Fifty Meter Asteroid Might Hit Earth In 2098 295
eldavojohn writes "The Bad Astronomer brings word of an asteroid discovered with a tiny chance of hitting Earth. While it's only 50 meters wide, it could have the impact of a 20 megaton bomb. It's still twenty million miles away so if it hits us, it won't happen until 2098. The real story here is how a remarkable telescope, dubbed Panoramic Survey Telescope & Rapid Response System, that went operational in May found its first potential target in our growing impact alert system for Earth."
i'll be dead (Score:2, Funny)
don't care.. sorry..
Re:i'll be dead (Score:5, Funny)
Fuck you. I'll be 133 years old hooked up to machines and tubes.
I CARE
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In that case you'll appreciate the meteorite putting you out of your misery.
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The tubes didn't save Ted, they won't save you either.
Re:i'll be dead (Score:5, Funny)
Re:i'll be dead (Score:4, Funny)
Get off my synthilawn you Dawkindarned thirtynagers!
And... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Surely you can't be serious!
Looks like I picked the wrong century to quit drinking!
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... and the ZOMBIE Beatles may reunite, or not.
Happy now?
Re:And... (Score:5, Funny)
All you need is brainz! All you need is brainz! All you need is brainz brainz... brainz is all you need.
when I find myself in times of trouble, mother mary comes to me... and I eat her brainz, its yummy, its yummy.
yesterday, my mortality was so far away, but i find that I am rotting today. oh i believe in yesterday
Key Words: (Score:5, Insightful)
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Mod parent up (Score:2)
Absolutely right, emphasis on the tiny chance. Where are my mod points...
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Wow, 20 megatons, that sounds bad. If medicine advances to the point where I can live well past 120 years old (and I mean live, like really live, not an existence consumed by mostly writhing around in agony), and I happen to live where this thing might hit, by then I'm afraid I'll be too set in my ways to want to move out of the armageddon zone.
If this thing were going to hit where I live today I'd start a new life in a new city like that...by comparison I'm young, I'll roll with the punches. But I'm going
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I know you are trying to be funny, but you still should have replied the GP here, not me.
How can it destroy the Earth? (Score:2)
When my Mayan calendar runs out in just a few short months?
"Bomb the rubble", Mr. Asteroid!
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Take the year 2098... subtract the left wing anti-Christ(43)... subtract the right wing anti-Christ(44)... carry the asteroid(1)...
2012!!! THE MAYANS WERE RIGHT!!!!
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Re:How can it destroy the Earth? (Score:5, Funny)
I'm eligible for retirement in 2012, so the world as I know it will surely end. Don't know about the rest of you guys, though. More importantley...
Our calendar ends on Dec 31st of THIS YEAR! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!
You gotta love this guy. (Score:2)
(emphasis mine)
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He's going to be a lot of fun at parties towards the end of 2012
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Well... (Score:2)
Thankfully most of us will be dead by then.
Re:Well... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Which would be a good reason to nuke it from orbit. Only way of making sure this copyright disease doesn't spread.
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Steamboat Willie will still be copyrighted.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry about that. :-P
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Take action Now! (Score:3, Funny)
First, let's figure out what this "Nature" is and what it wants. Then, let's stop it in its tracks!
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I see what you did there.
Who will save us? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Who will save us? (Score:5, Funny)
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shouldn't we just freeze them on general principle? Just to get them out of the music scene once and for all?
Re:Who will save us? (Score:4, Funny)
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I don't know about that, Aerosmith seems pretty against cryogenics.
I don't wanna close my eyes
I don't wanna fall asleep
We're all dead ! We're all gonna die! (Score:2)
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Good news!!!!!!!! (Score:3, Funny)
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How the hell do we launch something that big, I didn't think our rockets had that kind of lift capacity?
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Much like African Swallows, you need a couple rockets and a string...
Is it REALLY that bad? (Score:2, Informative)
An impact by something like that is about the same as exploding a 20 megaton bomb.
So yeah, bad.
Wiki [wikipedia.org]:
The largest nuclear weapon ever tested was the "Tsar Bomba" of the Soviet Union at Novaya Zemlya on October 30, 1961, with an estimated yield of around 50 megatons.
So this impact would be 40% of the Soviet test. How badly did the Soviet test harm the Earth?
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3% of the Earth's surface is urban area, so chances are it won't hit a heavily populated area.
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Not only that, it can only hit half of the earth at any given point, so it goes down to a ~1.5% chance.
Re:Is it REALLY that bad? (Score:4, Funny)
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20MT in the sea? No it really won't do much in the way of tsunamis.
FTA - "An object a bit smaller than that carved out Meteor Crater in Arizona." So less than 1.5km wide, that'd make a smallish hole in the ocean, but nothing like that feared landslide from the Azores.
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Not much. Kind of a bummer if the asteroid isn't nice enough to land in an uninhabited part of Siberia though.
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It wouldn't be an extinction level event or anything like that, but it would almost certainly ruin the day of anyone nearby where it did hit. And even if we could get advanced warning of where it would hit and evacuate all the people, if it heads towards a city, that's a lot of property/infrastructure/housing that will be obliterated. So not necessarily catastrophic, but probably not particularly great either.
Although if we figured out that it was going to hit somewhere basically unpopulated and un-utilized
Re:Is it REALLY that bad? (Score:4, Interesting)
That test was an air burst. In any case a nuclear weapon delivers its energy as heat while a meteorite delivers its as kinetic energy so the effects are not going to be the same even when the energy is.
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Heat is kinetic energy.
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Methinks a lot of that meteorite's kinetic energy will be tranformed into heat almost instantly upon impact, vaporizing a lot of stuff. It's the blast -- the heat-induced expansion of atmosphere and vaporized material that will create most damage methinks.
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Depends on where it hits. A single 50 megaton nuclear bomb doesn't really do much to the earth, long term. Obviously, the Soviet bomb hasn't had any lasting environmental impacts worldwide. However, they exploded that bomb near the Arctic Circle in an unpopulated, desolate place. If it had been in the middle of Hawaii, that probably wouldn't be much of a vacation spot now.
A 20Mt asteroid hitting in the middle of the ocean would be a big and interesting event, but nothing to be too concerned about. Howe
WOLF WOLF WOLF (Score:2, Interesting)
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It's not really their fault, this isn't "Oh no, we're all going to die!" (that was, of course how the media sold it to their readers), the real press release was "Hurray, our new telescope works!".
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By the time we see it, it's already too late. Press releases like this help us know the danger so we put some $$$ into finding these things.
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Well, if it's a comet, it might be called Wolf-Biederman ...
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Now, for the people who have the understanding of this kind of thing they know how to ready these reports without getting their panties in a bunch. They're the people who matter. They're the ones who are going to determine what should be done when. Or do you think we should not report on any information if it doesn't involve the mass population? In that case most news websites can be boi
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And if they don't, what will people like you say to the astronomers when an asteroid really comes close?
Oh, right. You'll bitch they didn't tell anyone.
good news (Score:2)
Well finally some good news after all this doom and gloom lately.
Hope it hits something that needs to be hit and solves some sort of a problem of that time.
2098? (Score:2)
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88 years until Bellus!!!! (Score:2)
Bellus is approaching!
Not as impressive as it sounds (Score:3, Interesting)
From the summary:
Which sounds impressive - until you realize just how empty the Earth really is. Across probably 80% of the Earth, a 20 meg explosion will produce few (if any) casualties. Doubly so since that size range is likely to breakup and deposit most of it's energy in the upper atmosphere.
Phil, you've done lots of good stuff, but you're just reaching for the hits and ad impressions with this one.
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Certainly much better than the number of political articles that make the front page here who's only real purpose is to start flame wars.
Big Deal? (Score:3, Informative)
Of course, I'm sure where it strikes will make a bit of difference.
A catalyst for world peace (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:A catalyst for world peace (Score:4, Insightful)
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It's paraphrased from the movie or comic "Watchmen" In the movie the rally point was Dr. Manhattan which actually made more sense then the original comic being some new random alien squid thing.
Re:A catalyst for world peace (Score:4, Insightful)
As the remaining fighters realize they have more to gain from trade than from fighting, then wars will continue to cease.
telescoped? (Score:2, Funny)
Usage: "here is how a remarkable telescoped
If I'm alive... (Score:2)
If I'm still alive then, I'll head to the expected impact site. Best funeral pyre ever!
WE"RE ALL GONNA DIE! (Score:2)
I mean, someday. But probably not from this. Most of us will be dead from something else long before.
the odds will only get smaller.... (Score:4, Insightful)
They JUST found this thing. The amount of data available to determine it's orbit isn't enough to know exactly where it is going. HOWEVER when they dig up some old sky photos they will find earlier positions of this thing. The more earlier data points the better they will be able to predict it's path. Usually this means that the odds of an Earth impact will go down. It's happened before with other newly discovered objects.
Not worried... (Score:2)
I still have 88 years to invent warp drive :)
author shouldn't be reporting on science (Score:4, Informative)
The /. summary reads " It's still twenty million miles away so if it hits us, it won't happen until 2098". This statement seems to imply that because it is 20 million miles away it will take 88 years to get here. That implies a very poor understanding of basic math and science skills. 20 million miles is just not that much in terms of astronomy. The earth is about 93 million miles from the sun, and covers a distance of over 300 million miles each year as it falls around the sun. 20 million miles would not take this rock 88 years to reach us, the real issue is that its orbit and the earth's orbit don't intersect until 2098. Until then the rock may be closer or farther than 20 million miles from us, the 20 million is just a distance it was away from us at one time.
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Past events and geologic timespans (Score:5, Insightful)
I was thinking recently that we were lucky that most of the ecosphere-killing events in our history were astoundingly long ago and that our local space should be pretty clear by now. And then I realized that the dinosaur extinction event that happened 65 million years ago took place when the Earth was about 98.6% as old as it is now. If the Earth was now a day old, the dinosaurs were wiped out at 11:40PM. Suddenly those past catastrophes seemed not as comfortingly ancient.
Re:No problem, send in a driller (Score:4, Funny)
Well, Bruce Willis' head in a jar at least.
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Well, Bruce Willis' head in a jar at least.
To get to the asteroid well ahead of impact, we have to send Bruce Willis' head in a jar right now.
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Who knows, we might actually have half of the space technologies in that movie available in 2098 if NASA keeps up it's stellar pace of innovation.
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It's this kind of short-term thinking that will result in the destruction of the human race.
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Well, I'm guessing it isn't on a direct course for Earth, and is traveling through the solar system on some eccentric orbit around the Sun. Also, once it gets here (if it gets here), it will accelerate both as it gets closer to the Sun's gravity well and as it gets closer to Earth's gravity well (the latter especially as it enters the atmosphere).
If it is headed directly for Earth, though, like "They're on a direct course for Sector 001," we're in trouble.
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it will accelerate both as it gets closer to the Sun's gravity well and as it gets closer to Earth's gravity well (the latter especially as it enters the atmosphere).
I rather think it will decelerate when it hits the dense atmosphere, but your point still stands.
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Well, I'm guessing it isn't on a direct course for Earth, .
Duh! It is not on a direct course to Earth. It is on the galactic superhighway that happens to pass through the Solar System. The planned highway notification has been filed long ago in Alpha Centauri. You would have know if had cared enough to look.
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But even if it isn't, anything weighing 110 million pounds, hitting the Earth at 26 MPH, would saturate pretty much every seismograph on the planet. Sure, some of the material will burn off in the atmosphere, but Earth's gravity will compensate for the lost mass via acceleration.
Impact in your PJs (Score:2)
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But Tony won't let the Air Force have the plans, what a wet blanket he is.
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If you wait for there to be a present danger, you drastically reduce your options for preventative action. Even a 50 meter asteroid is MASSIVE compared to anything we have in orbit and it could take decades to design and implement a response capable of deflecting such an orbit.
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You won't see alerts on each one. This is the first one from this telescope, and they're pretty happy about it.
The way these things are done is that any discovered small bodies are found, solved, and stored in a database (the aptly named Small Body Database at JPL for instance). If they are classified as potentially hazardous (the formal definition is passing within a certain distance of the Earth's orbit I believe), then they will be tagged as such.
Small body survey instruments will then be tasked to che
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Nobody is panicking, no one is running around with their hands in the air.
Stop exaggerating to make incorrect predictions.
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Or just a journalist that doesn't know anything about orbits and misunderstood the information he was given.
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And every president since has been more showman than leader.
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Yes, but not Mr. Reagan... a man who spent the entirety of his life making films in Hollywood. No sir, not a showman at all.
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HW was a weak showman but also a weak leader, so I think that counts. Clinton was always a showman, and quite a good one. W was pure PT Barnum, he actually had people believing that he was a Texas cowboy and not a Connecticut Yankee. "There's a sucker born every minute" is the only way to explain Bush's two terms.
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oblig. (Score:2)
Leave Paris alone, can't you see she's suffered enough.
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Couldn't you have used just the Unit System the whole world uses???
By that logic they should have also written it in Chinese, the most popular language on the planet. However, /. is U.S. centric and so using miles is perfectly rational. It might have been better to not give a measurement is meters. but those of us in the U.S. are not as up tight about that sort of thing as some people. Now excuse me while I open another 2 litter Coke.