Serenity to Premiere at Edinburgh Film Fest 130
CABridges writes "Serenity, the science-fiction/western/comedy/drama based on Joss Whedon's TV show Firefly will receive its official Gala Premiere Screening at the 59th Edinburgh International Film Festival on Monday, August 22nd, with a 'Reel Life' interview with Whedon the next day.
Serenity will make its U.S. debut September 30th and will open in the UK & Ireland on October 7th.
More info available at the official movie website."
Damnit Fox (Score:2)
Re: Gorramit Fox (Score:5, Interesting)
They were pissed that it cost so much to make, while "reality" was dirt-cheap and selling like hotcakes, so they torpedoed it. I hope the who cancelled the TV series all get invitations to the L.A. premiere. And then I hope that ABC picks up Firefly, and those same execs have to watch Firefly's second season kick the out of Fox's lineup.
Re: Gorramit Fox (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm interested - are studio bang-per-buck decisions like this really sensible in the long run, or only for the next quarterly statement? Firefly was certainly expensive to make compared to reality shite, but I can't see reality shite being good for reruns or overseas syndication or wildly successful DVD sales in the way that Firefly has proved to be.
Re: Gorramit Fox (Score:2)
I'm interested - are studio bang-per-buck decisions like this really sensible in the long run, or only for the next quarterly statement?
That is exactly the reason why you or I can sometimes make better decisions than professionals. The same phenomenon applies to mutual funds: in many (not all) cases, a fund manager is evaluated on short-term performance (say, quarterly or yearly). If they can't beat an index during each term, they lose their job. So they have no incentive to produce any long term results
Re: Gorramit Fox (Score:4, Insightful)
Considering that they didn't even bother the explanatory pilot episode until the end, that sounds about right.
Having finally caught the show within the last month or so on DVD, I can see that the show would have done well if it were treated correctly. Had they shown it in order in a steady timeslot, the amount of viewers would have grown as word of mouth spread. Alternatively, since TV executives can't seem to fathom "letting a show find an audience" despite it working in the past, and insist on a combination of heavy advertising and instant success, they could have hyped the hell out of the pilot episode as a "Two Hour Special Event" or something.
Oh well, Fox blew it. It's not the first time, and it surely won't be the last. They seem to be perfectly happy with more instances of She-Male Brides Attack Bachelorettes and American No-Talent Ass Clown. Why they even bother to develop new non-"reality" shows and then instantly cancel them, though, is beyond me. Sigh.
Fox, liu kou shui de biao zi he hou zi de ben er zi!
the same network that killed Futurama ? (Score:3, Funny)
Not really a premiere (Score:3, Informative)
I also will be interested to see what changes have occured since the first showings. I am certain there will be some.
Re:Not really a premiere (Score:2)
An unfished version has been previewed for a small number of people.
Re:Not really a premiere (Score:2)
Re:Not really a premiere (Score:2)
45* say 600=27000 totally tiny insignificant number of people if this is every going to go anywhere and be a hit we must be talking millions.
And its not the number of people that make a premiere but the state of the film.
Re:Not really a premiere (Score:2)
Re:Not really a premiere (Score:2)
I'd love to have already seen Serenity (thrice if it was as good as the series), but for the sake of the "franchise" (yes, I'm hoping it's good and there are sequels) releasing it in September is probably a good move.
Remake of the pilot? (Score:1)
Is this a remake of that episode or that exact episode?
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:5, Informative)
Considering the craptastic movies that have been released this year, it may turn out to be the best movie of the summer.
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
But yeah, kickass movie. I just hope it's not the fanboy in me that thinks so. I really want to see it succeed so that more films can be made.
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
if by 'a number' you mean 'one' then yes.
Good flick tho'
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:4, Insightful)
Because I've seen the series, and it DEFINITELY left a ton of story lines hanging... in fact, just about all of them were left hanging. You can definitely see that the cancellation came as a horrible and sudden event.
Serious, I gotta say this WHAT THE FUCK is up with FOX? Like, I buy all these 1 season series on DVD that aired on FOX, out of order, and they all kick butt!
I'm just reminded of the beginning of the newly-uncanceled Family Guy, and their first episode back. You know, where he lists of shows canceled by FOX for like 5 minutes. I've seen many of these series, and I know they're awesome.
Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for Space above and Beyond on DVD.
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for Space above and Beyond on DVD.
Ask and ye shall receive... [web-worthy.com]
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:4, Funny)
I'm somewhat amazed that they didn't mention John Doe. That was on after Firefly, and I really liked it.
And, because I wrote this one down too, here's another funny moment from the episode:Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
Getting all these series that have already been cancelled at source in the US is startng to get annoying. (Incidentaly, Firefly isn't one of them; I think it might have been shown on Sci-Fi, but I can't get that
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
I really, really liked the second episode. It was amazing, really cool with a catch phrase that meant different things throughout the episode. Remembering just those few words was enough for me to remember basically the entire episode, for several weeks; that is excellent programming, in several senses of the term.
Th
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
1) What about River? What did "they" do to her?
2) What about Book's background? WHy does he know so much about crime, and get so much respect from the feds?
3) Will Malcom and Anara ever get together? Did they really close down that story line, or was that just a teaser?
4) And speaking of Anara, what's with that whole companion thing? It sounds like a geisha religion.
4) Will Kaylee get to tell her mom she married a doctor?
1) What's with the whole Blue Sun Corporation
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2, Informative)
Can't stop the signal.
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Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
Watch the trailer [apple.com] and see for yourself.
Re:Remake of the pilot? (Score:2)
Gloat (Score:1, Funny)
I love Edinburgh during the festival ;-)
Re:Gloat (Score:2)
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And the series starts on SciFi NOW! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:And the series starts on SciFi NOW! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:And the series starts on SciFi NOW! (Score:1)
Re:And the series starts on SciFi NOW! (Score:2)
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Re:And the series starts on SciFi NOW! (Score:2)
Well, at least people will be ready
Non-believer and trailers (Score:4, Informative)
The trailer too was better than I expected. Good eye candy, interesting looking story, enough to get me to likely see the film when I wouldn't before. It made the film look like a [big] film, and not just a long TV show like so many converts these days.
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Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
I had never seen the series.
Then I kept reading
I was finally interested, so I got Firefly Season 1 and watched it all in 2 days.
I wouldn't say I *hated* it, but I was completely unimpressed. I like science fiction, but there seems to be precious little of that in Firefly. It's basically a western in space, and I can't stand westerns. Blame it on growing up in a rural community where cliquish assholes came to school in belt buckles and cowboy hats.
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
Why ever would you have thought, past one instant of the series, that it WASN'T a western in space?
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
I was holding out hope based on all those glowing reviews I've seen here and elsewhere. You'd think if a bunch of self-described geeks rave about a show that takes in space, there'd probably be some technical or scientific aspect to the show.
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
Yeah, but that's only a small part of the story that happens to only entertain certain types of people to a heightened degree, such as ourselves, and we are the few. The series is extraordinarily entertaining, even with a bit (there is certainly some) of the techno babble and a tad of the physics removed.
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
That didn't seem to stop Star Trek from being successful for many years. Do you think fewer people are interested in that type of SF now than used to be?
The series is extraordinarily entertaining, even with a bit (there is certainly some) of the techno babble and a tad of the physics removed.
I suppose it might be extraordinary if you're in
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
1: Why? I've seen geeks rave about 24, American Idol, and Survivor, for crying out loud.
2: Sure there is, but it's all in the cinamatography.
And more to the point, I'd wager that fantasy-geeks far outnumber "science fiction"-geeks, possibly by an order of magnitude. FireFly was quite obviously set in a semi-escapist world quite different from our own
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
None of those take place in outer space. Furthermore, it seems to me that westerns are about as ungeeky as you can get.
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
A single guy comes in from beyond society, sees corruption, acts, and leaves--often with no reward?
No, that's definitley in geek territory.
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
Well, at least what passes for SF on TV. If you're a purist (in which case you won't like almost any self-proclaimed SF TV series), then I might limit it to "Objects in Space", "Bushwhacked", and "The Message". Probably "Trash", too; that's mostly a "heist" story but the SF elements (eg the trash pickup system from the flying island) are essential to the story line.
As for self
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
Was "Objects In Space" a western? "Trash"? "Ariel"? "The Message"? "Shindig"? "War Stories"? "Out of Gas"?
Yeah, several of the frontier planets (moons?) they've set down on have a decided "old west" flavor, but if you look at the chronology the series was getting away from that after the first couple of episodes.
Not that I mind the "western" flavoring, although I've never been a big fan of the straight western genre. If you prefer straight
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:2)
Though it was my cousin who pushed me over the brink; she had the DVDs and we were on vacation with nothing to do.
And minus the Cowboy Bebop reference.
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:1)
The show seems cheesy for the first few minutes, then you really get into it. You end up loving the style, the characters, and the story. It's the best TV show I've watched, bar none.
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:1)
Whedon has five remarkable talents (in my opinion): he lets the audio/video artists really do their stuff and he expiriments, he is quite witty, his character developments are amazing, his foresight for serialization is unmatched, and he really understands how to write female character
Re:Non-believer and trailers (Score:1)
So if you're not a Joss Whedon fan, don't let it stop you from seeing Serenity (& getting into the Firefly DVD set).
I was lucky enough to get a ticket for the last Serenity preview showing in K.C. - I talked with a lot of people while waiting in line to get in, and though most were huge Joss fanatics, not everyone was. (And did I ever get
Boycott? (Score:1, Insightful)
If you can get enough people to stop drinking Pepsi's products to make it worth dropping advertisements from FOX, then that would be a major incentive to bring the show back. Some of these advertisers have to spend enough money, in total, to pay for one TV show.
Torrent please! (Score:2)
any more preview screenings in the US (Score:3, Funny)
Re:any more preview screenings in the US (Score:2)
Decent for TV... (Score:1)
I just don't know if a movie like that would be appealing, even with special effects, interesting characters, and lots of action/fights.
Oh, and the formula I described above is nearly everyepisode of "Buffy" and "Angel", and "Fantastic Fo
Re:Decent for TV... (Score:2)
Wrong (Score:2)
Joss Whedon also has track record in writing screenplays. IMDB credts Joss Whedon as the writer for:
Full details here [imdb.com].
Re: I want more of the episodes (Score:2)
In short, yeah, it's a great show, I've watched every episode twice now *. I'm looking forward to the movie, but a Firefly movie is not what I really want. I want to watch another 2-3 years of episodes of the TV show. There's so much crap on TV these days that it makes me cry that neith
Re: I want more of the episodes (Score:2)
Come on, fess up. The third time it was just the scene with Saffron in Mal's cabin.
(This is where we lament the much under-used* "angle" feature on DVDs.)
*Well, on mainstream discs, anyway.
Comic available (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Comic available (Score:4, Informative)
Sounds fun (Score:1)
It's not Sci-fi (Score:1)
Due to all the acclaim the show got here on
It has absolutely no Sci-Fi in it! The guns even look like 6-shooters! And everyone acts like they are right out of the wild wild west.
It's just a western in space.
It cant hold a candle to ST:TNG. ST made you think about what it could mean to be a human. They brought up a lot of anthropological issues. It was a study in the humanities.
Firefly is just... Inara is hot but, she wears waaaay too many clothes.
Its a western drama. nothing
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:2)
So, what does define sci-fi for you then?
I won't deny the huge western influence, but even as someone who usually hate westerns, I loved Firefly.
Maybe you just didn't liked it, but it's certainly sci-fi.
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:3, Funny)
There is NO sci-fi in it, but there are spaceships, spacestations, government-created psychics, super-efficient organ-transplants, holographic HUD brain scanners, floating estates, flying cars, terraforming, sonic weapons, hand-held laser weapons... but no sci-fi! Nope, no siree Bob, none!
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:1)
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:3, Insightful)
If you like skiffy and space opera, but not SF (eg, you don't read any of the magazines, or science fiction books that aren't TV/movie tie-ins), you probably won't like Firefly.
(There's a great scene in "Objects in Space" where they're discussing River's possible psychic abilities. Wash says something like "I don't believe that science fiction stuff". Zoe gives him a look and says "You're living on a space ship". Wash looks
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:1)
OK looking at IMDB.com, it appears that if a movie has something in it that we currently cannot build, or an alien, then it's sci-fi (or SF?).
http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Genres/Sci-Fi/ [imdb.com]
So I guess Firefly is SF.
But, I don't understand how it helps make a show more interesting to have the guns shoot lasers instead of bullets. Or spaceships instead of boats.
In your example:
"(There's a great scene in "Objects in Space" where they're discussing River's possible psychic abilities. Wash says something like "I
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:1)
Science, being that subject we all know and love, about how the universe works and how we manipulate it.
Fiction, being a story that is untrue in its entirety or in part.
So... science fiction really ought to be, well, a made up story that involves made up applications of science. Which, I have to say, Firefly had a lot of. I won't bother listing them again; they've pretty much been covered(although they forgot the
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:1)
Yeah, damn words don't mean what I want them to.
I admit that Firefly will fit the definition of Sci Fi for
So yeah, Firefly is SF. And I dont like it.
I maybe didnt get my point across well... There was definately a lot of drama in ST:TNG. I cried when Data's daughter died.
But where are the new ideas? There are none in Firefly excpet maybe the idea that whores can be socially acceptable.
Livng together in a ship has been done a million times:
Das Boot
The life aquatic with Steve Zi
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:1)
I'll also point out that all but one of the Star Trek's were about, you guessed it, living on a ship. The other one was about a space station.
Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:1)
Well folks, I think we have come to understanding.
Though I dont agree with your entire post, you hit the nail on the head with the DS9 reference.
I couldnt bear to watch that show.
And you are right, I am being unfair pitting a big budget 7 season show (TNG was 7, right?) against a low-budget first season.
But yeah.. its' just not my thing and I guess I never understood why people liked DS9 and firefly and the multitude of others I dont watch.
Quoty fun (Score:2)
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Re:It's not Sci-fi (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, and you probably didn't notice that little motor or turbo spool up whine as they cock one of those "6 shooters". Not that it matters -- slug throwers can be manufactured and maintained with the low tech infrastructure you'll find on a frontier planet, and they'll kill you just as dead as the laser pistols more prevalent on the core planets. (Inara has one too, c
Can we get a Firefly/Serenity category? (Score:2)
I would, however, like them to be placed in a category of their own so I can filter them out. Seems like these Serenity stories are coming faster than ever, and I know I'm not the only one who has no interest in this space western. (Let's hope the mods today aren't all Joss Whedon fans...)
4 screenings at festival instead of just 2 (Score:1)
Serenity now.... (Score:1, Funny)
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a dissenting view (Score:2)
The cult surrounding this crappy show is baffling.
You may try Buffy..... (Score:2)
In other news,
Oh yeah, there was yet another article about "is programming an art" last week.
I really couldn't understand the fuss about this.. (Score:2)
I enjoyed Buffy and Angel in the early days, but towards the end, Buffy was just crap and Angel went through some bad spots.
Then I finally saw the pilot to Firefly on TV over here in the UK. It looked ok, so I bought the DVD set.
My wife and I sat down and re-watched the pilot. Then she said 'Can we watch another episode?'. We watched 7 episodes that night at her
the next star wars (Score:1)
october? (Score:1)
Beware, some trailers require licenses (Score:2)
BBH
Re:Whedon's kung fu grip chicks (Score:2)
Basically, it lends credance to her kicking everyone's butt in the bar. It like, if I can near instantly learn anything, and I can read your thoughts... why shouldn't I be able to pick up martial arts instantly, and just kick everyone's ass.
Plus, we don't know what they might have taught her while she was being held by the alliance. If they *were* trying to make a perfect soldier, River wouldn't be a bad starting point.
Re:Whedon's kung fu grip chicks (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Whedon's kung fu grip chicks (Score:2)
Not to mention the bad guys were looking right at her.
I wish she'd just stuck her gun hand around the corner, and not stuck her head out while firing. That woulda been cooler.
Re:Whedon's kung fu grip chicks (Score:2)
She doesn't have to LOOK at people in order to shoot at them. Anyone thought about that?
The people in the episode say "calculating all the angles" because they still don't believe for certain that she is psychic.
So, super special assassin skills + intelligence, which is better than anyone + PSYCHIC = she can shoot with her eyes closed and hit people without any effort.
As for her turning away and closing her eyes, when we know damn well that she would be able to sense them
Re:Whedon's kung fu grip chicks (Score:1)
River was described in the pilot as excelling in dance.
Re:Whedon's kung fu grip chicks (Score:2)
interesting side note in episode of angel after Firefly was canceled, we get to see her (Summer the actress who played River) do ballet. Odds are that would have happened at some point on firefly if Fox wasn't run by asshats
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