Wikipedia To Dump GoDaddy Over SOPA 197
Reader jampola points out that Wikimedia's Jimmy Wales last week said clearly what was only hinted at earlier in the month; now "It's not only imgur (among many others) who are giving GoDaddy the flick; it also appears Jimmy Wales, co-founder of Wikimedia, will be making the change. While unsure to what effect Wikimedia utilizes the services of GoDaddy, I imagine this could very well be another public blow for GoDaddy in the wrong direction over their decision to support SOPA."
Use Namecheap (Score:5, Informative)
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I can't but happy with their service.
Learn to spell. Perhaps you can butt Grumpy or Sleepy with their service.
I'm sure someone who has experience with the dwarfs will chime in.
Re:Use Namecheap (Score:5, Funny)
I can't but happy with their service.
Learn to spell. Perhaps you can butt Grumpy or Sleepy with their service.
I'm sure someone who has experience with the dwarfs will chime in.
His spelling is fine. Learn to Grammar.
Re:Use Namecheap (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Use Namecheap (Score:4, Insightful)
Verbing weirds language.
So you should intentionally the verb out.
Re:You are doing it wrong (Score:5, Funny)
I must have missed the meme.
How could you have the meme about typing a sentence but accidentally the verb?
Of course, Method320's post was a submeme of the original missing-verb meme, with a compound verb in the usual place, but the infinitive missing. Maybe that what confused you? Compound verbs too difficult for a lot of English-speaking people nowadays.
(And some of us now studying Engrish and Chinglish instead. Those languages will valuable in coming Chinese century. ;-)
Re:Use Namecheap (Score:5, Insightful)
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Happens to me too. My spelling is fine, it's my typing that's a bit wobbly.
Re:Use Namecheap (Score:5, Funny)
When writing quickly I have a tendency to drop random words.
So you accidentally the whole post?
hover (Score:4, Informative)
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I also transferred my domains to Namecheap this week. I was happy to leave Godaddy not only because of the SOPA mess but because their interface is garbage anyway. Namecheap feels like a more modern approach to services both from a design and marketing perspective. I don't need my registrar to be flashy - just be easy to use, communicate well, and be competitive. Namecheap definitely has already won me over and I expect to stay there for many years.
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I would boycott GoDaddy if I wasn't already doing so.
I'd like to give props to namecheap as well. I've been using them for a couple years now and they've been very solid. Their UI is clean and there's no bullshit to deal with.
This just in... (Score:2)
Re:This just in... (Score:5, Informative)
They certainly haven't come out against it.
Key members of their staff are still openly supporting it in blog posts (which the company would likely squash fairly quickly were they to be against the company position).
Re:This just in... (Score:4, Interesting)
Having actually ready your link, the word "oppose" is actually there.
But they are not against it because they think it is wrong, they are quite literally against it because others are and it is getting embarrassing. They stated argument against it?: "there is no consensus". That is like being against mugging not because the stealing and violence are bad per say, but because they are not seen as generally accepted.
Too little too late for many (far too late for me: I last dealt with that company some years ago, and have been recommending people go elsewhere for just as long).
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This happened a week ago! Seems Slashdot ain't what it used to be.
Sure it is. It's still publishing "news" stories that are a week old, aren't they? We'll probably read another report like it next week, too.
(I was tempted to say "You must be new here." But I realized that that might not be quite the right wording for a reply to a claim that something ain't what it used to be. ;-)
How about NO BULLSHIT!? (=Gandi.net) (Score:2, Informative)
How about this instead: http://en.gandi.net/no-bullshit [gandi.net]
This philosophy alone wins against any other business model, hands down.
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You become a slightly less Interesting Fella every time you astroturf Namecheap. Every story so far, now you're FPing. Shame.
Re:Use Namecheap (Score:5, Insightful)
My advice to anyone looking for a new registrar is not to go with whomever screams "Screw SOPA! Screw GoDaddy!" the loudest. Do some actually research on who provides quality service and has a long established reputation of not being a snake. I personally like eNom, but there may be better ones out there.
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http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/03/23/1957200/Phony-Web-Certs-Issued-For-Google-Yahoo-Skype [slashdot.org]
Would you?
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Warning: New id/name for CmdrPony, InsightIn140Bytes, etc.
So do we have someone who's trying to be the next Twitter in both senses (the sock puppetry sense and the the 140 character sense?)
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It is interesting. Insight, Twitter, Cmdr (as in CmdrTaco?)Pony, we all know the pony April Fools, and now "Interesting"Fella. It's as if the person(s) doing it are trying to pick names that "feel" familiar to the community.
I personally can't wait to see what the next id is named.
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I've been thinking about that. It is exactly what is going on. I think, for a long time, people (at least, the "masses") have been cultured to be honest, etc. Actually, lies are natural, everything is subjective anyway. Now that there is so much info out there to be had, it will become a big advantage to avoid mistaking too many lies for truth. I mean, both my parents are pretty educated, they still believe things they read...as if it was magic to get someone to publish your work. Most people my age would
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I don't believe what you write, which means I must intrinsically believe what you write, which means I don't believe what you write, which mea.... ah tits!
In response... (Score:5, Funny)
In response, GoDaddy will now have various pictures of Danica Patrick at the top of all of their site's pages, urgently pleading people to register domains with them.
The caption would be:
If everyone reading this registered 5 domains with us, we could end the internet today. Please read a personal appeal. Please help.
Re:In response... (Score:4, Funny)
So long as the pictures aren't work-safe, everyone will be happy.
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I just want to know where to donate to end GoDaddy.
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Either Danica is fine with selling her body cheap, or GoDaddy are the only ones that would want to keep sponsoring her... I would want to say I feel sad for her, but she may simply not mind such a treatment. You never know.
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Yeah - god forbid that a women doesn't have a problem with that fact that people find her attractive . . .
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The problem is if the only people willing to pay your for showing your body are a bunch of crooks at some two-bit internet company run by a sociopathic jerk. Have we seen her face on makeup ads, clothing ads, or anyplace else where highly attractive women are paid for modeling work? Nope.
More interesting question: who hasn't (Score:5, Interesting)
A lot of people/companies movies their domains away, not just wikipedia or imgur, or the humble bundle people. A lot of people have done it. I wrapped up moving my domains today (started after the previous domain dispute wit godaddy that was reported on /.).
It would be more interesting to see what companies, specially those that rely on user contribution, decided not to move away from the shitty registrar called GoDaddy.
For who care, I moved my domains to Gandi. So far the service is great, the gratis DNS management is also ok (you can pretty much copy paste zone files). Gandi is a non-US company (French), they support EFF (and a bunch of other projects /.ers like), oppose SOPA: http://www.gandibar.net/post/2011/12/23/Gandi-s-Opposition-to-the-SOPA-Legislation [gandibar.net]
Re:More interesting question: who hasn't (Score:5, Informative)
I'm also with gandi (been using them for what seems like 10 yrs now; quite a long time). just recently I decided to try their webmail (imap) and that works fine, too. after a few months testing, I moved all my gmail business over to my own domain and using gandi as mail transport, dns and occasional webmail (but mostly imap).
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People use GoDaddy because they're big, and big = safe. Remember the old adage, "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM." Same for Microsoft, same for big banks like Bank of America, etc.
Being big is a recommendation in and of itself.
Re:More interesting question: who hasn't (Score:4, Interesting)
Nothing against Gandi (good registrar actually), but as a French company, aren't they subject to HADOPI that is similar to SOPA?
Re:More interesting question: who hasn't (Score:4, Interesting)
HADOPI doesn't really compare. It's strictly a 3 strikes law, with a single company monitoring p2p traffic (mostly interrogating torrent trackers), aimed against private file sharer.
It's evil, but definitely not in the same league as SOPA.
Re:More interesting question: who hasn't (Score:5, Interesting)
HADOPI targets "internet subscribers", i.e. the people at home and not websites. So Gandi, and it's clients are not affected by HADOPI.
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I was honestly shocked by who and how many people use GoDaddy. I'm talking friends that are IT folk, people that trashed their name over their well established list of shenanigans.
To me this is another sign of how screwed up things are. GoDaddy has a history of being shady, but people don't care. They ignore the evidence until something like SOPA hits, then it's all "GoDaddy is GoBaddy! Boycott! Boycott!"
And it isn't like it will do much to anyone but GoDaddy. The RIAA/MPAA companies, the real villains, are
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And it isn't like it will do much to anyone but GoDaddy. The RIAA/MPAA companies, the real villains, are who we should be boycotting. Why aren't people canceling their cable and Netflix or Hulu+. [Boycotting GoDaddy is] easy and costs $7-10 dollars.
Well, you said it. It doesn't make *that* much difference if you choose another registrar, whereas if you were to boycott the large movie or tech companies, you'd have to actually sacrifice seeing the latest geek-friendly blockbuster or not have the latest shiny tech gadget or console.
And while people here are happy to complain about how Sony or whoever are going to lose their business or whatever because of some dick move they made, when it comes to the crunch and making a *real* sacrifice (like those ab
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I'm not canceling my Netflix because it's television on my terms. If it becomes a value proposition with which I don't agree I'll go back to not watching television. We dropped DVDs when they raised the price. Netflix doesn't want to give the bastards money, but the bastards have the content we want to watch. As they make more of their own content that we want to watch, we'll be able to watch more without giving money to the worst scum. (Yes, I realize Netflix is a Microsoft puppet...)
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Re:More interesting question: who hasn't (Score:5, Informative)
DomainsByProxy looks good at first, until you click on "About Us" and see that they're good buddies with GoDaddy.
No thanks.
Does anyone else offer such a service, without being tied to GoDaddy?
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internet.bs is a great registrar, and they provide free domain privacy. You can either use their name and address on whois, or your name with their address. They have great pricing, also. I moved a few domains to them a couple years ago and have been steadily moving more over.
Coupons! (Score:4, Interesting)
A few hours after I finished transferring all of my domains away from GoDaddy, they spammed me with an advertisement offering 25% off my next purchase of $75 or more. Not, "Hey, we'd like you back. What can we do to change your mind?" No, it was "Hey, you were a customer once and we'd like to milk you some more. Here's a not-very-good incentive to buy more services from us."
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I am ignorant on the loss that GoDaddy is incurring. Is there any monthly recurring fees that they are losing for all of this, or is everyone just making a point of moving now to get their attention, and then the simple renewals with fees will then go to a competitor? It seems that teh competition is getting a great deal of transfers and making money from it, but I dont see where GoDaddy is losing yet. Am I wrong? I dont know their service offerings, but I am enjoying the rage and activity around all of thi
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No, it was "Hey, you were a customer once and we'd like to milk you some more. Here's a not-very-good incentive to buy more services from us."
Unless they're sending Danica over to do the milking, I'm not interested.
It seems like XBMC.org is also moving (Score:2)
http://xbmc.org/theuni/2011/12/29/possible-unreachable-time-tonight/ [xbmc.org]
In their case they are moving altogether from the US. Are they paranoid, or is this the right move? With the US control of the ICANN, I wonder how much better would it be to use a non-US name registrar
p.s.: How can I change the text displayed when I use URL tag?, couldn't find that anywhere in the FAQ.
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They provide software that can play media without DRM. I'm not surprised they're moving their hosting out of US/**AA control.
p.s: There's a url tag? I use <a href=""></a> tags for urls
Shakedown artist politicians take note! (Score:2, Interesting)
Hey, dickheads, yeah you, Mr Shakedown Artist politician. You and your dipshit friends jumped the shark tank with this one.
GoDaddy is just a precursor of what is going to happen to your political careers. It's a snack for us, a little bit of blood to tithe us over until we can mash the vote button for the other guy so hard it breaks. You can tell the other bums huddling around the burn barrel keeping warm. "I was a rich Congressman until I got fucking stupid and greedy. GOD DAMN YOU SOPA....I had a life!"
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Uh, the phrase is "jump the shark", not "jump the shark tank". And your knowledge of politics seems as shallow as your knowledge of internet memes. Frankly, we've seen things like this come and go many times in our day. In a couple months, after SOPA and PIPA have passed, been reconciled, and the reconciled bill passed, this will be forgotten. And no one in Congress will suffer an iota from it, because the majority of citizens really don't give a damn as long as they can get to their Facebook accounts and c
Two messages being sent by GoDaddy desertions (Score:5, Interesting)
1. Politicians and government no longer represent what the people want. The bribary by the copyright lobby has gone way beyond the pale, and the political corruption of government seems unstoppable.
2. Politicians and government are now costing businesses money. While traditionally the government has supported businesses more than individuals, this has now reached the point where business finds itself at odds with the customers that provide its income, and that is a terminal situation.
The messages are pretty clear. What's unclear is where this is going, other than sending SOPA to hell.
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1. Politicians and government no longer represent what the people want. The bribary by the copyright lobby has gone way beyond the pale, and the political corruption of government seems unstoppable.
2. Politicians and government are now costing businesses money. While traditionally the government has supported businesses more than individuals, this has now reached the point where business finds itself at odds with the customers that provide its income, and that is a terminal situation.
The messages are pretty clear. What's unclear is where this is going, other than sending SOPA to hell.
Unfortunately, it's not a terminal situation for big business. Take a look at the telecom and to an extent the cable industries. When they start losing customers, they lobby to get "fee" attached to their bills (and other companies bills WTF!) that directly benefit them. Universal Service fund immediately springs to mind, but there are lots of other examples. Just pick up a bill and read it carefully.
Canada has that goofy law where you pay taxes on blank media... which goes directly to the recording indu
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Usually when the government does something to help some business it hurts another, this isn't new. The biggest difference here is that usually it's the big business vs. the little business (and the big business always wins). Now it's one mammoth industry vs. another. The MPAA et al are well entrenched in government, but they're going too far and forcing the tech industry to flex its muscles. It's not that the businesses are at odds with their customers - a quaint thought, thinking the customers are somehow
What does a $10 registration mean? (Score:3)
Losing these a handful of big websites doesn't cost Godaddy more than $100 a year. The negative publicity affects them much worse.
I think what is really needed is to get all the big name companies together and sponsor research into an alternative to DNS that can't be touched by any government and you can't sue for trademark infringement. Perhaps some combination of public key encryption and p2p. Then webpages the world over could provide links to the public key to search for. Instead of being able to directly go to a website you would need to go through (gasp) a search engine, then forever hence your web browser could find the site. Perhaps the public keys could even be encoded in those newfangled 2d bar codes.
Re:What does a $10 registration mean? (Score:4, Interesting)
The problem ist't DNS blocking, it's the capacity of Gov't to block any website at the BGP level right in the main routers of Tier-1 backbones. That's the whole point of the uproar: the copyright lobby and their politicians have embarked on an arms race with us, the Internet Community, and who knows where all this will lead to?
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I transfered a dozen domains today. But know this (Score:5, Informative)
I wish I knew a few things before transferring my domains. I hope you find this useful.
There are at least 2 registrars who will donate $1 to EFF for each domain transferred to them:
1. namecheap.com (use coupon code SOPAsucks for a nice discount, I paid $7.17 per domain transfer + whois privacy) ...)
2. gandi.net ($8 for domain transfer + free SSL cert + free whois privacy +
I wish I knew that:
1. namecheap.com offers SSL cert for $1.99 extra -- that you can use for ANY domain including ones you don't register with them.
Since I didn't need SSL for the domains I transferred, I skipped this offer and am kicking myself for not getting a few certs
2. gandi.net offers SSL cert for free with each transfer and it only costs $8 (US) and they provide whois privacy
there were posts about gandi.net being more expensive than others, so I assumed the worst and found otherwise today
Now you know of 2 registrars giving you a domain name, SSL cert and whois privacy for under $10, PLUS they donate a buck to EFF.
I transferred around 12 domains to namecheap.com for $7.17/domain and will transfer additional domains requiring SSL to gandi.net for $8/domain.
If you know of other registrars (not owned by godaddy) who will donate $1 or more for each transfer, then reply here with their coupon code, etc.
Things to remember when transferring from godaddy:
1. First, unlock your domain at the godaddy website
2. Get your authorization codes from godaddy website
3. Cancel your whois privacy at godaddy's: DomainsByProxy.com
4. Make sure your Administrative Contact's email address is correct so you can respond
(note that some changes like Company Name, etc. will lock your domain for 60 days!)
5. And finally, initiate the transfer at your new registrar
I found these instructions helpful when transferring my domains today:
http://www.sitepoint.com/godaddy-supports-sopa-heres-how-to-transfer-your-domains/
Here's your chance to vote with your wallet AND save money. If you procrastinate, you'll probably end up renewing with godaddy the night before your expiration and pay them a heck of a lot more than these prices. Transfer today and benefit.
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Excellent, informative post. Thank you, I'm posting a link to your post to a mailing list with a couple dozen friends who have personal domains.
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Very nice. A friend of mine just wrote an easy to use cloud app that does many of these steps automatically. Free yourself from GoDaddy!
https://laterdaddy.herokuapp.com/ [herokuapp.com]
So help fund them (Score:5, Informative)
Funny coincidence, five minutes ago, the Wikipedia funding request hit my mailbox. Says they stop asking for funds every year once they hit a goal...but alas this year did not make it.
Really, it is a very impressive service to offer with, as the letter says, 679 servers and 95 staff. They keep it all very, very tight. I felt good donating this year, and that was BEFORE the SOPA thing.
We need a Firefox plugin to flag GoDaddy sites (Score:2)
Name.com (Score:2)
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Name.com opposes SOPA and calls on Congress to search for a new way to protect intellectual property rights, while maintaining the freedom from which we all enjoy and benefit.
Ill do the switch too (Score:2)
Donate to Wikipedia (Score:4, Insightful)
Now donating money to Wikipedia [wikimediafoundation.org] is especially powerful. It supports a public benefit org that sticks to its principles of openness, and takes money from GoDaddy which is a scumbag operation. And gives that money to GoDaddy's competitors, which sticks it to GoDaddy some more.
Want to help kill SOPA and the rest of the slaver culture working against us? Give to Wikipedia now. And help pay for all those articles you've been reading, too.
1&1 Internet (Score:2)
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Does anybody know where 1&1 is on the whole SOPA thing?
No. But we know where they are on the locking customers in thing.
Good luck getting your domains away from that scumbag operation.
Re:[citation needed] (Score:5, Insightful)
What do you mean by "big"?
Do you mean:
"big"==" well known companies who use godaddy"
Or
"big"==" companies that have a large number of domanis and related services from godaddy" ?
Because there are people/companies with thousands of domains, which they could pull from godaddy and make a noticible dent in their profits instantly by making the switch, but they wouldn't inspire anyone else to do the same.
However wikimedia, may only have a few domains and services, but inspire others to do the same.
Re:[citation needed] (Score:5, Insightful)
Wikipedia and imgur leaving GoDaddy isn't going to make them fold like Bear Sterns
I don't think anyone expects GoDaddy to go belly up over this. There will always be bottom-feeding morons who only care about prices and nothing else. The question is how much business will no longer be absorbed by the GoDaddy sponge and will be available for smaller competitors, and the significance of Wikimedia leaving is that their prestige may inspire fence sitters to follow suit.
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Re:[citation needed] (Score:5, Interesting)
No, but it is bottom-feeding to prefer price over other important aspects, such as the business ethics of the provider, the level of customer service, the features of the service, and the general principle that a near-monopoly is bad for both the marketplace and the technology and the obligations that result from the fact that consumers are (barring government) one of the only entities in a position to prevent such a situation from occurring.
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No, but it is bottom-feeding to prefer price over other important aspects, such as the business ethics of the provider, the level of customer service, the features of the service.
Companies which provide services like GoDaddy typically don't fall into the above. Customer service? I've run a domain name for years I don't think I've ever once talked to a customer service rep. And why would you, when the system runs it should run, so providing that GoDaddy doesn't do something untoward and screw with your service (which as far as I've heard they don't) customer service doesn't come into it that much. Features? If GoDaddy didn't provide features that people want, then people wouldn't be
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There's a difference between bottom-feeding morons and bottom-feeders smart enough not to believe an advertising pitch and/or assume cheapness based on herd following behavior.
My bet is a large proportion of GoDaddy's customers either A) think they are using the cheapest option B) thought they were when they signed up but haven't bothered to switch or C) just think it is obviously the best service because "the market has spoken"
Re:GoDaddy Reversal (Score:5, Insightful)
GoDaddy didn't reversed their stance on SOPA. They simply stopped actively supporting it in public. There is a big difference.
Re:GoDaddy Reversal (Score:5, Informative)
GoDaddy did NOT reverse their stance on SOPA. They only removed the publication on their supporting stance of SOPA. So they still support it, they just don't say it out loud.
Re:GoDaddy Reversal (Score:4, Interesting)
Can someone explain why GoDaddy would support SOPA in the first place?
Re:GoDaddy Reversal (Score:4, Informative)
GoDaddy helped WRITE SOPA...they're exempt from many of its negative effects.
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Re:GoDaddy Reversal (Score:5, Informative)
godaddy supports sopa because of exemption [nwlinux.com] Quote,
"Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO), the only member of Congress present at the hearing with any tech experience, having founded several web companies... Polis pointed out that SOPA and Smith’s amendment already excluded certain operators of sub-domains, such as GoDaddy.com, from being subject to shutdowns under SOPA. If companies like GoDaddy.com are exempt, why aren’t non-commercial domain servers exempt?” Polis asked."
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Can someone explain why GoDaddy would support SOPA in the first place?
http://GoDaddy-is-the-son-of-Satan.org/ [godaddy-is...-satan.org]
I would have modded AC up, but that link wasn't clickable, so instead FTFY. It took me a couple of seconds, but once you get it, it is an excellent explanation why Go Daddy would love SOPA and it's ilk.
Re:GoDaddy Reversal (Score:4, Informative)
uh, that redirects to godaddy.com
at least they're creative when buying up hate domains.
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GoDaddy now opposes SOPA and PIPA (Score:5, Interesting)
Wrong. [cnet.com]
GoDaddy, the domain register targeted by online activists in response to its enthusiasm for a pair of Hollywood-backed copyright bills, has finally denounced the legislation in response to a boycott scheduled for today.
Warren Adelman, the company's chief executive, said today that "GoDaddy opposes SOPA," meaning the Stop Online Piracy Act, which is facing a House of Representatives committee vote next month.
A GoDaddy spokeswoman confirmed to CNET this afternoon that "we oppose PIPA, as well." That's the Senate bill known as Protect IP, which will be debated on the Senate floor January 24. (See CNET's SOPA FAQ.)
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Re:GoDaddy now opposes SOPA and PIPA (Score:4, Informative)
It was this afternoon. Get this: they helped write this bill. They funded it. They're written into it as an exception, and a holding registrar for seized domains. They let their arrow fly. If these bills pass GoDaddy cannot escape blame for the harm they do, repentant or not. It's in their best interest now to ensure that these bills are killed deader than Canasta.
If they do manage to kill it then they're just stupid and negligent. Which many of us could let go.
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The question is, however, are they actively opposing it in the sense that they are committing resources to fight the bill or are they opposing it by putting out a press release that says, "We oppose SOPA"? Are they still donating money to the politicians who are pushing for SOPA?
At this point, if you're taking GoDaddy's word for it, you're a damn fool.
And even if GoDaddy takes steps to oppose SOPA, their competitors who opposed it all along are still more deserving of the internet community's business. Even
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It's worse than that, even: Go Daddy even publicly still supports SOPA! [rudysyndrome.com]
It's an post from October, but it's still up, un-edited, so I can only conclude that, when Jones says
That myopic view has never been shared by Go Daddy.
In our view, Internet policy should strive to balance the sometimes competing goals of the global free flow of information (which is clearly critical to U.S. businesses), with enforcement of the rule of law. We don't see those competing goals as mutually exclusive, but rather, complimentary. In fact, that balance is essential to a flourishing, yet safe, Internet.
it's still valid Go Daddy policy.
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What makes you think they reversed their stance?
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So, the only thing they oppose is the fact that tech companies are boycotting them over it. They absolutely and unequivocally support the CONTENT of the bill. Their old statement said as much, they although they are withdrawing their support, they still absolutely agree with the bill. More-or-less that the only thing that they
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The issue is that GoDaddy didn't really reverse their stance, at least not where it counts. They now claim to not support the SOPA bill as written, but they still agree with it for the most part, which isn't surprising since the more or less wrote the thing.
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I applaud this move by Wikipedia and hope many others follow suit.
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