


Open Source Replacing Books in Kenyan Schools 170
ickoonite writes "The BBC is reporting that wi-fi enabled Pocket PCs running open source software are being used as digital textbooks in classrooms in Kenya, where 'real' books are hard to come by. The story says that the scheme, in its trial stages, currently only affects 54 pupils, but all of them are enthralled by the devices - unsurprising in a country where electricity is a scarce commodity. The article does not make it clear what is running on the Pocket PCs, but this seems a wonderful example of how the free and open spirit of open source can make a real difference." A follow-up to a story from March.
I wonder about the success of this program... (Score:2)
I hope that these electronic books work out better than they tend to in more "civilized" countries like the US.
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I have a couple of neighbours here (sweden) that are developing a light for usage in faraway villages in africa, they charge during the day in the sunlight, and can then light up the night. However, a slight problem being noticed, is the fact that the africans doesn't want the light on at the night, cause.. its night.
Re:I wonder about the success of this program... (Score:1)
depends on if there are enough readily available, cheap raw materials around (trees).
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Take a look at the history of factory productivity sometime- I think it was Henry Ford who sponsored the research, but that's what they discovered- no decrease in human productivity down to three lumens. HOWEVER- lighting a full area effectively with only three lumens is much harder.
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Irony (Score:2)
The irony of the situation is that in more "civilized" countries like the US, corruption takes over and results in textbooks that go through constant revision in order to keep sales up.
I tried to help my wife save some money by purchasing a used text book once. Shortly after class started, the professor admitted that she'd made a mistake on the book and that the students would need to purchase the
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In a country where "electricity is scarce" I'd rather have a paper book, where if part of it is damaged the rest of it is still usable. Sure, it's more difficult (i.e., you're better to make a completely new one) to change the content of a physical book, but the book has a much higher robustness factor. For instance, think about wh
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missing the point, perhaps? (Score:4, Insightful)
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So what you're saying is (Score:2)
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And we know how much burn yo can get from that.
Linux, not Pocket PC (Score:2)
Re:missing the point, perhaps? (Score:2)
I know you were joking, but the machines aren't connected to the Internet ... from this site [worldchanging.com]:
"The other big drawback to this project is that the locations using the system are tied into one-way broadcasts from EduVision, not connected to the Internet at large. There's a philosophical issue at play -- this system makes students and schools are little more than consumers of educational material. The people testing the devices already note a practical problem with one-way communication: there's no way to get
Hmmm... (Score:1)
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If I recall my African Studies classes correctly, hunger in sub-Saharan Africa is due to poor transportation infrastructure, and also is used as a weapon. Famine, created by regimes to control a di
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
Nations in Africa undergoing economic difficulty often have decent supplies of natural resources and ariable land. The problem is that the rule of law is very much dead in several countries, whose barbaric warlords steal and pillage from hardworking people. When taken for all they have, there's very little incentive to start over. The successful ones are stolen from, so why be successful? Without the rule of law in effect
I watched that program (Score:1, Interesting)
The minister said it was a wasted test not suited to his country.
The engineer said books can fall in puddles too, (as though that breaks a book) and in future they would make them with more rubber so less likely to break. He also seemed to think books can only be used once whereas these can be used again and again....
If we don't use them in the west why would they want them in the third world?
Re:I watched that program (Score:2)
Because to deploy something new in a region that doesn't have much in the way of an existing infrastructure is easier than trying change a deeply rooted society. Further, given they don't have much in the way of text books to begin with they are the most likely people to accept pocketpc books in lue of regular books as something is always better than nothing.
Further... have you ever tried to ship books? Books are huge, heavy, bul
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Cool, but... (Score:1)
Well, I guess you could...
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Hi-tech replacement? (Score:2, Insightful)
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as for textbooks rarely breaking, that is where my 9th grade Spanish teacher and I never saw eye to eye.
Possible opportunity... (Score:4, Insightful)
From TFS: So real books are difficult to obtain, but Pocket PCs are plentiful?
Looks like I need to take a trip to Kenya with a couple suitcases full of books...I smell a trading opportunity here.. ^_^
Re:Possible opportunity... (Score:2)
actually they mentioned in the program that books where approx £100+ per year per student so the eSlates where actually cheaper to run (power came from solar) presumably they got a deal for bulk purchasing from HP on the iPaqs (plus its good PR for HP)
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Uh- not to be sarcastic, or insult you (you are excused if you are in high school and don't have to buy books)- but did you go to college? We are talking textbooks, not Penguin Classics. I have bought many $90-$250 textbooks for school back when. Textbooks used in grade school classes are also very pricey. More than E-books. Plus, textbooks are not as useful after a few years (some subjects more than others), so with e books thay can be
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AND I'm sure ther
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I had an O'Reilly book [oreilly.com] for a college course [unm.edu] (Fall 1999 -- David Ackley [unm.edu] is the best professor I've ever had).
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I live in Uruguay, and textbooks are cheaper here than there.
Seems that you pay for it. RTAC is a program financed by the US government to print spanish translated US textbooks, and distributing them very cheaply throughout spanish speaking countries of América.
Computer Networks, by AST is $80 new, on Amazon.com.
You can buy it here for around $30, new, in spanish, financed by the US government.
In the old times, it was called cultural imperialism (let's give them our books, before the comm
Re:Possible opportunity... (Score:2)
(i know it for fact from physics, where the most expensive book i bought was the Tipler (which was about 90$ equivalent, for 1200 pages in Din A4). Most textbooks are between 50-70Euro.
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First, there are probably a lot more man-hours of work researching, writing, and checking the average textbook. Not to say that Neal doesn't do a great job, but the fact density of a textbook is (or should be) very high.
Second, economies of scale are se
Re:Possible opportunity... (Score:2)
Dude, in developing countries, books which have to be imported from overseas are more expensive than they are in the countries where they are printed. So take the most horrendously overpriced textbook you can think of which was printed in your country. In an African country, it probably costs twice as much.
Book prices are ludicrous in South Africa, which is considerably better off than other Sub-Saharan African countries - even the prices of mass-produced popular novels, which are probably imported in h
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Adventure Capitalist by Jim Rogers [amazon.com]. The liberal types will not like him and neither will the conservative types, but he does have some interesting opservations.
-Fucker
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Let me get this straight... (Score:2, Insightful)
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When textbooks are 100-300 USD a piece and PDAs are 100-700 USD I can see where it might be preferrable to go with an inexpensive PDA if you have a good way of getting the material to put on it.
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Um, it's the last bit that's the kicker though.
Textbooks are not expensive because the raw materials are expensive, they're expensive because the publishers know they can charge a lot, as they have a captive audience.
If the people in charge of textbooks in Kenya can come up with the material, the cost of printing it
Re:Let me get this straight... (Score:2)
In short, I believe it. Haven't RTFA, but I'm sure they're not using $1,000 PDAs.
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Great intentions.. (Score:1)
Maybe a way to end this would be for Microsoft to patent the taking of free goods and services and reselling them for p
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Wha? (Score:3, Insightful)
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Textbooks are expensive. Open source software is cheap. Pocket PC hardware costs as much as one or two textbooks, so if you can replace a whole bookshelf with a Pocket PC, that's quite an accomplishment. Paying for software to run on it would double the price.
Re:Wha? (Score:2)
How does a PDA compare?
Using a PocketPC does not make sense in the referenced environment. I don't think people really have a feel for the support system required. It's just taken for granted.
Marketing (Score:1)
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Wi-fi enabled? (Score:1)
The PDA's run Linux... (Score:1)
Of course (Score:1)
Wonderful, but... (Score:4, Insightful)
In fact, a much better investment is in mobile phones and mobile networks. Even the cheapest handsets encourage kids to learn to read and write, not to mention gain proficiency in handling technology. At the same time, adults can use mobile phones to find employment, find affordable goods, negotiate deals, conduct business. Mobile phones integrate themselves into daily life much more easily than PCs, and their impact is thus felt much faster and wider. If the free flow of information enables a market to work efficiently, then what better technology to kickstart the economy than mobile phones?
Here are a few articles with the hard numbers pitting mobile phones against PCs.
http://news.mongabay.com/2005/0712-rhett_butler.h
http://usinfo.state.gov/af/Archive/2005/May/17-48
http://www.economist.com/printedition/displaystor
http://www.economist.com/business/displayStory.cf
While it's certainly heartening that open source software is having a positive effect in poverty-stricken Africa, it's also important for aidgivers to note that dollar for dollar, computers aren't the best use of limited funds.
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U R SO RITE
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I live in Arusha, a city of around 250,000 people (though counts vary). The gap between urban and rural areas is indeed large.
In urban areas, mobile phones are ubiquitous (housemaids and night watchmen paid $50 a month still have phones), satellite TV and internet are available, and electricity
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Battery Life (Score:2)
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Textbooks ARE cheap (Score:1)
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I tried (unsuccessfully) to buy used textbooks, but the practice of publishers in recent years to issue a new edition every two years makes that impossible.
Re:Textbooks ARE cheap (Score:2)
Shipping? Think $20 for a book... think $5.00 to $10 per book if shipping 17 in a single box. That's about the limit before you hit 70lbs via regular means. This is assuming the shipping company is nice enough to charge you the actual shipping cost and not special handeling fees for shipping to another country, and nice enough to put all the books you are ordering into a single box and not be charged the $20 per
Yeah, great idea... (Score:1)
Nice to see governments thinking of the children. Yeah right...
Next up on the voting block: Bill 235, Giving gold rolexes to homeless people who lack wristwatches.
Re:Yeah, great idea... (Score:1)
The more you send them clothes, the more jobs you take from their tailors and textile workers.
They don't need handouts, they need real economic reform, and education has to be at the center of that.
The world doesn't need welfare nations.
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The more you send them clothes, the more jobs you take from their tailors and textile workers.
They don't need handouts, they need real economic reform, and education has to be at the center of that.
The world doesn't need welfare nations.
The more you send them medicine, the more you damage their pharmaceutical industry?
Tough love doesn't help anyone during a famine or epidemic. It just gives people like you an excuse to be sel
Where are the electronic books coming from? (Score:2)
Re:Where are the electronic books coming from? (Score:1)
Once one book is written, with electronic books, everyone can share it. Try doing that with dead trees. That is why Kenya needs eBooks, rather than the equivalent number of books written by foreigners. (Which they get as well on an eBook) Also, they can start with a standard text, like a math book, and customize the word problems to fit local conditions.
"If you know the alphabet A-M, you can t
The e-books (Score:2)
But... (Score:2)
Do they run flash [weebls-stuff.com]?
Where can ya see lions? (Score:1)
Forget Norway!
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/ [weebls-stuff.com]
...But who will give the books away for free? (Score:1)
How open is this system? (Score:1)
Hm! (Score:2)
unsurprising in a country where electricity is a scarce commodity
So, how were they charging them?
Not the best use of money (Score:2)
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Re:What's with the OSS cheerleading ? (Score:2)
And if M$ had donated 57 PocketPC units to the students, then it would have been an example of M$ just trying to indoctrinate another set of future customers?
Uh, yeah, because now it's just OpenSource vendors trying to indoctrinate the students to become future customers? Oh wait, OSS IS FREE --- so your comment makes no sense whatsoever, and there is no contradiction/double-standards there.
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