Don't Click on the Blue E 313
Don't Click on the Blue E | |
author | Scott Granneman |
pages | 254 |
publisher | O'Reilly |
rating | 7 |
reviewer | Tony Williams |
ISBN | 0596009399 |
summary | Good guide to Firefox for beginners with some minor flaws |
That said, it is not without flaws. I hate most of the first chapter and see it as a waste of space. 35 pages mainly of history (some of the Net, and some of browsers) is almost self-indulgent. Certainly almost all buyers would not miss the information if it was reduced to two or three pages in the introduction or first chapter. There is some useful reasoning to justify the shift from Internet Explorer to Firefox at the end, but the rest needs a good going over with the red pencil.
I also found that for a book titled Don't Click on the Blue E, there was not enough information of the "in IE you did it this way, and in Firefox you do it this way" type. The book is a good entry-level guide to Firefox but I would have hoped for more guidance for people switching from IE to Firefox.
I'm getting a little ahead of myself. First, it has to be said that O'Reilly have done away with their usual cover and given us a bright orange cover with a graphic of a fox about to bite a familiar icon composed of a blue 'e.' I like it, this is definitely an O'Reilly book targeted outside their usual technically savvy market and deserves a different cover style.
The book feels light, despite the 250 pages, and is split into only five chapters and two appendices. As you can imagine, each chapter is a huge chunk of information, but the light writing style combined with a look that is heavy on illustrations and sidebars make it an easy read. Once again, this is a departure from O'Reilly's usual style but well suited to the likely reader. I also thought that they had used a lower grade paper than usual, probably to keep the retail cost down. As this is not a reference book to be kept for years, I didn't see this as a flaw.
I've already mentioned the first chapter; the second is devoted to installing and configuring Firefox. This is full of useful information and good illustrations to explain how to set up the browser in detail. The third chapter is how to use and manage it, covering topics such as the toolbars, the search box and adding engines, the menus, tabbed browsing and pop up blocking. The fourth deals with the add ons - plugins, themes and extensions. The final chapter is a bit of a grab bag. Titled "Advanced Firefox," it covers such topics as Live Bookmarks and searching in pages. Each chapter has a well-researched and useful "Where to Learn More" section pointing to web sites with tools and information.
This is probably not a book for the average Slashdot reader. You may like to buy a copy so you can lend it to Uncle Bob or Aunt Susan after you spend another wasted afternoon cleaning the viruses and spyware out of their PC, but I doubt you'll want a copy for yourself. Taken as a whole this is a well-written, thorough book for the absolute beginner with one or two minor flaws. Despite the book's flaws I still find myself recommending it. If you would like a better look yourself, O'Reilly have their usual page of contents and two excerpts from the book.
I would recommend this book over Firefox and Thunderbird Garage for more serious readers. Garage has an occasional quirky tone that might annoy some -- for others it might be a benefit to learning. It also has a little more detail in some areas. Of course if you want a book that covers both applications, then Garage is the only book I've found. Don't Click on the Blue e is a good volume for a beginner who doesn't need the coverage of both Firefox and Thunderbird of the "Garage" book and would like a little more detail.
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I for one do not welcome our advertising overlords (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:3, Interesting)
Either you want to know the basics (ie no more than 50 pages worth but ideally 15-25 pages) or you want to know the details (ie 250-1500 pages worth) a 250 page for dummies book is far to much. Dummies should have to read that much, and it ends up being mostly fluf anyway.
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:5, Insightful)
Trust me, it's not easy to write a non-techie book. You may think there's no market for those kinds of books, but the fact that millions of copies of the "For Dummies" and "Complete Idiot's" series have been sold would indicate otherwise. You can't blame O'Reilly for jumping into the consumer market, it's a much larger pie than the techie market.
I am surprised to see a non-techie book reviewed here, though. Definitely not the intended audience! But then again, every techie I know has a non-techie spouse/friend/parent, so it's good to have books to recommend to them when you get tired of answering questions :-)
EricRe:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
It's the consumer that suffers in this. Mainly in thier own ignorance.
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
You're a bit cynical, aren't you? Every author I know, including me, goes to great pains to write books that explain, not confuse. Sure, the publishers like to see books that can have "sequels" and "spin-offs" and other related books, but how is that different from (say) TV or film?
Also, not everything about the book is under the author's control unless they self-publish it. The title often isn't (I certainly didn't come up with "Make Easy Money with Google", my working title was quite uninspiring) and ne
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
I darn you to heck!
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
I'd like to know how Safari makes choices as to which applications are used to open what vs. which plugins?
I'd like to know how to modify what Safari considers "safe content". Can I make the rules more complex than just extensions?
I'd like to change the look and feel of the bookmark bar so that RSS extensions have their own menu. I'd like things to automatically alphabatize (like they do in IE). I'd like to add "add folder" to the bookmarks
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
You are obviously new here. Slashdotters only complain. They complain about X, KDE, Gnome, Fluxbox, blackbox, openbox, windowmaker, gentoo, rehat, slackware, *BSD, slashdot, microsoft, linus torvalds, linux...I think you get the idea. Slashdotters do nothing but complain. That's the only constant here, man.
And wtf does "becoz" mean?
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2, Funny)
That's right! I don't know about you, but all of this complaining is getting under my skin. It's really torquing me off! Don't these people have anything better to do than to take up valuable
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:3, Interesting)
Kudos to whoever submitted the story, nothing like free advertising, and shame on the editor that published it with the Source ID in the querystring
Unless of course that is slashdots ID , in that case great part of submarine income on Slashdots part
Every penny counts ? No but the melt real nice with a benzomatic
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:3, Insightful)
After all, that's just a free contribution to Slashdot, a web that 1) does not require subscription, 2) where the ads are not intrusive and 3) you enjoy reading / posting.
Maybe they have costs to cover
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2, Informative)
Clearly, it's all a conspiracy.
It's so secret that it's right there hiding in the open, in the book review guidelines linked from every Slashdot review [slashdot.org].
timothy
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Speaking of links, please do not include links in your reviews to online bookstores. Slashdot has an linking arrangement with Barnes & Noble; that's why when bn.com carries a particular book, you'll see a link to it at the bottom of the review.
An exception: if a book is not available from bn.com, make sure your review addresses availability: is it available used? Only direct from the author or publisher, or onl
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Why?
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:3, Insightful)
Absolutely. No author I know likes bad reviews, but a reviewer that explains why they didn't like a book -- because they thought it was about X or it didn't talk enough about Y or it spent too much time on Z -- is providing useful information. Even a bad review can lead to a sale. It's the non-constructive reviews that blather on but really say nothing more than "this book sucks" that are (in my mind) unhelpful.
Look at the reviews on Amazon for Head First Java [amazon.com], which is definitely not your standard book.
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
I actually did this for a family member who would call me twice a day after I gave them a computer.
I bought them a book on Firefox and a book on Windows XP. Now I don't waste my time on 'problems' like I can't find my music files or how do I a print a photo.
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
Re:I for one do not welcome our advertising overlo (Score:2)
All in all, a very helpful review, even though I won't read the book myself.
The Blue what? (Score:5, Funny)
And what's that silly fox [mozilla.org] gumming, Lithuania?
Re:The Blue what? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The Blue what? (Score:2, Funny)
<Kupo> man
<Kupo> Firefox can fuck itself
<DarknessTear> It can? So THAT's what the Firefox logo is doing.
Maybe it's both (Score:2)
Friends don't let friends.... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Friends don't let friends.... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Friends don't let friends.... (Score:2)
Re:Friends don't let friends.... (Score:2)
Re:Friends don't let friends.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Step 1, put in Linux install disk...
Re:Friends don't let friends.... (Score:3, Funny)
Friends don't let friends use Internet Explorer [toadstool.se]
So that's what they name it now (Score:2)
one small click for a man, one giant step back in the war on drugs.
e What? (Score:2)
faking users out (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:faking users out (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:faking users out (Score:3, Insightful)
Look, Firefox has about 8%-9% of the browswer market now. In *any other business*, if you said you would deliberately design a store that would prevent 8%-9% of your potential customers from coming in, you would be fired on the spot for negligence.
Re:faking users out (Score:2)
indeed i downloaded firefox one time, burned it onto a cd and then installed it on my computer and 5 other computers of friends and family.
number of dl's means nothing, but actual usage could just as easily be higher than the number of dl's than lower.
Re:faking users out (Score:2)
But it's not. Look, that 50 million or whatever number is through how many versions? And how many of us have downloaded each version as it's come out?
I love Firefox and I think it will continue to succeed, but reality check here folks. Inroads have been made, but it's still an IE world for the most part.
Re:faking users out (Score:2)
I will be very skeptical if I hear that a particular activeX component is absolutely essential for a website to work.
Re:faking users out (Score:5, Insightful)
Every time I read one of these "I'm protecting the user by not telling them" posts I can't help but think you're doing a disservice to them, your business and the mozilla team.
My ISP, for example, makes sure on their pages that they prefer Firefox and encourage you to download it. Don't you think that's the more honest way to do things?
If I were a customer and found out you "tricked" me, as it were, you'd lose a customer.
Re:faking users out (Score:2)
I would guess that most users, especially the clueless ones, would prefer to be tricked into using a different browser than tricked by using IE and getting loaded with adware, spyware, and viruses.
Re:faking users out (Score:2)
I'm not sure that faking is really the best policy, though - too close to the whole "security through obscurity" mindset. On the other hand, users HAVE come to associate the blue E with the Internet.
I remember a flamewar on Usenet, where half of those involved insisted that they were on the web and therefore HTML was valid in posts. The other half wanted to roast them over a fire, partly for the ignorance an
Re:faking users out (Score:2)
I liked how (Score:2)
How about.. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:How about.. (Score:2)
Anyone else think this is a little strange? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone else think this is a little strange? (Score:2, Insightful)
Now you're just being paranoid. (Score:2)
Not only that, but they aren't really there.
"There is a man that sits in the corner of my room.
No one else sees him.
When I tell them that there is a man that sits in the corner of my room, they beat me."
"We beat him".
"Oh go away.
You're not really there.
Don't come back another day.
Ple-ease." (Old, old song, 1968 or so.)
Site user statistics (Score:3, Informative)
Alternate title (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Alternate title (Score:2)
This is a question I seem to have to pose more often on Slashdot. I see so many knee-jerk reactions like this (and also to "privacy issues" that really aren't issues).
If you wanted to buy the book, what harm would it cause to buy it using the link provided? The price is the same to you. Someone makes some money: Either the person that took the time to review the book, or Slashdot. (In this case I happen to know it is Slashdot.)
If you don't trust the reviewer and you think they are biased, then you wo
Holy long-winded statment of the obvious! (Score:2, Funny)
Better not click on the orange fox or the red O (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Better not click on the orange fox or the red O (Score:3, Insightful)
If you don't read a book, website, or other source of information about web browers, then how are you going to learn anything about using a web browser?
Web browsing isn't genetically transferred knowledge, and I don't care how good you are at kicking tires and banging things until they work, if you know exactly where to go and exactly which option to set, you'll do much better than the crowd that is told, "Click on that thing and mess around with it until you get an i
Great: Don't click on the Blue E (Score:2)
I clicked on the Blue E (Score:2)
Wrong medium (Score:2)
Although this isn't a universal constant, I find that books like this are usually targeted at a group of people who generally don't buy any sort of computer books. It's like making a painting for the blind in a way, when the people who need to know this don't typically browse the computers and technology section at
Does it tell me ANYTHING I can't find by going to (Score:3, Insightful)
I hate technical books that tell me less information than was initially provided in the "help" section.
in firefox (i just looked) there is even "for IE users" seperate section.
I couldn't click on the blue e even if I tried.... (Score:2)
Now if I can just figure out how to get my computer infected with a worm or virus, I'll have a reason to reinstall the OS after 3 years. I feel like I'm missing out on so much fun.
Re:I couldn't click on the blue e even if I tried. (Score:2)
I haven't managed to have a box stay up as long as some of the ones at the top of the Netcraft runtime ratings [netcraft.com]. Even with UPSes, you get occasional long power outages. But really, "I'll finally have a rea
Rebellious reflex (Score:2)
Anything but E (Score:2)
I just went through a week of extremely irritating hell because of IE. I have dual boot system that I occasionally switch from linux to windoze 2000 to play a game or 3. Never a problem mainly because I didn't have a broadband connection, only a pathetic dialup modem, so I would RARELY connect up to the net in windoze.
Well, I recently acquired DSL in my rural area and I got connected. Within a couple days of being connected (and switching to doze to update the software and play a few RTCW online games)
Thats all well and good... (Score:2)
Re:Talk about flame bate...Typo Alert (Score:2)
Talk about a misspelling!
Maybe he's hoping not be modded FLAMEBAIT -1.
Re:Talk about flame bate...Typo Alert (Score:2)
Maybe you're affraid of getting modded -1 offtopic
Re:Talk about flame bate... (Score:2)
Re:More good advice... (Score:2)
Re:Acid (Score:2)
Feel free to research further on your own
Re:More good advice... (Score:3, Funny)
"Here take this."
"Ohh wait! don't take that."
"whoa man, you just ate more acid than I've ever seen anyone eat before in my life, man."
Re:Crap (Score:2, Informative)
"Maybe if it didn't take FireFox 10 times as long as IE to start up it wouldn't suck so bad. Opera is pretty quick though."
Try Pre-linking it. You can use XP's built in prefetcher. Simply right-click on the Firefox icon you use to start the browser. Add the text /Prefetch:1 to the end of the line in the target field.
e.g.
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" /Prefetch:1
Re:people don't change (Score:2)
Re:firefox is kinda worthless lately (Score:2)
Switch to Mozilla (Score:2)
So I recommend you switch too and see if that works better for you. Your problem does sound more plugin related, but it's entirely possible that it's just yet another Firefox bug.
Re:firefox is kinda worthless lately (Score:2)
This is the problem with allowing websites to be sloppy rather than requiring strict syntax like a compiler - some site will seriously screw up the various browsers while they try and figure out what it's trying to do...
Re:firefox is kinda worthless lately (Score:2)
Re:firefox is kinda worthless lately (Score:2)
More and more, people are blocking ads not because they mind them, but because they cause their browser/PC to crash.
Re:firefox is kinda worthless lately (Score:2)
Don't you zealots get it? Most people don't want to deal with that shit, they just want it to work. If you found that your milk was tainted with something would you run a test on it to find the bacterium that was causing it? Or would you bitch to the manufacturer?
~S
Re:firefox is kinda worthless lately (Score:2)
Re:firefox is kinda worthless lately (Score:2)
Great (Score:2)
Re:In all honesty... (Score:2)
IE with a popup blocker, firewall, and not as root doesn't seem too bad. However, as a Mozilla/Firefox user since March 2004, I have found using IE painful, especially if SP2 isn't installed on the computer. I cannot live without AdBlock, popup blocking (a non-issue with SP2), tabbed browsing, the search bar for Google/EBay/Amazon/Dictionary.com, and the find shortcut in Firefox (type the forward slash and type the text that you want to find). I also find myself being much more careful browsing in IE tha
Re:WTF? (Score:2)
Re:I went ahead and clicket the blue E (Score:2)
Perhaps a 12 minutes windows heist?
Re:Safari, Opera Firefox (Score:2)
Safari is really nice too but that Mac DNS cache thing is really slow.
Firefox is consistent across all OS's (Opera too) but the main reason I use FF is the extensions.
Re:Safari, Opera Firefox (Score:2)
Re:I need to write a book on how to tie shoes... (Score:2)
For instance, how do you get Firefox to display a page of recent RSS entries? How do I open the "home page" the Live Bookmark came from without adding another pointless bookmark to the menu? How do I get Firefox to track which Live Bookmarks I've already read and which I haven't?
Re:In Soviet Russia... (Score:2)
Re:"Blue E" O'Reilly cover illustration (Score:2)
Re:Maybe not the right time (Score:2)
Aaargh! You mentioned Opera! Don't do that!
You did it again! Stop, stop!
I'm currently using Safari and Konquerer...
I can't believe this! You've managed to mention three non-Firefox browsers in your post! I don't think we're even on the same page.
Re:are people really still switching? (Score:2)
Not long back, Dell committed to buying 300,000 wide-screen laptops a month from a Chinese OEM. That's a single model in a single segment of Dell's XP SP2 product line.
The Mac Mini sells at 30,000 units a month, OEM Linux systems like Linspire, about the same. There has been no mass migrati
Re:Can it tell me (Score:2)
Friend, if you can tell us what those errors are mayhap we can figger them out for you, hear?
Re:I *love* Internet Explorer (Score:2)
IE makes your boot and login take longer, because the HTML control that's 95% of IE is used by Windows Explorer. That does make it seem to start faster, but if your system was properly designed it wouldn't.