Watch the First 9 Minutes of Serenity 426
An anonymous reader writes "As reported on FireflyFans.net, Universal is attempting further promotion of the sci-fi action film Serenity by making the first 9 minutes of the movie available online. The clip contains the opening backstory that sets an Alliance assassin on the trail of the ship's crew; it's an effective hook. On Yahoo movies, Serenity is ranked as the number 1 film currently in theaters and is hanging in a top-ten spot in the highest rated movies of all time. Slashdot has previously covered Orson Scott Card's review, the film's opening, an interview with Joss Whedon, and much more. It's all out of love..."
Awesome (Score:2, Interesting)
The beginning is good (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The beginning is good (Score:2)
Re:The beginning is good (Score:3, Informative)
You didn't miss it, they just didn't mention it.
It was the subject of much debate amongst fans before the movie, in fact. I thought they had more than one solar system, since it was implied in the way they talked about systems and whatnot, but, seems not.
Re:The beginning is good (Score:5, Informative)
I was butting my head on this for a while: after all, if the new solar system was colonized by Earth, then - bloody hell! - they had interstellar drives. For hundreds of millons of passengers.
But the series never shows anyone making star hops. They're all fusion rockets, and they only travel a few million miles, spending weeks or days en route. Probably deuterium/tritium fueled.
What happened to the mighty starships? What happened to the Terran supertransports? And didn't anyone read "The High Frontier" on Earth? Why go to another star and terraform planets when you can stay around our solar system and build land areas in habitats with congomerate land area millions of times that of Earth's surface?
The confusion rattled me after I figured out that Serenity wasn't a starship. If the author can't figure out the difference between a solar system, a group of stars WITH solar systems, and a galaxy of Earths, he ain't writing science fiction -- he's using the form instead. Sci-Fi instead of SF. With the caveat that his universe doesn't make any sense.
However, I ignore all that and love the movie. I just wish they taught astronomy in writing classes.
Re:The beginning is good (Score:4, Insightful)
I suppose it makes things a little better that these planets have many moons, all of which are terraformed and include artificial gravity (I know, hard to imagine - and all conveniently have the landscape of southern California). But there are laws of physics (maybe math, actually) about how close together planetary orbits may come in a stable solar system. There just can't be many orbits in the habitable zone. (Anything outside of the bands of Venus and Mars would not look like California no matter how good the terraforming is.) So why aren't the outer planets cold?
You're right, many other details are thought out, but Whedon is delinquent on giving us a map of the settled planets, or even a sketch. I imagine he wants to, but can't make it fit with the requirements of the narrative. What the narrative requires is something analogous to an archipelago on the sea - a space that is densely populated with many moons and planets. That's just not gonna happen; the more you say about it, the sillier it would sound, so Whedon just ingnores the subject. If I were him, I'd have been more direct about it up front, bit the bullet on superluminal travel, and made Serenity an interstellar ship. This would explain the huge interstellar migration you mention... The downside is that Serenity seems too crappy to be superluminal... but then again, the Millennium Falcon was also a piece of crap and nobody had problems picturing hyperdrive. But there is something weird about people who can afford an interstellar spaceship but still use revolvers to shoot each other. Yes, a quirk of the show.
So with the solar system thing, I think Whedon is digging himself deeper, and he should have worked out these things when he first conceived the show. Absent that, he just shouldn't address the issue. Anything he says about this will only make matters worse.
Aftermath? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Aftermath? (Score:2)
"I have to wonder, if this works to boost revenue for Serenity, what will the MPAA's response be? It only took them, what, ten years to realize the internet can help them?"
What an interesting thing to say. I remember that Strange Days [imdb.com] had a rather kick-ass web site for its time... and that was in 1995. Since then, I've lost count of the number of well-executed Internet ad campaigns I've seen for films. I know that many Slashdotters may have only been on the Internet for a few years so this sort of th
The Firefly TV episodes matter more (Score:4, Informative)
The movie depends quite a bit on the overall backstory from the one season of the television show. If you haven't seen the show, it doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense.
Luckily "Firefly - The Complete Series" is available on DVD.
Re:The Firefly TV episodes matter more (Score:2)
Re:The Firefly TV episodes matter more (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:The Firefly TV episodes matter more (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The Firefly TV episodes matter more (Score:2, Informative)
What the Heck (Score:5, Informative)
Re:What the Heck (Score:2, Funny)
On a more useful note, can someone mirror this or set up a tracker for us pinko-commie types?
Re:What the Heck (Score:2)
Re:What the Heck (Score:2, Funny)
Old school!
Re:What the Heck (Score:5, Funny)
Me included though :\
Re:What the Heck (Score:2, Funny)
Step(s) to prevent slashdotting:
1.)Don't support linux
Re:What the Heck (Score:4, Insightful)
You probably meant the Windows version of Firefox. You see - I'm using a PC too. It runs Linux.
Re:What the Heck (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What the Heck (Score:3, Informative)
No Linux support for this? (Score:3, Interesting)
Is it so hard to use a standard media type?
Why do companies feel like it's right to mave stuff like this that's actually MORE trouble to make incompatible with non-MS/Mac systems?
Seriously. I just do not get this mindset.
Re:No Linux support for this? (Score:2)
Relax. You'll probably see it again this weekend anyway. Send the link to your Windows using friends.
Re:No Linux support for this? (Score:2)
Re:No Linux support for this? (Score:2)
Worked fine on my G5. (1.6Ghz)
Anything unusual about your sound?
Re:No Linux support for this? (Score:2)
If he's an idiot, you are a sexpot.
Go get the figures for desktop operating systems that support MPEG4. Wow - 100%. So, they could have picked a format that has both *more* coverage and is technically just as good. Instead they chose something that is arbitrarily restricted. Smart move.
Re:No Linux support for this? (Score:3, Insightful)
But that still doesn't justify the extra expense. They went to all that trouble to write some kind of Java player or weird web thingie (and then put in extra code to "support" certain OSes), when all they had
As long as they're making Serenity available... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:As long as they're making Serenity available... (Score:2)
Re:As long as they're making Serenity available... (Score:2)
Do "better" formats like XVID or Quicktime play out of the box on around 90% of the target audience's computers? If not, that's your answer.
Statistics, Internet fans and damn statistics (Score:5, Insightful)
Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:5, Insightful)
As with the majority of slashdot posters on here, I am a total sci-fi junkie, but does Serenity really qualify to be within the top 10 movies of all time? Granted, this is a yahoo poll and probably was saturated by people so desperate for anything with a futuristic theme they're willing to hump a movie which was written by a guy who make a witch turn lesbian in another show with declining ratings.
I seriously cannot understand what is so great and original about this movie. Sci-fi meets cowboy theme has already been stretched in 26 episodes (plus a movie) of Cowboy Bebop.
I don't even see Bladerunner on this Yahoo top 10 of all time list. Dune? Seriously, are you going to tell me Serenity is better than Bladerunner?
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:4, Funny)
Yep.
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
Worse than that... (Score:2)
There - I've said it - let the pillory | hanging | pressing begin.
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:3, Interesting)
Yep."
Serenity is not ambitious enough to be in that sort of company. I'm a big fan of the Firefly TV series but this movie is a serious step down from the TV series. The writing and acting were much better in several episodes. I get the feeling they might have felt it necessary to dumb it down for a movie audience. It is loud and fast with lots of fighting action but that was only one aspect of the TV episodes. I hope they are successf
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:4, Insightful)
Serenity and Bladerunner are both great movies, but I don't think they reach the same goals as to be ranked on just one scale.
Re:Originality is a horrible comparison (Score:3, Interesting)
Orgiinaility is a horrible way to compare the greatness of works. I think it was Orson Scott Card that wrote if you worry about duplicating a specific story you will never get anything done. Ironically, after searching throuwh wikipedia for Flash Gordon I noticed that George Lucas used that as his inspiration for Star Wars. Remember
Re:Originality is a horrible comparison (Score:2)
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
As for Cowboy Bebop, I can't say. I don't like Cowboy Bebop.
Best 10 movies of all time? Hardly. There are tons of
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
Just because you put the word "Cowboy" in the title, doesn't make it a Western.
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
Firefly and Cowboy Bebop have a similar setting but have very different moods and themes.
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
(this is
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
Better then Dune? listent to two comic book geeks argue over which who is better, superman or batman would be better then Dune.
The frontier theme has been done in a lot of sc-fi, so what? the characters are no where near the same, either is the 'world' in which they are base, the stories are different, and the character interaction is different as well.
other then that, yeah there practically the same.
it's like saysing, I've seen one
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
Re:Good movie, but #10 all time movie? (Score:2)
I think your argument is an emotional one. I'd love to hear your points outlining why you think Serenity is better than Blade Runner.
meh (Score:2, Informative)
Mod me as a troll if you like but I know there are a few people that think like this so *shrugs*
9 minutes? (Score:2)
i never understood the joss whedon cult (Score:2, Insightful)
yeah, serenty is ok, but it's no alien or blade runner
you may now mod me into oblivion for not blindly stating my allegiance to the high school clique and mindlessly jumping on the hype machine
so sorry, pfffffft
Re:i never understood the joss whedon cult (Score:2)
-Sean (OutdoorDB.org [outdoordb.org] - The Outdoor Wiki)
Re:i never understood the joss whedon cult (Score:2)
And all recent star trek movies more or less flopped (and star wars is a money machine by itself)
(compare that to the relativly big success of the alien movies, event horizon, pitch black, ect (the non-non-horror SF stories ))
I seriously think your statement isnt true
Re:i never understood the joss whedon cult (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, I think the facts disagree with you [movieweb.com]. Reread my original post.
Re:i never understood the joss whedon cult (Score:2)
Re:i never understood the joss whedon cult (Score:3, Insightful)
As if the "Star Wars fare" that's been coming down the pipe lately was the greatest sci-fi ever. Yeah, of course I loved A New Hope, and Empire Strikes back, but then it all started going downhill from there... and I think Serenity's better than any one of them. WAY better than Attack of the (yawn) Clones. Jeez, I'll never get those two hours back.
Re:Mod parent up please. (Score:2)
You don't like Joss Whedon. We got that with your last post.
Re:Mod parent up please. (Score:2)
Have you seen Battlestar Galactica? Either the mini-series or the show? Because that's the best sci-fi I've seen, period. Firefly is good, don't get me wrong - I like it, a lot, but Battlestar Galactica completely destroys it.
If you think we're in a dry spell, maybe you should look a little harder.
Meanwhile, in Universal HQ... (Score:5, Funny)
Henchman : Ok, but how much do we charge them for it ?
Universal Exec : Nothing, we just let them see the first...
Henchman : Ok, popups ? Right, popups ?!
Universal Exec : No, we will just let them see...
Henchman : I got you : Ads, right ? Banners !
Universal Exec : No, we will JUST let them see the first nine...
Henchman : Ok, but we HAVE to annoy them somehow... How about some proprietary plugin instead of going for the normal formats ? Let's screw a littlebit with their minds before they get their free content.
Universal Exec : Fuckit, it's lunchtime.
Re:Meanwhile, in Universal HQ... (Score:2)
Re:Meanwhile, in Universal HQ... (Score:2)
Optimist.
They're so close ... just don't understand. (Score:2)
Cluetrain coming? Someday soon.
Just finished watching (Score:5, Informative)
The only shame I feel about this movie is that it is a gem released during such a mundane (IMHO) year for theatrical releases, so although it stands out from the 2005 crowd, that in itself unfortunately isn't saying much at all. Still, I'd recommend it very highly to those who havn't seen it yet. And if you are even a more moderate fan of the series, then what the hell are you waiting for? Gogogo.
One thing that did dissapoint me was the lack of the theme tune, unless I missed it, but I didn't hear even a snippet during the whole movie :-(
Re:Just finished watching (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Just finished watching (Score:2)
Honestly, I wasn't that impressed with the series, though it was decent TV fare.
Trailer Review (Score:2, Insightful)
since its the first 9 minutes exactly as seen in the theatre, it doesn't give away any of the rest. Rest assured, there are many good bits to be given away!
I hope this becomes a more common practice in the future; I believe this is a far better hook than a trailer.
Impressive (Score:2, Insightful)
digg.com (Score:2)
This same story was posted on www.digg.com about 30 hours before
That, and I'd bet that a lot of the
Plus, its not a linux-compatible stream.
WTF? (Score:2)
What if I'm using Safari with a popup blocker? What if reloading without blocking returns the exact same page? Why can't you can't provide a plugin-free experience like Google Video? Wankers.
Good thing I've already seen the movie and don't need enticing.
Re:WTF? (Score:2)
Why can't you can't provide a plugin-free experience
Dammit, I actually previewed the damn comment. Honest!
Re:WTF? (Score:3, Informative)
Worked fine on my Safari with popup blocking. Hell, I actually had to use Safari because it wasn't working right on Firefox for Mac.
Special 16 year old girls (Score:4, Interesting)
I haven't really seen this discussed anywhere. On the other hand, I haven't looked very hard.
Just curious.
Re:Special 16 year old girls (Score:2)
Maybe that is what you find disturbing...
Re:Special 16 year old girls (Score:2)
I think the fact that they're not real is more telling. And not just not real as in fiction, in some cases, but not real as in not real even in the not real fiction. Oh, never mind...
Re:Special 16 year old girls (Score:4, Informative)
Wheldon is a master story teller, and I am really enjoying his work. I saw Firefly last weekend and immediatly went on a hard target search for Firefly this weekend. Watched the entire series, and am blown away. I never know TV could be this good. Too good to continue I guess :(
Re:Special 16 year old girls (Score:4, Insightful)
Anyway, as long as the woman is physically mature, I don't think the guy is a pedophile, and the obsession doesn't seem harmful to society -- as long as he can wait two years.
Re:Special 16 year old girls (Score:3, Interesting)
Of course, if everyone who'd had sex with an underaged partner were actually found out and prosecuted, the US would just become a giant prison complex full of lifers. I'd not be in there with the majority of y'all, but that's because I had a
Re:Special 16 year old girls (Score:2)
then watch the rest of it (Score:2, Funny)
Java delivery (Score:2)
It worked perfectly on my WindowsXP machine AND my friend's OS X machine. How about Linux? Has anyone tried running it on their Java-enabled phone?
Re:Java delivery (Score:2)
On my box it dies with this: I'm quite sure I don't have a 'MSJVM'... thankfully.
Correction - United Int'l Pictures, not Universal (Score:5, Interesting)
Correction to the submission: this is being released by United International Pictures [uip.com], the company responsible for international release of Serenity. Since UIP is partially owned by Universal, it might be seen as semantics, but UIP has a distinct marketing plan for the movie from that of Universal.
It's also important to note, because it might seem like odd timing for Universal to release new marketing materials for a movie already released - it might even seem a move of desperation to get "butts in seats" before it leaves theaters... but it makes more sense as new marketing released by UIP for a movie they are opening today or within the next few weeks.
Nice hook (Score:2, Funny)
Best. movie. ever.
Not too shabby... (Score:2)
"Pyxis Supply Station" - hunh. Glad to see Sony's two pound, First Generation GPS receiver design is finally being put to use. Glad I held onto mine.
Stupid: Target audience, and I can't play this. (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm one of those people who reads slashdot regularly, runs linux on his computer, and has NOT watched the show Firefly and did NOT go see the movie the week it opened.
However, I do love sci-fi, I just never took the opportunity to get hooked on this show. (I have enough vices already!)
In any case, look: Advertising, after a movie has been released, is to encourage those who have not seen the movie or may not have been following it so closely but who _might_ be interested, to fork out the $10 and go check it out. I admit, the trailer was sort of interesting but nothing that really grabbed my attention. Mostly it's the hype I've read on this website that has kept me interested, and is what is making me want to go see it. I have no idea about the Firefly story, but since everyone seems to think it's so amazing I might be pursuaded to go see it, especially with a little enticement like showing me the first few minutes of the movie.
Now. I run linux. So I can't watch this "teaser". Let me repeat: I AM PRECISELY THE TARGET AUDIENCE for this advertisement, and yet the message I get when I actually make the effort of clicking on the link and going to the website to check it out is: You can't watch this, your operating system is not supported. This is not something that happens by accident. They are ACTIVELY dissuading linux users from watching the teaser. I had to click "view source" just to find the file, and I'm downloading it, but I realize it's very unlikely I'll be able to watch it. They are publishing in some stupid non-standard format. And for what reason? I can't think of a single one. They are giving it away for FREE, why would they be worried about copyright? At the VERY least, if you don't want to get into weird IP battles by using "frowned upon" formats like DivX (though I don't see the problem with OSS formats like Xvid), publish it in straight MPEG, even if it's low resolution, but my goodness, don't DENY your target audience the ability to watch it.
Whoever is in charge of marketing has no clue.
As it is, I still don't know if I'll bother going to see it, especially considering how expensive the theaters are these days and how little time I have.
If only I could watch the teaser...
It finished downloading by the time I typed this out. And look, mplayer and VLC are both out of luck.
Re:Stupid: Target audience, and I can't play this. (Score:5, Interesting)
Whoever is in charge of marketing has no clue.
Which one is it: a carefully designed conspiracy against Linux users, or the end result of a naive marketing department that doesn't understand that a large chunk of their target audience uses something other then Windows?
If I had to make a bet, I'd put my money on the latter. I highly doubt there's someone sitting around saying 'Yarr! Let's get those Linux users! That'll teach 'em for being different!". I'd guess the company providing the streaming video brought the claim of 'being able to provide high-quality on-demand streaming video to broadband Internet users using a unique process which makes unauthorized duplication near impossible' to the marketing department for the film. The 'Vividas' company most likely neglected the fact that they wouldn't be able to reliably accommodate users of alternative OSes, and it never occurred to the folks marketing the film to ask.
Now available in QT, WMV & RealPlayer (Score:5, Informative)
Are those more accessible to your OS?
Shocked by the video quality (Score:3, Interesting)
And to those complaining about free advertising: Let's complain instead about the granularity of SlashCode's RSS. There should be a seperate feed for each section, and some way of getting your customized index as a feed. Then you can easily exclude Sci-Fi stuff you think is so off topic.
But I digress. Everything the studio can do to help Sereinty/Firefly/Whedon Enterprises is good. I hope we see more quality naturalistic science fiction [wikipedia.org] like this and Battlestar Gallactica in the future.
Re:UNSUPPORTED? (Score:3, Interesting)
They're using "video/vividas" type files, which appear to require their own applet to run, presumably for DRM purposes. DRM on marketing videos?? why??
Re:UNSUPPORTED? (Score:5, Funny)
I mean, come on, it's not that hard! You must tightly control the distribution of free promotional downloads, otherwise filesharers will destroy your company!
Re:UNSUPPORTED? (Score:2, Informative)
Unfortunately, my operating system is unsupported, so they are safe this time.
Re:UNSUPPORTED? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla (Score:5, Informative)
Here's the direct link to the video file, although I still don't know of a Linux player that can handle it:
http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/viv/3Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla (Score:2, Insightful)
The nice thing about linux is that most distros come with the `file` utility. Just run it on the ".viv";
file
And it will tell you what kind of file you've got. Just change the extension...you know what, and I'm not in Linux right now to test, but most Linux movie players aren't dominated by file extention, unlike their Windows counterparts. If I were a betting man,
Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla (Score:4, Informative)
Already tried it; it just says 'data', so file doesn't know about it. I've tried it with a number of players so far (xine, mplayer, realplayer, even Windows Media Player running under Codeweavers' crossover) and none of them can read it.
My guess is that it's an mpeg wrapped up in some sort of drm that requires their encryption key to play it.
Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Site doesn't like Linux/Mozilla (Score:5, Informative)
1) The
2) There's a Java archive (jar) on the page that is automatically selected for Windows or OS X that has a file extension of
3) Inside the Java archive is a Java applet, PlayerApplet.class, that apparently does nothing but act as a proxy for another file inside the class, a DLL file in the Windows version, probably something similar in the Linux version
Looks like we're out of luck.
Dlugar
[1] There are actually four files which you can find here:
http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/p
http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/p
http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/p
http://video.vividas.com/CDN1/3929_Serenity/web/p
They're each JAR files (which are basically just zip files) so the more enterprising can download them and figure out exactly what they do.
Re:Torrent link for full TELECINE here (Score:2)
Re:STOP FREE ADVERTISING (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not saying you can't bitch, I'm just saying you're wasting your time, and unless you get some sort of thrill out of playing the down-modded martyr, in the end, it's not going to be worth it.
But, hey, do what you want.
I wish I had mod points to correct this... (Score:3, Interesting)