New "Terminator" Trilogy Planned 303
Ant writes "Dark Horizons reports after much talk and posturing over the future of "The Terminator" franchise/series in recent years, something surprising has happened: The Halcyon Company has acquired the franchise rights to the popular movie series and intends to make a new trilogy that would anchor their movie company..."
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That being said, the conception of the terminator universe is still fertile, I think. Creative and productive people with a clear vision unfettered by corporate BS could probably do something pretty cool with the property. We've seen, as with LotR, if a company is staking it's existence on a property they can potentially realize that t
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Separate thought here. I wonder if it would prove fruitful to build a mental model of cultural properties something like this:
Audience Adoration = Potential Energy
Cash = Kinetic Energy
One can be converted to the other - with losses. But if you want to increase one without decreasing the other you need to add work to the system. Hmmm, may
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In Terminator 1, a Robot was sent back in time, to kill Sarah Connor, preventing the birth of John Connor, leader of the resistance. The resistance sent a human back into time as well, who then impregnated Sarah, to create John Connor. Although the terminator is nearly destroyed, at the end of the film, Judgement day still was
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I don't see how film franchises are any worse than TV shows that drag on for years and years, or comics that go on for decades. Just because a film uses old characters and an old premise doesn't mean it can't be entertaining.
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Nah, man, the above is what will make this good. There's been what, 2 minutes, shown of this timeframe of the universe? That whole part of the terminator universe is the basis for all of the movies, yet it is largely left to our imagination. They are going to explore that. No dead horse. They're, uhh
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It's not dead if we go back in time. Also, I have the exact date the foal was conceived right here, I suggest we go back and beat his mother this time before he's born.
Who needs Arnold? (Score:2, Funny)
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"Neither creator James Cameron or original star Arnold Schwarzenegger will be involved in the project, which picks up with John Connor in his 30s leading what's left of the human race against the machines."
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I can predict the future on this one without time travel.
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Episode 4: Total Recall
After modifying part of skynet, John Connor managed to recall all robots back to HQ where he short-circuited their Sony power unit until they swell and explode. Towards the end the program managed to install itself on a retrotype animal robot.. something called the AIBO
Episode 5: Kindergarten Cop
Turns out before the Terminator was sent back in time to help young John, the old John sent another robot called the Eraser to assist toddler John in finding little Miles Bennett Dyson. The SkynetAIBO was also sent back in time and ate all of John's erasers, including the one that smells really nice. SkynetAIBO returns home sick from eating too much erasers.
Episode 6: The Last Action Hero
The future world is now finally at peace. Robots are again used as servants and slaves without soul. John refused to lead the nation of United States and settled to govern the state of CA-90210.
One day he suffers from major headache when a hotel chain heiress Barcelona Hotlin begged him to get her off her impending imprisonment due to excessive velocity transport without authorization clearance. He agreed to pardon her in exchange with sexual favor, which the SkynetAIBO secretly taped and sold all over the Interweb. SkynetAIBO becomes rich and builds a new ROBOTIC EMPIRE. (pitch to the next series of trilogy)
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Premonition. (Score:5, Funny)
"Meesa be back!"
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Worth going back in time to prevent: (Score:4, Funny)
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I can hardly wait!
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To be fair (Score:5, Funny)
OMG is the George Lucas Effect! (Score:5, Funny)
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Slashdot VI: Death of the AC
We were all thinking it... I'm just saying it
Enough (Score:5, Insightful)
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Hollywood only cares about quality product to the extent that they need the occasional quality product in order to keep the cash pouring in.
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Even further, Hollywood is compelled to continue making sequels until they are so bad they stop making money. It is the only way to insure they have extracted all the money possible from a franchise.
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Police Academy is probably the best example of that.
Though I consider the second and third Matrix movies and the Star Wars prequel trilogy to be pretty good examples as well.
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Well, IMHO, Star Wars IV was the best in that series
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No, me too but then I also really liked Star Trek The Motion Picture so what do I know?
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Trilogies (Score:5, Funny)
Trilogies II: Trilogier (Score:5, Funny)
Trilogies III: Trilectric Boogoloo (Score:5, Funny)
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I would have argued with you except for Pirates 2. Glad I paid full price for half a movie there.
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Movie is like tea. Script is for movie what leaf is for tea. You take idea and work on it for years, and it will make very good script. Same is for tea. You take garden and work on it for years, and you will have get very good leaf. Then you make movie with very good script. And tea with very good leaf.
And you will see, tea is wonderful, as is movie wonderful. So you say, those leaves made wonderful tea. And I want another wonderful tea. So they will make another
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I don't consider it a trilogy, the sequels are crappy canned entertainment, which try destroy the magic of the original movie just to make Arnold be a hero, not a villain.
Hollywood is an investment system (Score:3, Insightful)
~"People think Hollywood is about creativity and artistic expression. It's not - it's actually a very strange investment system. You put some money in, and hopefully, get more money out. An established franchise is a form of hedging."
However, fear not, movie fans - the tools coming out will allow anyone with talent to produce a film with production values as high as any, and it's getting cheaper all the time. The red [red.com] camera, i [apple.com]
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Hm.. I'm sorry, maybe it's because I just rolled out of bed and I'm a bit tired, but I can't tell if you're trying to be sarcastic or not... *books* don't have trilogies??? When was the last time you went to a book store my friend?
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Tom Clancy's good for that too.
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Dragonlance was huge steaming pile of unimaginative, derivative crap from the very 1st book, I read up until number 3 and it just got worse and worse and worse.
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*cough* Xanth! *cough*
What I really want (Score:3, Interesting)
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"On earth, everyone can..."
I actually saw that trailer in a movie theater before they replaced the directory and rewrote Alien 3. It was just the big egg on a black screen with the light and smoke coming out of the crack while the voiceover said the taglines. To bad they didn't make *that* movie.
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Maybe they could have a explorer or survey team with only a few weapons stumble onto an alien nest world. They'd have to survive until they got rescued. It could even have different species of them (cannibalization?) and other creatures they compete with (they gotta eat something). Alien Ecosystem, the movie.
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I agree the "endless shooting" stuff gets boring very fast, as you say, but your alternate idea has also been done to death: small group of plucky explorers trapped against overwhelming odds, outnumbered and outgunned, slowly getting picked off one by one while crawling around in the dark, until only the last 1 or 2 makes it back to the escape ship alive. Yawn!
Someone seriously needs to come up wi
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Oh I don't know, Weyland Yutani is one mega corp who put their baby against Terminator from er.. the other lot. You could even blame it all on terrorists for extra points.
That would anchor their company... (Score:5, Insightful)
After repeated viewings, I'm of the opinion that Cameron's what makes the franchise. We didn't need a third movie (what the hell was up with that, anyway?) - much like we didn't need a Highlander 2 (or 3, etc).
If they're good, that's one thing - but Terminator without Cameron is like, say... The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen without Allen Moore. Or Watchmen if it were written by Rob Liefeld.
The only upcoming "sequel" sci-fi I'm looking forward to is Babylon 5 : The Lost Tales. It's more B5, and most importantly, it's still under the control of Straczynski.
I trust in creators, not franchises.
Terminator never explored the post-nuclear world (Score:4, Interesting)
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I watched T3 with the commentary turned on a while ago, and all the
guy could talk about was "the franchise". It was jarring for me,
I mean, how about you not worry about "the franchise" and make a
good movie?
Will it involve Arnold? (Score:2, Funny)
Maybe if the last installment is a crossover with Indiana Jones, where they fight over Jello in a nursing home..
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It's a fair cop.. (Score:3, Funny)
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If it wasn't a typo, does that mean one of the two will still be invovled? If not, I think we need to get "Or" invovled. WE WAN'T OR! Talented and creative OR!
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I'm struggling with your use of the apostrophe here. What does 'wa not' mean?
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So that "or" should actually read "nor". Unless my English teacher misled me.
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Plot for Terminator 4 (Score:5, Funny)
T4 (Score:3, Funny)
T5: The return of the return of the return of the machines.
T6: The return of the return of the return of the return of the machines.
I could work in Hollywood.
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The latest Terminator trilogy might anchor their movie company but the ship can still sink and come to rest beside the anchor.
I got this great idea which might help revive the trilogy: why not set the last trilogy in time before the first set of movies and
I hope they make it a love story chick flick (Score:4, Interesting)
But to be fair, T-3 was pretty close to that. All that they need to do is fill the cast with whatever interchangeable hunks and chicks are in whatever is hot on the WB at that time.
Oh yeah and did I mention that Sarah Conners has to be black?
arnold?!!? (Score:2)
a more pertinent question is...(call me a shallow geek if you wish)
Spoilers (Score:4, Funny)
Dark Horse Terminator Comics were good (Score:2, Informative)
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Where is the new SciFi? (Score:5, Insightful)
Something that isn't a "franchise". Some that is not Star Wars? Or Star Trek
Or whatever it is Hollywood has already made dozens of movies of?
Fuck ANY thing without a number at the end!
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We have lots. "The Last Mimzy", most recently. "Pan's Labyrinth" was a terrific fantasy work, too, and "Stardust" is on the way in August.
The problem is that unless it's an action blockbuster, sci-fi and fantasy are tough sells -- partly because they have a special effects budget, but mostly because they have a small audience. My wife has a hard time enjoying any story that isn't rooted in the reality she lives every
What a stupid idea (Score:2, Interesting)
The problem with T3 and any future project is that they're doing it for the bucks, not because there's any story worth telling. When it's about the money, the entire project will be permeated with a workman-like attitude. "Hey, don't complain, you're getting paid." "It doesn't have to get good, it j
Suggested Titles (Score:3, Funny)
Okay, so we've already got -
- The Terminator
- Terminator 2: Judgement Day
- Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Followed by -
- Terminator 4: Inescapable Truth
- Terminator 5: ?????
- Terminator 6: Profit!*
* The working title for "Terminator 6: Profit!" is "Please, oh please, watch this movie." I can't wait for some asshat to start with the whole "social contract" crap and how we, the good little consumers, have an obligation to go to the theaters and finance whatever garbage they're shoveling this week. Think of the children of the executive producer!
tell it from the point of view of sensenet (Score:3, Interesting)
Why T3 Sucked (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.goingfaster.com/term2029/t3review.html [goingfaster.com]
A review of
T3: Rise of the Machines
or the alternate title
"T3: WE REWROTE T2: JUDGMENT DAY AND TRIED TO SLIP IT PAST THE FANS FOR MORE OF THEIR MONEY"
Déjà vu is a funny feeling you get when you think that you have done or seen something before. Well, when I bought the T3 DVD and watched it for the first time I had a real case of déjà vu. Even though this was the first time that I had ever seen T3:ROTM, I knew t
As long as we're making sequels (Score:2, Funny)
"More humans... please... the first one was... delicious...."
I can see it now (Score:3, Funny)
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And then the Aliens show up.
And in the sequel, humans start mutating and get superpowers!
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Then again, when I look at some porn sites...