Star Trek Spoof Top Finnish Movie 242
Dotnaught writes to tell us Reuters is reporting that the science fiction spoof "Star Wreck: in the Pirkinning" has become Finland's most viewed movie. From the article: " [...] relying on free distribution over the Internet to reach more than 3 million viewers in less than two months. "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning" is a full-length feature in Finnish with English subtitles. It was made by a group of students and other amateur film makers with a bare-bones budget and a few home computers to create elaborate special effects."
Reuters forgot to mention (Score:3, Funny)
Avoiding the infamous Klingon Copyright (Score:5, Funny)
I thought it was some newly invented star trek language, to get around the copyrights on Klingon.
Klingon is copyrighted, yes?
although this is still a good tactic.
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:5, Informative)
If you don't stoop to watching foreign film and hence never heard of that, you could always try the Hollywood films from Finnish director Renny Harlin [imdb.com] which includes wonderful schlock such as Die Hard 2, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Deep Blue Sea, and The Exorcist: The Beginning.
Jedidiah.
Leningrad Cowboys Go America (Score:2)
How could you not mention Aki's greatest work, "Leningrad Cowboys Go America" ?
It was a big hit as far away as Australia, where the band actually did a concert tour - I swear!
It didn't hurt its popularity that the movie was mostly in English. Well worth watching, if you like twisted humour.
Re:Leningrad Cowboys Go America (Score:2)
Well, the movie was mostly in angsty, awkward silences, as befits any good Scandinavian movie production.
I agree with the poster, though; it's hard not to put Leningrad Cowboys somewhere in the top three of Finnish movies. Of course, the Kaurismäki brothers would probably fill the other two slots as well...
Re:Leningrad Cowboys Go America (Score:2)
They're not awkward, at least not to a finn. If you don't have anything to say, you don't have to and nobody expects you to.
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:2)
Today's cinematographers have forgotten how to tell a meaningful story. All they want is to convey their own feelings to the public.
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:2, Interesting)
I would like you to be a bit more elaborate on why you think The man without a past lacks content and has a meaningless story. I thought it was a great film with critique of the society and sharp observation about the human nature. It was about Life.
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:2)
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:2)
Ok, so I feel like nit picking today.
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:4, Interesting)
the most widespread language family in europe is the indoeuropean. the exceptions are: finno-ugric language family (finnish, estonian, sami, hungarian), and the basque language (isolated language, no family)
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:2)
Yeah; if you live in the UK and buy Gillette shaving foam (IIRC), you can compare the Finnish blurb with other Scandinavian languages- totally different. (No, I don't know why Gillette use the same supply of cans for Scandinavia and the UK(!))
Anyhow, what's up with all those double-dots above half the letters in Finnish? They're *everywhere*!
The supermarkets' own brands may be 2/3 of the price, but you don't get Finnish on the back
Re:Reuters forgot to mention (Score:3, Informative)
Ä or ä - like 'a' in 'at' .. um.. somewhat like 'u' in 'burden', but a bit higher sound.
Ö or ö - like
These dot's are called "umlaut" sometimes, coming from their German counterpart. Notice though, that they are not 'umlaut' in Finnish or any other nordic language, because they belong to the letter itself, they don't modify it. In Finnish they're called simply ä and ö, and the dots are ä-dots or ö-dots. Inf [wikipedia.org]
Two dots in English (Score:2)
It is used when two seperate vowel sounds are associated with the same letter.
Great movie (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Great movie (Score:2)
The movie has some great special effects, especially considering the budget, but lacks a good story.
It's supposed to be a spoof on Star Trek and Babylon 5 but fails to deliver any truely funny moments (finnish humor?). The best you can expect is a mild grin, but that's about as amusing as it gets.
Still, it's nice to see it, just to see what they did.
Re:Great movie (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Great movie (Score:2)
Re:Great movie (Score:2)
Re:Great movie (Score:4, Insightful)
There's a sudden shift in the quality of the film about twenty minutes in, when they complete the spaceship. Something radical must have happened at that point in making it as it becomes much more impressive and a lot funnier.
They get Sheridan and Ivanova down perfectly. I've only ever seen a couple of episodes of Star Trek (thought it was grim), but Babylon V is very well parodied. Love the boot screen, on the weapon too (blink and you'll miss it).
Lousy movie (Score:2)
It was an impressive effort, the special effects were well done for home computers, the costumes weren't bad, and the acting was vastly better than it is in most fanmade films. But the script. Gads. It was just plain awful, and utterly unfunny.
Torrent (Score:5, Informative)
http://www-uk.starwreck.com/torrent/star_wreck_it
Re:Torrent (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Torrent (Score:2)
Star Wreck... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:5, Informative)
Here's the link for their Foreign orders page: http://www-us.starwreck.com/dvd/index_e.html [starwreck.com]
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:2)
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:2)
PAL has more data fed at a different refresh rate than NTSC. It's not just a matter of the player - which will spit out a PAL signal - the display also has to be able to handle it.
I am told ... (Score:2)
But I woudn't know by first hand, we use PAL down here.
(*) = Never Twice the Same Color ?
Re:I am told ... (Score:2)
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:2)
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:2)
If you're only on dialup, then get it with one of the download apps with resume capabilities. It's really not that huge, and it's well worth the pain (believe me, I know, I was on dialup until just a couple years ago).
It being freely distributed, AND good, means you have a lot of different routes to find it and get it, even on dialup.
Just make sure to burn it to CD right away so you don't have to go thru the pain again
SB
Here's the Torrent (Score:2)
Torrent Link! [starwreck.com]
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:2)
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:4, Informative)
On any kind of broadband, this should run to your system super-fast. There are hundreds of seeders for this thing!
Even a 56k modem should get this chunked through within a day.
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:2)
Ummm.... no? (Score:2, Informative)
5.6 KB/s * (60 sec / 1 min)
336 KB/m * (60 min / 1 hr)
20.160 MB/hour
541.38 MB / 20.160 MB/hour = 26.8541666666 hours
Close, but not quite 24 hrs.
/I retain such esoteric knowledge from my 56Kb days
Re:Ummm.... no? (Score:2)
Re:Star Wreck... (Score:2)
Light Balls? I thought you said "Light Beers?" (Score:2, Funny)
The Twinklers!!!
Re:Light Balls? I thought you said "Light Beers?" (Score:2)
Better for cube adornment.
well done (Score:2, Funny)
Well done, this can only lead to more free entertainment.
Re:well done (Score:5, Informative)
Re:well done (Score:4, Informative)
New copyright regime (Score:2)
Old practice: Freedom of the press belongs to those who can afford one.
New practice: Freedom of the press belongs to those who can afford lawyers.
By the time an ordinary person has paid for a semi-competent lawyer to go through the motions of getting the case laughed out of court, it runs into life changing amounts of money for most folks. The worst case is if the other guy has a point to prove. Then you'll end up in court, and strategically speakin
Star Trek: New voyages is not a spoof (Score:2)
Re:well done (Score:4, Insightful)
An easy sentiment to applaud, but if said original works were so darn inspiring, wouldn't they manage to, oh I don't know, inspire more attention?
The flash-based Strongbad letters on homestarrunner.com managed to carve a niche mostly through word of mouth, as have various on-line comics such as Penny Arcade, Megatokyo, and Order of the Stick.
Now, the vast majority of people doing that sort of thing don't really manage to make any money (though Piro managed to quit his day job and live of t-shirt sales and book deals), but if something deserves attention in this content-starved age, it usually gets it.
Besides, spoof, fan-fiction, "shipper" stories, doujinshi, etc., are an art form in and of themselves. Some would argue that they are a more pure art from than the stories they are derived from, since they were motivated entirely by love of the subject matter and the desire to create, rather than to meet some TV station's shooting deadline and get a paycheck.
I'm not saying I'd rather read an erotic "Spuffy" fan fic than watch the final episode of Season 6, I'm just saying that there's really nothing that makes such a composition any better or worse, culturally speaking, than some starving writer's attempt at a first novel.
Re:well done (Score:2)
Re:well done (Score:2)
Re:well done (Score:2)
Slashdot timeline (Score:3, Informative)
Star Wreck 6 Finally Complete [slashdot.org] (August 22nd, 2005)
Star Wreck Released as Download [slashdot.org] (October 1st, 2005)
Re:Slashdot timeline (Score:2)
Just for all the "OMG ITS A DOOP" crowd, The
For example, I didn't see this when it was first posted, but now its in my bittorrent queue.
rock on
VERBS (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: Does this piss anyone else off? (Score:2)
Re:VERBS (Score:2, Funny)
Re:VERBS (Score:2)
Although these micro-headlines do give us such gems as these, lifted from James Taranto [opinionjournal.com]:
Re:VERBS (Score:2)
Re:VERBS (Score:2)
maybe cow on warl... (Score:2)
No, it not piss off me.
Re:VERBS (Score:2)
No, and I don't think it should, either. This headline is perfectly comprehensible without the verb, and I think in a headline, this omission doesn't even make it sound wrong. Not more wrong than "Star Trek Spoof To Become Top Finnish Movie", anyway, and that's a very common form for headlines to take.
I agree with the other guy ... (Score:2)
subject(star trek) verb(spoof) object(top finn movie)
instead of
subject(star trek spoof) predicative(top finn movie)
at first glance.
You are Right. (Score:2)
Re:VERBS (Score:4, Funny)
Ah, but part of the fun of English-language headlines is that so many words can be misread as verbs. As others have already pointed out, both "spoof" and "top" can be verbs in this headline (though an 's' should probably be added if you're American). Also, "Finnish" can be read as a mistyping of "finish" and treated as a verb, which is a standard pun in some circles.
One of my favorites, from around 15 years ago, was the newspaper headline "American Ships Head to Gulf". I just did a check, by googling for "Ships Head to Gulf", and found that at least one Australian and one Russian have also shipped their heads to the Gulf.
Or maybe I'm misreading them, and these three people shipped someone else's head to the Gulf
Re:VERBS (Score:2)
Just to be pedantic, I have to point out that "we're" is a contraction of "we are", and of course "are" is a verb.
Damn funny comment though.
Re:Understood 'to be' or not 'to be' (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Understood 'to be' or not 'to be' (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Understood 'to be' or not 'to be' (Score:3, Informative)
I prefer the term "English English", to further distinguish it from any peculiar usages in Wales and Scotland.
Re:Understood 'to be' or not 'to be' (Score:2)
woohoo (Score:3, Funny)
Re:woohoo (Score:2, Informative)
Not JUST a Star Trek spoof (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Not JUST a Star Trek spoof (Score:2)
Subtitled (Score:2)
Don't bother ordering if you're in the US (Score:4, Informative)
Better than the Turkish "spoof?" (Score:2, Funny)
Periode 1 - A German Trek Parody (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Periode 1 - A German Trek Parody (Score:2, Informative)
"Kirk" and "Spock" in this movie are a gay copule, and almost all supposed-to-be-funny scenes bear on that.
Re:Periode 1 - A German Trek Parody (Score:2)
Re:Periode 1 - A German Trek Parody (Score:2)
Well, not in the "at the end of the sentence", but the "menstruation" sense, which is a nod to the gay main characters.
I watched it a couple weeks ago (Score:3, Insightful)
The ending kinda disapointed me, but mostly because I wanted more! So overall I think I gave it a [5/10] because for an amateur production it's 10/10, but up against real actors and writers it's more like a 3/10. The special effects are top drawer though, in any league.
For other Star Trek spinoffs, look up http://www.newvoyages.com/ [newvoyages.com] they have two episodes of original Trek available for free by torrent. A third is on the way soon and features Star Trek TOS and Babylon 5 actor Walter Koenig [spelling?] - Chekov / Bester.
Re:I watched it a couple weeks ago (Score:2)
I don't think it's really quite fair to make that comparison. I've seen "professional" films that weren't this good, and they weren't even subtitled! This is one of those films that it pays to watch a second or third time to catch the little things. It's really quite funny. It also helps catching everything watching over because it is subtitled, after all.
There is a lot of humor here, including a lot of concept gags. The
Re:I watched it a couple weeks ago (Score:2)
Although, still, that's an arguable comparison, since you haven't qualified what you consider to be "real actors and writers".
More Realistic (Score:4, Insightful)
I've been working on just such a project, doing special effects for a fantasy film that's going to be shot in greece. The entire group consists of the writer/director, a camera/lighting guy, a makeup artist/costume designer, a set guy, 3 actors, an actress, 1 guy doing editing and postprocessing, and myself, doing CGI. That's 10 people, working on a budget of about 12,000. [shamless self-promotion] The script is quite a bit better than most of the dreck that comes out of hollywood- without having the pretentious or preachy feel that people (wrongly) associate with independent films. The makeup effects and costumes are top notch considering the budget (the makeup artist studied with Tom Savini of Night of the Living Dead fame), and the special effects are comming on quite nicely- there is a scene we affectionatley call "Helms Deep" with over 200 creatures that should be one of the main story arcs that I've been working on for about a month.
The movie is going to be released free on the net, with DVD sales hopefully making up for the financing that's come out of pocket from a lot of the people who've been working with the project.
I think this is the reason the MPAA is afraid of Peer to Peer networks, and the internet in general. People now have the ability to make and distribute movies all across the globe for less than the catering budget of most big hollywood movies. It's not that they are afraid that people are going to pirate their movies, it's that they are afraid people are going to make the obsolete.
Re:More Realistic (Score:2)
Is there a website with more information? I tried your profile home page address but it's busted.
Re:More Realistic (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm pretty sure this goes for the RIAA. It's probably true that the spreading of music that P2P has brought about increases the popularity of the music, and it's not hard to imagine this would lead to increased sales of RIAA-endorsed media.
However, movies are different. A movie costs much more to make than a song, and ends up being watched far less often than most s
Re:More Realistic (Score:3, Insightful)
In fact, I'd guess that over 60% of your 100 million dollar budget is not spent on physical consumables.
So... doing the math... thinking about how hollywood folks are different than skilled programmers... I can't see why outsourcing is not a severe threat to them too. There are millions of talented people who can make increasingly high quality entertainment for less and less money every day. At the very least, I can't see
Also rips on B5 a lot (Score:2)
If you haven't seen it, do. CGI is pretty damn good for a project with basically no budget.
The subtitles are kind of bad, but in a funny kind of way.
Previous top movie (Score:3, Informative)
About Star Wreck being the most popular: can you really compare a strictly finnish audience with a potentially global audience? Excluding Aki Kaurismäki's Man without past, this is one of the few finnish movies, that have ever got any international distribution.
Re:Previous top movie (Score:2)
"Basically it's a story of a finnish army unit in second world war, and it's point is to tear down the myth of clean and heroic finnish soldier."
I haven't seen the movie, but the book does have its fair share of heroes despite not being idealized.
"About Star Wreck being the most popular: can you really compare a strictly finnish audience with a potentially global audience? Excluding Aki Kaurismäki's Man without past, this is one of the few finnish movies, that have ever got any international distr
Call me shallow but... (Score:2)
anywhere on the site.
Re:Call me shallow but... (Score:2, Funny)
(Now I wonder why I didn't get it yet, must be all that spam clogging down the Internet.)
Cheers
Loved it (Score:2)
Got quite a few laughs from a tough critic I know.
Also it is inspirational to see a small group with basically no budget or resources produce something so epic.
Check their Webhost (Score:2)
01.10.2005
Magenta hosts one of the biggest online-movie distributions in the Internet history
Read more [magenta.net]
08.10.2005
Star Wreck goes over 1M downloads
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21.11.2005
Star Wreck takes the lead as the most watched finnish film of all time!
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Today [21.11.2005] Magenta has distributed 2.948.462 copies of Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning globally.
i watched the trailer (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Now downloading.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:That movie was cool (Score:3, Funny)
Zero budget?
Well, hollywood has just informed me it cannot be good without a budget in the millions!
Re:So happy I could make this lame joke... (Score:2, Funny)
Hope be with ye,
Cyan
An objective assessment of this movie (Score:3, Informative)
The lead character is a sterotyped Finnish youth, i.e. loud, half-drunk, not very subtle nor very polite.
The plot is not that clear, but the special FX are not too bad.
Should you ever make the mistake to consider that this is a typical Finnish movie, please don't: go look for movies made by Aki Kaurismäki and see by yourself what a master Finnish director can produ
Re:GayNiggers from OuterSpace (Score:2)
Re:But where is the next Star Trek movie? (Score:2)
I haven't seen it yet, but it could be much better then the actual movie.
I was always of the opinion that ST7 should have been cut right after Kirk dies (the first time). (This would be the prequel then).