Boxee Launches New API 69
A recent post on the boxee blog announces the release of a new, fully documented API that will allow developers to create and share new apps and plugins. "The new boxee API enables developers to build sophisticated applications (such as the Pandora and RadioTime apps) using a set of API calls in Python and writing the GUI using XML. ... Users can install new applications via the boxee App Box, the beginnings of our app store. Unlike other app stores, boxee does not want to be a gate keeper (or bottleneck) in deciding which applications are published so anyone can become a publisher." A complete description is available at their developers page. I'm sure this will help in their ongoing battle with Hulu.
Say what? (Score:5, Insightful)
I also understand that if they aren't thinking big, they might as well not even try (think you can or think you can't..) but I just don't see this being even remotely successful. People use their iPhone because its "cool" and want it to do everything their computer does while they're on the road. If you want the functionality of a computer while you're in your living room, get up and walk to your office.
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And even after their own device is out, how many people are going to buy it [b]and[/b] buy plugins for it?
isn't that the iphone model?
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If you want the functionality of a computer while you're on the road, get out your laptop.
a good incentive (Score:2)
An app store is an excellent incentive for developers to invest the time to create Boxee plugins. That's something missing from MythTV. For instance, I'd like to see a MAME plugin for Boxee. Who's going to integrate it? With an app store, there's the possibility people will pay a buck or two for each installation.
Also, the barrier to entry for Boxee is much less than other set-top platforms. It runs as a standalone application on Mac OS X (intel), Ubuntu, and WinXP. You can install the application, start
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> I understand that they are working on getting hardware created, but they are expecting people to pay for little applets that will run under boxee on hardware that you either had to build yourself or hack to even run it in the first place?
Um, I don't think anywhere it suggests that this will be a paid for store. It looks to be a directory for people to distribute plugins. Publishers are then free to set up their own repositories of apps. More like the 'Podcast Directory' in iTunes than the 'iTunes Store
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Actually the Plex Media Server is closed source even through Plex itself is open source. I like Plex a lot but I don't like the fact that they don't want to share it with XBMC or Boxee. So I'll probably be switching soon.
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... but they are expecting people to pay for little applets that will run under boxee on hardware that you either had to build yourself or hack to even run it in the first place?
I just installed the new release with Pandora and it works fine om my mac mini so far. No hacking required.
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Although the Boxee developers release builds for Windows, Mac, and Linux, it's always seemed to me that they hope to get their product bundled with set-top boxes sold by hardware manufacturers. Even now, Apple TV users form the largest part of their user base. Boxee is basically taking XBMC, building social networking around it (they even go so far as to *require* you to create an account), and releasing the result as a semi-proprietary bundle.
Now that Apple has shown just how profitable an app store can be
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Sure they only care about us... (Score:2)
I hope it works, but don't try to scam me into thinking it's for the good of the community.
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Apparently. Or have they started showing a profit?
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What BS. They only do this to make money. ...
I hope it works, but don't try to scam me into thinking it's for the good of the community.
Why are people so enraged over this? To me it sounds like they built a repository system where other repositories can be added, which is, in my opinion, essential for a remote-driven system. Why would you want to get up, go over to a keyboard, find the plugin from the site you want, download, and then install it when you can just click over to the 'app store' and push one button to download and install.
Also, if other people want to put a lot of time and effort into their plugins and then charge for them,
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I for one welcome our quazi-Nazi Communist pedophile OSS fucking freetard Overlords.
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Nobody can answer this 2-part question honestly: What is Boxee doing wrong to piss off Hulu? What is PlayOn ($40 dlna server) doing right that lets me stream Hulu from my XP box to my Xbox 360, PS3, Popcorn Hour or any other dlna client via transcoding the FLV stream?
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Hulu doesn't have a license to serve content through Boxee. Hulu pays a fee to show the programs that it does. I'd be shocked if the license provides for the redistribution to outside entities that aren't a party to the licensing agreement.
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So, does Hulu's content pass through Boxee's servers and then Boxee redistributes to its users? That's what the problem is then? With PlayOn, Hulu goes straight to my computer where it's transcoded and made available on my home network. The funny part is that I can connect to the PlayOn stream with Boxee if I add it as a source (although I prefer XBMC).
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What is Boxee doing wrong to piss off Hulu?
The problem isn't with Boxee per-se or necessarily Hulu. It is with the content providers that give Hulu its content (and I think own Hulu).
Boxee is making it easy for people to watch Internet videos on your TV. That is what is scaring the content providers. They DO NOT want you to link (physically or mentally) your TV with free internet based video. Because then you might realize you don't need to pay for your expensive cable subscription when you can just wait a day and watch it on Hulu when you want to.
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But most TVs sold over the past few years, at least the HDTV LCD and Plasma ones (but not my SDTV unfortunately) have at least one DB15 (vga) or HDMI input. There really isn't much to stop even a fairly clueless tech user from hooking a laptop up to their TV and watching Hulu on the TV. I do think you are right, oracleguy01, that the content providers are trying to make a distinction between TV and PC, but the with the way these thing
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If you wish me to believe that then you need to provide a plausible explanation of why the content providers are afraid. You have not done th
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You're absolutely wrong. I've already pointed this out in another thread and it's been covered in multiple places since Boxee was banned from Hulu.
The cable/sat companies are the driving force behind this issue. The advertising revenue is actually DOWN right now. The cable companies paying for content actually make up the largest part of revenue for the content creators.
Content providers actually get to double dip right now. They cable/sat companies pay for the content and they get, if the ad is national (s
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She's kind of like the distilled essence of a certain type of girl that some HATE with a passion, and others LOVE with the same strength. I have a feeling she's actually a fairly clever girl with lots of deliberately affected mannerisms.
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I have a feeling you only said that because you secretly hope she reads Slashdot and will now like you.
Re App Store (Score:1)
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Upcoming Boxee features (Score:2)
Upcoming Boxee features include:
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An asthmatic cyborg Ewok-thing
I knew General Grievous was evil, but he was an Ewok too? Wow, that blows my mind.
Been done on Plex (Score:4, Informative)
This looks very similar to what they're doing with the Mac fork of XBMC, Plex. It's very cool how they implemented it, basically making Plex a frontend for Safari with the plug-in defining the area of the browser that the video is in. This way, as far as the site is concerned, someone is using the browser like normal.
They also have an App Store but it's not designed to be for pay, and I would doubt the Boxee one is either. I had never used Python before but I was able to whip up some plug-ins which are now available in the store.
http://www.plexapp.com/ [plexapp.com]
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All girls do. But they change randomly, and you can never make any assumptions about the APIs...
There was a better joke in here somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Damn nicotine withdrawal.
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Use an e-cigarette [wikipedia.org] to smoke, my good man!
64 bit, dammit (Score:2)
I signed up for boxxee to check it out, but the only machine I have that would possibly be capable of playing with it on is runing 64 bit ubuntu. Grrrr.
Maybe I'll give the xbmc livecd a try instead.
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While not a deb solution, this thread provides a script that will completely build boxee 0.9.10-5534 on your Ubuntu 8.10 x86_64 machine.
http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=7497 [boxee.tv]
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I'm actually the author of that thread, and should have a new version for the 0.9.11.5591 release out soon (hopefully tonight). There are still some bugs on the 64bit version (I think there's a bug in their md5 hashing script), but it's not difficult to make it work.
Box lunches? (Score:1)