

Next Generation of MP3 Glasses 178
Doggie Fizzle writes "A review of the Nu Tech Dark Shadow 256MB MP3 Sunglasses shows one of the latest attempts to multitask common items, whether we want it or not. The Oakley Thumps may have come first, but at 3x the cost of Nu Tech Dark Shadows, even frugal geeks can look smooth... From the review: "I am a sucker for any tool or gadget that tries to combine more than one use or function into a single item, but I also have learned from experience that many times such items fail to perform well at any of the tasks they were designed to do.""
obviously (Score:5, Funny)
Obviously not a Unix person.
From the slashdot article:
or he'd already have known:
Re:obviously (Score:3, Insightful)
"Dude, you just sat on my glasses!"
Re:obviously (Score:3, Interesting)
Sunglasses are a poor substitute for a good pair of goggles.
If you really want music while you're on the mountain, lots of helmets now have built in headphones [skiingmag.com] (some of them have Bluetooth as well)
Of course, you need to tap something into the headphones, but there are several ski shells that are designed with iPod's in mind . . . some even have controls built into the sleeves [burton.com]. Hell, there are even ridiculously expensive coats with built in iPods [spyder.com].
If you don't have t
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Overdressing, snow on your goggle vents, neck gaitors, can all fog up your view, even if you have fancy ass anti-fog goggles [bolle.com].
Re:obviously (Score:2)
However, if you don't wipe ALL the cream/soap off carefully, your breath will cause a wet film to develop.
Works great in my motorcycle helmet.
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For me the next generation MP3 player isn't so much a player but a few USB ports in my car. If done right any MP3 player would work with my car stereo, my phone and PDA could be charged w/out a cumbersome power adaptor, and I would only need to keep a few cab
Unix highly misunderstood as a child (Score:3, Insightful)
You know, I think people misunderstand the unix philosophy sometimes. It's not that apps do one thing. It's that they're modular, and *interoperate*.
A compiler doesn't do one thing: it does lots of stuff: parsing, translating, optimising, retargetting. But it does that by using other subtools, and by communicating with other parts of the system and libraries etc.
Likewise, there's no reason an app or tool can't play music and videos and download podcasts all in one slick interface. It's just that it
Hmm (Score:4, Funny)
Very annoying... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Very annoying... (Score:2, Insightful)
i see two main problems with this:
1. its on a pair of sunglasses - ok its great for outdoors when its sunny, but if you either wear glasses, or spend a good deal of time indoors, or out at night, you can't really use them
2. you can't change the earbuds. what happens if you want to replace them with better sounding ones? i guess you could cut the cord and attach new ones onto it, but i'm sure not everyone's willing to perform the surgery.
now if the mp3 player component was detacheable, or if the frame co
Re:Very annoying... (Score:2)
If the mp3 player was detachable, then you'd just have some sunglasses, earbuds, and an mp3 player. You can already get that if you zip-tie the earbuds to the sunglasses earpieces. I'd take a picture and make a fake product page if I was as bored as I'd like to be...
Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:5, Interesting)
Why is Bluetooth such a relative failure? My PDA has bluetooth and I use it ALL the time. The problem is that I don't see very many viable, workable, user friendly bluetooth devices.
If I want an MP3 player, what I'd really want is a portable deposit/store/memory bank (SD card is fine), a very tiny MP3 player and a bluetooth set of headphones. I can't find anything of the sort that WORKS.
My bluetooth headset for my phone has TERRIBLE sound quality. The bandwidth for bluetooth should allow for a decent sound in stereo, but the mono headset is just crap. Can anyone recommend a good stereo set of bluetooth headphones that work?
I believe the future of portable music will probably not be the MP3 player, especially as network availability becomes more pronounced. I use Shoutcast on my PDA phone to stream my entire MP3 collection from home as I want to. GPRS at 33.6K is fairly crap quality, but when I am in range of a public WiFi router (my phone has WiFi as well) I can get pretty awesome quality streaming. Nowadays I am near a public WiFi router probably 15% of the time, compared to 5% last year.
Will we even NEED storage or a large bulky scratchable iPod when we can stream terabytes of music in a few years?
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2, Funny)
I like the way you think. But I have to ask, why not just build the entire music player into the headsets? Why two pieces with the complicated bluetooth system connecting them?
How long until Apple/Napster/Yahoo comes out with a music player that does this? Think about it, the player automatically connects to iTunes (or whatever) over WiFi, logs into your account, and starts streaming music. That would be sweet.
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
For the same reason headphones with integrated FM radios don't sell like hotcakes. Bulky, hard to upgrade, short battery life, expensive for manufacturers to offer choices of headset/player option, etc etc.
Tom
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
The FCC just announced it will allow serving channels a la carte on cable. What a STUPID STUPID STUPID regulation we've had to deal with for decades. Guess what? Channels a la carte is so 1990, too!
People are getting used to on demand everything. On demand opeds via blogs, on demand news via the web and SMS, on demand coupons, on demand everything. Storing information that is identical between millions (or even dozens) of users when information can be shared can show a huge sa
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
The whole process of sending and receiving of IP packets is not up to snuff to be called real-time and the problem is not with the protocol itself. You need
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
Because sometimes you might want to just listen to your music through your headphones. Or maybe even broadcast it to multiple listeners in a small area. The holy grail here isn't a gadget but a modular system that can adapt to your needs simply by buying another module and plugging it into the system.
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
But I have to ask, why not just build the entire music player into the headsets?
Because you might want to replace the headphones at some point. And not just to upgrade to a better headphone. If the MP3 player had bluetooth, then it could send audio to your headphones, your ski/motorcycle helmet, your car stereo, etc. These are relatively inexpensive interfaces -- the MP3 player itself (and the music it holds) it not.
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:3, Funny)
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Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
I you mean by streaming terabytes of information at any given time at any given place in the world, then no.
But that might be more than a few years.
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:3, Interesting)
My mouse broke the other day and I drove out to several computer stores looking for an instant replacement. Since I just bought a new bluetooth laptop I figured I'd snag a bluetooth mouse.
I found a TON of wireless RF mice, but only TWO bluetooth mice... and they both sucked.
WTF? I don't want a stupid RF receiver hanging off the side of my laptop. Moreover, I don't need anymore RF devices in my life.
I saw a slew of mice touting "2.4ghz" RF
Re:Old technology, how about something newer? (Score:2)
I saw a slew of mice touting "2.4ghz" RF .... considering that I'm already having interference problems with my 2.4ghz WiFi router 2.4ghz phone, 2.4 ghz game controllers, etc... why would I want a 2.4ghz mouse?
So whats this new non-2.4GHz bluetooth of which you speak?
Not bluetooth, but... (Score:2)
Sorry... (Score:4, Interesting)
Sorry I don't share your enthusiasm, but I don't think you will look smoother, only geekier. I am geeky enough and I don't want to wear it on my face. Besides, the audio actually sucks....what, I had to try it on...common gimme a break!
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patents (Score:2)
so depending on how these are sold, it's very likely to be patent infringement.
and no the original vendor does not have a license from oakley.
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Solar battery? (Score:5, Insightful)
Since we're integrating gadgets... (Score:2)
Seems like this would be the PERFECT product to have a rechargeable solar battery!
Since we're integrating gadgets, we could place small solar panels on a hat and attach the hat to the glasses. The panels would charge the battery while providing additional sun protection, and it wouldn't look much dorkier than the Oakleys. (How could it?)
The silly things is, now that you've read that, some of you are thinking "Is he serious??" and some of you are thinking "What a great idea!". I'm sure you'll ident
Re:Since we're integrating gadgets... (Score:5, Funny)
Perhaps you could add an layer of tinfoil for the paranoid, and to maximize energy use, mount a small propeller on the hat that would generate wind power when the person is in motion!
In case you didn't realize (Score:5, Insightful)
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I don't think it is attainable, I don't want glasses that protrude into my ear canal.
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Re:In case you didn't realize (Score:2)
Now if they could make THAT as small as an eraser head I'd be all over it.
girls (Score:5, Funny)
Just great. (Score:5, Insightful)
Croakies help with that (Score:2)
But yeah, I lose sunglasses all the time, mainly because I forget and wear them in from my car and then leave them. On the other hand, I'm happy with el-cheapo sunglasses, so it's not annoying unless my car run
And what's more... (Score:2, Funny)
Not for geeks (Score:5, Insightful)
... even frugal geeks can look smooth...
These are not for geeks, as can be shown by your idiodic comment (who "looks smooth" with a huge box attached to the side of your head?). They are for bikers, runners, and people involved in sports. They are not for a WOW playing geek in his mom's basement.
Ever try to bike through traffic while screwing around with a headphone cable? Probably not. If you did then you would see that there is a huge market for these kinds of devices.
Re:Not for geeks (Score:2)
It was designed as a single piece that slipped over the ear and basiclly looked like one of the bluetooth headsets(without the microphone) but a little bigger. It had a decent sounding speaker that while close to ear so you could hear did not put a mini plug in so that most outside sound was blocked.
Re:Not for geeks (Score:2)
Given the number of jackasses I see weaving through traffic while talking on their phones, there probably is. But at least once a month I hear that click up ahead and lean left just in time to avoid getting doored. Losing that extra quarter-second of reaction time (and possibly my life along with it) isn't worth another few minutes
Re:Not for geeks (Score:2)
Sure -- I'd be doored every week if I didn't look into cars as I go. But sometimes I don't see them (SUVs, tinted windows, they're low in the seat, or my attention was simply diverted for a second) and I would never, ever give up any warning I can get.
Re:Not for geeks (Score:2)
I probably wouldn't wear the thumps just walking around town. That seems a little too geeky. Besides, in that situation it's nicer to be able to navigate through menus on a screen. But having music with no headphone cords when doing something athletic is a cool enough idea that I got another gadget for just that pu
Re:Not for geeks (Score:5, Insightful)
No, because I'm not enough of an idiot to wear headphones while riding - hearing's important my friend.
Re:Not for geeks (Score:3, Informative)
Wearing sunglasses in your basement? (Score:2)
Re:Wearing sunglasses in your basement? (Score:2)
Only if they've got those uber-classy chick-magnet flip-up lenses.
Re:Not for geeks (Score:2, Insightful)
This makes sense (Score:2)
But really this is a good combo, since glasses have parts going right beside your ear anyway, so it's handy to have your MP3 player on your face protecting your eyes from UV damage, while damaging your ears with music that is too loud.
I can't even tell (Score:3, Funny)
i'm not even a parent, but it'll be like the world is full of teenagers
Plastic Pocket Protector (Score:3, Insightful)
2 cents,
Queen B.
Re:Plastic Pocket Protector (Score:2)
It would cover the big "L" that's already there.
Ha! :-) Hey, I tease.
But seriously, this is another solution looking for a problem, and the problem is "How can we get more people looking like dorks?"
I'll take "Marketing Tiger Team Atrocities" again for $200, Alex.
Re:Plastic Pocket Protector (Score:2)
Hmm... (Score:2)
The Oakley one might sell on the back of the name, there are brand snobs out there. I don't think I'd touch this thing with a bargepole though.
Re:Hmm... (Score:2)
But then again I do live in Houston, so I may be wrong on that one....
Sunglasses? (Score:3, Funny)
Oakley Thumps (Score:2)
didn't they have headphones awhile back that would work by sending vibrations directly to the head? I remember them being marketed for swimmers, I think. That would have been a much better use of the wraparound sunglasses - I wouldn't want to have to put things over AND in my ears, I want one or the other.
Oakley Razrwire (Score:2)
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Big deal (Score:2, Redundant)
Hmm, maybe an Americans with Disabilities Act lawsuit would help... :-)
Re:Big deal (Score:2)
So get a pair of prescription sunglasses and an iPod. Both Oakley & Maui Jim do prescription sunglasses, or you could drop $10 at Walmart on a cheap pair if you don't care about looking cool. Either way you'd look substantially less of a jackass than if you waste a court's time with a frivolous lawsuit.
Next Gen Version (Score:2, Troll)
Will come with a tiny display in front of each eye that will be able to show visulizations as well. Now that will be "cool". I can't wait for someone to bring out a half way decent VR headset for a reasonable price. Oh and make good use of it :o)
where? (Score:5, Funny)
Wireless Earbuds/Headphones (Score:2)
w00t! (Score:2)
Blog [nyud.net]
Podcast [nyud.net]
ipod shuffle almost does this (Score:2)
A few more years of Moore's law the price falls on the 100-song model to that of transistor radio and losing it doesn't matter. Else you keep the current price for 1000
Sweet merciful jesus those are ugly (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Sweet merciful jesus those are ugly (Score:2)
*pff pff Is this thing on?*
And In Other News (Score:2)
"It's a remarkable device." Wetsalot said. "It has 128mb of RAM, and in comes in ordinary and French Tickler. We're hoping to have the self-lubing model ready for 2006, though we've had some troubles with electrocutions. Another big innovation will be the ability to download songs via our patented USB butt plug."
$20 sunglasses + $20 player != $400 status item (Score:4, Insightful)
We want an Open Source sunglass+MP3 player!
Limited usefulness, but irreplaceable (Score:2)
Personally, I've been waiting on the Oakley Thump to come down in price to a level that didn't make me laugh. These may just be a good alternative.
What are they good for? well, bike riding, jogging, yard work...all of the things I like to have music for. I've developed a real distaste f
These communist marketeers (Score:2)
I hate this New Order Globalized Communism we found ourselves into. I hate being forced to buy gadget upon gadget some marketing department idiot thought of, whether I want it or not. I miss the days where we could freely choose where and on what to spend our money
bloody annoying (Score:2)
one of the latest attempts to multitask common items, whether we want it or not
Its not hard to understand that if you dont want it, dont buy it.
I for one certainly want one.
Sucker (Score:2)
I'd say if you buy something like sunglasses with an mp3 player built in, you definitely are a sucker.
Borg-ification (Score:2)
Did this really need to be done? I already feel stupid enough with my Bluetooth wireless headset hanging off one ear, do I need to combine that with a Cyclops-inspired visor ("Optic blasts... FIRE!!!")? Why not just go the route of building a computer system in a motorcycle helmet with a head's-up display, powering it with the heat generated by the brain, and call it done?
Are we all going to end up looking like the Borg?
Re:Borg-ification (Score:2)
God, I hope so!
$500?? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:$500?? Try $100 (Score:3, Informative)
$100 for decent sunglasses and an MP3 player really isn't bad. Too bad they're ugly. Shouldn't stop poker players from adopting them, however...
Personally I really only wear sunglasses while driving or as a p
Re:$500?? Try $100 (Score:2)
Re:$500?? Try $100 (Score:2)
Why, mr Officer, that's my hands-free telephone setup!
wearable computing battles aesthetic inertia (Score:3, Insightful)
One possibility is that the barrier of aesthetic conservativism will be bypassed only once the size gets down to the point where it really is vanishingly small-- where a pair of sunglasses (or a necklace, or a bracelet, or a ring) with a computer in it is indistinguishable from one without. The computers will simply disappear, and the state of the art for most people in wearable computing will be whatever level is the latest to be effectively vanished.
The other possibility (the one which I, and I suspect most of us here, would prefer) is that there will be some new product or class of products that will change the collective aesthetic of our society and allow wearable computers to fully flourish. One entirely reasonable route for such a transformative device would be a pair of computerized sunglasses. Sunglasses are the largest head-mounted device which is a currently acceptable fashion. They are also conveniently close to the ears and even go in front of the eyes; they're perfectly situated to talk intimately with a user.
In order to effect such a transformation, a product would have to be a brilliant innovation either technically or aesthetically-- and probably both. The product under discussion here comes nowhere close to achieving that prerequisite. My guess is that the first mass market computerized sunglasses will be ones which can project some sort of display onto the glass.
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Re:wearable computing battles aesthetic inertia (Score:2)
I wonder about this. Portable electronics (cell-phones,
Not for the English climate? (Score:2)
Well, I'm not impressed (Score:2)
The video-glasses won't be anymore distracting while driving than a cell phone, right?
This is just silly (Score:2, Insightful)
Obligatory George Carlin Quote (Score:2)
Re:Sounds neat (Score:2)
Some days comedy just writes itself (Score:2)
[insert your own drug joke here]
Re:Does it come with several replacement lenses? (Score:2)
How about a cell phone controlled vibe? (Score:2, Funny)