Futurama to be Resurrected? 508
KingDaveRa writes "Futurama could follow in the footsteps of Family Guy and re-enter production more than two years after it was axed. The animated series, brainchild of Simpsons creator Matt Groening, ended after four produced seasons amid lackluster ratings and broken scheduling on broadcast network Fox." From the Reuters article: "Reps for 20th Century Fox have declined to comment on the news, but Variety says initial negotiations have begun. If revived, it's unclear exactly which network would air the new episodes. While Fox housed the original series, the show found new life once reruns began showing on the Cartoon Network. Comedy Central subsequently snapped up the off-air rights and will exclusively air the repeats beginning in 2008. " A follow-up to Groening and Cohen's recent comments.
futurama (Score:5, Funny)
Re:futurama (Score:5, Funny)
Executive Beta: "Groening Cartoons Are Back!"
Ahhh, so many memories, so many strange fluids gushing out of patients' bodies....
Re:futurama (Score:5, Funny)
*Pushes button* And now they're gone.
Re:futurama... to smart for mass consumption (Score:5, Insightful)
Speaker: And the winner is ... Number 3, in a quantum finish.
Farnsworth: No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!
I'm sure the masses just don't get this kind of stuff. I'm surprised it made it as long as it did. But here's hoping *Raises glass of Benderbraü*
Re:futurama... to smart for mass consumption (Score:4, Insightful)
Sundays at 7 (6 central), perfect time for a show to fail, seeing as how Football always seems to run over that time.
Let's not forget fox's wonderfull advertising of the show aswell, I saw all of 2 commercials for the show during it's 4 year run.
Re:futurama... too smart for mass consumption (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:futurama... too smart for mass consumption (Score:3, Insightful)
Most of the humor in Futurama is of the "everybody gets it" variant. I can't immagine Zack Brannigan being anything less than hillarious even if you've never heard of Star Trek. And then you get the "No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it
Re:futurama (Score:4, Informative)
They'll have to re-hire a TON of people for this! (Score:5, Funny)
Can they find all these guys again? They could be anywhere! They may all have scheduling conflicts or something...
waiting for someone to state the obvious about this of course
I'm axing a question (Score:5, Funny)
Well, i'm waiting... what did they ax it?
Re:I'm axing a question (Score:2)
Re:I'm axing a question (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'm axing a question (Score:2)
Re:I'm axing a question (Score:3, Insightful)
They kept moving it around and putting it in times like after football games. I never knew if it was on or not, and just couldn't keep up with it. I'd set the VCR and it might or might not get it, even if it were on -- or might get the first x minutes of it because the game delayed it. I'd set the VCR for longer time, but that didn't always work because there were other shows I'd tape.
So, after a while, I couldn't tell if it was on or not and, after one time where
You got that right... (Score:4, Interesting)
Absolutely. Fox bungled Futurama like no other show before. Even my Tivo couldn't keep up with the continously changing schedule. The reason it got low ratings is that absolutely nobody knew when it was on.
When it started getting aired on Adult Swim, I was finally able to see a whole season or two of shows that I have never seen before. Not for lack of trying, mind you, it was just impossible to know when they aired them.
Family Guy, however, I never did understand why they cancelled it. It had a decent timeslot, and it was getting increasing numbers of viewers. They just shot it down before it built up a large audience. These days it seems like they cancel a show if it's not an instant hit, which is stupid, of course. Firefly was totally mishandled by airing the episodes wrong (you can't do that when there are story arcs and characters to be developed). They shot down Wonderfalls, a terrific show, after only 4 episodes that *nobody knew about* because they failed to advertise the thing!
Fox just has the most amazing bunch of idiots running the network. It's simply incredible how dumb these decisions are.
Re:I'm axing a question (Score:2)
that was fucking stupid.
Whereas your post was a model of brilliance, wit and insight.
Thank you ever so much.
Re:I'm axing a question (Score:3, Insightful)
Whereas your post was a model of brilliance, wit and insight.
News flash: his post was not intended to be a model of brilliance, wit, or insight.
What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:5, Insightful)
Or how about how they always pre-empt shows on Sunday evenings because of some dumb sports game that runs long. Hint, hint FOX. Sports games ALWAYS run long. Why don't you schedule some crap that nobody wants to watch so you can preempt that instead of the Simpsons.
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:2)
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:5, Interesting)
Here's a hint to programming managers.... Scheduling a sports event is a lot simpler than you think.
Step 1: block an extra hour for the sports event.
Step 2: book sports guests to fill that hour.
Step 3: when (not if) the game runs over, trim the time per person.
Step 4: if it runs -really- long, cut entire interviews.
Step 5: since you've probably paid to have interviews with those folks, tape the interviews off-air at the end.
Step 6: schedule a regular sports follow-up show later in the week and use the interviews taped after the game.
My suspicion is that the people doing the scheduling are just clueless. As I said in a brief speech to a room full of network execs, TV personalities, and communications faculty a few years ago, when you pay people peanuts like most TV stations do, the best and brightest tend to seek careers elsewhere.
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:2)
Why would Groening sign a contract that says he can't continue his show with another network if Fox cancelled it? Who would agree to that?
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:2)
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:2)
Re:What's to stop Fox from doing it again though? (Score:2)
My Little Girl Rejoices (Score:5, Funny)
Re:My Little Girl Rejoices (Score:5, Funny)
What's your daughter doing with a shiny metal ass [fzntsa.org]?
how not to attract an audience (Score:5, Insightful)
How much did the latter cause the former?
Re:how not to attract an audience (Score:2)
How would it do that? Download and install Windows XP on itself?
Re:how not to attract an audience (Score:3, Insightful)
And since I don't watch promos, I have no idea, really. If I didn't have Tivo, I would have missed the start of new episodes completely.
I like to point out that Adult Swim is currently whining about their poor numbers for Saturday night, even though they
Cue comments... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cue comments... (Score:2)
You must have missed the news, Farscape is back: Claudia Black Joins Stargate SG-1 [gateworld.net]
Sometime in Season 11, Ka D'Argo will replace Teal'c as the muscle / Apostrophied name character.
--I thought my post was funny. Your results may vary.
Re:Cue comments... (Score:5, Funny)
There's defintely an amount of naked hugging a dance pole that could get me to watch it, and I eagerly await the experiments to quantify this amount.
Sunday? (Score:2, Insightful)
I wish they could just resurrect shows on Cartoon Network. Unfortunately, that's probably not possible.
Re:Sunday? (Score:3, Funny)
fixed that for you.
Re:Sunday? (Score:2)
If Fox was smart, they'd kill off "The War at Home" and put King of the Hill in that place, making for a full 2 hrs of cartoons on Sunday nights. If games are running longer due to instant replay or, more likely, increased adverts, then they need to quit leaving
Re:Sunday? (Score:2)
Cool, but... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Cool, but... (Score:5, Insightful)
There are many, many more stories screaming to be told about the Futurama universe. Fox were fools to stop playing. We wanna hear how it ends!
Re:Cool, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
But the show's too linear, I think. I dunno. It's not like I
Family Guy is a show that can just pick up wherever it dropped off. Futurama, I'm not sure. And I say this because (in my opinion) Futurama is
Re:Cool, but... (Score:2)
Futurama: the Movie, however...
Re:Cool, but... (Score:2)
Probably not, and after the last episode it'd be very very sad if they were not a couple. You can just see the lame "Oh we were a couple but we broke up" thing...
Re:Cool, but... (Score:2)
How long? (Score:2)
Life... (Score:5, Funny)
Sure, but what about "Everybody Loves Hypnotoad?" (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Sure, but what about "Everybody Loves Hypnotoad (Score:2)
I for one.. (Score:2)
Re:I for one.. (Score:2)
Please include in any contract... (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't know how many times I sat down to watch a TiVo'd episode of Futurama, only to discover that what was recorded was the last 20 minutes of some stupid NFL game.
THAT is why it got poor ratings, because the FOX idiots stuck it in the 7pm Sunday death slot.
~Philly
Re:Please include in any contract... (Score:2)
Blame the guides as much as you blame the network.
Stick it at 8:30 PM slot! (Score:3)
Re:Please include in any contract... (Score:3, Insightful)
Family Guy, Futurama... (Score:3, Interesting)
Fox could save themselves a lot of trouble by just not cancelling these shows in the first place. Low ratings for a critically-acclaimed show? How about better promotion and not jacking around with the schedule? The word-of-mouth behind these programs makes people want to watch them, but that doesn't do much good if new viewers can't find the proper time slot.
At least (Score:2)
hmm (Score:3, Funny)
"wait, what did you say? I was too busy using this ray gun to look inside of stuff."
TV execs don't have a clue (Score:5, Insightful)
What do these shows have in common? These are great shows that were killed before their time due to poor decisions of TV execs. Everything from showing the series out of order to playing musical timeslots to abruptly killing the series without advanced warning, these shows were actively campainged against by the execs ( although I can't imagine why you'd want to mess up a money maker ).
This is why I don't watch TV anymore ( in fact, I don't own a TV ). I purchase DVDs, and I get to watch things ad free through liberal use of dvd decrypter and dvd shrink.
Re:TV execs don't have a clue (Score:2)
Re:TV execs don't have a clue (Score:4, Funny)
What, you thought I was going to jump on the "they all contain F!" bandwagon? Pfft.
Actually it's just one dumb assistant... (Score:3, Funny)
myke
Re:TV execs don't have a clue (Score:3, Insightful)
"Firefly, Farscape, Family guy, Futurama
What do these shows have in common?"
They all begin with F.
Seriously. Think about it. They're on the Fox network (begins with F) and they began with F, all of them. Doesn't it seem like a conspiracy to you?
Dissapointing (Score:4, Interesting)
There are certainly benifits to bringing old shows back, mostly a known audience and fewer development costs, but in terms of entertainment I find that these shows add very little.
I enjoyed Family Guy, but face the facts. It was cancelled because it pushed too hard (When you wish upon a Weintstein), and clearly they show was nuetered before it was let back on the air.
Re:Dissapointing (Score:5, Insightful)
Why wasn't Futurama First? (Score:3, Insightful)
what? (Score:2, Interesting)
What are you talking about? So you like Family Guy and Simpsons better. So what? Have you flipped through your cable channels lately?
Even if you like said shows better, Futurama is more than worth bringing back considering it's infinitel
Bender yes, Ditka no! (Score:2)
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/20/17542
I can't wait till the re-release, but how about pre-empting football for cartoons for a change? I'm sick of having to watch men tackle one another and grab each other's pigskins for an hour just to find at the last minute that Futurama's been dropped, postponed pretty much until the stupidbowl.
The main question (Score:5, Interesting)
Precedent for Firefly????????? (Score:2)
On the other hand, Firefly had an amazing half-season on Fox before it got cancelled. I personally think it was the best sci-fi show ever made, and I've seen many. So it's Firefly they should be talking about, not Futurama.
If I Only Had... (Score:3, Funny)
... my Fing-Longer, I could activate the What-If machine, and see what would happen if FOX brought back Futurama.
Instead, I'll just enjoy the syndication, instead.
HD? (Score:2)
For Proper Viewing, Take Red Pill Now (Score:2)
Motivation for Groening (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Motivation for Groening (Score:4, Insightful)
True, but he's found love on a Time-Warner owned network. I think [as] has given allowed Groening to give Fox their comeuppance and forced Fox to approach the negotiations with some humility.
Concentrating too much on the cast... (Score:2)
Quite honestly, who cares so much about the voice talent? I mean, it would be nice to have them back too, but it's the writers that matter. Family Guy had some voice changes in the early years and it wasn't a big deal... but they brought the show back from cancelation with sub-par writing and now it's really just fan service. The straight-to-DVD "movie" was es
Network failures, shark jumping (Score:3, Insightful)
* When a show's schedule changes, let one last show air in the old time slot, with "we're moving!" notices every time the show goes to or comes back from commercial.
* Support their own programming by cutting down on informercials and re-airing episodes of prime time shows late and early, with "if you missed it..." plugs.
* Put them online or on iTunes and let people share them x number of times, so they can spread shows around.
(As for Arrested Development, I love the show and have watched every episode numerous times. Afternoon Deelite is still hard to beat. At the same time, I wonder what kind of staying power it has or if it *should* go on for more than two seasons-- a lot happens on the show, so why does the end have to be doom and gloom? I'd love to a LITERAL shark-jumping moment (maybe Buster, in a leather jacket, loses a foot?) in the second to last episode, with Henry Winkler there to save the day (and get hired back as the family attorney).)
Reporters... Don't They Know Anything? (Score:5, Funny)
The series revolved around Fry, a pizza delivery boy, who is accidentally frozen for a thousand years. He wakes up in the year 3000 and befriends sassy one-eyed pilot Leela and cranky robot Bender, who both work for an intergalactic delivery service run by a distant nephew of Fry's.
Leela worked at the Chrionics lab, getting her job with the delivery service at the same time as Fry.
Bender was ending his carrier as a bender, rather drastically, when he met Fry. Also joining Planet Express at the same time as Fry and Leela.
My last shred of faith is shattered. How are we ever to trust the news media again!?
It's like that old story (Score:3, Funny)
Is any of this getting through to you?
Re:get some priorities, people! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:get some priorities, people! (Score:2)
In the future, everyone votes for mechaSharon. That is, until he's defeated by Richard Nixon in the year 3000.
Re:Eh, it's not worth it. (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe if Futurama is brought back and becomes a sucess, Fox can finally kill off the dying cash cow that is the Simpsons and put it out of its misery.
Re:Eh, it's not worth it. (Score:3, Interesting)
But I'm pretty stoked about the prospect of Futurama returning.
Re:Eh, it's not worth it. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Eh, it's not worth it. (Score:3, Informative)
As for comparing it to family guy, I'd argue that the genre is so vastly differe
Re:Eh, it's not worth it. (Score:2)
Re:Eh, it's not worth it. (Score:4, Insightful)
Simpsons has been on a very steady decline since about the time Futurama cmae out (even before than, perhaps). The SImpsons was very much running out of steam and while Futurama channeled some of its style and wit, it also brought a lot of fresh ideas to the table. I feel like the first few episodes are a bit slow, but after that I feel pretty much the entire run compares very favorable with even the Pax Simpsona (say seasons two through six).
As far as Family Guy is concerned, during both program's initial runs I might ahve agreed with you. But especially when they are put back to back, it is obvious how much intellectual humor is in Futurama. It ages well becaues in someways it is a standard sitcom, but with a sharp sense of humor and intellectual writing. Family Guy mostly relies on shock value and easy jokes. While they were funny, its not a show I personally can watch over and over again (and this is discounting the post cancellation Family Guy, which lacks even the heart of the original). Family Guy simply does not stack up well - Futurama's humor is smarter, better written, and ages much better. Care was taken with Futurama and it shows.
Furthermore, Futurama had some of the best animation on TV. Unlike the poor art of Family Guy (the creator of Ren and Stimpy lambasted FG for it's art style, saying any 10 year old can do it, according to FG's wikipedia page), Aqua Teen (which I love, but still, is no prize pig as far as animation is concerned), Futurama was extemely well done and even the first season looks good these days.
The Simpsons is a bit of a send up of the family sitcoms of its periods, while Futurama riffs on Friends and Seinfeld style shows of the 1990s. The sense of humor is far more bizarre, but its grounding in some sort of reality means it pairs up really well on adult swim with shows like Aqua Teen.
Pales in comparison? (Score:2)
My biggest problem is the bad comedy writing. MacFarlane's idea of a seguay(sp?) is to say "this is better than the time..." and queue random nonsensical joke skit. Do the "almost like that time.." thing 500000 mor
Re:Eh, it's not worth it. (Score:3)
Personally, I prefer Futurama over every show that you list there. The only one that comes close is the Simpsons, and that's tough to judge since the Simpsons has 15 (?) seasons worth of material.
Futurama was a strange show. It was always hilarious - but sometimes it was intelligent (Announcer: "And we have a quantum finish!" Professor: "No fair! You changed the outcome of the race by measuring it
Re:Evidently, you're in the minority. (Score:3, Interesting)
what about the rest?
Fry: What's so wonderful about Leela being normal? The rest of us aren't normal. And that's what makes us great. Like Dr. Zoidberg. He's a weird monster who smells like he eats garbage and does.
Dr. Zoidberg: Damn right.
Fry: And the professor's a senile amoral crackpot.
Professor: Oyeeaii.
Fry: Hermes is a Rastafarian accountant.
Hermes: Tally me banana.
Fry: Amy is a klutz from Mars.
Amy:
Re:atleast they realize their mistakes (Score:3, Funny)
Re:atleast they realize their mistakes (Score:2)
That's coming to a close soon, and they've apparantly decided not to pick up the last 9 episodes [sfgate.com] of the third season, which is shame. All is not hopelessly lost, though, so if you're a fan, visit SaveOurBluths [the-op.com] and show your support.
Re:Thats nice and all..... (Score:2)
Re:Woooo-Whoooo! (Score:3, Funny)
That's just air escaping from the folds of his fat!
Re:I'm all for it ... (Score:5, Funny)
Don't Worry. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I'm all for it ... (Score:3, Funny)
You seem to have misspelled "American Dad" and "The Boondocks".
Re:Why does Fox cancel the good shows? (Score:2)