




Video Reactions to Apple's Intel Switch 102
Drew Mylrea writes "Here is a video of the reaction to the switch from Mac users at WWDC (small version). Has a somewhat revealing interview with Apple VP Phil Schiller regarding PC users putting OS X on generic PCs, and sums up the overall reaction to the news.(Requires QT 7.)"
Hair that looks like you just rolled out of bed: (Score:4, Funny)
OMFGWTFIntel? (Score:3, Funny)
Video on /. (Score:2, Insightful)
University... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:University... (Score:1)
Of course, most private universities are for the rich, so fuck them anyway.
Re:University... (Score:1)
Looks like the reaction is just a big blue "Q"
Re:University... (Score:2)
Whining bastard (Score:1)
1. Click the link
2. Get 404
3. Whine about the site being down instead
If your ISP sends you that sort of letters you need to change. What you do with your internet connection is no business of theirs. The 'torrent bandwagon' is here because most people have a BT client anyway - it's not hard to find a simple, reliable client [bittorrent.com], and this is a nerd site. Not everyone cries "Oh nos!!!!!111oneeleven1!! Technology that I don't like must die!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Just got done watching (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Just got done watching (Score:5, Insightful)
I think that was the point -- so was the WWDC!
64bit? Dunno.
Comparable speed? Dunno.
Steve should have been more forthcoming.
Re:Just got done watching (Score:2)
With what? Developers now have access to what they need to release applications for products a year or more away. Apple rarley comments on future products, and this is no exception.
Comparable speed? Hard to say when the chips Apple is likely to use aren't in existance yet. WWDC 2002 didn't have a G5 2.0 system being benchmarked against a G4 1.42. Only once WWDC 2003 came around and the G5s were nearly ready to ship did they comment on speed.
Re:Just got done watching (Score:1)
It's a joke. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:It's a joke. (Score:2)
They asked him "It didn't bother you?", he said "It could be a problem if everyone cheered or everyone booed, both ways it means something is definitely wrong"
Of course his grammar doesn't suck that much
hrm. (Score:2)
I want to know though: who can put some names on that soundtrack?
Re:hrm. (Score:1)
Re:hrm. (Score:1)
Which all led up to a 5 second talk about how people might be able to hack Mac OS X to run on non-Apple Intel machines.
Re:hrm. (Score:1)
Re:How am I supposed to watch this video? (Score:2, Informative)
Its avalible in beta to windows
Re:How am I supposed to watch this video? (Score:2)
233 MHz Intel Pentium class or better processor (oh always a lie)
At least 128 MB of RAM (ok, a bit swapping)
Windows 2000 or XP
Windows 2000 really shipped in year 2000 right? Not like Longhorn story...
The point I want to make is. If you are a Apple customer running anything less than 10.3.9 (Panther will all updates), you can't watch that Quicktime 7 video.
Too many zealots out there, hope you understood what I mean without giving more details or commenting.
Re:How am I supposed to watch this video? (Score:1)
Re:How am I supposed to watch this video? (Score:1)
Nothing new (Score:1)
Better transcription? (Score:2)
Question: "So you're not [considering?] [something] a hack [unintelligable]"
Answer: "*shrug* Who knows what the future holds, what people won't do, but that's how they're [working on it?]."
While we're supported small film here... (Score:2)
LOL [ucla.edu].
Weirdos.
Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:5, Insightful)
Statements like this are ridiculous. What, your Mac suddenly stopped working after WWDC? You can't browse the web or read e-mail anymore?
In the mid 90's I had owned a NeXT cube for four years when they announced that they weren't going to build hardware anymore, and that they were porting OpenStep to Intel, HP-PA, and Suns. The impact on me? I got a nice consulting job helping a company set up a bunch of new HP-PA OpenStep machines. When I added an Intel box to my home office network, I used NFS to share the fat binaries from my cube to the new machine, and everything "just worked". As a matter of fact, my old cube still works.
To me the spirit of Mac is in the design for usability of both the hardware and the OS. It has nothing to do with what CPU is under the hood. I'm amazed at how many people have their knickers in a knot over this.
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Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:2)
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Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:2)
The reason why some of us are disappointed is because the Apple was the last bastion of computing that wasn't powered by the x86 platform. Everything else (MIPS, Motorola 68k, ALPHA, HP's PA-RISC) has either been relegated to embedded computing or discontinued, with the SPARC still holding out (but looks like it's in bad shape; I have a feeling that the SPARC will be discontinued within the next few years). The PowerPC, like the other chips that I mentioned, had an elegant design and was quite powerful.
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Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:2)
Well less platforms = more good says I.
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Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:2)
Try something for me. Watch the h264 videos from Apple site on a 1800 mhz (no need more) desktop running Pentium 4.
Now watch them on a 1800 Mhz G5.
Have a nice day, no need to be that optimistic or apple apologist for 2 years.
I know Steve Jobs is genius, he figured Apple customers just look for design etc, not the CPU or performance really.
There we go back to 80s arch.
Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:2)
Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:1)
Panther users got so mad that they had to ship a 6.5 REinstaller, imagine that!
Lots of professional apps are also kind of broken.
About the HD wmedia, it looks like MS shipped a "core image" like patch for nvidia chips which gives lots of work to GPU. (which should be)
Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:1)
Now watch them on a 1800 Mhz G5.
I watch them without problems on my 1.5 Ghz Alu Powerbook.
Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:1)
Oh whatever, he decided.
Re:Ok that's quite fun (Score:2)
A Mac with an Intel CPU is still a Mac.
What I'd like to know is what a Mac with a PPC CPU is going to be in a few years' time. I've been seriously considering getting a Powerbook, but if Apple are going to switch to Intel I want to know for how long they're going to keep releasing PPC-compatible binaries, something which I haven't spotted here or on any other site yet.
Apple on Intel, with dual-booting and all, sounds sweet, but if I could get a guarantee that I can get some reasonable use from a PPC,
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Re:Where's ASOT? (Score:1)
No kidding.
Are they going to have those hideous "intel inside" stickers? To me that's got all the class of a car with TURBO written on the side. Might as well put a spoiler on the damn thing.
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Re:Where's ASOT? (Score:2)
Re:Where's ASOT? (Score:1)
Since Apple will have no problem selling same parts %30 more expensive to such a community.
While even non geeks are moving to AMD 64 for games, performance, we leave PowerPC G5 processor for Intel so Apple's pipe dream of racing with Dell happens.
The day Apple ships a $500 'real" PC, Dell will ship same configuration or even better for $400. We will even hear their already funny price for XP license will fall to more funny levels.
Lets bet
The real story here.. (Score:2, Funny)
Come on, you did that on purpose ... (Score:2)
Re:Come on, you did that on purpose ... (Score:2)
Re:Come on, you did that on purpose ... (Score:3, Funny)
Lame... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Lame... (Score:2)
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Re:Lame... (Score:3, Interesting)
Bit of a sticky wicket, that.
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Carbon reminds me of when I was bad as a child... (Score:2)
"God, please kill it...."
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Re:Carbon reminds me of when I was bad as a child. (Score:2)
Maybe Intel can be persuaded to help underwrite the cost of moving Adobe's apps to Cocoa...
Re:Lame... (Score:1)
Man that is sign of a "cult", "our mighty leader decided" type stuff. not good.
Can't view with QuickTime Alternative? (Score:2)
Re:Can't view with QuickTime Alternative? (Score:2)
Got it to work! (Score:4, Informative)
"NOOOOOOOO!" (Score:5, Funny)
"You were the chosen one!!" (Score:4, Funny)
"You were the chosen one!! It was said you would destroy the Wintel, not join them!
You were supposed to bring balance to the Mac, not leave it in darkness! You were my brother Steve! I loved you! But I could not save you."
It was pretty harsh when Obi-wan cut off Steve's legs and left him on the lava, though.
pointless.freaking.movie (Score:1)
You get about as much info out of it as the average Film School project too.
Favorite quote, delivered by the pot head looking dude:
The Apple community is now an event...?
Download it to see how nice H.264 looks and a rare glimpse at one of the P4 powered PowerMacs. I like that song too, isn't that off of the Lemony Snicket movie?
Says who?? (Score:2)
Yeah, or mplayer 1.0 apparently, on my p4 1.7ghz..
Re:Says who?? (Score:1)
From what I understand from Steve Jobs speech, its slower than your P4. I mean, it became, overnight *g*
The only good thing about that POS video (Score:2, Funny)
Re:The only good thing about that POS video (Score:2)
There is nothing needing OS level technology (kernel etc) at h264. It could run like
Which secret part of kernel does it? heh
Lets bet 10.5 will run awfully slow on G5 consumer level machines like iMac and people will go out and
MORE fun (Score:1)
Also, this page contains more videos. Oh goodness! http://users.design.ucla.edu/~mylrea/blog/ [ucla.edu]
An interesting piece of social commentary. (Score:2)
Re:An interesting piece of social commentary. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:An interesting piece of social commentary. (Score:2)
What a waste of time. (Score:3, Informative)
I was expecting to see some shots of the audience as Steve made the announcement, to see the looks on everyone's faces (or maybe it was there, but too quick for me to notice).
no news = no subject (Score:5, Informative)
As for the audience's reaction, I would actually say everyone was already braced for the news, when it hit everyone was ready to hear the plan. What was stunning was the lack of information during the keynote as to what the systems architecture would be like (not even spilling the guts on the OF / BIOS).
To answer questions about music:
1st song: Thomas Newman, Lemony Snicket - Drive Away
2nd song: Tan Dun, Hero - Gone with Leaves
Drew
Re:no news = no subject (Score:1)
What was stunning was the lack of information during the keynote...
That's because it was a keynote. It was a media event, not a technical briefing. That's what all the WWDC sessions for the rest of the week were for. They gave a lot more information in detail on where Apple is going with this, especially the details that are actually practical and relevant to a software developer. Not all the big questions were answered, but a little allowance for the things still being in development and a little commo
What is your return policy? (Score:1)
gta
While we speak about H264 or hi def video (Score:2)
System Requirements
Because of the processor-intensive requirements of high definition video, you need a powerful Windows XP-based PC to get the best experience.
Minimal Configuration
(Play 720p video)
Microsoft Windows XP
2.4 GHz processor or equivalent
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I watch 30fps 720p video via qt 7, h264 codec on G5 (single) 1600
It was a good choice Steve, real good choice!
v7? How come? (Score:2)
1) Apple does a shitty job at correctly supporting their own damn formats
OR
2) ffmpeg (the almighty decoding lib under mplayer's hood) comes from TEH FUTURE