China Detects 10 Cases of Radiation Contamination, 2 In Hospital 150
According to an article at The Sydney Morning Herald, "China has detected 10 cases of radioactive contamination among passengers, aircraft, ships and containers arriving from Japan since March 16, quarantine authorities said on Saturday. On Wednesday, radiation exceeding permitted levels was detected on two ships from the Japanese port of Chiba, near Tokyo, in the ports of Nantong and Zhangjiagang, Li Yuanping, spokesman of the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine, said on its website." Meanwhile, airborne radiation from Japan is detectable in China, but thus far not considered a danger.
The next trend in air travel? (Score:5, Funny)
Abnormally high radioactivity was first detected on a ship that arrived from Japan at the southeast port of Xiamen on March 22.
Two Japanese travellers were briefly hospitalised the next day with elevated radiation levels after arriving in eastern China on a commercial airliner from Tokyo. Their clothing and luggage was destroyed.
Not destroying your luggage: 60 dollars ($50 if paid at least 24 hours before check-in).
Re:The next trend in air travel? (Score:5, Interesting)
Abnormally high radioactivity was first detected on a ship that arrived from Japan at the southeast port of Xiamen on March 22.
Two Japanese travellers were briefly hospitalised the next day with elevated radiation levels after arriving in eastern China on a commercial airliner from Tokyo. Their clothing and luggage was destroyed.
How do you destroy radiation?
Re:The next trend in air travel? (Score:4, Insightful)
You do it like with radiation (uranium, thorium, etc.) in coal - you burn the stuff where radiation is and then you say you don't have radiation anymore since it went "up the chimney"! Problem solved!!
Maybe the nuclear industry could take a hint from coal - just burn the radioactive waste on big pile! Problem solved! DUH!!
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They had a big BBQ in chernobyl some time ago but the assholes who lived next door complained and called the fire department.
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just burn the radioactive waste on big pile! Problem solved! DUH!!
TEPCO is way ahead of you. They've been applying that remediation strategy at Fukushima since right after the tsunami. They're called "spent fuel pools".
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They were called that. Now they're called "the Pacific Ocean".
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In China what you do is mix it into the baby formula and pet food, along with anything else toxic you happen to have lying around.
Re:The next trend in air travel? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:The next trend in air travel? (Score:5, Funny)
Man, you punched that joke right in the face.
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The same way you destroy lead and other heavy metals.
Wrap it up. Call it new. Sell it to unsuspecting Americans.
Problem solved.
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How do you destroy radiation?
Mix it with red dye, paint some plastic toys with it and ship them to America...?
How do you destroy radiation? (Score:2)
Set phasers on 'destroy'
Re:The next trend in air travel? (Score:5, Funny)
How do you destroy radiation?
Detention then disappearance?
China already has processes to stop undesirable elements.
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ROFL
Sadly, they are not the only ones with such an advanced process. The USA has a research facility placed in Cuba, so in case things go wrong only muslims and communists will face the consequences.
Re:The next trend in air travel? (Score:5, Informative)
I think it is lost in translation or that Aussie news website is spreading FUD. The Chinese news [tutechanw.com.cn] I read has information like this
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Very odd since the highest level of radiation spreading far away from the exclusion zone outside Fukushima or Miyagi was detected in Ibaraki 15/march/2011, around 7 am at 1.5 uS/h, when fire destroyed the outer shell of unit 4. Even the radioactivity in the ships is very doubtful since the sea currents go south-north in Fukushima's coast and the ports mentioned in the article are in the Yangtze delta. Maybe the chinese should look upstream the Yangtze river from more radiation.
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Well, pretty much any radioactivity is harmful. With any exposure to radiation, your cancer risk rises. That's true for background radiation, medical xrays and nuclear power plants exploding in your backyard. Of course, the same is true for many other things: stochastical effects are a constant fact particularly in industrialized nations. In terms of the stochastic effect of radiation exposure, settling on a safe threshold seems fairly arbitrary. Of course, individually, the increase in cancer risk from a b
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Well, pretty much any radioactivity is harmful.
That is not necessarily true, and has not been scientifically proven. There is some evidence of a radiation-induced hormesis effect [wikipedia.org], particularly in very high background radiation areas - see this paragraph [wikipedia.org] for an example of this paradox in action in Iran. Most countries follow the Linear, No Threshold [wikipedia.org] and ALARP/ALARA [wikipedia.org] principles, but there is no proof that LNT appropriate. It's nearly impossible to prove that such low levels of exposure are correlated to detrim
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Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
You beat me to it. Considering the solutions 'they' come up with (filling holes with sawmill and shredded newspapers, wrapping the crippled plants into a canvas cover ...) this only seems to be the logical next step. Wouldn't that give everybody a proper share of the lustrous future to come?
CC.
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from china ... (Score:5, Insightful)
this being from China, we must assume this is a political maneuver, and that any truth behind it is incidental.
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this being from China, we must assume this is a political maneuver, and that any truth behind it is occidental.
Fixed that for you
Salt panic redux (Score:2)
The government and press is so unreliable that the population is subject to panics:
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/18/world/la-fg-china-iodine-salt-20110318 [latimes.com]
I call "same kind of thing."
PR perhaps? (Score:4, Insightful)
Given the long standing animosity between the Japanese and the Chinese, and the Chinese Gov't's total control of information, now much of this is true and how much is PR to smear Japan?
My personal guess is that it has just enough truth in it to be irrefutable but little basis in actual fact. The chinese immigration goons could just have been told to grab 2 passengers at random and tell them they're contaminated and haul them off to the gulag^W hospital.
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There a wide margin between analysis and throwing shit at the wall to see what will stick...
Guess on which side you are...
How aboot 'unrelated considerations'. Yes Japan and China are not always in good terms. But China immediately send support and search teams after the quake/tsunami/nukesplosion.
They are close to Japan. The plant is throwing up 24/7 for the last month or so.
And when a neighbouring country detect radiation from ships or people coming from japan you decide it's a political move ? /yeah sure
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If radioactive contaminant can get on a ship to China (btw the plant and the port are on the other side of Japan wrt china) no place in Japan is safe from it which probably means the end of the country altogether. Japanese and foreign authorities agree that radiation did not reach other cities in Japan. It may be false, of course, but it looks probable.
And if you think that helping with the tsunami means they will not do something relatively innocuous like creating a PR stunt to smear Japan (remember: no li
Re:PR perhaps? (Score:5, Interesting)
You have to understand the scope of the situation. Most likely they had radiation detectors set to the most sensitive level. As in, they'll detect you if you ate a banana three days ago because of the isotopes present in the banana.
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Detectors in Hiroshima are picking up no radiation whatsoever [windows.net].
Good to know that China has better detectors tho.
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You don't think that's weird when even measurements in Europe and US show heightened radiation likely to be from Japan? In this particular case I'm going with the Chinese measurements rather than the Japanese ones.
Regarding the Chinese having better detectors, that's unlikely but certainly possible. Don't forget China is building fairly modern nuclear plants like they are McDonalds franchises.
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According to http://www.mitnse.com/ [mitnse.com]
To date, radiation detected in milk is on the order of picocuries (10-12 Curie) per liter. This is 5,000 times lower than the FDA’s Derived Intervention Level. A Derived Intervention Level is the point at which the FDA would act to take the food in question out of our food supply.
That doesnt seem like its anything worth being hospitalized over.
One banana, 2 banana, 3 banana - flawed? (Score:2)
One "banana dose" is equivalent to the dose you would get from somehow sha
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Get a Geiger counter and a banana. Watch it start clicking like crazy.
Bananas even sometimes trigger radioactive detectors in seaports.
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I've done this personally. Other potassium-containing distances are equally "terrifying".
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I've mucked about with potassium a little bit (it really rips into cracks in steel via liquid metal embrittlement) but never put a geiger counter anywhere near it.
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Absolutely. And while I don't personally claim to know whether President Obama was born in the U.S., I think the birthers make good points.
Hehe. I grew up under Communism. And I lived in Japan. And I did business with the Koreans and the Chinese. So my opinion is not based on a brain fart but on a fairly decent amount of knowledge of the culture and the politics.
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Absolutely. And while I don't personally claim to know whether President Obama was born in the U.S., I think the birthers make good points.
Sounds like you're the natural there, pal.
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Japanese people travel to many countries in the world. Funny that only China discovered radioactive travelers. Let me know if/when Canada detects radioactive travelers.
Small but measurable contamination is believable, especially that close to the source, but amounts that make a trip to the hospital and disposal of clothing necessary is a bit suspect.
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You can find plenty of citations with a simple google search [google.com].
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The O'Hare report is much more believable. Detectable traces are not surprising as I said.
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You don't need to import radioactive travelers in the US, the TSA will irradiate them for you.
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Joke. Got it.
Just FYI though, you don't make something radioactive by irradiating it with gammas (like the TSA scanners)(or betas or *alphas).
To do that, you have to irradiate it with neutrons.
*Practically speaking, of course, to irradiate something with alphas means you have to contaminate it with an alpha emitter, since alpha particles are shielded even by air, or thin layers of any solid matter.
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No clothing was disposed. Please read the original Chinese article, not the Aussie anti-nuclear propaganda.
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That was a detectable trace, not anything like enough to need decontamination or a trip to the hospital. I find that much more believable and consistent with what we know about the leaked radiation from the plant.
Re:PR perhaps? (Score:5, Insightful)
I live in Japan and I can tell you that China did not immediately send support; they sent a handful of people after several days, and finally ramped things up when it became the media circus it is now and people started commenting that China wasn't really participating much.
The Chinese government's radiation scare is just that; with the exception of Japanese TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) workers, nobody's been allowed close enough to suffer any significant exposure. If they were exposed, then they voluntarily traveled inside the 20-km evacuation radius and it's their own damn fault. The cases of contamination were mostly due to radiation detected on ships, which was most likely on the ships' hulls themselves, picked up from trace amounts in the ocean.
The Chinese themselves say it's trace amounts. However, they also don't usually use radiation detectors at the airport, either, and they don't disclose their definition of abnormally high levels.
This is business as usual for relations between Japan and China. Google last year's scuffle when a Chinese trawler rammed a Japanese coast guard ship and see what you get.
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What a troll. A quick search of Google shows China sent a search and rescue team not 2 days after the quake, and has been continuously sending aid since then.
But when I see the words "wasn't really participating much" it only sounds to me like somebody just wants more.
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I live in JP too. This is what the government website is telling me about radioctivity in my area 211km away from the Fukushima power plant as the crow flies in Saitama Prefecture [windows.net]. These readings appear to be supported by many independent sources too. While readings peaked for two 2hr periods at 1.2uSv/h on March 15th, they've remained relatively low. From what I gather; the United states has up to twice this level of environmental radioactivity with apparently no harm. While I'd prefer to see no I-131 and
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Au contraire...The Fukushima facility is releasing ginormous quantities of fission byproducts, particularly Iodine-131 and Cesium-137. If fission were no longer occurring, the release of the short-lived fission isotopes would be tapering off but that does not seem to be happening. Instead, there appear to be ongoing
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They are close to Japan. The plant is throwing up 24/7 for the last month or so.
Lets take an actual look at the data around Japan and see whether it matches up.
In particular, lets look at data from (courtesy of [mext.go.jp]) Hiroshima [windows.net] (inland, southwest), Tokyo [windows.net] (east coast), Fukuoka [windows.net] (coastal, southwest), and Osaka [windows.net] (south).
All of those show near zeros across the board for environmental radioactivity-- with the highest reading @ Tokyo a mere 2% of the "notify your local official" level. Of them, only tokyo has detectable radiation in its water.
Im not nuclear scientist, but I think its fair game to c
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Im not nuclear scientist, but I think its fair game to call shenanigans when folks a thousand miles away start claiming that the radioactivity skipped over Hiroshima and landed in China.
Since the radioactivity is claimed to have come on people disembarking from an aircraft which followed more or less that course, I can't see why you call it "shenanigans".
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Because I dont imagine there are any aircraft flying out of Fukushima, and the levels at Tokyo and all the other similarly large cities are basically nil.
And as someone else has remarked, the levels even 30km from the reactors @ Fukushima (32uS/h, last I checked) were still lower than the dosage you receive from flying in the atmosphere anyways.
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Add to this that it was first reported more than a week ago (25th March) and nothing more has been mentioned.
Once again the media trawling for best scare stories for their readers.
I stopped reading mainstream tabloid stories and instead tend to visit, World Nuclear News [world-nuclear-news.org] that seem to filter out the hysteria and present the known facts, including actual reading instead of meaningless 'x' times.
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And yet they've had better reporting than any major US news outlet.
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And yet they've had better reporting than any major US news outlet.
I will add that better than any news outlet with the sole exceptions of Al-Jazeraa and NHK. The mayor TV networks from Mexico were particularly bad, mistranslating everything and misquoting stuff left and right safe in the knowledge that people that knows japanese will not be looking their POS transmissions; but talking about how Tokyo was a phantom town using as a backdrop an anonymous street far away from Shinjuku, Ikebukuro, Sibuya or Akihabara at 6 am but calling it "one of Tokyo's main streets". Of cou
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Are you seriously saying that you turn to the nuclear industry mouthpiece for all your unbiased news? Just have a look at the membership list of the World Nuclear Association [world-nuclear.org]. This is an association made up of companies who profit from the from the continued use of nuclear energy. Who could really believe that any genuine problems with nuclear power will be accurately reported by a body set up to defend the industry?
Yes, seriously.
The reporting on the Fukushima incident is so extremely bad, with only a few exceptions, that organizations like these end up having the most trustworthy information available. This is not a reflection of any inherent trustworthiness of nuclear associations, agencies and companies, it is a reflection of the dismal failure of mass media.
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Given the long standing animosity between the Japanese and the Chinese, and the Chinese Gov't's total control of information, now much of this is true and how much is PR to smear Japan?
It does not look even remotely true. The ship where they found "radiation" arrived in china on 22nd of March, which does not look enough for the contaminants to reach the ship. Moreover the stopped passengers are Japanese, and China has already an experience of stopping Japanese men for bogus reasons (some of them were taken as "spies" for retaliation in the Fisherman incident a few months ago).
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It's not just past animosity, China has a HUGE economic interest in trying to smear Japan. A lot of Japanese factories have been knocked offline(a lot of Japanese factories with key technologies to boot), and you can bet your bottom yuan that China is licking it's lips trying to get as much of that capacity(and technology) moved over to China as they can. By making people think the case is much worse than it is, you will make investors get nervous and be much more willing to agree to the PRCs terms for doing business in China(the transfer of all that technology to the PRC government) so they can get their factories online somewhere "safe".
Yup, to factories built with bricks done by child slave labor, for example. The top brass of PRC government has done many things right, but making China a worker's paradise and building a welfare state sadly are not among them.
They really don't like Japan huh? (Score:4, Insightful)
With the radiation level dropping lower and lower to 0.1-2 uSv/h, way below what you'd get from a single flight (40 uSv), this is just another case of the Chinese hating the Japanese. Maybe I'm not so used to the way "mainlanders" think anymore, having move from liberal Hong Kong to Europe years ago, but IMO it really is time to leave the past behind. Sadly, judging from the timing of broadcasting nationalistic WW2 documentary directly after the quake and now this, I guess it will take another generation at least.
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Re:They really don't like Japan huh? (Score:5, Insightful)
With the radiation level dropping lower and lower to 0.1-2 uSv/h
I'm sorry, but - what?
Which "radiation level" are you referring to? There's not one "the". There's the trace emissions in the jetstream worldwide, there's the iodine and cesium contamination locally within the evacuation zone (in one hotspot measuring higher than in the Chernobyl exclusion zone), there's the over 1Sv/hr extremely hot water (like, stand next to it for an hour and you get radiation sickness) in the drainage pit under the plant, there's the thousands times normal iodine contamination leaking into the seawater, with the potential to either make a lot of fish very sick or worse, bioaccumulate in fish tissue for decades to come. There's the "jumpers" being recruited to work onsite in multi-Sievert conditions where you get your lifetime's exposure in 15 mins...
Somewhere in the world, yes, there is "a" radiation level associated with this Situation Normal All Fukushima'd which is still in the microSievert range. That does not mean everything everywhere associated with it is peachy keen and shiny.
It's entirely possible, for instance, that the 20km zone might not be usable for farming for the next 300 years.
Re:They really don't like Japan huh? (Score:4, Insightful)
there's the thousands times normal iodine contamination leaking into the seawater, with the potential to either make a lot of fish very sick or worse, bioaccumulate in fish tissue for decades to come.
What exactly is going to bioaccumlate for decades? Iodine-131 has a half life of 8 days and decays into stable Xenon-131.
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The question is whether or not they are detecting Iodine-129, which decays into Xenon-129, but has a half-life of 15.7 million years. I know nuke bombs and fission reactors create it, but haven't heard how much of this isotope has been found.
Unlike I-131, I-129 IS a problem in the environment over the long term.
Re:They really don't like Japan huh? (Score:4, Insightful)
What exactly is going to bioaccumlate for decades? Iodine-131 has a half life of 8 days and decays into stable Xenon-131.
The question is whether or not they are detecting Iodine-129, which decays into Xenon-129, but has a half-life of 15.7 million years. I know nuke bombs and fission reactors create it, but haven't heard how much of this isotope has been found.
Unlike I-131, I-129 IS a problem in the environment over the long term.
On the other hand, to detect comparable rates of beta emission, you'd need about 700million times as much I-129 as I-131. The half-life determines not just the time scale of the emission process, but also its intensity per gram of material.
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Damn those Pesky Facts!
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Cesium-137 is. In Bavaria, quite a long way from Chernobyl, all wild sows are radiation tested after been shot, and most of them treated as nuclear waste since the radiation they get from eating fungi is too high for consumption. This is 25 years after.
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Wow FUD much? about 2% of all boars shot have radiation levels too high to eat, and the level of radiation found is no where near the level linked to cancer.
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/312515/germanys-radioactive-boars-a-legacy-chernobyl
You would have to eat 3 lbs of boar meat that is 10x the legal limit to get the same dose as just living one year longer.
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There are still wild boar in Germany??? On less panicky note:
About 2 percent of the 50,000 boars hunted are above the legal radioactivity limit, Reddemann said. And the government's radiation protection office says some mushrooms have registered up to 20 times the legal cesium limit. .......
European officials insist that occasionally eating contaminated boar meat or mushrooms does not pose an immediate health risk. Public health agencies are typically conservative in setting limits for radioactivity in food.
Eating 200 grams of mushrooms tested seven times above the legal cesium limit, for example, would amount to the same exposure as the altitude radiation taken in during a 2,000-mile flight, according to Germany's Office for Radiation Protection.
In Austria, authorities say that eating the unlikely amount of 2 pounds of contaminated boar meat that is 10 times above the legal cesium limit would amount to two-thirds of an adult's normal annual radiation intake by food.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014654517_apeugermanyradioactiveboars.html
So, in reality, in Bavaria people panic lots it seems. You would have to eat boar meat every day for months and months to be affected by this. There ain't that many animals left in ALL of Germany! There is only a problem if you plan on actually farming certain crops in soils that received lots of cesium fallout.
Anyway, here are some facts,
http://www.epa.go
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"Just saying" (Score:2)
Apart from the sheer idiocy of that expression beloved of Tea Partiers, how many subsistence hunters do you think there are in Bavaria? - which is one of the world's most advanced states. Bavarian hunters don't usually need to live off their wild boar, they visit the supermarket on their way home from the BMW plant, or maybe the research establishment at Garching. This is just one of the silliest posts I've read in a long time.
(I now also recollec
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Well assuming it meant "annually" where the article said "50,000 boars hunted", I'd say there are around 25,000 boar hunters.
Each one gets an average of 2 boars per year, yielding 80 lbs of meat. Since the article said, "In Austria, authorities say that eating the unlikely amount of 2 pounds of contaminated boar meat that is 10 times above the legal cesium limit would amount to two-thirds of an adult's normal annual radiatio
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It's entirely possible, for instance, that the 20km zone might not be usable for farming for the next 300 years.
Unlike the fields that are now perma-flooded by a mix of sea water and oil, or the ones were the topsoil got washed away and simply soaked in the same mix of sea water and oil? For what it is worth, a sizable portions of the fields in that region are going to be unusable for farming for some time. There are talks of moving a larger portion of the food production to Hokkaido as it was untouched and still has loads of unused space.
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Which "radiation level" are you referring to?
All of them. take your pick [mext.go.jp]; of all the prefectures listed, the only one with remotely "interesting" levels is Fukushima, and its levels are getting rather low as well-- until you get about 30km away, there isnt much in the way of radioactivity there either.
Its not peachy keen; the tsunami wrecked whole villages and people wont be living there again for some time. The radiation issue will be over long before the rest of the problems are dealt with. The tragedy in all of this is that when the japanese fin
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Does the leaking water only carry iodine out of the plant? If so, why isn't it carrying anything else, like caesium?
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Sorry, I don't know what it is on here all the time, comparing dosage with an hourly dose. While real levels in the vicinity, OUTSIDE the evacuation zone, were measured more like 10-100uSv/h (still not that much), going with the low level of just 2 uSv/h you get a higher radiation dosage than your example flight every day. And since this has been going on for quite some time, people have gotten quite a few additional flights. Why don't we just start giving the dose per minute. It will sound even less... Thi
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It's amazing that no one ever says that to the Jews.....
What is that, like Inverse Godwin's Law?
Slashdot should know better (Score:5, Insightful)
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I still want to go to Japan! (Score:1)
Long term health tracking (Score:1)
There seems to be problems tracking long term health records in societies with lots of nukes.
Recording health records of radiation related health problems of radiation from a long term leak like Daiichi seems to be non-existent. In fact, will be difficult to establish as it can only be bad news and there are interests that would not want to keep tracking this information. The interests that would want to track public health are general and dispersed, the interests that do not want to track this in
Re:Long term health tracking (Score:5, Informative)
If the press still keeps on digging, the patients privacy kicks in to stop any questions about epidemiology. Still having issues? Stop offering/teaching so much about epidemiology.
Back to simple industrial toxicology, long term old people get sick... any detectors that spike are faulty and get removed for servicing for a few weeks.
With no hard data its your expert vs nothing.
If your still interested read and watch http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tellurium-129-presence-proof-inadvertent-recriticality-fukushima [zerohedge.com]
"Newly released TEPCO data provides evidence of periodic chain reaction at Fukushima Unit 1"
http://vimeo.com/21881702 [vimeo.com]
The hard data is been released, the press is just not very good. http://cryptome.org/0003/fukushima-areva.zip [cryptome.org]
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/attempt-pour-concrete-fukushima-pit-crack-generating-1-sieverthour-fails-new-unmanned-drone- [zerohedge.com]
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How's voluntary check up on the hospital propaganda? Oh wait, you read the Aussie version, which claims destroying clothes and other things which didn't happen.
Why can't people see this for what it is? Australian anti-nuclear propaganda. Are the immune to criticisms because they're supposedly western?
Detectable means nothing! (Score:4, Insightful)
You can detect (and identify) the radiation from the atmospheric bomb testing that took place decades ago! Radiation detection equipment is extremely sensitive. Without numbers (and units) "detected" means absolutely nothing. Please /. stop reporting this non-news, it's just infuriating to anyone with even a basic understanding of radiation safety/physics.
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In related news, authorities are suddenly suspicious of all bananas...
Bad title (Score:2)
The /. article title helps propagate the widespread popular confusion between radiation and radioactive materials. Radiation helps you detect contamination with radioactive materials, similar to how light helps you detect the sun. The editor should have stuck with either of the phrasings from the first link -- "10 cases of radiation" or "10 cases of radioactive contamination" -- rather than combine them.
the only thing worse (Score:1, Troll)
than the fear and hysteria in the media, are comments like you see under slashdot articles about this nuclear tragedy claiming, basically "no big deal"
false alarmism: wrong
false complacency: equally wrong
do you know how much fucking radiation that plant is leaking into the environment? if an appreciation of how much nuclear radiation is going into the environment from fukushima does not sober you up, you are a grade aaa usless asshole
at least the hysterical can plead ignorance. what's your excuse asshole?
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That physics does not follow hysteria. The situation is serious, but the media are blowing it way out of proportion.
And as someone said, detectable means nothing. The detection systems are so precise they can identify the natural background.
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That physics does not follow hysteria. The situation is serious, but the media are blowing it way out of proportion.
And as someone said, detectable means nothing. The detection systems are so precise they can identify the natural background.
I'm sorry... but how exactly does one blow the worst
nuclear accident in the history of mankind... out of
proportion?
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=126888 [novinite.com]
Oh, also... car analogy time... You have a detector
that measures things falling from the sky. Ok... things
are ALWAYS falling from the sky.
Now, how about if today, full sized vehicles are dropping
from the sky.
So... if you "detect" full sized vehicles dropping from
the sky, the data might be relevant, to anyone without
a cement dome for a helmet.
-AI
Worst nuclear accident... (Score:2)
Good idea, why not start now?
Typical Slashdot China-hating (Score:2)
go ask zhao lianhai what he thinks (Score:1)
it is not about 'hate' it is about the basic historical reality of the chinese government.
the baby milk scandal was covered up and whistleblowers put in prison
SARS more of the same
if there were a nuclear accident in China, the government would lie about that too
every government lies, but China has a special affinity for putting anyone who points this out into prison for long periods of time and harassing and abusing their families.
Awful as usual (Score:1)
This is real very worrying news (Score:1)
Summary wrong again (Score:2)