Lucas, Ford to Start Filming New Indiana Jones Film 477
Alchemist253 writes "George Lucas has announced that the script for the long-rumored fourth Indiana Jones film has been finalized and is to begin filming this year, with Harrison Ford once again in front of the camera. From the article: 'In a statement, the 64-year-old Ford said he was ready for another turn as the globe-trotting archaeologist. "I'm delighted to be back in business with my old friends," he said. "I don't know if the pants still fit, but I know the hat will."' All three of the earlier movies were shot in the 80s. How well do you think this character is going to translate into a movie made today?
Maybe something like this. (Score:5, Funny)
*CRACK*
"Shit! My back went again!"
Re:Maybe something like this. (Score:5, Informative)
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Nah, Panama Hat already said it best.... (Score:5, Informative)
Panama Hat: This is the second time I've had to reclaim my property from you.
Indiana Jones: That belongs in a museum.
Panama Hat: So do you.
Re:Maybe something like this. (Score:5, Funny)
Either the Nazis will come out of a time warp in the 1960s, or maybe they'll continue to set the movie pre-WWII and explain that Indiana aged 25 years instantly when he decided to open that box and peek inside the Ark, just for a second, with sunglasses on.
Re:Maybe something like this. (Score:5, Funny)
What, they're putting Rick Berman and Brannon Braga on the team, too?
Re:Maybe something like this. (Score:5, Informative)
A twenty-years-aged Indy will probably be fighting cartoon Commies rather than cartoon Nazis. Perhaps Chinese ones.
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You're probably too young too remember the "Mission Imposisble" series, which ran from around 1966. Mostly the bad guys were iron curtain dictators, but old Nazis made regular appearances too. It was only 21 years after the end of WW2, after all. That's like going back in the wayback machine from 2007 to 1986. At that time, Dick Cheney was serving in Congress, having lost his job as whitehouse Chief o
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Indiana Jones and the Annoying Alien from Naboo
JJ: "Meesa no liiiike Nazzzzziiis!!"
IJ: *crack* "Oh, my back!" *crack*
JJ: "Aaaaaggghh!!! Meesa no like bull whip!!!!"
Re:That's funny (Score:5, Funny)
Anything that keeps Lucas from writing scripts deserves our support.
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*glucas has rejected script1
*glucas has rejected script2
*glucas has rejected script3
*glucas has rejected script4
*glucas has rejected script5
glucas: Bantha pudu, all of it. I'll write the script.
*glucas pounds on keyboard for 37 minutes
glucas: There! A rollicking adventure about Indie finding a lost island and a chest full of cursed Aztec gold.
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"... and a CGI humanoid chicken. Love that chicken!"
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With how well the Star Wars prequels were written, maybe it would be better if he was forced to use a script that he didn't like. Honestly, there are several directors that I really wish would find another director (who would treat the material better) to handle sequels/prequels of movies that were made 10-20+ years ago.
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I dunno. He also was the one that approved Jar-Jar in Episode 1....
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At the same time, they are *not* going to make Indy the same age as the previous films. He will be relatively older, like Harrison Ford is.
I would worry that the script is going to be as painful as the last 3 Star Wars films, but I think that this, not being a Sci-Fi film, will turn out pretty well... and Spielburg will be directing.
Cheers,
Fozzy
ObSNL (Score:5, Funny)
shot in versus (Score:5, Interesting)
The originals were all done in the pulp-action adventure style that was popularized fifty and sixty years ago - I doubt that it'll somehow be less attractive now than it was when the genre was only thirty years old.
Also, all three may have been shot in the eighties, but they took place in the forties, so it's not like we're going to see an Indiana Jones trying to come to terms with teh Intarwebs.
On the other hand, twenty-some odd years later... hey, an Indiana Jones that took place in the sixties might have real potential.
Re:shot in versus (Score:5, Interesting)
What the entertainment industry lacks currently is light stuff like pulp fiction, be it books, movies, or tv shows (I will admit that the day and age of the radio drama are probably gone, though they could be revived via the use of netcasts).
I have honestly been goign back and reading some of the old stuff (before my time) jsut because it is hard to find anytihng like it that is current. After all, I can only take so many pieces that are trying to be high-brow/intelectual/witty/etc. Every so often I need something that is just pure release and nothing else.
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[Int. ancient temple. Indy's female love-interest-du-jour has a cartoonish Nazi at gunpoint.]
Indy: Bring out the Gimp.
Nazi: The Gimp is sleeping, Herr Jones.
Love-interest-du-jour: It's fantastic! The chamber must extend 60 meters...
Indy: Shit, they ain't got the metric system in ancient Egypt. They wouldn't know what the fuck a meter is.
Love-interest-du-jour: Then what would they call it?
Indy: A cubit.
[Love-interest-du-jour accidentally shoots Nazi in the head, splattering brains everywhere.]
Love-interest-du-jour: Oh man, I shot that Nazi in the face.
Indy: Why the fuck did you do that!
Love-interest-du-jour: Well, I didn't mean to do it, it was an accident!
Indy: Oh man I've seen some crazy ass shit in my time...
Love-interest-du-jour: Chill out, man. I told you it was an accident. You probably set off a booby trap by stepping on that "X" right there.
Indy: "X" never, ever marks the spot, bitch!
Love-interest-du-jour: Hey, look man, I didn't mean to shoot the son of a bitch. The gun went off. I don't know why.
Indy: No, let me ask you a question. When you came in here, did you see a hieroglyphic out in front of this temple that said Dead Nazi Storage?
Love-interest-du-jour: Indy, you know I ain't seen no...
Indy: Did you see a hieroglyphic out in front of this temple that said Dead Nazi Storage?
Love-interest-du-jour: [pause] No. I didn't.
Indy: You know WHY you didn't see that hieroglyphic?
Love-interest-du-jour: Why?
Indy: 'Cause it ain't there, 'cause storing dead Nazis ain't my fucking business, that's why!
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Are you kidding? Light stuff is all there is in the entertainment industry. It's all 100% fluff. When was the last time you saw a movie or tv show that had something important to say?
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Raiders of the Lost Ark o
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You know, I was thinking the exact same thing. At first, I dismissed the project out of hand, but now that I think about it, it actually has some potential. Lucas will neither be writing nor directing, and the 60's could be an interesting setting for Indiana Jones.
And even if it fails... (Score:2)
IMDb lists Natalie Portman as a rumored cast member. [imdb.com] So in case the movie doesn't live up to its potential, just add some hot grits and we'll all go watch it anyway. :-P
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Not to nitpick, but... (Score:5, Informative)
The open sequence in Raiders says "Peru, 1936."
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Well there goes another one! (Score:5, Insightful)
Hopefully 2007 ushers in a year in which remakes, sequels, and adaptations give way to original and creative stories and ways to tell them.
Re:Well there goes another one! (Score:5, Informative)
Uh, fraid not. [bbc.co.uk]
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The great thing is, you don't have to go see it if you don't want to. Or see it, then pretend it never happened. Just like I did with the Highlander series...
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They made one fantastic movie and then they made a one good series.
Fortunately they never made any sequels or spinoff series from those.
And it was always strange to me how Babylon 5 ended on Season 4, episode 21. No ending but i guess they couldn't think of a good ending so they just stopped it there.
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It can be avoided.
Crazy at it may sound, just about every review of Rocky Balboa observes that it's easily the best since the original. OK, not as good as the original but still one to improve the legacy overall and not detract from it.
The secret appears to be:
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As the other poster said, you don't have to watch it if you don't want to. I still haven't seen the last two Star Wars movies, and not planning to do so.
Ok, George, I'll believe it when I see it (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ok, George, I'll believe it when I see it (Score:5, Funny)
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Something tells me George laughed all the way to the bank.
/greger
So much for never (Score:5, Interesting)
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Shouldn't Ford be the helpful mentor by now? (Score:2)
Definitely not a main character in an action movie. What was that awful "computer" movie he was just in?
Re:Shouldn't Ford be the helpful mentor by now? (Score:4, Funny)
I'll take CGI over that, thank you very much.
If Indiana Jones Sr was around in pre-WWII Germany (Score:4, Funny)
That'll make Indiana Jones Jr. old enough for something like Indiana Jones and the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
HCUUA: Sign the confession!
Jones Jr.: Gimme the whip!
HCUUA: No time to argue. Sign the confession, we give you the whip.
Jones Jr.: (signs the confession) Gimme the whip!
HCUUA: Adios, señor. (guards grab Indiana Jones Jr.)
Oh boy! (Score:2)
I suppose it is...since he couldn't float another turd across if it wasn't held up by the nations collective nostalgia. Any magic he allegedly had 'back in the day' has clearly faded, or been retarded by senility.
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Unfortunately he died before I-III were written, even more unfortunately lucas went ahead anyway.
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Re:Oh boy! (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah. Allegedly. In truth, what has lucas ever done that wasn't hokie and childish? The original Star Wars was actually pretty good, but Lucas deserves little credit for that. He lucked out in a major way with Harrison Ford, and Harrison Ford saved Star Wars. Try to imagine the movie with just whiny little Luke Skywalker. It just doesn't work.
Case in point, there is a video on youtube of behind the scenes footage from Empire Strikes Back. There is a great scene in Empire where Solo is being lowered in the carbonite pit and Leia shouts to him, "I love you!" Han looks up at her and say, "I know"
What a great scene! Well guess what, Lucas originally wrote it this way:
Leia: I love you
Han: I love you too.
Stop for a moment and let the deep, penetrating suckiness of those two lines seep into your being. George Lucas, sitting at his typewriter, no doubt in his underwear, actually typed that, and actually thought it was a good idea. He typed that crap, then he sat back and looked at what he had done and said, "hell yeah, I'm a bloody genius."
Fortunately, when it came time to film that scene, Irvin Kershner was calling the shots and Lucas was (presumably) in a crypt somewhere. Harrison Ford looked at the script and said, "this sucks" and Kershner agreed and they changed it. And we all remember Empire Strikes Back as a great movie.
Well, it is a great movie, but no thanks to Lucas.
If only we had known the truth, then maybe we wouldn't have been so shocked some years later when we were treated to Lucas' drivel in the form of such brain-numbing lines as "omfg sand is the suxor it gets in my eye LOL!!!11" and my personal favorite, "Noooo!!!!"
God, I hate George Lucas.
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Let me improve your feeble script
Luke: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
George Lucas : I'm a bloody genius
"zomg teh force is strong in dis 1, i can tell from his milk-of-chloreines"
Random Star Wars fans, I AM George Lucas. Together we shall rule the universe as father and son.
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THX 1138. This is a classic work of science fiction, not fantasy adventure, and is fairly serious throughout. Even the directors-cut expanded CG-updated version is relatively unspoiled and watchable.
Re:Oh boy! (Score:5, Interesting)
If only it had been such an intentional alteration. In fact, the scene had so many takes that Ford had heard "I love you" so many times he finally replied "I know" half jokingly. They thought it fit Solo's character better and stuck with that line. The whole movie had to be re-edited at great expense because the first version was terrible. To get the movie we ended up with many of the scenes go right until the last frame of film that was shot to get them to work.
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We Aren't Dead, Yet (Score:3, Insightful)
Most of us who saw the originals are still alive today. Why wouldn't the characters translate well? The 80's were NOT that long ago. Sheesh!
Re:We Aren't Dead, Yet (Score:5, Insightful)
I know how you feel, but remember when your parents kept telling you when you were a kid about how cool the 60s were, and it felt like they were talking about a different geological era? Well, that's what these kids today think about the 80s. And much like our parents told us, we can tell today's youth that their music sux0rs compared to the stuff we had back in our day.
Of course, they were right.
Could be very interesting. (Score:2)
I read a rumor somewhere (rotten tomatoes I think) that many of the old principals were going to come back, including the females from Raiders & Temple of Doom, which could be cool.
All in all, I hope they don't try to make Ford too much younger like
No new ideas (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:No new ideas (Score:5, Insightful)
There are plenty of new ideas around. Thousands, millions of them. You can bet your bottom dollar that Hollywood is absolutely crammed to bursting with smart, dynamic writers with amazingly edgy, groundbreaking, intelligent film scripts, any one of which could, if made, become an iconic classic, a milestone in modern cinema, a fixture of pop culture to come. You have your ideas, I'm sure. I know I do too. There is no shortage of ideas.
The problem is the, studios don't care about movies. They don't care about creating new icons. They care about money. And nothing else. And when you want to make money, you don't take risks, you make safe movies. Cash cows. Sequels to existing successful movies are by far the most reliable of these. Even most original movies you will find slot neatly into pre-existing genre templates. There's the teen comedy movie, the action movie, the romantic comedy, the animated kids' movie, and so on, and so on. It's all numbers.
The other problem is the viewing audience. They don't want to see new things. While there is less money at stake, they, too, want a safe movie. They go to movie theaters to see something they are pretty sure will entertain them. Out-there, avant-garde movies do not appeal to the general public - at least, not to the most profitable movie-going demographics. Therefore making a stunningly imaginative new movie is risky - it's a risk for punters to see it, which makes it a risk for studios to make it, which is why they are so rarely made.
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That being said, there are more indie movies available now that there ever were... you just have to see them on cable, or on netflix, or whatever.
It was a great new idea when it came out (Score:3, Interesting)
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Not one comeback - but two! (Score:5, Funny)
"George, Harrison and I are all very excited," Spielberg said, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
I thought George Harrison has passed away? Or are they bringing him back as well as Indy? Just amazing what those boys at ILM can do...
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I thought George Harrison has passed away? Or are they bringing him back as well as Indy? Just amazing what those boys at ILM can do...
...but it's even more amazing what a single comma can do.
G Harrison's death ruined one of my favorite jokes (Score:2)
Q: What would it take to reunite the Beatles?
A: Three more bullets.
The character is fine... (Score:2)
The character is timeless. Similar characters abound in Norse Sagas and Greek Myths for example. As to whether the actor needs to be replaced, depends on the filmmakers. I would personally say yes, even a good director will have issue making him credible - so change him. I would also say that adding an hour of exposition on a trade embargo and a floppy eared jive talking sidekick would be a terrible terrible terrible mistak
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Now what THAT means is a whole other question...
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"Depends..."
How will this one be? (Score:4, Informative)
Depends on who has the most influence on the movie: if Spielberg then I think it'll be a fun romp, if Lucas then I'm afraid it'll turn into a moralistic pile o' crap (see "Star Wars Prequels").
Lucas has already said he's tried to reedit the earlier movies to make Indy more "heroic" (I believe that he wanted to edit or remove the "Indy pulls his guns on the sword wielding baddies and shots 'em dead on the spot" scene from the first film a'la "Greedo shoots first". Spielberg wouldn't allow him).
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Ford improvisation - they had planned an elaborate sword vs. whip duel
(Indy had lost his gun someplace) but Ford was too sick to film it
and suggested "can't I just shoot him?".
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Bah. The only thing Spielberg guarantees is some overly cute, sappy kid. I hate cute kids in my adventure movies.
It's like he saw how successful the cuteness was in E.T. and decided to put it in every movie. Well, every movie that wasn't designed to depress me.
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Meesa thinksa yousa not paying attention...
CGI will be used... (Score:2)
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*would have said Doom, but that was already taken.
Rocky er.. Indiana IIXIV (Score:2)
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"my old friends" (Score:2)
Old is indeed the good word.
I wonder if the movie is about finding the fountain of youth.
Indiana Jones now has a family... (Score:4, Insightful)
Didn't Nostradamus say... (Score:5, Funny)
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All the films were shot in the 80's... (Score:4, Funny)
Oh, man. I read this and thought "that can't be right!" - then I looked it up and now I just feel old.
This isn't a last ditch attempt for easy $$$ (Score:4, Interesting)
In order to preserve the original trilogy as one of the best in American film history, only a damn good script would make it past Ford/Lucas/Spielberg.
Personally? I can hardly wait another year and a half for it. A fourth movie is long overdue.
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Which leaves a very big plot hole on who made the great seal and what is it?
And why does it have anything with the holy grail? Since presumptuously the grail in itself is the power to immortality, but why does it matter that the seal had anything to do with this? Did Jesus show up and bless the seal when the knights made the temple in the Middle
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I think you're missing out on the whole "Power of God" thing here. Just to pull something from my nethers, I'd say that the folks who set up the place (the knights who found it) got a vision from God to set up a place for the grail and make a seal on the ground to mark the boundary. The seal itself isn't the boundary, just like a road cone isn't the pothole that it marks. The seal just shows mortals where the line is. As
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Now who are they going to find that's still Indy-level hawt in her mid 60's for the romantic lead... There's a few out there I'm sure.
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Though the curing of all ills probably would extend life somewhat. 'You know what? That cancer that would've killed you in 20 years? Gone'. Well, that and something along the lines of a professional retuning of the body's systems, fixing up accumulated damage.
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They're both up in years.
Sean Connery is 76 [imdb.com]. As mentioned, Harrison Ford is 64.
That you bought the illusion that Sean Connery could be Harrison Ford's father means they're actors!
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Or a time warp sent them back from the modern inner city. Yeah, that's the ticket. Sorry to spoil the plot of the new movie already.
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