Crime Writer Makes a Killing With 99 Cent E-Books 445
Hugh Pickens writes writes "Joe Konrath has an interesting interview with independent writer John Locke who currently holds the coveted #1 spot in the Amazon Top 100 and has sold just over 350,000 downloads on Kindle of his 99 cent books since January 1st of this year, which, with a royalty rate of 35%, is an annual income well over $500k. Locke says that 99 cents is the magic number and adds that when he lowered the price of his book The List from $2.99 to 99 cents, he started selling 20 times as many copies — about 800 a day, turning his loss lead into his biggest earner. 'These days the buying public looks at a $9.95 eBook and pauses. It's not an automatic sale,' says Locke. 'And the reason it's not is because the buyer knows when an eBook is priced ten times higher than it has to be. And so the buyer pauses. And it is in this pause—this golden, sweet-scented pause—that we independent authors gain the advantage, because we offer incredible value.' Kevin Kelly predicts that within 5 years all digital books will cost 99 cents. 'I don't think publishers are ready for how low book prices will go,' writes Kelly. 'It seems insane, dangerous, life threatening, but inevitable.'"
Way too high (Score:3)
Considering the limitations of Electronic Books; can't give them to friends or family to read, can't resell them, can't return them, can have them pulled without notice, the price is way too high.
I've purchased a few novels at the too high price since I got my iPad but so far only the ones I already have in paperback and really love to read. I have picked up a few 99 cent books at recommendation from others and generally they're an ok read.
I've spent a lot more on gaming PDFs, especially the non-watermarked DRM'd ones (Shadowrun from the Battlecorps website).
[John]
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If every book was 99 cents it would hardly be a big deal. You could buy the book for friends and family and it could still end up cheaper than what you pay already.
Seriously, 99 cents is "too high" because you can't resell or return the book? Who would need to buy a "used" copy if books were that cheap anyway? That's cheaper than most current used books already!
And why would you need to return an eBook - it's hardly going to be defective, and if the download was in fact corrupted, they would push it out to
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5-20% below list price would be nice. Since Apple jumped into the fray and Amazon lost its hold on the market, books have gone up a LOT. These days its not even remotely uncommon to see the e-book at 5% off the hardcover price... even when the paperback is out.
A perfect example -- a couple months ago I was at a talk/book signing. The author's hardcover book was for sale for $10 (and he'd sign it for that) -- not an unreasonable price. Amazon's kindle price? $35. Needless to say, I neither was going to pay 3
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Considering the limitations of Electronic Books; can't give them to friends or family to read
At least on the nook, you are able to lend books to other people. There are whole forums dedicated to lending ebooks.
And if it's a family member, you can just share a single B&N account and have full access to the library without even having to lend anything.
can't resell them
This! This is the single biggest problem with ebooks. I'd love to be able to re-sell some of my ebooks after I'm done with them.
can have them pulled without notice
Depends on the format and the delivery mechanism. If you've bought your book through Amazon with their Kindle, yeah,
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I agree, and seeing the AppStore platform work so well for all those apps available to you with a small click of a button and a small charge of .99cents *usually), you will see many pop one here, or there, and at the end of the month the bill ends up being like a 10$ for all these apps(or in this case ebooks).
I TOLD you. (Score:5, Insightful)
digital goods are easily distributable. make it something cheap that noone will hesitate to pay for, and A LOT of people will buy it - even people who think 'hey i may read/use this in future' may buy it if its 99 cents. same goes for games. a lot of people will buy games that they will never play, just to have them handy, or in their collection, or to have a more complete game arsenal. a lot of people will buy your software if its cheap, just to have it handy if they ever need it to do anything at some random point in time in future.
there is nothing barring you from doing that. the bandwidth costs are low, they are going down and down continually. you dont have to reproduce a digital good. all you need is :
- an easy to use website to buy from, and a short, easy checkout procedure
- a payment provider that is easy to use. (or a reliable credit card payment method)
- a digital download.
its THAT simple. no really, it is THAT simple. and the example is, in the article above.
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make it something cheap that noone will hesitate to pay for, and A LOT of people will buy it
Would I steal something that "costs" $100? How about $1? Thats pretty much free. Less that two vending machine soda cans. I'm guessing the dollar store has a lot less shoplifting than "upscale" Target or Kohls.
I think intellectually the marketing people don't understand that when I pay $10 or more I'm thinking "own a book". Even if its digital thus I do not own it. But at $1 I'm thinking thats like a delivery charge or a tax to make it magically download itself into my kindle ipad app and its the fee
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The question is whether it is just because he's one 99 cent man in a 9.99$ world or if it works just as well if the prediction comes through that all books will be 99 cents. It's highly unlikely that people on average would spend significantly more time reading books in their limited spare time and with so many other forms of education and entertainment.
That Angry Birds makes a killing at 99 cent is good for them, but it only works because they grab such a big piece of the market. On average I don't think t
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That Angry Birds makes a killing at 99 cent is good for them, but it only works because they grab such a big piece of the market.
yes, and they only grab such a big piece of the market because their app is 99 cents. I mean, seriously? Correlation vs. Causation, it's impossible to tease apart here.
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The points of coming in below the pain point and
Re:I TOLD you. (Score:4, Insightful)
No, its not that simple. He sold a ton of 99 cent books (20x the $2.99) because it hit a sweet spot *relative to the other books available*. He got eyeballs because his book stuck out.
If all the books were 99 cents, he'd be lost in the noise and having to sell his book for ten cents to get that kind of bump in sales.
Price is not the issue, exposure is.
This is why he is a literary author, not an economist.
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What's in a name? (Score:2)
$500k? (Score:2)
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It is wrong, it's 350 000 from January 1st to today, not for a 12 month period.
So it's 350 000 in 67 days or 5224 per day, so 1 906 716 per year
1 905 716 * 0.99 *0.35 = 660 677$
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$660,677 is well over $500,000 How are they wrong?
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I never said that the article was wrong, I was answering the parent poster who said "maybe my math is wrong".
Just like the music industry (Score:5, Insightful)
Just like the music industry, the electronic distribution of books has the publishers running scared. Writers are finally waking up to the fact that without the need to actually print books, they have no need of monolithic publishing houses whatsoever. They can self-publish with little to no overhead and keep the profits for themselves. $9.95 (or more, oftentimes) is an abso-friggin-lutely ridiculous price to charge for an e-book.
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Re:Just like the music industry (Score:5, Insightful)
Writers are finally waking up to the fact that without the need to actually print books, they have no need of monolithic publishing houses whatsoever.
Not entirely true. The publishing houses don't just provide printing and distribution, they provide editing, publicity, a route into brick-and-mortar retail locations, and often money to live off while an author is writing. Those are all important things.
I'm not saying there's no way around them -- for instance, many authors still work a day job anyway, and there are good free-lance editors available for hire -- but they're a good "one stop" way to get them.
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Printing and distribution? Don't need it for e-books.
Editing? Have you SEEN the shit quality of editing in e-books? Some of it is so bad it is surely being done on purpose.
Publicity? This one I'll give you.
Route into brick and mortar? B&M bookstores are dying. Why pay a premium to get into a dying business model.
Money to live on? Well if it didn't take 2+ years to go from concept to market perhaps it wouldn't be such a big deal.
I'm still failing to see what the big deal is about publishers.
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Distribution is still an issue. Yes, you put it on kindle, it's on the kindle store. But it's not at Barnes and Noble, so people with their reader can't get it. It's not on a publisher's web-site so people with non-branded readers can't get it. (Well... not without breaking the DRM, anyway, which is easy for people here, but not as easy for the most people.)
Editing is still an issue. The fact that it's terrible right now doesn't mean it isn't necessary. My personal theory is that the big publishers ar
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I think you are making a mistake here. Now-a-days the power in the book industry it's not in the hands of the publishing houses, but in the hands of the distributors: Amazon, Barns & Noble, etc. These are the predators of the business and the ones bullying publishing houses and the writers with them.
Art quality cannot be measured in sale numbers. If the business model becomes: write some mediocre crap about vampires full of clichés that every teenager will read and sell it at .99$ for profit, we wo
Poe probably not the best example (Score:2)
we would stop having writers like José Saramago, Vargas Llosa, Orwell, Huxley, Edgar Alan Poe, etc.
Considering Poe had serious gambling debts and long struggled to make any living off his work, then essentially died in a gutter in Baltimore, I'm not sure he's the best example for you to choose. He clearly wasn't in the business to get rich.
In principle, though I agree with you. Quality isn't measured by quantity. J. K. Rowling's or Stephanie Meyer's works might not have artistic merit commensurate with the money they're making. I think the point being made here, though, is that cutting the price has the
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No, the superior authors will be able to charge 5.99 and even in a .99 world they'll get it.
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Well, sort of. I kind of hope that it does work out that way though.
Right now I'm working on my own novel (release in another couple of months, yay!). I'm doing it myself through a POD company, and it will be both print and digital. Doing it that way allows me to keep a much higher part of the sales (which I expect to be in the tens of copies), and more imp
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I'd say there's significant value in professional-level editing. One of the last "books" I read was self-published directly to the web, and while it was good fun and had an interesting premise, it was in dire need of editing/revision. Community input can only do so much.
Of course, just needing editing and maybe a little promotion cuts out a huge chunk of the existing book publishing business. Not to mention retailers.
(If anyone's curious, the novel I mentioned above is The Salvation War [stardestroyer.net]. The writer is a
Can't help but note the incongruity... (Score:2)
Ebooks vs Paperbacks (Score:5, Insightful)
Why would anyone pay $9.95 for an Ebook when your average paperback novel costs the same (or less) at a brick + mortar store? I think the issue is that retailers still see Ebooks as an "upgrade" over a standard paperback, and prices them accordingly. While Ebooks certainly do have many advantages over a paperback, I think people realize that since printing and distribution costs of Ebooks are basicaly zero and should be reflected in a lower price.
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i think its both greed and a catch 22. 9.95 is bout right for a book at a bookstore. so since its the same product the ebook goes for the same price.
logic would say that the cost of distribution is lower so the ebook would be lower.(in reality printing has been pretty cheap anyway so that's not a big deal)
so you lower the ebook to match peoples perceived value (it's the same price i could own something tangible), then people buy more ebooks, but the paperbacks suffer because the ebook is so much cheaper ("i
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The retailers don't have a say in the matter, really. Previously, publishers would set a "wholesale" price for the book and the retailer got to keep whatever margin they wanted. Now all of the major publishers are on an "agency model" where they set the price, and the retailer has to abide by it in exchange for getting a fixed percentage off each sale. It's partly publisher greed and partly Apple's opportunism. They were willing to adopt an agency model for iBooks at a time when Amazon was holding out, and
Similar story from the UK (Score:4, Informative)
Seems reasonable enough, in some cases... (Score:3)
The trick, of course, is locating the price that puts you on that part of the demand curve... I suspect that, for behavioral economics reasons, there are probably weird little discontinuities(ie. 99 cents is an impulse buy, while $1.21 'feels' more significant, even though you might not pick up the difference between the two if you saw those coins scattered on the side of the road...); but, given that the cost of production of a ebook is dominated by the fixed cost of writing the thing, and getting it in some semblance of acceptably typeset order, I suspect that there is a lot to be said for the "stack 'em deep, sell 'em cheap" model.
This does not apply, of course, to low-readership specialty stuff; because you can be assured that you'll never sell more than a smallish number of copies no matter how cheap it is(as with specialist academic texts), nor does it apply to books that can command higher prices because of celebrity authorship or some sort of necessity(ie. Steven King's N+1th book, or a textbook)
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all the economic theories and their founding principles stem from 18th century. they perceive and keep the basis of that reality.
the fact that someone sitting on its ass in a living room would be able to buy something for a dime and have it delivered instantly to its own living room with almost nonexistent cost, was never a reality at any point in time up till this decade.
econ 101, 102, do not apply anymore. many of the people who are buying that book, actually are not even demanding tha
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Nobody ever bought anything "just in case" in the 18th century?
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The trick, of course, is locating the price that puts you on that part of the demand curve...
Bearing in mind that, although not often mentioned, the curve is dynamic. My less-than-stellar experience with marketing folks would suggest that they generally don't understand this idea, instead throwing their arms up in the air when their assumptions are no longer valid and declaring, "OMFG THE MARKET HAS CHANGED!!" But the dynamic nature of the curve means that today's advantageous price point of USD 0.99 may
Meh (Score:2)
Simple sales psychology. Place the price below the product's usual "pain threshold" and the casual buyer's willingness to shell out money will skyrocket.
It's the same reason commercial websites will sell more subscriptions if they lower their price from $15 to $9.99. The trick is to determine the sweet spot.
Is a linear extrapolation realistic? (Score:4, Insightful)
Could happen but it seems a little too optimistic.
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Pulp fiction (Score:2)
Yeah, pulp fiction books need to be cheap. If I can buy a movie of a pulp fiction book for $10 then yes the book should be 99 cents.
Plus, a Kindle book is throwaway, just a printout with DRN. If you want to charge more, you have to build something more.
This eliminates poor people, Socialism etc. (Score:2)
Would buy an eReader -Today- (Score:3)
I would go out and get an eReader _today_ if all books were 99 cents. At that price, I would purchase on impulse any time I finished a book. Don't like the book I just got? Get another one from another author. I could buy a few and sample until I find the set I wanna go with. Maybe a few books for different moods, etc.
The problem with books as entertainment right now is that they are an investment. Maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I don't even really read as a hobby, it's more of a time killer in the car, at work, or in bed if I can't sleep. Charging me $9.99 for a book is basically telling me not to bother unless I "know" I'm going to like it (friends/family reviews).
But again, make eBooks 99 cents and the investment aspect is gone and people like me who just want to kill time with them will start purchasing them.
independance (Score:2)
These days the buying public looks at a $9.95 eBook and pauses. It's not an automatic sale,' says Locke. 'And the reason it's not is because the buyer knows when an eBook is priced ten times higher than it has to be. And so the buyer pauses. And it is in this pause—this golden, sweet-scented pause—that we independent authors gain the advantage, because we offer incredible value.' Kevin Kelly predicts that within 5 years all digital books will cost 99 cents. 'I don't think publishers are ready for how low book prices will go,' writes Kelly. 'It seems insane, dangerous, life threatening, but inevitable.
This, I think, is the key.
Authors today can self-publish very easily. B&N offers a service to publish ebooks, as do plenty of other places. You don't need to go to a big publishing company to get your work out there.
So all that overhead - all the editors and agents and PR folks and whatever else - is gone. Sure, you're paying something to the folks creating your ebook... But it's usually a fraction of what a big ol' publishing company would take.
So you can price your books lower, and get a bigger ch
99 cents can be profitable (Score:2)
Big fish in a small pond? (Score:2)
when he lowered the price of his book The List from $2.99 to 99 cents, he started selling 20 times as many copies
And when 20 other people see this profit and copy him, will they still sell such high volumes, or will they go back to their old volumes at 1/3rd the price?
At $0.99, it's not worth pirating (Score:2)
If you have e-books selling for $9.99, those who don't really want it will just skip it, and those who really want it figure they can just download it for free somewhere. At $0.99 though, those who don't really want it may still buy it on a whim, and those who really want it recognize that they'll spend more than $0.99 of their time trying to find the book for free (and you may not even be able to considering it's so cheap, people may not even think it's worth it uploading).
As long as it's reasonably priced
The long tail (Score:5, Insightful)
Another thing that publishers are totally screwing up: the long tail. Ebooks give them the opportunity to get some last sales out of older books.
As an example: my kids are reading an old series that contains 20-odd books. These books are no longer in print, but you can easily find them in a used bookstore for about 50 cents each. The original cover prices were $3.00 to $3.50. I thought - hey, we have an ebook reader (Sony), let's see if the publisher has them, and we'll just get the ebooks. I would have happily paid $0.99 per ebook - twice the cost at the used bookstore, but hey, they do have to reformat the things.
Sure enough, the publisher has all of the books on offer as ebooks. Price: $9.99 each, and no extra charge for the DRM.
Is that insane or what? Charging 20 times the price I would have to pay for the physical book (and three times the original cover price). Meanwhile, their DRM is not compatible with our ebook reader. Yes, I could strip the DRM off, but I shouldn't have to.
Faced with such utter stupidity on the part of the publisher, most people will make the obvious choice: it takes only a few minutes to find a torrent containing all of the books - free and without DRM. The pointy-haired managers at the publisher will, of course, draw the wrong conclusion. They will say "piracy costs us sales." In fact, their idiotic pricing and DRM policies cost them sales.
In this pause... (Score:3)
And it is in this pause—this golden, sweet-scented pause—that we independent authors gain the advantage
Heck, I'd buy his books just for that sentence.
the real competition is lulu.com (Score:3)
Publishing physical books and e-books are two different things. The market niches are complementary. If a company like Borders goes bankrupt it's because they've failed to comprehend the complete mix of markets they compete in, not because one part of the business cannibalized another.
There are reasons to be skeptical that paper books will become extinct any time soon. The great strengths of e-books are also their weaknesses - in particular the book is only as permanent as the battery in the e-book reader, and the reader is a fragile device. A fat paperback can even be ripped in half down the spine to improve portability without harming the reading "experience". Textbooks? Artbooks? Etc.
The success of the physical book business is only loosely tied to the satisfaction of the readers. It is much more tightly connected to the profitability of the publishing workflow. As soon as Amazon, etc., solved the mail order scalability problem - an issue related to physical books, not e-books - physical book stores quaked. Really, the readers are more product than customer here - their loyalty traded back and forth between vendors vying for their business.
The next step in dismantling the publishing industry is the printing workflow itself. Send a PDF to lulu.com and you can immediately order a very nice paperback with a single copy price of $5.77 (depending on page count, etc.) Chop a couple of bucks off of that for an order of a few hundred.
Actually, it's $1.99 (Score:3)
If you calculate in the payment that Amazon makes to the author, the break-point is actually $1.99. Books under $1.99 get 35% and books $1.99 and over get 70% profit to their authors. He should have read the terms and done the math a bit more carefully as he'd have made twice the money, even with half the sales.
350,000 X .99 X 0.35 = 121,275
175,000 X 1.99 X 0.70 = 243,775
If you are selling it for 99 cents, you're actually throwing away profit, because under $2 is the actual magic price-point where people impulse by almost anything these days. You'd probably see closer to 200,000 sales or more at that price, since due to inflation, most people would still buy something for $1.99 on a whim just as readily as they would for 99 cents.
The price floor won't be 99 cents, it'll be $1.99, or until Amazon changes its payment schedule.
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Perhaps, but his income depends on readers - if he sells twice as many, even if he doesn't make quite as much raw profit per sale, he'll have more eyes on his books and likely attract more repeat readers. For a little less profit in the sort term, he could be ensuring his future earnings.
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I suspect this part explains it:
turning his loss lead into his biggest earner.
It's selling more copies than his other books.
[John]
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As of March 9th, we've had a total of 67 full days in the year. (31 in jan, 28 in feb, 8 in march). This year we have 365 days. Our year is only 18.35616% over.
350k sales in 67 days translates to 1907k sales in 365 days.
1907k * $0.99 * (35%) = $660.8k
Re:Math fail? (Score:4, Informative)
350k for Jan - Mar or 3 months. times 4 = 1.4M * 0.35 = 490k but of course March is only half way, so round up.
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$350,000 in 3 months. * 4 * 0.35 to get his projected annual income.
Re:Math fail? (Score:4, Interesting)
>>> has sold just over 350,000 downloads on Kindle of his 99 cent books since January 1st of this year, which, with a royalty rate of 35%, is an annual income well over $500k
Erm.... That doesn't seem right
Part of that is the old printed way of selling books would mean:
99 cents retail
33 cents to retailer
33 cents (roughly half of wholesale price) cost of printing
33 cents to publisher
Of the 33 cents to the publisher, on a good day an exceptional author might get a bit over 10% royalties. More likely we'll round down to 3 cents per copy.
So at 35% royalty at Amazon to make 1/2 mil he had to sell about 1.4 million copies total.
Given that he made about half a mill selling at Amazon, how much would he have made from a conventional publisher? Well. 1.4 million times 3 cents each, eh about 43 grand.
Hmm 500 grand at amazon vs 43 grand at a conventional publisher (if paperback books could somehow be sold in that business model at 99 cents a piece) Thats the part that probably doesn't seem right to you.
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That's what I thought at first but that's 350k in three months. Still amounts to "only" $485k a year, though, so I figure they didn't do the actual math.
Its obviously "GRE math" - you are allowed to estimate and round.
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The actual figure is (350000 * 0.99 * (365 / 67)) * 0.35 = $660k
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Wasn't just you so don't feel too bad.
Still...reminds me of this: http://xkcd.com/605/ [xkcd.com]
Re:and so society dies out (Score:4)
The race has already reached the bottom. Capitalism has reached its pathological limit: selling low priced crap to as many people as possible.
The way out is socialism. Readers will disagree because they're still on the winning end of having shafted their fellow man. But there's only so much people will take.
Let me understand this: if a book is sold at $0.99 that's capitalism, but if the same book is sold at $9.95 that's socialism?
Your point is that socialism is selling high priced crap?
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Well.. consider for a moment what is 'more social':
Situation A: A single person - the author - becomes a semi-millionaire.
Situation B: A multitude of people - the author, the people working at the publisher, the people working at the printing press, the people working in distribution, and so forth and so on - receive a reasonable, but not stellar, income.
The pricing in itself is not the mechanism, of course - but it is the catalyst.
As the author points out, soon every book will be about $1. That's great, b
Re:and so society dies out (Score:4, Insightful)
No. I don't have to buy your inferior product. Neither does the rest of society. If your income depends on your skills at a certain task, like writing in this instance, you need to do a good job in order to make money. If you can't, that's what not being a writer is for.
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There's still limited time to actually read those books, which is generally the real barrier (do I think this book will be rewarding enough in the time that I need to read it?)
That barrier goes away when the price is low enough. People like free or cheap stuff. Most people will take virtually anything they think they might have a use for if it's free (provided they don't perceive it as nothing more than junk or trash.) Heck, if they still have it in 5 years and still haven't used it, they can throw it away so it stops taking up space. After all, they got it for free, right?
The same thought process is basically what happens when you price something digital at 99 cents these days.
If that's the definition of "society", so be it. (Score:4, Insightful)
Situation B: A multitude of people - the author, the people working at the publisher, the people working at the printing press, the people working in distribution, and so forth and so on - receive a reasonable, but not stellar, income. [...] there's certainly a potential for consequence that will separate the wheat from the chaff - but what do we, as a society, do with that chaff? The common answer is "Not my problem". But isn't it?
No, as a matter of fact it is not my duty to support pointless middlemen that increase the overall price. It is also not my fault that they are not providing value. It is refreshing to consider a possible future where leeches on a process would be recognized and removed.
...oh, wait, that's right, society survived just fine without them. As a matter of fact, systems perform better without parasitic loads. So, not only did society survive, but it is healthier without the buggy whip manufacturers. These dead-tree process middlemen need to evolve.
Allow me to spin your philosophy around on its head: if the author is creating the value (ie. the book), then why do these unrelated third parties deserve to extract money from the author's efforts? Fortunately, socialist insanity like yours didn't reach a fever pitch in the USA until after many of our institutions were in place. Otherwise, we would still be paying a 37% surtax on all new car purchases in order to "offset the harm" that automobiles were doing to the buggy whip industry. I mean, it's either that or "thus society dies", right?
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Exactly. I know a writer. her books sell for $19.95 on the bookshelf.
She get's $0.50 a book sold. ALL THE REST goes to the middle men. She recently stopped writing dead tree books and started ebooks only after her contract ran out. She sells 1/4 the books now but makes 5X the profit per book, I sent her this article and she is considering testing the waters at the $0.99 price point on amazon.com when her next book comes out, lower the price of the previous ones. even at that price point she will b
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Who will lose is publishers, the middlemen that do nothing at all for content of the book. and honestly, every writer will say "good riddance"
Perhaps a bit harsh. I agree authors get a shockingly small cut, presently. But there are services publishers currently provide: editing, layout, distribution, marketing -- real stuff involved in making a book readable, or getting it to customers. Obviously Amazon is stepping up to be th
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What's your friend do for editing with the ebooks? Does she edit her own? Hire a freelance editor? That seems to be one of the sticking points for DIY publishing, and I'm always curious how people get around those obstacles.
Generally hire their own. And for first-time authors, there are resources out there where people volunteer their time to edit.
Digital selling means that "Hollywood accounting" will start to decline. While you probably still won't be able to prove that they're screwing you, you will be able to pay others to do it piecemeal and see that they're keeping more money.
Re:If that's the definition of "society", so be it (Score:4)
And if publishers lose, we all lose, because quite honestly ebooks are a far inferior experience to real, dead tree books. I dread the day when real books become considered "obsolete" and are no longer published. That's the day I stop reading books.
Which "real, dead tree books"? There are the books made by publishers like Easton Press, which are made with high quality paper, leather-bound, and gilded edges; these books are very expensive but will last literally (all puns intended) generations. Then there are the usual hard-back mass produced books, which have the cardboard binding and fair quality paper; might get a few decades out of them, but at least they don't cost too much. Then there's the cheap paperback books; read 'em twice and they're starting to fall apart.
I used to think just like you: I love books, I want books, and to hell with these e-reader things. Then I got a Kindle (long story). And I realized I was not quite right; I do love the high-quality leather bound books AS books. But the cheap stuff are just delivery methods for what I really love: stories. I love stories. And e-readers give me the stories in a far better delivery method than a paperback.
The high-quality book publishers will still hang around and produce their specialty products. The mass publishers are finding that their delivery methods are being overtaken by technology, just like the music and movie delivery middlemen have had happen to them.
It's not so dire. (Score:5, Insightful)
And if publishers lose, we all lose, because quite honestly ebooks are a far inferior experience to real, dead tree books.
You are conflating the issues. Publishers don't really provide much value anymore, and they engage in protectionist gatekeeping crap that squelches smaller authors or those who don't wish to "play ball". There are many analogues in other businesses. Take, for example, Ticketmaster... how the hell can they call it a "convenience fee" if I am buying the ticket at the venue's box office? But I digress...
I believe technology will also come to the rescue wrt your dead tree book concerns: Print on demand [wikipedia.org]
As this technology evolves, there will be almost no overhead that the B&M's currently face, due to zero inventory. Just as digital photography hasn't killed the glossy print, I don't believe the popularity of e-books will kill the dead-tree market. Hell, a few years back Apple integrated into iPhoto a way to get your digital photos delivered as a printed book. The future could even be brighter than the present: what if you could inexpensively custom order your books to have leather binding, be a particular color, be in your favorite 'easy to read' font, etc? These value-adds would be fairly inexpensive to produce in a PoD scenario. Furthermore, "out of print" would become an obsolete concept: no more searching high and low, then paying an exorbitant price all for a thumbworn used book.
BTW, I have nothing against publishers if they evolve and actually provide value commensurate to their cost. Editing, "packaging" the book with cover art, marketing, etc, could all contribute value. However, "you have to use us or we will keep you from being able to sell your book because we have locked up the distribution channels" is the antithesis of value.
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The paperback version of that same hardcover that I paid $2 for is on Amazon for $10.85 [amazon.com].
A downloadable version is certainly not worth $9.95. A buck? Sure. But that's about it. Times have changed.
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Situation A: A single person - the author - becomes a semi-millionaire.
Situation B: A multitude of people - the author, the people working at the publisher, the people working at the printing press, the people working in distribution, and so forth and so on - receive a reasonable, but not stellar, income.
But, in "Situation A", the electronic-distribution model, you have conveniently left out all the "support personnel" that are involved, from the IT people who maintain the distribution servers and network, to the web-apps developers who wrote the "bookstore" app, to the hundreds of hardware and software developers, marketing, manufacturing and distribution personnel that bring you e-readers like the Kindle, not to mention all the tens-of-thousands of people who maintain the underlying cellular distribution
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Although I don't think it'll be quite such a killer to the industry as far as non-stellar authors goes (plenty of people still read novellas as it is), there's certainly a potential for consequence that will separate the wheat from the chaff - but what do we, as a society, do with that chaff?
I believe that this will, in the coming decades, become the great moral struggle for humankind. You see, the threshold for being 'chaff' has been steadily rising ever we became human. In the middle ages, a halfwit could still help out around a farm or perform drudge work - spinning, churning butter, cutting wood. During the industrial revolution, machines began to take over the menial manual labour. At an accelerating rate, the capabilities of our creations began to overtake those of our less fortunate kin.
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"intellectual property" is a form of socialism.
It's the government meddling in the market and granting monopolies and creating cartels.
Any monopoly is really socialism in disguise.
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In soviet Russia (Score:3)
> Your point is that socialism is selling high priced crap?
As a former resident of the USSR, I can tell you that socialism is exactly that. Selling high priced crap, and buying high priced crap (when you can get it, that is)
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reminds me of when i first came to the US, parents had no money and my dad would say if you want to see a movie then think very hard about it to make sure you will like it since it's so expensive. same with buying a $25 book. with a $.99 you aren't going to think so hard about it since it costs less than coffee
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The race has already reached the bottom. Capitalism has reached its pathological limit: selling low priced crap to as many people as possible.
The way out is socialism. Readers will disagree because they're still on the winning end of having shafted their fellow man. But there's only so much people will take.
In order to make this statement, wouldn't one have had to have read the book in question to determine that it is low-priced crap? Another analysis would be that by providing a market with a low barrier to entry via Amazon, people who are practicing an art because they enjoy it (story telling, music. etc.) are able to make money, too. And because they love what they do, they can provide a quality product at a low price per item, because the reproduction costs are practically nil for them.
Before the book a
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What exactly would qualify as "more than that", may I ask?
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I like the idea of socialism... I like the idea of communism even better. But here's the problem. Every attempt in the history of man kind to achieve these noble states have resulted in a shift of power "from the elite business class" to "the elite government class" which results in even MORE abuse of the people than existed previously.
If I am wrong, please show me where in the world this idea has actually worked?
The problem is that this goes beyond man's nature to want to control everything for himself a
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Scary how well that works, isn't it? Pretty much along the lines of "democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others". The bottom line is the problem isn'
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You just kind of made my point for me. The problem is people as we both have stated. It is man's own nature that prevents good human progress. We are great when we have a "common enemy" but when we become our own enemy, that's when man turns on itself in the worst ways.
For people to be happy, we have to have dreams and challenges to fulfill. "The Matrix" had it right when they built the perfect society that never worked because people ended up spoiling things for everyone. It's why we have laws in the
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That's $122K since January 1st, just ten weeks ago. If he were to keep up sales to that extent for a year, his annual income is indeed over half a million dollars.
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Re:It's also because of the Lost (Score:5, Informative)
You hear the name John Locke and you think of some TV show? Seriously?? Not the philosopher considered the founder of Liberalism, nor his theories of continuous consciousness or tabula rasa?
Our educational system has truly failed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Locke [wikipedia.org]
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Well, if you watched the show, you would likely have had more exposure to John Locke the character than you ever had to John Locke the philosopher, which will change what you think of first when you see the name. When I see "John Locke", the character pops to mind, then the philosopher a second later, at which point I beat myself up for letting TV shuffle my associative memory around :(
If the name had anything to do with popularity, I'd wager the TV show is to thank. Nobody cares about philosophy, unfortuna
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I don't know that I would call John Locke a historical random. His philosophies have had a pretty significant impact on a lot of modern thinking.
And just so my opinion is clear, if people are allowed through an education system without knowledge and understanding of history then it's pretty clear that the education system failed. That would almost be the definition of a failed education system.
Re:It's also because of the Lost (Score:4, Funny)
I laughed, then realised I wasn't entirely sure this comment is satire.
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Ohh man I've always wanted to do this ....
WHOOSH!
Man that felt good.
I was being ... what's the word ... sarcastic [wikipedia.org].
Maybe you should look it up. No then again maybe you shouldn't. I'm being sarcastic.
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I'm sure his name (John Locke) helped sales a bit. I wonder if the t.v. show producers get a cut.
I don't think TV viewers, in general, read. Reading is not part of the "sports bar" and "reality tv" mindset.
A philosophy student whom downloads his little crime drama thinking its a study guide or cliffs notes for "Treatise on Civil Government" is going to be mighty confused at test taking time.
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Come to the UK. Books are one of the only things where there is zero VAT, others being children's clothing and some foods.
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Come to the UK. Books are one of the only things where there is zero VAT, others being children's clothing and some foods.
I guess the Queen's English is well and truly dead, even in the home country, when people in the UK use Americanisms that don't make sense.
1. "one of the few things" == correct, refers to one of several
2. "the only thing" == correct, refers to only one thing
3. "one of the only things" == language fail
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I went to a small book signing, greet & meet for two authors. Both had agents. Both had publishing deals. One of them even had two of his novels optioned by some big-name Hollywood producers. You'd think with this kind of track record they'd be marketed by their publishers. They both told me they have to do all of their own marketing.
Then they have crappy publishers. You don't pay someone a $50,000 advance for a book and then not try to sell it.
As to what publishers offer in the ebook era, the answer is packaging, marketing, and a sign that the book doesn't suck. I've read sample chapters of $0.99 ebooks and the reason why most of them are $0.99 is because they suck so bad that no-one would even consider paying more than $0.99 for them (heck, few people in their right mind would consider paying $0.99 for them). In this case the writer h
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I don't think that a light, slim device with great battery life & an e-ink screen & wifi for $140 (base kindle) is really overpriced. I just don't like that they won't support epub, which is why I haven't bought one yet. Sure I'd like them to be cheaper, but I'd also like a pony.
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1000 x ($3.00 x 0.35) = $1,050.00
20,000 x ($0.99 x 0.35) = $6,930.00
Even if your increased volume is not 20-fold, you still stand to make a lot more by selling as few as five times more copies:
Amazon's royalties increase to 70% at $2.99. So you need to sell six times as many at $.99 to make the same amount of money.