New Hampshire Law Students Take On RIAA 173
NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "We have recently learned that another law school legal aid clinic has joined the fight against the RIAA. Student attorneys from the Consumer and Commercial Law Clinic
of the Franklin Pierce Law Center in Concord, New Hampshire, working under law school faculty supervision, are representing
a lady targeted by the RIAA in UMG Recording v. Roy in New Hampshire. The case is scheduled for trial next Fall. That makes at least 4 law schools providing anti-RIAA defense services: University of Maine,
University of San Francisco, Franklin Pierce, and, most recently, Harvard. Hopefully many
more will follow. One commentator theorizes that this news 'will ... [encourage] professors and students at other law schools to take on hitherto defenseless people being pilloried by the corporate music industry.'"
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they didnt say the lawyer was working for free. wait for the bill to come. she might have been better off settling
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The clinics at law schools are virtually always free of charge. That is the entire point, to provide services to those who couldn't afford them.
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That is the entire point, to provide services to those who couldn't afford them.
Rather, the entire point is to provide free training to law students, handling (parts of) real cases for people who can't complain too much if they screw something up.
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You meant to say: "Wait till they graduate. Right now they don't get paid either way."
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Yeah?
Well i can taste your anger.
Does it taste like chicken?
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OH YEAH!
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See, not all lawyers are bad
Ray is my third favorite lawyer, right behind the lady who handled my divorce and the gentleman who handled my bankrupcy. When you need a lawyer, you NEED a lawyer!
The only "bad" lawyers (a) work for corporations or (b) are suing you. When you need a lawyer, one will save you far more than (s)he costs in fees. If you need to sue (say an uninsured drunk driver puts you in the hospital), one will tell you if you have a case or not. Here in Illlinois lawyers generally charge 1/3 of a settlement, or 50% of a judgement if it goes to court.
In an auto accident here, you get 3x the medical costs for "pain and suffering". If you have $10k in medical bills, the doctor(s) get(s) $10k, your lawyer gets $10k, and you get $10k. Without a lawyer you'll be lucky to get your bills paid.
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And when you DON'T need a lawyer, you still need to pay a lawyer! Because they write laws that ensure that they get paid even when you don't need them.
(I needed some work done reg. my immigration and I approached a friend of mine who works as a paralegal. Even though the work was trivial and she was more than capable of doing it, she told me that it was illegal for her to do that as she was not a lawyer.)
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The only "bad" lawyers (a) work for corporations or (b) are suing you.
You've been fortunate.
Here's one anecdote in contradiction with your anecdotes: A friend of mine had a divorce lawyer that dropped him 6 months in and 1 week before court because they discovered that his wife had done one of those "free first appointments" with them 7 months prior (she apparently did that with all of the local divorce attorneys so that he would have a hard time finding representation). They kept his money and because of the "old boys club" of lawyers in his town he had to go out of town to even find an attorney who was willing to sue the first for his money back.
Which leads to the real problem with lawyers - the bar. Lawyers are "self-regulating" which we should all know by now is an inherent conflict of interest that inevitably leads to corruption, regardless of what industry does it.
In an auto accident here, you get 3x the medical costs for "pain and suffering". If you have $10k in medical bills, the doctor(s) get(s) $10k, your lawyer gets $10k, and you get $10k. Without a lawyer you'll be lucky to get your bills paid.
Your last sentence is telling. How much of that is because of the way the system works? The system that was setup by, is run by, and is regulated by lawyers?
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Lawyers are "self-regulating" which we should all know by now is an inherent conflict of interest that inevitably leads to corruption, regardless of what industry does it.
Professional engineers are self-regulated. State boards of professional engineers, the exams, all that stuff is run by engineers and for engineers. In Florida, for example (which is typical of most states), the only government involvement is a few laws that give the Board its power. And medicine is not all that different.
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You were lucky. Most woman evil enough to commit serial adultery are evil enough to be unreasonable.
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Most woman evil enough to commit serial adultery...
So you knew my ex-wife too, eh?
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Your friend didn't get dropped because of any "old boys club". Your friend was dropped because it is against the Rules of Professional Conduct to represent someone in the situation you mentioned. That lawyer could have been disbarred if he had not withdrawn.
And should have promptly returned the fees paid - which should never have been accepted in the first place. The lawyer failed to do due diligence to check if the wife had already consulted him prior to taking on the husband as a client.
Anyhow, the GP didn't say his friend got dropped because of the old boy's club. He said the friend couldn't find a local lawyer willing to challenge the original lawyer who was at fault. This is common. I've been to court many times, and all the attorneys know they will o
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No,
The old boys club part referred to the issue of not getting a refund for monies paid (when the lawyer should have figured out withing the first week, if not days, that the wife was a "former" client), and not being able to find a lawyer in town who would represent him in suing the first lawyer.
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The only "bad" lawyers (a) work for corporations or (b) are suing you.
You forgot:
c) lose your perfectly valid case
When you need a lawyer, one will save you far more than (s)he costs in fees.
Very true.
In addition, if there weren't lawyers, we wouldn't be able to tell morbid jokes that people laugh at.
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c) lose your perfectly valid case
That's not a bad lawyer, it's an incompetent one. Lawyers are like programmers or doctors, though - some of them are excellent, some are mediocre. Like finding a mechanic, doctor, or barber, the trick is to find a competent one.
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"The only "bad" lawyers (a) work for corporations or (b) are suing you."
Oh man, you couldn't be more wrong. There are many, many lawyers out there just aiming to make a quick buck on someone who "NEEDS" a lawyer and doesn't know how to pick one.
My father hasn't had to deal with lawyers much, and he picked a bad one. It ended up costing him a LOT of money without actually fulfilling his 'need'. The lawyer was good at one thing: Convincing the client to stay with him instead of going elsewhere. No matter what I said, my father refused to leave and find a better lawyer, even after admitting that the guy wasn't doing the job.
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How does one go about picking a lawyer, anyway (aside from avoiding the ambulance-chasing shysters who advertise on TV)?
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The only "bad" lawyers (a) work for corporations or (b) are suing you.
or (c), advertise heavily on tv, asking if you've been injured in an accident.
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My cousin is a bad lawyer under category (c) "Lawyers who you know are bad because you know them". The stories he proudly tells about using courtroom dirty tricks are astounding. One of my favorites is the "jar of marbles". He currently works for a large hotel chain defending them against suits brought by workers they've cheated. In one case, the suit alleged that the hotel would only promote white men to management. He argued that the fact that all management was white men could be pure chance. He produced a jar of marbles that were 10% black and 90% white and said "is it not possible to reach into this jar and, by chance, pull twenty marbles and not pull one black one, just by chance?" The plaintiff's attorney objeted at this bullshit and the objection was sustained, and the jury told to disregard that little bit of irrelevantr statistics; but (as he proudly related) "I kept that jar of marbles on the defense table, right where the jury could see it, for the whole trial--- and we won". Even if it was lack of evidence that caused him to prevail, the fact that he is proud of that marble shit just goes to show what kind of dickhead tends to become a lawyer--- or maybe, what kind of dickhead becoming a lawyer tends to turn you into.
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the fact that he is proud of that marble shit just goes to show what kind of dickhead tends to become a lawyer--- or maybe, what kind of dickhead becoming a lawyer tends to turn you into.
Isn't there a third possibility? Like that some lawyers are jerks? Just like there are some jerks everywhere else in the general population?
Some good, some bad, how do you know which? (Score:2)
Isn't there a third possibility? Like that some lawyers are jerks? Just like there are some jerks everywhere else in the general population?
I went along to a bunch of court appearances and watched an acquaintance of mine suffer at the hands of the "wrong" attorney during his divorce. The wrangling it took just to get that attorney to go away so he could use another lawyer was really surprising. Thankfully his next attorney was really good, and a great person. I know now who to call if I ever need a lawyer for courtroom work.
If I hadn't seen these lawyers in action and I was staring at the phone book looking for a lawyer, I wouldn't
Re:Some good, some bad, how do you know which? (Score:5, Insightful)
How does someone find a good lawyer, except by chance?
The only reliable way is through referrals from people you know. I.e., networking. E.g., if you need a personal injury lawyer, but the only good lawyer you know is a real estate lawyer, ask the real estate lawyer to help you find a good personal injury lawyer. If you can't do it through a good lawyer, reach out to friends, business associates, etc., whose judgment you respect.
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Like if you had a jar of marbles and 10% of the marbles were jerks?
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Isn't there a third possibility? Like that some lawyers are jerks? Just like there are some jerks everywhere else in the general population?
Indeed, that was my intended point. I got wrapped up in the story and forgot to add "loud, showy jerks like my cousin are who people remember, making everyone think lawyers all suck".
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Couldn't it be chance? .9^20 is about 12%. It's not amazing odds, but I don't think it's "beyond a reasonable doubt" that racism is involved.
You are assuming that the promotion pool is 90% white. It was more like 20%. The ratio in the jar was supposed to represent the local ratio of "negroes vs whiteys" in the general population (and it didn't even do that accurately), when in fact the suit was about how they ALWAYS promoted from within, and the guys who managed to promote up out of the entry level jobs were ALWAYS white. It was later resolved in an out of court settlement which was the result of a larger suit brought by more than the one plaint
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I had a friend who was in a pretty bad car accident with his best friend, who was driving at the time. They both went to the hospital and had bills to pay, etc. My friend (the non-driver) hired a lawyer to assist with the insurance companies. The first thing the lawyer did without consent was to sue the driver. As soon as the non-driver friend found out, he told the lawyer that he never had any intention of suing the drive
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Wash your mouth out!
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Why just cases vs RIAA? Now THAT is a pretty damned good question! It might just be that the tactics of the RIAA's legal team are so reprehensible that people are volunteering to fight them. If you are a judge or know one, you should perhaps help point this out to them.
It has always been my thinking that Harvard law school very rarely ever comes out on the wrong side of a legal issue. It is their business after all. That term Preponderance of evidence [thefreedictionary.com] would seem to apply here when so many law schools are weighing in on this issue, and doing so against the RIAA legal team.
It would seem to me that this should be seen as a very bad omen for the RIAA et al. When all the kids circle around and start picking on the class bully, things normally get sorted out, and the bully gets a black eye or two as needed. I think that is what we might be witnessing in the greater stage of legal theater.
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NH is "Live Free or Die!", which is even better.
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Truly the best state motto ever.
New Hampshire's state constitution is also the only one which recognizes the right of the people to rebel against their government.
Let's hear it for New Hampshire!
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That isn't required in Vermont or Alaska.
Alaska does issue CCW permits, but they are only used for states with CCW license reciprocity, and aren't needed in Alaska.
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Don't Tread on Me! Baby!
Good one. Hope you get modded to +5. Here's to the great state of New Hampshire, home of the Green Mountain Boys.
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Almost, but the Green Mountain Boys are from our spooning partner to the west, Vermont. /Vermonter stuck in NH due to the job market
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New Hampshire's state motto is actually "Live free or die," (obviously adopted before the RIAA was around and contributing to campaigns.) I'm unclear as to the connection between "don't tread on me" and new hampshire. Did someone from NH say it first?
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And here I thought it was "Live, Freeze and Cry"
Not mainstream yet. (Score:2, Interesting)
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Why?... (Score:5, Interesting)
*And, really, it doesn't matter if the students being targeted were guilty. In our society, everyone deserves legal representation, even the guilty. Right or wrong, it's just how our system works. The law departments view shouldn't have been "this person is obviously innocent - we should get involved and help them". It should have been "these cases are high profile cases that will involve a lot of complex legal issues and will teach our law students a lot of valuable lessons that will make them better lawyers in the future. We should be involved." In my opinion, of course...
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They took this long because despite what most believe, universities are exceptionally political. They have been targeted by RIAA in the past and did not want to lose potentially millions in legal fees at a time when enrollment is dropping due to rising costs. Ethical discourse is a luxury that few universities can afford right now; As you might notice, all of the universities to date have been financially well-off.
As to the position the law departments' take, I would point out that they are under no ethical
Re:Why?... (Score:5, Interesting)
Part of the problem is stigma. Let's say there was a high-profile child pornography ring in the city where the university is. Under the concept of "everyone deserves representation", shouldn't the law school assemble an army of lawyers to help out in the defense of the accused?
No, they wouldn't because the local (and maybe national) press would utterly crucify the school, the professors and the students.
Now, the RIAA is interesting because the battle is clearly over the University's rights to shield their students, no matter what the students do. In a lot of ways, the University may be right that they can shield the students and are not required to expend any resources on the behalf of the RIAA attempting to track down the students. It might even be that all the students were doing is covered by fair use. However, it is highly likely that the student's activities are in fact infringing on copyrights and shielding them isn't a great policy.
The one problem is that no matter how "wrong" the students may be, forcing the University to do anything at all in support of a lawsuit against the students would seem to be an unpopular move.
And besides, everyone that knows how is downloading stuff today. Free has won the day and paying for digital stuff is unlikely to ever come back into favor.
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And, really, it doesn't matter if the students being targeted were guilty.
Nitpick: in our society, no one is guilty until a court has found them so. The students (and speeders and murderers and pedophiles) are innocent until that instant, which is why every deserves good representation.
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In addition, you can still be "guilty in the eyes of the public" long before you've even had a trial and even long after your innocence has been proven in a court of law. Suppose a teacher was arrested for possession of child pornography and had a high-profile trial. Even if the teacher was cleared of all charges, the public would still see the teacher as a threat to their children and would force the school to fire him/her. The public wouldn't care that all of the evidence proved that he/she was innocen
Re:Why?... (Score:5, Informative)
These law schools aren't necessarily representing their own students -- more than likely, they're representing average people who don't have the means to defend themselves.
Correct. In this case, the defendant is just an average person who doesn't have the means to defend herself. (By the way, almost nobody has "the means to defend themselves" in a federal copyright infringement litigation, let alone one brought by the unscrupulous vipers the RIAA uses.)
"Free" as in beer High profile Trainning! (Score:2, Interesting)
Great, now this law schools are really delivering what they promise. High profile, real case of study against mayor law firms.
Lots of legal battles to teach their students the ways of the corporate warfare...
They students not only will have Harvard Law Student in their resume, also RIAA legal case.
For the fee this universities collect, they have found a new way to train legal sharks...
I should patent this "field training from school active model" :D
Ok. Where do i donate ? (Score:2)
granted, im gonna donate 10 bucks, but i do this frequently.
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dont these people have a site they take donations for the effort, or we just donate to eff.org ?
Yes you can! Go here [piercelaw.edu] to donate to the Franklin Pierce Law Center. Let them know why you're doing it, too, because you appreciate the courageous work that their law clinic is doing on behalf of Mavis Roy.
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BUT: "Circumstantial" does not mean any of the following, about evidence: (1) inadmissible; (2) insufficient to prove a fact in court; or (3) unreliable. You can be convicted of murder based on nothing but circumstantial evidence, if it is strong enough. Otherwise, murderers who hide their victims' bodies the best could not be convicted. And the RIAA only has to prove infringement by a preponderance of the evidence, a much lower standard of proof than beyond a reasonable doubt as required for a criminal conviction.
This is about the RIAA's abuse of the discovery process and, in particular, its filing lawsuits for the sole purpose of collecting evidence through discovery. You personally can't just send me interrogatories without having a pending lawsuit against me, and you also can't file a lawsuit whose only purpose is to allow you to send me interrogatories. And that's what the RIAA is apparently doing...
=Smidge=
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All the so called evidence is circustantial
I often find my case is helped when cross examination is delivered from the trapeze. Though I find the judge is not amused when I use the clown car to approach the bench.
Its Standardized Education (Score:5, Insightful)
A class where students get into groups and provide legal council in different cases that almost all look the same? Computer science students can get identical computers, biologists can dissect many of the same species, but I don' think before the RIAA started going sue happy across the country was there such an opportunity to standardize a law class year after year fighting the same case in a real courtroom over and over again.
This is going to help real people, but realistically I hope it doesn't last long. I can just see it now: RIAA gets bailout from congress to save law school curriculum across country. HA!
Good law schools should really take advantage of this opportunity. I think schools could be judged by this for how up to date they are and how much they really care about their lawyers getting real experience in the classroom.
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Good law schools should really take advantage of this opportunity. I think schools could be judged by this for how up to date they are and how much they really care about their lawyers getting real experience in the classroom.
I agree, and Franklin Pierce happens to be one of those institutions that really cares about getting its students real-world, law-practice, experience [piercelaw.edu].
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I can attest to that, having graduated from FPLC. They had extensive externship opportunities (actually working for an entire semester in lieu of classes), clinics, competitions. They are best known as being an IP school so they are particularly well suited for this sort of work in fighting the RIAA.
1. As someone who worked in a law firm all the time I was in law school, I know from personal experience that getting the practical experience along with the law school curriculum is an incredibly valuable part of one's legal education.
2. You have good reason to be proud of your alma mater. This is really in the finest tradition of our profession.
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Did the lady infringe? (Score:2)
Did the lady being defended by valiant students and faculty actually infringe on RIAA's intellectual property?
Welcome to the Real World (Score:2)
Now how long before the RIAA starts filing protests on how public money is financing the cases against them (and the need for Congressional action to Stop That Now), or targeting those schools providing such assistance for "enhanced enforcement" actions?
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..And they better hurry since that show ("Boston Legal") is in it its final, truncated, season.
It was already covered in The Paper Chase...oh wait, I'm giving away my age again.
That bogus "deadline" is a canard! Besides the Paper Chase, "Boston Legal" was also preceded by "L.A. Law", and probably others too numerous to remember; they can *always* make a sequel.
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Rightly or wrongly, the legal profession enjoys somewhat the same level of public approval as your average used car salesman. The fact that law students fighting the RIAA are looked on as the good guys shows you what complete douchebags the RIAA really are.
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I swore off biting trolls but dammit, I guess I'm relapsing. Guess I need trollbiter rehab.
If you're spewing out copies of music, movies, or software, it's because information wants to be free and copyright infringement != theft...
If I'm spewing out copies of music, movies, or software, it's because the writers WANTED it to be "spewed out", like most file sharers. Like Lessig said in his book, of the three kinds of P2P, only one can possibly harm the artist, and the other three actually help. P2P is no more a threat to the entertainment industries than the VCR and cassette were. It's only a threat to the established but outmoded business practices. Everyone else from musicians to film makers are using P2P constructively.
Information doesn't want anything. I guess you could anthropomorphise and say "information wants to be free like compressed gas wants to escape", or you could just say "when information isn't free, neither are you."
However, copyright infringement is indeed not theift. Neither is smoking dope or jaywalking. Extortion IS theift, which is exactly what the RIAA is doing, Mr. Record Company Executive (you guys must get some killer cocaine to be such greedy, selfish, heartless bastards).
unless you're messing with open-source software
No, it's still not theift. It's copyright infringement.
The rest of your incredibly stupid rant is beneath discussion. Go back under your bridge.
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Four kinds of P2P, not 3. That was a typo, sorry
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If I'm spewing out copies of music, movies, or software, it's because the writers WANTED it to be "spewed out", like most file sharers.
If content producers WANTED their content freely distributed to anyone and everyone with no restrictions, they wouldn't band together into associations like the RIAA, MPAA or FSF to protect their rights. Yes, the tactics of the RIAA in particular are reprehensible and ill-conceived. Yes, they will never be able to put the P2P genii back in the bottle. But, for now, that's the way the system works.
The laws that protect Metallica are the ones that also protect GPL'd software.
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For every band that is on an RIAA label there are 100 that are not. Copyright law doen't protect the musicians like it protects GPL programmers, it protects the GPL while not protecting the RIAA musician whatever; musicians' labor is "works for hire" under US copyright law; they work for the label, like a cook works for McDonald's or a programmer works for Microsoft. Like a Microsoft programmer, an RIAA musician does not own the "intellectual property" he creates.
For every RIAA song recorded in the 21st cen
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Copyright law doen't protect the musicians like it protects GPL programmers, it protects the GPL while not protecting the RIAA musician whatever; musicians' labor is "works for hire" under US copyright law...
I specifically didn't use the term "musician" when referring to the constituency of the RIAA. I used the term "content producer". The record labels, for better or worse, are the *producers* of the music, the artists themselves are merely employees(read: bitches) of the record labels. The big record labels, through the RIAA, are trying to protect their copyrights. The FSF does much the same for GPL'd code, whose copyright they control.
Most "content producers" WANT their work shared.
And right now, under current law, the copyright holder gets to choose whet
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The record labels, for better or worse, are the *producers* of the music
Not really. Usually the producer is some guy who's a performer himself, and who is as exploited by the record company as the artist is. The record labels in actuality 'produce' nothing but a little bit of hype and a lot of money for themselves.
the artists themselves are merely employees(read: bitches) of the record labels
Yes the artists are the bitches. Although the customers of these "Big 4" record companies might also be thought of as "bitches", since they basically eat what they are fed.
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Indeed P2P is a great threat to all creators that use a digital medium. It is simple - I and everyone else on the Internet has a choice now. We can consume for free, or we can consume and pay. It is a simple and obvious choice.
I can choose to pay for what I download. I can use many differe
Re:Remember, kids! (Score:5, Insightful)
care to explain why Cory Doctorow's Little Brother sells well despite being on the internet? Look it up and read the introduction for his excellent reasons for doing so.
Everyone is listening to the RIAA's bullshit, good thing we dodn't listen to the MPAA when Heston said "the VCR is to movies like Jack the Ripper is to women." Logical, reasonable, but dead wrong.
No artist has ever starved from having his works given away, but many have starved from obscurity.
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care to explain why Cory Doctorow's Little Brother sells well despite being on the internet?
Because I can't make a paper book at my house, for pennies. To most people, a digital copy of a book is of less value than the real thing; while a mp3 is, arguably, more valuable than a CD. The portability and flexibility can't be beat. Kudos to Cory Doctorow for using an innovative promotional model to market his book. But, I think music is a horse of a different color. There just isn't enough value-added for music to make the kosher download or CD attractive versus the free one.
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I think he really meant Nancy Reagan, who compared a cuisinart to the hamburglar.
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P2P is great for the creators of art. It's bad for the distributors and producers who control the industry, and want to stay in control. I'm most saddened when I see artists give in to the brainwashing the music executives do to them and come out against it.
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I'm most saddened when I see artists give in to the brainwashing the music executives do to them and come out against it.
Most performers today totally get it... and can't wait for their recording agreement commitments to be over.
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P2P is no more a threat to the entertainment industries than the VCR and cassette were.
But the "VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone"!!! Jack Valenti told us that, and he wouldn't lie, would he?
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Could have been worse. She could have been named "Seigfried".
[yeah, I know Roy is her last name]
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Don't universities gather great amounts of intellect?
These days universities seem focused mainly on gathering political correctness. Fortunately, there are still a few bright spots.