodes would be R2D2 and C3PO. I have no idea if this is based on fact or not but there is a synopsis of episodes 7-9 [] supposedly written by Lucas himself.
      • There's no way those synopses of Episodes 7-9 are the work of George Lucas. Aside from his many recent denials that he's ever going to make those movies, the stories read like lame Star Wars novels. Whoever wrote them just threw in elements of Timothy Zahn's trilogy and the books about the Death Star superlaser and the Sun Crusher and made up some more nonsense. GL should be upset that his name is even on the same page as that crap.
      • by perrin ( 891 )
        Wrong, wrong, wrong. The supershadow site and everything on it is totally FAKE. It has NOTHING to do with George Lucas. Everything on it, including its so-called "interviews" with George Lucas are made up. Google around for a lot more info on this.

        I'm not usually a big fan of copyright lawsuits, but I hope George Lucas' lawyers nail this guy. He is spreading so much misinformation and outright lies about Starwars it is disgusting.
  • This might be good (Score:3, Interesting)

    by lawpoop ( 604919 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:26PM (#12341030) Homepage Journal
    I think for the live-action TV series, this might be good. I would like to see the everyday life of people who live under the empire, with pirates and gangsters and all the other stuff that make up a regular world. As long as they stay away from the force and "save the universe" level plots, it should be interesting.
  • Hey... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by robyannetta ( 820243 )
    As long as Lucas has nothing to do with either series (with the exception of licensing the name), they might be worth something. Just get Kevin Smith to direct.
  • timeline (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Gogo0 ( 877020 )
    Between episodes III and IV means: No jedi. So what the hell will it be? Without jedi, Star Wars is just Another Show Set in Outer Space. Will there be a convenient pocket of jedi "out there somewhere" that arent killed?
  • The first, "Clone Wars," actually exists as series of animated shorts on the Cartoon Network, but Lucas said it will be turned into a "3-D animated version full-series" 30 minutes in length.

    Didn't they try this along with Smell-o-vision? Will I have to go out and purchase Star Wars Approved 3D Glasses?

    And Will I actually believe the wookie is going to rip MY arm off?

    Then again...maybe they just mean that he is going to ruin a perfectly good cartoon with CG.
  • Hmm... I wonder how many TV spin-offs Star Wars will generate before the last blood gets sucked out of the franchise and even die-hard fans throw in the towel.

    Sure, it seems impossible, but look at what happend to Star Trek. For years Trek fans were livin' large, with several shows to choose from, but now it's all going out with a whimper.

    Hopefully Lucas will learn something from the Trek saga, and he won't try to keep a deathgrip on the creative process in the Star Wars TV shows. If fresh talent is able to come in and mess around a bit with the tried-and-true formula, Star Wars could thrive on TV. If they stick to what they've done before, it's a doomed venture.

  • Sheesh... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Gothic_Walrus ( 692125 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:30PM (#12341088) Journal
    Why all the negativity?

    We've got no idea at all what a Star Wars TV series will be like. Clone Wars doesn't count; the shorts are constructed completely differently than a longer episode would be. Ewoks and Droids don't count either; they were targeted towards children, and we've got no proof indicating that these will be. The Christmas Special doesn't count. What does that leave us with? Nothing.

    You could argue using Young Indiana Jones as an example, but that was another series entirely. Beyond that, there are lots of other factors - there is more established Star Wars material, for example, or that YIJ was made more than ten years ago and tastes change over time. Hell, they aren't even in the same universe.

    I think the best approach here is to wait and see what we get. How can we criticize what we've never seen? Shame fanboys never seem to pick up on that...

    • Re:Sheesh... (Score:3, Interesting)

      by ajs ( 35943 )
      Why all the negativity?

      Ep4 was great because it was something new.

      Ep5 was great because LK worked some heavy magic over it, and it was still something fairly new.

      Ep6 was the warning bell that Lucas had begun to believe that he could do anything and it would still be great. There were moments (Vader looking at his hand; the death of Yoda; etc.), but they were just that: moments. All you have to do is say, "Ewoks," and everyone seems to snap back and remember how disapointed they were. Keep in mind also th
  • Lucas has secured Rick Berman to ruin his new series.
  • by deft ( 253558 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:31PM (#12341097) Homepage
    laverne and shirley always had the fonz pop up now and then for ratings... sooner or later vader will jump out and say "ayyyyy" with a big thumbs up.
  • by monopole ( 44023 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:41PM (#12341204)
    It's Jar-Jar and the Ewoks Fun Hour!
  • by Joel Rowbottom ( 89350 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:43PM (#12341238) Homepage
    [phone rings]

    "George, hi! It's Rick - Rick Berman, you remember Star Trek? Yeah, that one, I sorta invented Star Trek you know... Gene who...? .... Well, we're done with that franchise now... it sorta died out, the demand wasn't there... no... well, y'see, we thought we might be able to do the same for you. Whaddyathink? Couple of spinoff TV series, no original characters... mmhmmm... Brannon reckons we can introduce some of the original characters back later if it doesn't take off... yeah we could do that, tried and tested formula eh... sure, we can meet..."

  • Woo Hoo! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by cyranoVR ( 518628 ) * < minus poet> on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:45PM (#12341264) Homepage Journal
    Lucas hiring Genndy Tartakovsky to work on Clone Wars is one of the few things he'd done right since the Prequels. For me, the series exceeded all expectations - lots of Jedi action! This new development - an ongoing Tartakovsky series - can only be a good thing.

    The full 3-D series on the other hand...not so much.
  • by PainBreak ( 794152 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @05:57PM (#12341393)
    If they're looking for a space pilot, I hear Scott Bakula's looking for a job...
  • Admittedly... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by CloudsSpaz ( 824168 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:18PM (#12341678)
    This doesn't sound like too bad of an idea.

    Assuming Lucas can cut back on the melodrama and other crap that's plagued the new movies, this could turn out to be pretty cool. I'd love to see self-contained episodes that show the stories of average, ordinary "Star Wars citizens" caught up in a galaxy suddenly distressed by revolutionary warfare and political change.

    What if we could see the empire's dominion actually forming (something it seems like the new trilogy is barely talking about)? The civil wars that would erupt on planets as communities clashed over whether to fall in line with the Empire or rebel? I mean, just imagine being able to view the transition from a Jedi-ordered galaxy to one where the Jedi "religion is all but extinct," with the exception of the whispers and stories and rumors that would just be starting to spread of one Darth Vader.

    The idea excites me. With good stories and direction, it could really become one of the better creations of the Star Wars Universe.

    So, basically: Please, Lucas... stay as uninvolved in the project as possible.
  • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:23PM (#12341748)
    as if millions of Star Wars fans suddenly let out a mighty groan.
  • by mikael ( 484 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:24PM (#12341774)
    ... and call the show "Judge Jedi".

    The Judge appears weekly and passes judgement on smalltown disputes between colonists, bounty hunters, and off-world traders.
  • by Uncle Warthog ( 311922 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @06:38PM (#12341916)
    Just think of it: With Mr. Lucas' habit of .. um .. tweaking and adjusting his creations, we'll never see the same episode twice, even with reruns. This might be the best thing to hit television ever.
  • by AzraelKans ( 697974 ) on Monday April 25, 2005 @08:22PM (#12342922) Homepage
    There could be different opinions, but I believe the clone wars micro series have much more quality than anyone expected and to be honest they are WAY better than the recent movies (without chesy actors and cg special effects) so if they are making more thats sounds all good to me. They are extremely anime like (is from the makers of samurai jack after all) so it makes for a good combination.

    Im worried about the live action series though. I have the idea it would look like "MK: conquest" for some reason. after all Star wars and low budget TV dont mix.

Air is water with holes in it.