Revenge of the Sith Easter Eggs 569
Ant writes "Via TheForce.Net, a StarWars.com article with a great list of Easter Eggs from the third prequel movie, Revenge of the Sith. There were many cameos and hidden images." From the article: "
It's tiny, but visible enough to send a warm fuzzy through the hearts of original trilogy fans. In the establishing shot of the expansive Senate docking bays, there's a tiny Millennium Falcon easing into frame. And it's not just a non-descript Corellian freighter; it's on good authority -- namely George Lucas -- that this is the infamous hunk-of-junk before it came into the ownership of either Lando Calrissian or Han Solo."
huh? (Score:5, Funny)
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The author who wrote that bit into his book was trying to cover for George's mistake.
Re:huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
So we have two scenarios... George Lucas, who isn't an astrophysicist, writes a script with what he thinks are correct terms but they turn out to be incorrect and everybody agrees that not all movies are perfect. Or, Star Wars is *never* wrong, man... must... find... alternate explanation! Han, uh... *knew* that the info was wrong and did it to test them or something. Or maybe when talking about fast ships, you give an example about maneuverability, something which a space barge going in a straight line and plowing the asteroids out of the way could have bested.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
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Croddy gives one explanation (the maneuverability test).
The other is that Han was just boasting nonsense deliberately to try to impress Luke and Obi-Wan to see if they were suckers. Had they been impressed, had would have charged them more.
Re:huh? (Score:4, Interesting)
What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:5, Interesting)
Other issues are more important. Although I generally consider the new movie to be excellent, I wish that Lucas would have un-did a major thematic flaw in the first 2 stories in this new trilogy. I am referring to the comment, in "Star Wars I", about the force being transferred from person to person via mitochondria (which is labeled "mito chlorians" by one of the characters.)
Note that in the original trilogy, episodes IV-VI of "Star Wars" (SW), Lucas alludes that anyone can be part of the force. Your participation depends solely on your commitment to open-mindedness and the good side of the force. With this force, you can transcend the difficulties that you currently face. That message is a wonderfully uplifting message for kids of past and present generations.
Then, in SW I, Lucas trashes that egalitarian view and says that Jedis are born, not created. Namely, you cannot be part of the good side of the force by your own choice. Jedis are some sort of elite, snobby group whose membership is determined by blood. Such a message, in my opinion, is atrocious and runs counter to the fundamental egalitarianism of Western society.
Was anyone bothered by this fundamental change in one of the themes of SW?
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:5, Insightful)
What bothered me most about the whole thing wasn't that aspect of it. It was that they bothered to explain any aspect of the force at all.
I really enjoyed the SW movies much more when the Force was some mysterious, unexplainable power that certain people learned to tap into. But the moment they start talking about blood tests and midichlorians then suddenly it becomes techno-bable BS.
It's like any other force of nature or technology. The more unrealistic it is, the more I would prefer them not try to explain it with stupid crap to further drive it home to me that what I'm seeing isn't possible.
I have many other serious gripes with Star Wars. RotJ, TPM, and AotC all did me in for even liking Star Wars at all.
Even if III is really that good, I probably won't enjoy it because it's still built on those other piles of crap.
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:4, Interesting)
> Wars" (SW), Lucas alludes that anyone can be part of the force.
> Your participation depends solely on your commitment to
> open- mindedness and the good side of the force. With this
> force, you can transcend the difficulties that you currently
> face. That message is a wonderfully uplifting message for kids
> of past and present generations.
I think this illustrates the problem with many fans of the original trilogy with regards the new movies. Lucas never said what you described above, and the concept that you describe is not one of his themes. You may have drawn this conclusion as a theme after watching Episodes IV-VI, and it may appeal to you, but it's not part of Lucas's story.
You have to think of Episodes I - VI as as a single movie, and due to the way Lucas made the movies, you walked into the middle of "the film". You drew some conclusions based on incomplete information, and unfortunately your conclusion was wrong.
It's kind of like if you walked into the last half of -- oh I don't know, let's say "Star Trek: First Contact" and you missed the whole part about Picard having been captured and made into a Borg in the first scene. Without this information, you had to create your own "beginning" to make sense of it. So maybe you drew a conclusion that Picard had initially created the Borg initially. Maybe you thought that the movie had a theme similar to Frankenstein, where it was about science dabbling into things that should be left alone. You're happy with the theme, but some years later, you get the opportunity to go back and see the first half of the movie. You see the events you missed, and that new information kills the theme you thought existed.
Episodes IV-VI are like that. Lucas themes existed throughout the movies, but they may not match whatever back story that some fans have created in their own minds once they see all six films. The issue is probably compounded by the fact that Star Wars sprouted a host of ancillary novels and other paraphernalia, to which Lucas does not feel constrained to tie his story.
The midichlorians are important for two reasons. First, they help with a theme of when the Republic degenerates into a dictatorship, science makes way for religion and superstition. In Episode I, it is clear that the Jedi understand the science behind The Force. For example, they actually could measure someone's potential related to the Force by their midichlorians count. By the time Episode IV came around, no one even knew the science behind the Force, and people dismissed it as a "hokey religion." Asimov did a similar theme with his Foundation series of stories.
Second the midichlorians provide an important explanation of why Darth Vader had lost much of his power and why Darth Sideous wanted Luke to be his replacement. Anakin had the highest midichlorian count of any Jedi, including Yoda, and he was destined to be the most powerful Jedi of all. However, when he lost his arms and legs, he lost nearly half his body mass and thus his midichlorian count fell by half. Thus he went from being more powerful than Darth Sideous to being maybe 80% as powerful. Still strong, but not exactly as powerful as Sideous would like. Thus, Sideous sought a replacement in Luke.
As for whether midichlorian counts are contrary to egalitarianism, I don't agree. If you want to be a fighter pilot, you have to have good eyesight. If you're born blind, you could learn to fly a plane (with the audio equivalent of instruments), but it would be surprisingly if that blind pilot flew anywhere nearly as well as the pilot with perfect vision. And perfect vision is often related to genetics. In Lucas's story, Force ability is related to genetics via midichlorians. This was foreshadowed in Episode VI, when Obi-Wan said that Luke and Leia had to be hidden because if the Emperor discovered Anakin had any offspring, they would be a threat to him. In other words, Anakin would pass his genetically high midichlorian count on to his children.
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:5, Insightful)
Nowhere is said that Darth Vader/Anakin gets weaker losing limbs. What is the midichlorian just jumped from the limbs to his head? He would be strong anyway. But I would be jumping into conclusions, don't I?
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:5, Informative)
It's never stated in the movies, but the idea of Vader losing power because he loses his limbs comes straight from an interview with Lucas in the February issue of Vanity Fair (the one with the SW actors on the cover, p 167, 1st paragraph).
The article isn't online, but you can find people who have quoted portions of the article [google.com]:
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:3, Insightful)
Now it sounds like you're drawing your own conclusions without any real store.
In "real-life", my cholesterol count has nothing to do with the volume of blood in my body. If I have my legs cut off, I lose a lot of blood,
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:5, Informative)
Hate to burst your bubble, but that's utter crap. It's Lucas Revisionism at its worst. The original Star Wars was a stand alone movie. Period. It didn't even have the "Episode IV" subtitle in the original theatrical release. The plot wasn't one sixth of a story, but a near-direct reuse of the plot from "The Hidden Fortress".
Lucas may have orginally envisioned a series of movies, but he most certainly did not have a complete plot in mind for all six episodes.
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:3, Interesting)
Did he really have C3PO and R2D2 in E1 to E3 and still have Obi Wan not recognize them in E4? Did he really have Jar Jar and the Gungans? Did Chewbacca really know Yoda personally? Did Anakin really kill all the younglings? Was Jango Fett always the template for the clones? How come E1, E2 and E3 directly conflict with early to middle era Lucas approved Star Wars novels?
Methinks he had
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:5, Interesting)
Uh, midichlorians. Nothing to do with mitochondria.
I saw it last night, in a mostly empty cinema. The main thing I had against the film was quite simply that it wasn't much good. Oh, it was pretty, but that's about all I can say for it --- the acting was awful (although Senator Palpatine was fun in a giggling, frothing-at-the-mouth kind of way and Obi-Wan was doing a workmanlike job); the pacing was rubbish (it kept jumping from scene to scene without actually letting anything resolve itself); the choreography was incoherent (the big space combat at the beginning of the film was practically unfollowable; the battle on Kashyyk was largely non-existant); and, most damning of all, it was clumsy.
For example: on (mumble), the volcano planet at the end. Anakin flies in and we get a nice panoramic shot of the facility. Hey, cool, I think, noticing the blue glow around the base of all the structures. Force shields! Fifteen seconds later, during a long, lingering pan past some more of these force shields, I realise that the only reason that Lucas is putting so much emphasis on them is because at some point they're going to fail and the facility is going to fall into the lava. I was right.
Another example: the whole business with Anakin and the Younglings (hey. Sounds like a 60s band name). Yeah, thinks Lucas. Lets show how eeeeevil Anakin has become by letting him slaughter a whole bunch of innocent children! Muhahaha! And just to ram it home, lets have some doe-eyed kid lisp an unconvincing line to tell us just how much they trust him! That's such blatant, clumsy emotional manipulation that it's almost worthy of Spielberg.
Meh. I'm not even going to go into the Fall of Anakin Skywalker. ("Anakin! Be evil!" "No." "Sure?" "Well... all right, then.")
Incidentally, I don't agree with you in what you're reading into Episodes 4-6. The main thing about these films is that they're not SF; they're epic fantasy wrapped up with science and spaceships. (Luke == the unknown prince who grew up on a farm; Leia == the feisty princess; Han == the rogue with a heart of gold; Darth Vader == the Black Knight; the Emperor (who is never referred to by name) == the evil sorceror...) The original Star Wars films have nothing to do with egalitarianism. They're set in a simpler world of fairy tales where kings and queens rule with absolute power, and where hard work means nothing and destiny means everything.
The Force is magic, plain and simple. It's not something learnt, it's innate. Most of the Force-sensitive people in the Empire have been killed; apart from Obi-Wan, Yoda and the Emperor, the only Force-sensitive people we meet are the Skywalker family --- and the fact that they're family is crucial to the plot. Han does not have it, and never learns it. He simply doesn't have the ability.
(Interestingly, it's canon that R2D2 has some Force sensitivity. Not a lot, but he's the only droid ever to feel the Force --- it's not supposed to be possible.)
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:3, Interesting)
I know the films quite well, thank-you. (I don't like to think about episodes 1 and 2.)
And no, the choreography in 3, 4 and 5 doesn't work like that. It's a completely different style. The camera-work is far more s
Re:What's Wrong with New "Star Wars" Trilogy? (Score:5, Funny)
More Money! (Score:2, Insightful)
Phase2: Profit
Phase3: Release Easter Egg List
Phase4: More Profit!!
Re:More Money! (Score:2)
Phase3.5: Buy shares in Lucas Arts and plug the movie incessantly on your 'Stuff That Matters' website.
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It's not their fault you missed em all three times!
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What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:5, Insightful)
He went straight into "evil mode" right after Palpatine gives him the Darth Vader title. It's like there's a "good/evil" toggle switch he pushed (maybe that's what the buttons on Darth Vader's suit is) to turn him evil. No conflicted feelings. Nothing. He could have at least said "I'm sorry for what I'm about to do" to the younglings. Anakin wasn't evil enough yet to slaughter children. He should have been obeying his new master's orders but hating them, and hating himself too... it would have been much much more tragic that way.
In the end, Obi-Wan should have tried to bring him back to the good side much the way Luke did ("Obi-Wan once thought as you do"). The fight would have been much more personal then. They should be not wanting to fight each other, but both are compelled to... that would have made awesome drama. But no....
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:2)
bzzt, yes he was... don't forget that in EPII he slaughtered an entire village to avenge his mother's death...
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:2)
The whole audience went "Huh?!"
Part of the problem was how Sidious' face changed. The the audience knew what that meant but Anakin didn't. If Anakin had showed a strong sympathetic response, that would have helped. Instead just "What have I done?" and you're trying to figure out why Jedis with their discipline training are much easier to 'turn' than your average chimp.
I remember having to obliterate my memory of what I just saw to prevent it spoiling the rest of the movi
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Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:5, Funny)
Universe 2.0 is 8-bit and has grayscale morality.
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:5, Insightful)
>> hating them, and hating himself too
> Did you notice the tear running down his check after he killed
> the separatist leaders? I think he was hating himself.
That's exactly what I saw. He had tears running down his face after he killed the younglings and after he killed the Separatist leaders. Note that before he decided to interfere with Mace Windu confronting Sideous, he brooded in the Jedi Temple for what looked like hours.
He was doing what he had to do to become powerful enough to learn how to keep Padme from dying. He probably thought he would then kill Darth Sideous, and make himself Emperor (since eliminating the Senate would make things more efficient to ensure stability for the galaxy)
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:4, Interesting)
That's his plan all along. He tells Padme that they can rule the galaxy together, and when that falls through he tries to recruit Luke for ruling-the-galaxy duty. He just doesn't want to rule the galaxy alone. His main character flaw is his inability to be alone. He was upset enough from losing his mother to commit a minor atrocity, but luckily for him, he can in a way replace her with Padme. He's obsessed with saving Padme, and when he ultimately loses her, only Palpatine is there to be a father figure. And he's loyal, at least until he finds Luke and figures he can off Palpatine and rule the galaxy with his son.
Probably comes from the fact he never had a father. Interesting, eh?
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:5, Interesting)
> galaxy together, and when that falls through he tries to recruit
> Luke for ruling-the-galaxy duty. He just doesn't want to rule
> the galaxy alone.
Interesting.
I also find it fascinating that Anakin is never free.
He starts life off literally as a slave on Tatooine. Then he starts his Jedi training, and he's not free there either. Remember in Episode II when Padme asks him if he's even allowed to love? He's still a slave, but now he's a slave to the Jedi order, in a sense.
Then he joins the Sith to save Padme, and he's now a slave to the dark side. he tells Luke in Episode VI that it's too late for him, he must obey his master. Anakin's situation makes one reinterpret Leia's line in Episode IV, about Tarkin holding Vader's leash.
The only time Anakin is truly free is when he kills Sideous. And he dies minutes after that.
I guess it can go beyond that. If the Jedi are "slaves" to the Jedi order, and the Sith are "slaves" to the dark side, and he's a slave his whole life, then Anakin's line in Episode I is correct about his dream where he freed all the slaves.
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:3, Insightful)
>> order, and the Sith are "slaves" to the dark side, and he's a
>> slave his whole life, then Anakin's line in Episode I is correct
>> about his dream where he freed all the slaves.
> Except the Wookiees. Please, will somebody think of the
> Wookiees?
Aaah, no one cares about the Wookiees anyway. Why do you think Chewbacca didn't get a medal?
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:4, Insightful)
Besides, you're not supposed to forgive Vader. You're supposed to realize that Vader and Anakin aren't the same person.
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:3, Insightful)
what is the distinction? What is a womb other than a technology for turning embroys into babies? There is no reasonable way to distinguish "natural" from "unnatural". What is natural? Something that arises in nature? Well, people arise in nature, and people build houses, so aren't houses natural? Are anthills natural? You can only distinguish the two if you believe that people are somehow fundementally different from any other
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:3, Insightful)
Our differences are a matter of degree, not quality. That makes us quantitatively different, not fundementally different.
Not any more than sperm or eggs.
You're missing the point entirely. It's not as if fertilized eggs are any more genetically complete than eggs or sperm or kidney cells. They have a different genetic makeup, but all three have an equally complete set. All three contain all the knowledge to create a human being. The only differ
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:4, Informative)
> galaxy, it would have been more interesting for him to 'see'
> lack of order in the galaxy causing chaos.
It wasn't just a one-liner. Anakin's feelings about this were all through Episodes II and III.
In Episode II, there was the whole discussion between Padme and Anakin on Naboo. Anakin says the system doesn't work. Padme asked how would he make it work.
Anakin in the scene can tell that Padme is shocked, so he plays it off that he's joking. Padme can't believe that Anakin feels that way so she assumes he's just kidding.
In Episode III, when Obi-Wan laments that the Senate is going to vote for more direct power under Palpatine, Anakin is pleased because it will help them make decisions faster and fight more effectively.
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Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:5, Insightful)
> still tried to bring him to the good side of the force. Obi-Wan
> trained Anakin from the start, created a strong bond between
> both and he just gives up on him.
It's not a flaw. That's the whole point of the movie. Lucas talks about the duality of nature and the circular nature of violence. In each character, there is good and evil. More specifically, evil exists in good and good exists in evil. At the same time, violence begets violence, so the only way to end the cycle of violence is to refuse to fight. The only character who knows this as true is Luke Skywalker.
Obi-Wan tells Yoda he can't kill Anakin even after what Anakin had done (killed Younglings and aligned himself with Darth Sideous). Yoda tells him that Anakin is dead ("consumed by Darth Vader"). Obi-Wan accepts that reluctantly, and he confronts him. Obi-Wan tries to bring Anakin back, but he is too quick to use violence as his solution.
Luke on the other hand, throws away his lightsaber, and refuses to kill his father, which brings Anakin back (the spark of Anakin that was left in Vader). Anakin then kills Sideous (sacrificing himself) instead of allowing Sideous to kill Luke, and completes the fulfillment of the prophesy.
What people see as inconsistencies are often illustrations of the greater themes in the movies. Yoda was wise in Episode V, but he acted foolishly in Episodes II and III. Of course that makes sense, because how does one gain wisdom except by learning from one's mistakes? Yoda figures out that by Episode V that wars do not make one great. The events of Episode II and III taught him that. Except, Yoda did not learn one lesson between Episodes II and III: that he should not have given up on Anakin.
Luke for all his poor formal Jedi training understood that and that's why he prevailed in the end.
Re:What bothered me about Anakin's downfall (Score:4, Insightful)
Ahh, you had me until that last sentence.
Luke received very good training. Yoda knew exactly how to train him for the reasons you mentioned.
Remember the jedi training and the "cave" scene? That was to teach Luke not to kill Vader because if he did he would kill himself.
Re:Senile Yoda (Score:5, Interesting)
He's trying to test Luke's patience (and Luke fails the test: "I cannot teach him, the boy has no patience.") After that, Yoda is dead serious the rest of the film, and only attempts to be funny once in Return of the Jedi ("when 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not").
And what did he do with his laser?
His lightsaber? I think I saw it get dropped during the battle with Palpatine in the big Senate room. I suppose Yoda could have used the Force to retrieve it, but he was probably in a hurry - or figured, in exile, he would not need it.
Besides, when Luke comes around looking for a "great warrior" the last thing Yoda would have wanted to do was break out the lightsaber and show Luke a few cool moves. Luke was stuck in a mindset of expecting Jedi to just be saber-wielding killing machines, something Yoda probably wanted to correct. Seeing Yoda using a lightsaber would only have convinced Luke that the lightsaber makes the Jedi, and he'd have ignored or misinterpreted all the lessons after that.
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Parent is referring to the Wilhelm [onthemedia.org], a sound effect that sound artists seem to stick into every film they can as a joke.
From the above linked article:
The Wilhelm has punctuated the death and dismemberment of dozens of characters in some 20 to 25 movies, particularly in those associated with George Lucas. With appearances in some of history's biggest hits, from Star Wars to Raiders of the Lost Ark to Toy Story, clearly this sound gets around.
hilarious (Score:4, Funny)
Grocery Store Wars: The Organic Rebellion [storewars.org]
Ah hah! (Score:2, Funny)
not seen yet (Score:2)
What really makes Star wars is the spin off industries.
Forget Industrial light and Magic for a moment. Who wouldn't pay a fortune to have Lucas's PR agency h
Re:not seen yet (Score:3, Funny)
Certainly better than this outing's
"It's because I love you so much"
"No. I love you more... Pookie"
Well, at least that's what I got out of it.
I mean, has he not been in love since high school?
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Bush (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Bush (Score:2, Interesting)
You mean, "If you aren't with me, then you're my enemy!" of course. (right before he and Obi-Wan go at it/also a Bush quotation)
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hmm?
Re:Bush (Score:3, Interesting)
While I agree with him, I personally couldn't really care less what Lucas thinks, and his references to the situation are as simple and without subtlety as we accuse Bush of being.
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Re:Bush (Score:3, Interesting)
Remeber in ep1 when Yoda looks into Anakin's future, frowns, and declares it "fuzzy" and says he can't see?
He lied.
He saw the awnser to the riddle of the Balance of the Force: From an imbalance of thousands of light-side weilder and only two dark-siders, Anakin will bring balance: Two of each.
Yoda keeps his mouth shut and makes sure he's one the two.
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Just a coincidence (Score:5, Insightful)
> dialog.
The dialog is superficial. Calls for dramatic absolutes are common when dictators are trying to gain power, as well as anyone with extreme viewpoints. It helps them manage the cognitive dissonance [wikipedia.org].
Actually all the Star Wars movies are describing, among other things, how Democracy can fall to fascism.
In summary, Palpatine starts a fake war[1] (where he controlled both sides[2]) in order to get elected and stay in office[3] by appealing to people's fear and rallying nationalism [4]. He convinces the Senate to vote Emergency Powers to him [5] in order to consolidate more power under himself. He finally declares the end of the Republic [6] in order to bring "peace" to the galaxy.
The movies are not intended to directly catalog Bush or his policies. The original plot was written in the 1970s, and it was inspired by a number of events in history, including Hitler's rise to power and the Vietnam War. The way we humans move from democracy to fascism happens in roughly the same way each time.
It just so happens that it can be argued that Bush has been following the same pattern as any drive towards fascism. Thus, any parallels to the current state of the U.S. is purely coincidental.
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[1] Whoops! No weapons of mass destruction found [cnn.com]. Our bad.
[2] Didn't we used to fund and support Saddam Hussein [whatreallyhappened.com]?
[3] Tom Ridge finally admits that the Department of Homeland Security twice questionably raised the terror alert [usatoday.com] status in order to prop up Bush's poll ratings during the election.
[4] Freedom fries [cnn.com], anyone?
[5] Secret sneak and peek searches via the PATRIOT Act [aclu.org], anyone?
[6] "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier," Bush said, pausing and then joking, "just so long as I'm the dictator [cjonline.com]."
Re:Just a coincidence (Score:4, Insightful)
We really can't tell how much anyone wants power in and of itself, and how much they have goals that "justify" their quest for power. I'm sure Hitler thought there were good things comeing that made a few sacrefices necessary. We can't really tell by racial doctrines either, unless you include racial superiority arguements without always requiring megadeaths to accompany them. It's worth remembering that the Italians under Mussolini were practically the epitomy of fascism, but they didn't round up their local Jews and other ethnic types nearly as much as the Germans did (near the very end of the war, the Italians did turn over about 4,500 Jews to Gestapo representitives, under strong pressure from Germany. That's a lot of individual tragedies, but when you look at it against the background of WW2, it almost disappears.).
Fascism seems to require telling your chosen audience they are special, and in some poorly defined way, superior to everyone else, and in blameing every complex problem on scapegoats that are well defined enough to make the problems look simple and solvable. Trotting out the Scapegoats whenver there's a reversal of fortune is one of the clearest signs of it.
Re:Just a coincidence (Score:3, Insightful)
> they seem to have a problem with absolutes of their own.
I think that's an interesting point. Perhaps the line is more telling that we think. The original lines are:
Re:Just a coincidence (Score:3, Informative)
Read the following quotes, and ask yourself, if this were the information you had, wouldn't you consider Iraq to be a clear and present danger? If we can't trust the assertions of our Democratic leaders, who can we trust?
Additional Easter Eggs (Score:5, Funny)
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Easter egg 2 - Hayden's acting - Given 2 hours + of movie time, it's entirely possible he appears to be able
Re:Additional Easter Eggs (Score:2)
Maybe they were. It's hard to tell. Given that the rest was pretty much crap, maybe he finally did something right.
I'd say it +5 funny more than +5 informative. It can still be tragically true and be funny.
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Sith Easter Eggs (Score:3, Funny)
Homage to ET? (Score:4, Interesting)
**Minor Spoiler**
Did anyone else feel the scene where Yoda leaves Kashyyyk was entirely reminiscent of the last scene in ET? Even Yoda's little pod looked a lot like ET's ship to me. I could even swear I heard the ET theme playing in the background.
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Crossovers are fun : ) (Score:4, Insightful)
You are not alone.
Remember, in ET, it's halloween and ET sees a kid in a Yoda mask and gets all excited, saying "Home! Hoooome!"... and the reciprocal ETs in one of ep1's Galactic Senate scenes.
On the bright side (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:On the bright side (Score:5, Insightful)
I watch Sci Fi channel, for god's sake, so I'm not a movie snob by any means. The acting in those movies is bad, but they are also filmed on $10. In a $200m major blockbuster with well-known actors, I expect the acting and dialog to at least keep up with something like Stargate, a series filmed for a fraction of a fraction of that cost.
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YT-1300 vs Millenium Falcon (Score:5, Funny)
I did not know for instance, that the original YT-1300s have seperate jets while the MF has a big semi-ring of motor power block jet thingies.
(Girl going tech/mech here, beware.)
Ah well, Lando did some last minute remodifications when visiting the Second Death Star and scraped the hull a bit, incidentally losing the communications array too.
What do you mean, -3 off-topic? I'm a girl geek, what do I know of topics anyway!
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Re:YT-1300 vs Millenium Falcon (Score:5, Funny)
Re:YT-1300 vs Millenium Falcon (Score:5, Funny)
Re:YT-1300 vs Millenium Falcon (Score:3, Interesting)
I read
I know and like Star Wars.
I know and like and play D&D.
And thanks to someone else's comments my boob size is now being discussed on the
Boy, you're easily swayed, aren't you?
PS: Sorry, no, I'm with NoKey who teaches me linux (gotta love a man who teaches you linux!).
PPS: sorry for off-topic.
Re:YT-1300 vs Millenium Falcon (Score:5, Funny)
Liar - this is what really happened:-
Xzbit "So this is your ride? What a piece of Junk!"
Han "Yeah - she may not look like much.."
Xzbit "Damm man, you got that right. So.. what IS it?"
Han "It's a Corellian YT-1300 light freighter"
Xzbit "You mean it USED to be! Look at this paint job - is that paint or dandruff ?"
Off to 'Western Spiral Arm Customs!'
Xzbit "Well, Han Western Spiral have done an amazing job on your YT, and here's ma droid Q to take you round the outside"
Q "When we first got your YT, Han it was so badly beat up, we didn't think it would fly at all.
Now we know you do a bit of smuggling so first we hit you with these Quad turbo laser cannons..
And that's not all: for a really powerful punch, we also added you very own Arakyd Concussion missile tubes!"
Han "No waaay - get outa town - you gave me my own missile launcher?!"
Q "We sure did, right there on your YT. Now, those weapons are great for when you're out on the
sublight highway, but what if some low lifes try and steal your ride from the docking bay? Well check this out: Taim & Bak hooked you up with this neat ventral Auto Blaster. It drops down and
takes out the bad guys."
Han "That is sooo neat"
Q "In fact, we couldn't let this one go without giving you the ultimate smuggler's package, so we
hit you with the Seinar Fleet systems Active Sensor Pulse Generator, a Torplex Fore Deflector
Shield generator, and Carbanti hooked you up with this 29L Electro-Magnetic Countermeasures
package. Not only that but here you got your Nordoxicon Anti-concussion Field generator, a
KaproCorp Acceleration compensator, for those tight turns, a Torplex Tandem Flight Computer with
the Microaxial HyD Modular Navicomputer with optional crop duster program. And round the back we got you a Novaldex Stasis-type Shield generator on the port side, with a Kuat drive-yards shield generator on the starboard side, and an Ion Flux Stabilser with Alluvial damper, and chrome spinners. We also did some boring shit to the engines but we don't talk about that on the show.."
Han "I can't believe what you guys did to my YT! It's the fastest hunk-a-junk in the galaxy
now!"
Xzbit "And that ain't all - check out your interior. Mike tell him what you did.."
Mike "When we got your ship in to the shop Han, you didn't *even* have a stereo, so we hooked you
up with the biggest satellite dish we could find, and a state of the art holographic display
right here in your lounge. And if there's nothing on the TV, it even plays chess!"
Xzbit "Now I know you're wondering where you actually store the stuff you're smuggling - Mike
show Han our special modification"
Mike (lifts floor panel) "Check out your very own smuggling copmpartments!"
Han "Oh. My. God. That is soooo awesome!"
Mike "And if you ever find that you need to smuggle yourself in these, we installed 10 inch
monitors and Holo player right here in the compartment lids, so you can watch movies whilst
hiding out!"
Xzbit "and finally Han, what's a ship these days without strobe lights? Now we want you to stand
out on the approach apron down at Mos Eisley so we hit you with the latest Gelieg 20m-cp
Strobe/C-beams. These puppies will light up the inside of an asteroid!"
Han "This is unbelievable - wait til Chewie sees this!"
Xzbit "Han - you officially bin pimped!"
Re:YT-1300 vs Millenium Falcon (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:YT-1300 vs Millenium Falcon (Score:2)
Pics load for shit. (Score:2, Flamebait)
I didn't like it that much anyway.
This really does belong on /. (Score:2, Funny)
Wow, news about easter eggs in Star Wars? This really is news for nerds.
/me wonders why he read the article anyways
/me wonders why he is writing "/me"
/me has to log off immedi
I don't know how this one didn't make the cut (Score:3, Funny)
Another Easter Egg I found (Score:3, Funny)
And also it changes directors to Spielberg.
Re:Another Easter Egg I found (Score:2)
There's a good easter egg in The Phantom Menace... (Score:3, Interesting)
A dusty EVA pod from 2001: A Space Odyssey can be seen in amongst the junk in Watto's junkyard. Must have been the one that cut Frank Poole's air supply, eventually ending up in a galaxy far, far away.
Injokes and references (Score:2)
The Falcon cameo is far less jarring (indeed, barely noticeable), but it has the
Another overlooked easter egg.... (Score:5, Funny)
C3PO (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:C3PO (Score:3, Interesting)
Q Thank you for connecting to your fans. We really appreciate that one of our idols will actually listen to our opinion. Will we ever discover the backstory for the silver shin? LoserkidBXCR
A As you may have gathered from all the fluff that is surrounding Episode III, Threepio is, for the first time, completely gold from knee to foot. I believe this is in honour of the expensive carpets in Miss Padme's bedroom and the rather elegant desig
Easter Eggs?? (Score:5, Insightful)
The Millennium Falcon Cameo (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Millennium Falcon Cameo (Score:3, Insightful)
I would imagine that he was given to Leia not because she needed an astromech, but rather that Obi-Wan and Yoda wanted someone who knew exactly what her father was capable of watching her. C3PO was given to her because someone needed to
Re:The Millennium Falcon Cameo (Score:4, Funny)
I am surprised that the Ewoks did not turn out to be Chewbacca's midget children that he never knew about.
Everyone knows the Ewoks are a race of midget wookies.
Also, if you really pay attention, you learn the following things:
Yoda is Chewbacca's father.
While technically, yes, Anikin was "conceived" by the midicholorides or whatever the heck they're called, the real reason Anikin's mom was so vague about his conception was that she was having an affair with Watto at the time.
The real reason why Jar Jar was kicked out of the secret underwater city is because he was gettin' it on with Padame, an act strictly prohibited by the Gungan. However since they're pretty much all stupid, the gungans only description for sexual miconduct is "being clumsy". Proof of this is found in Episode II's tortured romantic discussions between Skywalker and Padame when she talks about her first boyfriend, and finalized by a split second shot in Episode III when Padame shoots Jar Jar one of "those" knowing looks.
If you pay close attention to the Millennium Falcon in Episode III, you notice that it is NOT the same ship they used in Episodes IV-VI. It's actually the original TOY they released to the general public back in the early 80s. This way, Lucas and his merchindising buddies can say that they toys everyone bought back in the 80s was actually a model of the ship in Episode III, and they should all go out and buy a new Millennium Falcon if they want the REAL Ep IV-VI toy.
Episode III is also the first Star Wars where we discover that people a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away sometimes suffered from terrible gas pains. This was shown by the expressions on Palpatine's face many times in the film (at first I thought it was bad acting, but later learned it was just gas).
Re:Interesting reference... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Interesting reference... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Interesting reference... (Score:5, Funny)
I always miss the good threads.
Re:Interesting reference... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Easter Eggs or hidden drivel? (Score:3, Interesting)
Perhaps the writer was too busy inserting hyper-links willy-nilly to look up the term.
I just hope this isn't a part of a changing trend where writers start to misuse words and before you know it people just accept the missuse as normal. Like the case with emoticons. Somewhere along the line writers decided that "emoticon" was too